Ek ladki ki tumhe kya sunau daastaan... - Page 4

Originally posted by: asmi_joya

How beautifully you have described Sai and her dilemma.. Yesterday I felt a tad bit sad for Virat when he was denied the friendship and today Sai's jaldi hi chali jaun was heart wrenching..and also an indication that she might just leave tomorrow after Virat's outrage..😢

I also felt bad for Virat-- I always do 😆 But I also feel frustrated with him more than with Sai. 😆

I think Sai was extremely curt in the way she snubbed him but she did not want to insult him -- one must realise that she doesn't speak to him the way she does because she wants to insult him or hurt him. It is a defence mechanism. She chooses the harshest words because she wants to drive him away -- it is not easy for a 19 year old (forget the age of a woman falling in love anyway) to resist the charm of this caring husband, who is visibly trying to woo her. You think she cannot see? She has more perception of such things than Virat. But she cannot go with the flow again -- especially after Ladakh incident, where she had lowered her guard and fell on her face. One bitten, twice shy.

She wants to put him off so that he maintains his own distance -- it will hurt her either way, even if she allows him to come closer and then feels another bee-sting from someone about their relationship. But by passing rude comments, she's trying to bring that distance between them because he is not answering the questions she is asking -- the answers will help her decide if she should go with the flow and stop caring about what others say about them. It is only when he verbalises it, will she be able to ignore those snide remarks that affect her.

I don't think she will leave tomorrow... Won't they want to stretch the drama of leaving to at least 2-3 episodes?

Originally posted by: ltelidevara

Thank you for this post Janaki.

When you write Sai licious post I get a smile on my face. I love it when you reach the inner depths of Sai’s heart and gently extract her thoughts,feelings,everything my little angel experiences within the range,not accessible to others.

I wonder how earnestly most of us are waiting for separation which will benefit both of them,at this point of time. Hope it happens tomorrow. Fingers crossed.

What all can you do with two characters who are in feeling the pain of loss of love that they can just confess, have and keep... My favourite dialogues from one of Imitiaz Ali's underrated films is "dil tootne ka dard... sangeet ki jhankaar laata hai"

Oh, this story has so much potential still. I really hope they have found a way to salvage it until the grand confession. Uske baad toh it will become boring for sure.

Originally posted by: scarlett22

Janki, Janki...man bana liya tha ki I will not watch today's episode.

Your post on Sai is tempting me.

I feel like I need to wean myself away.

I think the makers will wean us soon enough...

Originally posted by: Ishradivani

Lovely lovely analysis Janki didi

My heart breaks for Sai everytime we have this discussion. Haven't watched the episode so will not talk about it.

But want to share two cents about Sai.

It's very easy for people to say that sai should give into virat's hints . Ppl think since he has time n again reinforced that he will never let her go she should not push him away. But he never said that he wants her to stay forever. Without him verbalising it it's very sad to see ppl blaming her for not giving into his advances. Sai's is guarded now and it completely makes sense. According to her she has nothing to gain and everything to lose if she puts out her heart first. She fears her feelings not being reciprocated. Yes things have drastically changed on virat's end. He is past that vaada and pakhi but sai is not aware of these new developments. She thinks V still loves P and rightly so. A bit of effort from virat in vocalising the new developments will do no harm. He expects her to read him, understand his body language but clearly they still are not normal pati patni in love to play in body language.And also the barricades were in WORDS right??? So why play "read my bodylanguage"now ??? She needs assurance from his side. If sai doesn't reciprocate his advances after this assurance from him then it's her fault. But right now I wouldn't want her to let her guard down .

And both the times they had a talk about being friends the base was already crumbled. Kal toh he started it on a wrong note. There's no point in bringing dosti with pakhi first and then asking her to be his friend🤷. For her these two have ruined the word. Her citing age gap is a mere excuse . She wants to be his go to person with all her heart but she can't let her guard down right now !!!!!!! And I am with her in that

Second each word.

I keep saying this often - because the conditions were placed in explicit words and repeated multiple times and reinforced in actions and silences, it is necessary to talk and clear it. I also get that the emotion is complex and he is not a guy who can express it. If he were, he would have married PP already.

I also think that the big statement that he made about "Main bhi Sai ke saath chala jaunga" did deeply touch her but from her perspective he's guilt-ridden about his actions the previous day and he does act from his emotional state at such times. She knows things have changed. She can sense his feelings, his care and his leaning towards her. She's actually guarding herself so fiercely knowing fully well that she also can break at any point. So, she needs an assurance to know if she should guard her walls like that or not... Is this emotion for the "zimmedari" of five years or forever. It would not harm to just clear that for now. Baaki "mera sach" he can keep for later stages ...

