Dosti se chid ya phir dil maange kuch aur?

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We all want to have someone in our life, not just anyone, someone whom we want to be bound with. A relationship.

We feel secured with parents or with children or with spouse. Any other form of relationship does not give us the rights, the liberty, sense of belonging as much as these relationships.


Sai never had anyone other than her Aaba. Now she is married to Virat, agreed to a deal, but failing to keep it only as a deal. The reason for the failure is the liking for her husband, the attachment, doesn't want to leave him or lose him but claims the other way round due to the agreement between them and due to misunderstandings.


Friendship doesn't give the feeling of oneness, doesn't make you feel complete.


What Sai is giving as the reason cannot be the actual reason why she doesn't want to befriend Virat.

"Jis tareeke je dost aap dono ho, dosti shabd se chid"


I like Sai, believe that she thinks Virat has feelings for Pakhi which he has buried deep within him. She doesn't think he has an affair with Pakhi.

If that is the case, she is being quite illogical to say the above. It has again got to do more with Pakhi I believe.


Kisse chid? Dosti se ya phir ek dost se?

If Pakhi does not show her love for Virat openly (Sai also said Pakhi didi chupathi nahi hai), her hatred for Sai, had control over her emotions like how Sai pointed out to Pakhi today, will Sai still have problems if Virat and Pakhi were friends? I doubt so.


Pakhi and Virat can decide to end their chapter, their relationship and really become friends and one should understand and respect that. Sai would have if that was the case.


So Pakhi is the main reason why Sai doesn't believe that they are friends? Sai has seen how Virat has stood up for her against Pakhi too, he failed initially once or twice but has corrected his mistakes.


Why would one stand up for a girl against his lover, could land him in trouble with his lover? Sai understands that he stands up for right and has no relationship with Pakhi anymore.


That belief has always made her talk to Pakhi as if they are husband and wife, questions Pakhi as a wife, puts Pakhi in her place claiming to be his wife.

She even challenged Pakhi to answer what bothered her when Pakhi saw Sai feeding Virat. She asked how did she comment about them, a couple and if she would do the same with Mohit. She does all of these in front of Virat fully aware that he agrees with her and he also holds the same notion.


She knows and is confident that Virat respects their marital relationship, she understands that he is a man of moral values, values traditions.


Hence her saying she doesn't like the word friend and blaming it on both Virat and Pakhi doesn't make sense.


Pakhi's dominance in their life is making her keep her guards high. So at the mere mention of her name, and especially if it comes out from Virat's mouth, it looks to her as if he has a soft corner for Pakhi, and then Sai loses it.


Is friend the same as wife?


But then why doesn't she want to be friends with him? She wants to be his wife? She doesn't have issues when he calls her his family. Just like how Virat gets insecured, she gets insecured with the word friend. She thinks that he is befriending her only because he actually doesn't consider her to be his wife and doesn't want to make her a part of his life forever.

She knows it was a deal, tells it to remind herself so that she doesn't get carried away with emotions.


The scene between Sai and Pakhi, the dialogue, gives us an insight of the characters.

One cannot control their tongue and the other their emotions. Sai's strong personality is as a result of her having control of her emotions. In the process of controlling her emotions for the man next to her, she acts indifferent.


Virat's hopes and his priority tells it all

If only she can understand that Virat is taking the first step, wants to become friends so that they can understand each other better and to make Sai get comfortable with him. I first couldn't understand why Virat jumped to ask her if she would be his friend, it is just that he ultimately thinks only about them.


Even in the previous episode, he thanks Sai for what she did for his Tai, his Tai was in his head all the while but the only thing that became important for him the minute he realised and recollected about the hand holding conversation was Sai. He immediately withdrew his hands and started to feel guilty.


It was definitely heart wrenching to see Virat in pain when she refused to be his friend. I watched it again to see why did they land at that position right after she gave her hands in his just a few minutes before. Whatever be the reason, even if it was because he pushed some wrong buttons, it turned out to be ugly.


I am surprised at how he is not able to gather the courage to express his feelings or to clarify that he doesn't consider it to be a marriage of deal. The same guy tries his luck again right after she declines his friendship.


He says with so much of hopes that one day they can also become friends. "Ek din hum bhi dost ban jaye" and her reply "mujhe nahi lagta ki kabhi bhi aisa din aayega" just dismissing him off and the idea too. His reaction, he looked angry and upset that she didn't even consider it, he was like can someone be more cruel.