@bold: true. The conversation was not only badly placed in the script but also inappropriately started by Virat. The age gap was really just something she said at the spur of the moment..

Originally posted by: princess1

Very Nice Analysis !

They should play every day this song to all this weird characters

especially P to V and V to S ..D to P and P to D ....P to K ....K TO P ...S to O ....N to A and A to N ....k to M and m to K ......... n so on .....

दुश्मन न करे दोस्त ने वो काम किया है -२ उम्र भर का ग़म हमें ईनाम दिया है दुश्मन न करे दोस्त ने वो काम किया है उम्र भर का ग़म हमें ईनाम दिया है

also we to the channel and producers?

Originally posted by: Roch

Very nice analysis Janki, I haven’t watched the episode and I don’t feel like either. The story is going down the drain and the built up is crashing. I give up, will continue to read the analysis as I love the way you write it’s a thought process which very different.

Coming to the series, I love the chemistry between the leads and they do an excellent job but If you ask me as a viewer I do feel bad for Sai. She didn’t deserve any of this.
Someone pointed out earlier that she had a choice, no she didn’t she was stuck and she was and is vulnerable. Just like you said Janki these mini projects just keep her occupied.
I don’t feel bad for Virat or Pakhi as an individual they brought all this on themselves.

Pakhi as a character and an actor both are confused and highly delusional. I keep telling myself that her scenes are important as they move the story forward (and they are) but they are cringeworthy and to watch her onscreen is a sheer torture. Plus the editing is worst they don’t know which shots to capture, all her shots are in worst expressions rather in one expression.

I thought will wait till this separation track, but the way the creativity is going, they would butcher that as well. So it’s better to just give up, I remember your advice why get stressed remote apne haath mein hain and will follow suit.

Hats off to your patience, Continue writing and will continue reading, if they decide to mend few things in the show will think of watching again.

But for now bas hogaya, patience khatam 😊

Next week will be make or break for the patience.

Originally posted by: deepzz

Lovely post ❤️❤️ The sadness in Sai's voice when talking to Pulkit Abt her stay with Virat was beautifully done. It is good to see that Sai and Pulkit still remembers Abt Devi's mental condition (but Harini 😔)and Pulkit has discussed Devi's case with psychiatrist 🙏

I love Sai-Devi Tai's bond such a warm, loving bond full of care and affection🤗. Nazar na lage🌚.

Loved Sai's threat of doing CN's bezzati in front of neighbours😆 On serious note, CN gang deserves jail as devi had pointed out but then there will be no drama, no serial.

Dreading to watch tomorrow's mahaepisode😕

Harini will be their biggest blooper ..

Originally posted by: linakusharberry

Beautiful analysis janki really enjoyed it , aajkal toda filler laga mujhe with few points clearing our confusion , but one confusion I have is she already in love with him , true love I mean letting go and all

Letting go is not just about being in love. It can be letting go of anything. And so, because there is a barrier that will mean that we cannot really describe it as 'love' because Sai has not yet thought of it that way, we can't deny that the attachment she has with him in itself is a big thing to "let go". Call it whatever -- I would call it 'love'. They are subconsciously in love with each other but they haven't pondered over those feelings -- yet to reach that stage but they are now extremely aware of each other's presence, touch, voice... I believe and I keep repeating it often that no two people remain untouched by each other's love when they are cohabiting with each other, whatever be the nature or name of the relationship (not just spouses). So when you have to separate, it is never easy to let go of the bonds... Relationships are easy to break but very hard to let go ...

, I wanna know virats pov too humneh sai ki sunliya aaj , I really want the stupid vada to be called off asap , cannot see sairat like this

We know Virat's pov.. he is definitely over the vaada, he doesn't even recall or feel guilty about it anymore as we have seen... but to bring himself to face her and answer questions is going to take him a lot of time..

, aur pakhi didi is confusing me with her expressions someone really needs to help her with same ,does sai already know what will be the outcome of devkit milap that she will have to leave CN earlier than scheduled time ,and why didn't they clear the air of confusion regarding harini ohho what kind of MU are they planning to bring in same letter stuff it seems ,

Harini's existence in the plot at the moment is only a big blooper ... I can't see it as anything else. the only way they can cover it up is by showing someone saying that it is for her safety that she shouldn't be mentioned but I still cannot understand why Mama Mami don't want to meet Harini if they are so eager to pack her mummy off to her forever?! Iska explanation kisi ke paas nahi hai 😵

Chalo kal humeh sairat toh milega , uski baad sirf drama drama hoga most famous letter Tuesday Wednesday tak ayega as wahini has taken oath to make virat against this marriage ,

I really hope virat doesn't break his recent promise baaki sab he can and he should break

Let's see... with the kind of dilemma the writers are in with their CTRLX+V, one can't really tell. If they can justify it somehow...

Originally posted by: asmi_joya

That's the only reason I feel bad for Pakhi or the better word would be pity Pakhi.. You know she was having a good life.. might as well have accepted her marriage with Samrat at one point.. But since Sai has come in her life.. there is no purpose to life ..her life has become just about Sai..not even Virat..it has to only do with Sai.. she wants to go for a job only because Sai is going to college.. she has no identity of her own..no viewpoints.. Her obsession with Sai has killer her conscience..The fact that she stood against Sai when she was fighting for Shivani bua in itself says how shallow she has become in her journey of hatred towards Sai.. Now she is someone who should understand the meaning of reuniting two lovers who have been separated for so long.. And it seems she does feel elated looking at them..But then again since Sai is standing on the other side..she has to side by the wrong and in order kill her inner self yet again..She has totally become someone who she herself cannot relate with..

Had the actor been a good one..character of Pakhi has so much to perform, I believe among the three Pakhi's character is the most complicated one .. But since she fails to give even 10% of what is required for the character.. we have come to make fun of Pakhi.. Pakhi is trolled more than Kaku.. Atleast in case of Kaku there are flaws in the character and not the portrayal..Aishwarya I wish came out of her delusion and worked hard on her expressions.. She would have so many good scenes to perform in future.. now that some opportunities have been missed...

Originally posted by: SathyaT

@red, I felt the same today, there was differences in her expression as well today....

@bold, exactly,, she was good at heart initially but she couldn't take no for her but the same has to be given to someone else,, and she hates that someone else to the core and she couldn't stand that person.... With her hatered to Sai she is loosing her self consience and inner voice....

Aish should have portrayed this very aspect from the beginning... That transformation... But still if she does well and improvise in future it's good too..

Originally posted by: msin

I feel bad for PP .. in her hate she’s destroying her life .. there is nothing worth for her to hang on to In Chavan niwas ..but she’s willing to be a slave .. a lot of girls stay on .. if they have no where to go

here pakhi has her parents who are well off .. and she’s stuck here ..

Originally posted by: jane_austen

This is the problem I have with Pakhi's characterization. She is educated, has supportive parents and yet she is delusional. So boring . Her situation could have been changed - may she was orphaned or had a sick single mother ...anything that would give some context to her being so desperate. Instead of 1.47 yoga love, Virakhi could have been shown as college mates who liked each other, but failed to express their feelings (and no vaada nonsense pleeease!!). This would have made Pakhi a rounded character with layers...and the love triangle too would have been much more complex and layered.

Originally posted by: scarlett22

I am fine with Pakhi's characterisation ...at least what it is supposed to be. I think!! A woman who considers herself jilted by life..finds herself living with her ex suitor and his wife. Her own husband has disappeared. The frustration of her life...and then turning that into a bid for control over her ex. To make herself feel relevant she's destroying herself.

It's the portrayal that is crucial. She exercises her control very subtly using the family. Here somehow the charm, the elegance of her character is being destroyed with unnecessary cheap antics. Screen space is not important for her character.

I think we would all agree with @pink points Asmi, Meghna and Jane have made. She was indeed having a good life. And had the backing of her parents until the last minute. Her father was willing to call off the wedding even after Virat refused to marry her-- the father told her she will not be happy and he is willing to go and speak to the family to call off the wedding to Samrat since Virat is unwilling but then they just failed as parents in stopping her from marrying for the wrong reasons. She really didn't have some kind of lack of choice but to marry situation that, in fact, Sai faced. That is why her character cannot have the sympathy of a 'victim'.

I agree with Asmi -- it's become a race for her with Sai, which Sai is not even running and has told her that clearly. It is because -i just mentioned in one post above as well - "What is it about Sai that Virat could not find in me to fight the family?" Her subconscious question and insecurity will soon find the words as well, she is reaching that point. Maybe when she asks that question, she will actually help Virat smell the rat that he has been ignoring... Her constant question "aaj bhi tum Sai ke liye parivaar ke khilaaf jaoge" is boring but that is the crux of her misery -- Why did this man not fight his family to marry me and for me? Sai mein aisa kya hai -- and she does believe that Sai has an effect on him since long ago, since he first mentioned "Sai" to her in the phone conversation on their wedding night when she was trying to make him realise what he's going to lose when his brother comes to share the bed with her and he was talking about Sai -- he had left the wedding to be with Sai. So Sai is her imaginary competitor. To her mind- they share something that she has been unaware about since the beginning.