It hit him so hard, why wouldn't it? It was outrightly cruel, she delivered it as if she doesn't care about him and what he is talking about is nonsense. One part of me feels bad for him.

But I tried to see what and why she did that.


Insecurity playing its part!!

She didn't like the idea. She would have liked to hear him saying or calling her his wife but didn't want her to be called his friend. Once he accepts her as his wife wholeheartedly, if he had spoken about friendship, she wouldn't have had an issue.

As I have mentioned above, she thought he wants to make her his friend and consider her to be only a friend in his life and she got hurt and immediately said I don't think so. The mere thought that he can look at her as only a friend hit her hard that she started to play "offense is the best defense" card.

Not that it is justified, thought I will throw some light on why it turned out to be so ugly after how they performed the puja together.


The friendship that she just declined might be offered by her to him once she realises that they both want the same, to stay with each other. And just as he said, may be they will really become good friends too.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: laksh

We all want to have someone in our life, not just anyone, someone whom we want to be bound with. A relationship.

We feel secured with parents or with children or with spouse. Any other form of relationship does not give us the rights, the liberty, sense of belonging as much as these relationships.


Sai never had anyone other than her Aaba. Now she is married to Virat, agreed to a deal, but failing to keep it only as a deal. The reason for the failure is the liking for her husband, the attachment, doesn't want to leave him or lose him but claims the other way round due to the agreement between them and due to misunderstandings.


Friendship doesn't give the feeling of oneness, doesn't makes you feel complete.


What Sai is giving as the reason cannot be the actual reason why she doesn't want to befriend Virat.

"Jis tareeke je dost aap dono ho, dosti shabd se chid"


I like Sai, believe that she thinks Virat has feelings for Pakhi which he has buried deep within him. She doesn't think he has an affair with Pakhi.

If that is the case, she is being quite illogical to say the above. It has again got to do more with Pakhi I believe.


Kisse chid? Dosti se ya phir ek dost se?

If Pakhi does not show her love for Virat openly (Sai also said Pakhi didi chupathi nahi hai), her hatred for Sai, had control over her emotions like how Sai pointed out to Pakhi today, will Sai still have problems if Virat and Pakhi were friends? I doubt so.


Pakhi and Virat can decide to end their chapter, their relationship and really become friends and one should understand and respect that. Sai would have if that was the case.


So Pakhi is the main reason why Sai doesn't believe that they are friends? Sai has seen how Virat has stood up for her against Pakhi too, he failed initially once or twice but has corrected his mistakes.


Why would one stand up for a girl against his lover, could land him in trouble with his lover? Sai understands that he stands up for right and has no relationship with Pakhi anymore.


That belief has always made her talk to Pakhi as if they are husband and wife, questions Pakhi as a wife, puts Pakhi in her place claiming to be his wife.

She even challenged Pakhi to answer what bothered her when Pakhi saw Sai feeding Virat. She asked how did she comment about them, a couple and if she would do the same with Mohit. She does all of these in front of Virat fully aware that he agrees with her and he also holds the same notion.


She knows and is confident that Virat respects their marital relationship, she understands that he is a man of moral values, values traditions.


Hence her saying she doesn't like the word friend and blaming it on both Virat and Pakhi doesn't make sense.


Pakhi's dominance in their life is making her keep her guards high. So at the mere mention of her name, and especially if it comes out from Virat's mouth, it looks to her as if he has a soft corner for Pakhi, and then Sai loses it.


Is friend the same as wife?


But then why doesn't she want to be friends with him? She wants to be his wife? She doesn't have issues when he calls her his family. Just like how Virat gets insecured, she gets insecured with the word friend. She thinks that he is befriending her only because he actually doesn't consider her to be his wife and doesn't want to make her a part of his life forever.

She knows it was a deal, tells it to remind herself so that she doesn't get carried away with emotions.


The scene between Sai and Pakhi, the dialogue, gives us an insight of the characters.

One cannot control their tongue and the other their emotions. Sai's strong personality is as a result of her having control on her emotions. In the process of controlling her emotions for the man next to her, she acts indifferent.