I disagree with the points that she "had a good heart" but situation made her such. No. People with good hearts remain good. They don't believe in being conditionally good. They know how to deal with their hurts. The bad experiences in life make them more compassionate and not cruel. But manipulative people do not allow their 'good heart' to win. They silence their inner voice when it doesn't fit their scheme of things when it is likely to drive them away from the power they want or hurt their vested interest. Manipulative people take bad experiences as the 'justification' to be vengeful. That is Patralekha -- the sad part is that the performer is unable to bring out the layers but she has a deep sense of vengeance -- she wanted to punish Virat the moment he refused to marry her. She did it first by making him feel jealous at the sangeet, then she walked into his room to question and hold him up and push him to accept his feeling. She was satiated when he said he would "burn alone" for her. That was motivation enough for her to marry his brother with an ulterior motive - to keep reminding him of what he lost and he could have had. If Samrat had not heard the phone call, she would have begun to enjoy the attention while keeping an eye on Virat fulfilling his promise (may be she could have healed but i doubt).

But it is karma -- she's actually the one burning in the fire of loneliness while Virat has actually got the 'love' he deserves and he will soon acknowledge. So she doesn't know how to deal with this--- it was not part of her plan. Her rage for Virat transfers to Sai because she knows she cannot lose it with Virat -- that is another trait of a manipulator. So Virat actually made her that vaada with a clean heart but she accepted it with a motive -- her clean heart was never seen. A person in love would 'let go' -- exactly what I have written about Sai. But PP wants to hold on to some 'power'-- she doesn't mind doing it blindly, immorally, against the principle of natural justice or humanity. So long as her interest is served, she will do whatever she has been told.

I tend to agree with scarlett and especially @blue.

Originally posted by: Fruitcustard_9

Nice post janki.

Bold : mujhe cvs ne unblock kar diya hain , I again asked about Sai's GC money they dint answered yet . I guess when d lady will go GC uske baad hi mil payega.

Please remind them 😆

Thank u apne itne acche se samjhaya sai ka pov .

Only one question as per original sai will keep rejecting virat I guess he will propose her also till d time virat decided to free her & distance himself only that time d lady goes confess her feelings to virat. I don't understand this behaviour ki what d lady actually thinking & want .

This we will be able to discuss only when we know their thought process at that time na... and the journey they undertake before that...

If u keep rejecting someone continuously on what point d person will hold on to try next .

Virat ko koi point 2 chaiye aage badane ke liye or hold on hone ke liye , virat ko kaise pata chalega she is interested in this relationship when she continuously rejecting him is clear answer she is not interested.

I know how rejection make u feel , I myself had faced rejection twice thou I third time I finally got married to d guy . I do had point to hold on to keep trying .

I understand the point you are trying to make. I agree that rejection is disappointing and can shake the best of people. But Virat is not really making efforts to read between her questions. she is asking direct questions actually -- what more can she ask him clearly? She wants to know if she can stay forever or is it still a five year deal - he doesn't ever answer. Fear of rejection sirf Virat ko hi hai? Sai ko nahi? Especially when she knows that this man has told her he is committed to another woman and that woman is in the next room, always ready to barge into this room as it is her own and he doesn't even point out. So shouldn't Sai think that may be he likes Vahini coming into the room again and again. What makes you think Sai doesn't fear that he will reject her if she tells him anything about her feelings? When she tried once after PP left the house he very pointedly told her - "Even if I like/love Pakhi, why should you have a problem. Haven't we discussed this and decided that you will not interfere?" Has he taken back those words? Sai stopped calling it Pati Patni ka kamra after that incident.

As I said, he can get to the I love you part later when he's sure but what is the harm in speaking two sentences - "Don't keep saying five year deal because it is not"... and ... "Pakhi is Samrat's wife and I do not have an affair with her as you think". That's it. It will change a lot of things that Sai is feeling at the moment. I don't want to say anything to make you feel uncomfortable and please don't misunderstand me but since you have shared how you felt when you faced rejection twice, think about it from Sai's perspective -- she's actually living under the same roof as the woman who she thinks rules her husband's heart. He is a caring person by nature and that is all she can think of his actions because she doesn't want to assume that he has any bigger feelings for her...