Virat's hopes and his priority tells it all

If only she can understand that Virat is taking the first step, wants to become friends so that they can understand each other better. I first couldn't understand why Virat jumped to ask her if she would be his friend, it is just that he ultimately thinks only about them.


Even in the previous episode, he thanks Sai for what she did for his Tai, his Tai was in his head all the while but the only thing that became important for him was Sai, the minute he realised and recollected about the hand holding conversation.


It was definitely heart wrenching to see Virat in pain when she refused to be his friend. I watched it again to see why did they land at that position right after she gave her hands in his just a few minutes before. Whatever be the reason, even if it was because he pushed some wrong buttons, it turned out to be ugly.


I am surprised at how he is not able to gather the courage to express his feelings or to clarify that he doesn't consider it to be a marriage of deal. The same guy tries his luck again right after she declines his friendship.

He says with so much of hopes that one day they can also become friends. "Ek din hum bhi dost ban jaye" and her reply "mujhe nahi lagta ki kabhi bhi aisa din aayega" just dismissing him off and the idea too. His reaction, he looked angry and upset that she didn't even consider it, he was like can someone be more cruel.

It hit him so hard, why wouldn't it? It was outrightly cruel, she delivered it as if she doesn't care about him and what he is talking about is nonsense. One part of me feels bad for him.


Insecurity playing its part!!

But I tried to see what and why she did that. She didn't like the idea. She would have liked to hear him saying or calling her his wife but didn't want her to be called his friend. Once he accepts her as his wife wholeheartedly, if he had spoken about friendship, she wouldn't have had an issue.

As I have mentioned above, she thought he wants to make her his friend and consider her to be only a friend in his life and she got hurt and immediately said I don't think so. The mere thought that he can look at her as only a friend hit her hard that she started to play "offense is the best defense" card.

Not that it is justified, thought I will throw some light on why it turned out to be so ugly after how they performed the puja together.


The friendship that she just declined will be offered by her to him once she realises that they both want the same, to stay with each other. And just as he said, may be they will really become good friends too.

Friendship would also mean that they can carry on with their deal..get separated after 5 years and remain friends..Sai definitely doesnt want that..When she said I would leave she was looking expectantly at him..to deny her..like he denied downstairs to his family that he would let her go.. She felt dejected when he chose to not address it...Also if you look at it, its Sai who has been shouting hum dono pati patni..since last two days..be it infront of Pakhi or family..while Virat did land up again on the Sai meri zimmedaari part..Virat has not openly called him his wife that much..so may be there is a bit of insecurity they.. Though I do feel bad for Virat ..specially how Sai got in the age difference part...She did let him know that he cant approach him ... In real life it pushed back the guys..


Happened in my case, where someone say 9-10 years older than a friend of mine was interested in her and she had no clue...she did admire him..but was not romantically interested unlike this case..She just mentioned to the guy how her brother had gone ahead and married someone 10 years younger than him against the family wishes and the guy said why does that feel like a problem to her..and she mentioned because the brother is 10 years older to her..and she might not feel that way with a man that old.. This did push the guy back. SHe not being romantically interested kind of not made a lot of difference.. But in general cases if one is intersted and yet in a moment of conflict goes on to mention the age gap, especially when the relationship has not been established and the love/likability not confessed it can mess up the future of any relationship. I really felt bad for Virat , the way Sai rejected his offer.. 😭

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Posted: 5 years ago
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The chid is because of the pyarosti.. She would have probably accepted the offer if it weren't for virat saying why don't you befriend pakhi!


Pakhi looks for mauka to insult sai and virat knows it yet why would you push sai to become her friend..


He is not willing to see what pakhi is doing..

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Originally posted by: Svt611

The chid is because of the pyarosti.. She would have probably accepted the offer if it weren't for virat saying why don't you befriend pakhi!


Pakhi looks for mauka to insult sai and virat knows it yet why would you push sai to become her friend..


He is not willing to see what pakhi is doing..


It is much more than that. She doesn't want to be friendzoned. Instead she wants all her rights as a wife and that's what she expects from Virat, even though she vociferously denies it (a reason why virat becomes reticent when it comes to opnening up to his feelings for sai)

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Originally posted by: asmi_joya

Friendship would also mean that they can carry on with their deal..get separated after 5 years and remain friends..Sai definitely doesnt want that..When she said I would leave she was looking expectantly at him..to deny her..like he denied downstairs to his family that he would let her go.. She felt dejected when he chose to not address it...Also if you look at it, its Sai who has been shouting hum dono pati patni..since last two days..be it infront of Pakhi or family..while Virat did land up again on the Sai meri zimmedaari part..Virat has not openly called him his wife that much..so may be there is a bit of insecurity they.. Though I do feel bad for Virat ..specially how Sai got in the age difference part...She did let him know that he cant approach him ... In real life it pushed back the guys..


Happened in my case, where someone say 9-10 years older than a friend of mine was interested in her and she had no clue...she did admire him..but was not romantically interested unlike this case..She just mentioned to the guy how her brother had gone ahead and married someone 10 years younger than him against the family wishes and the guy said why does that feel like a problem to her..and she mentioned because the brother is 10 years older to her..and she might not feel that way with a man that old.. This did push the guy back. SHe not being romantically interested kind of not made a lot of difference.. But in general cases if one is intersted and yet in a moment of conflict goes on to mention the age gap, especially when the relationship has not been established and the love/likability not confessed it can mess up the future of any relationship. I really felt bad for Virat , the way Sai rejected his offer.. 😭


@bold yeah, that is what I have said, she doesn't want to be just friends. Wants to be his wife.


I think the age part, read it in another post and it made sense. Basically it is due to poor script writing may be.


There is a scene in other versions where the MLs ask the FLs to not call them as aap and ask them to use tum. And they reply saying you are elder to me how do I call you tum. Right after that they have a scene where they even give nick names.


If yesterday's episode was a scene similar to that, they have failed miserably. Because in the other versions, it is a light hearted moment between the couple, it a very cute scene and they spoilt it all.

Looks like they have tried to recreate the same but using their so called creativity and have messed it up by introducing friendship jaap of Pakhi and Sai. Hence the mention of "aap mujhse bade ho" was brought into picture when he tries to befriend her. It doesn't make sense in this context, there the age was use to tell they won't call them tum. 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️


Mein kahaan sar phodoon.

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The chid is because of the pyarosti.. She would have probably accepted the offer if it weren't for virat saying why don't you befriend pakhi!


Pakhi looks for mauka to insult sai and virat knows it yet why would you push sai to become her friend..


He is not willing to see what pakhi is doing..


She got irritated because he had asked her to befriend Pakhi. It somehow looked to Sai that he still thinks that Sai is not able to understand Pakhi even when it is very clear how Pakhi is the one who initiates all the fights. She was made to feel that at the end Virat is thinking about Pakhi.


That was the reason for the change of mood in her but she declined his friendship because she doesn't want to be just his friend, secretly wishes him to accept her as his wife.


Just like how the zimmedari word irritates her, the word Friend also has started to irritate her.

The dosti se chid was used because she got upset with him for everything, first asking her to understand Pakhi and then because he offered her friendship. He just pushed the wrong buttons.

Edited by laksh - 5 years ago
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It is my personal opinion.

Sai is currently experiencing her emotions like a wave.

It once goes upwards,where she begins to see him as her companion,her wall which protects her,her fairy god mother(in this case father),who she can share her wishes with cuz she knows it will be fulfilled,a father figure (father figure as in hero) who she admires.

And the same wave goes downward as well,where she feels that she needs put a wall against that wall which is supporting her. Cuz she is feeling that it is a weak roof which will one day blow off,and that day she will have to face harshness. And that at the end of the day,she is his responsibility. And they are only taken care of and not considered own.

And then there is a line where up and down both meet,the line of insecurity and rejection by the other ,which both fear.

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Mera pati sirf mera hai. 😭 Dosti aur pati dono chahiye. 😳 Pakhi can go to the moon and we can go to honeymoon. ☺️

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Originally posted by: Lostin90s


It is much more than that. She doesn't want to be friendzoned. Instead she wants all her rights as a wife and that's what she expects from Virat, even though she vociferously denies it (a reason why virat becomes reticent when it comes to opnening up to his feelings for sai)

Yea ever since the beginning whenever he mentions zimmedari , she was shown to be upset. Saying Iske alava Apko mean may laggard hun

Be it when Virat tried to convince her to stay in the room after DIG office

Or during the nag nadi in the car, she refused to get down u til he said he wants her to be happy and is not doing it to just fulfill his duty


Both are hesitant to be honest and are hiding behind things like Doshi and deal


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