Epi 187: Give and Take - Page 33

Originally posted by: Abhyudaya

I think considering Valentine's Day and 200th episode is near let's see what kind of twist they will bring. Though this Valentine's Day if - I repeat if she tells him about pregnancy by 200 I feel she will know about her parent's truth.

It can be such that first, she will know and later when Ishani try to hurt her maybe all will know about it.

So need to see how she is going to take it. The thing is if you see the show it's always about what decisions Ridhima takes, both Vansh and Kabir work on it.

So hoping makers come up with the good plot as this track is the nice one talking about Mafia children - such a sensitive topic. hope they handle well.

I agree they need to definitely figure out something that will get viewers to watch needs to be better than anything they have shown no track has measured up to ViVa track as of now so really time to get the brain going and thinking hard.

i have always envisioned Riddhima's miscarriage will happen when she will know the parent's truth , may b in front of Vansh , who will see her in pain and will realize the worth of what he has lost . he will surely gonna lose riddhima with the baby . riddhima will b terribly hurt and angry . Her indignation does not last in front of Vansh for a long time. Vansh should taste Wife's ignorance and indignation .I want him to burn in jealousy and howl in anger to see Kabir near her .

Originally posted by: rheuji17

I agree they need to definitely figure out something that will get viewers to watch needs to be better than anything they have shown no track has measured up to ViVa track as of now so really time to get the brain going and thinking hard.

Vansh trusting too much on Kabir is something the audience is not taking it lightly. So if they are thinking to show him as mastermind at the last then the show won't stabilize. Better they show now itself Vansh has his doubts and yet seeing to what extent Kabir can act or he wants to know why suddenly he is changing, what is his motive? On those lines.... because they need that Vansh. The clueless one is unable to digest by anyone.

Better makers figure out things sooner.

Originally posted by: pyaar2012

i have always envisioned Riddhima's miscarriage will happen when she will know the parent's truth , may b in front of Vansh , who will see her in pain and will realize the worth of what he has lost . he will surely gonna lose riddhima with the baby . riddhima will b terribly hurt and angry . Her indignation does not last in front of Vansh for a long time. Vansh should taste Wife's ignorance and indignation .I want him to burn in jealousy and howl in anger to see Kabir near her .

If the story is going to continue and then I feel certainly miscarriage will happen. And yes he needs to see it. He always got a free pass with her and this time he should earn it totally. Do you see his ignorance towards his sibling's mistakes is catching my wrong nerve? What kind of responsibility it is when he cannot correct their mistakes.

Considering 14th February and 200th episode is near, let's see what the makers have planned. All the tracks are good but they badly fail in the execution.

Originally posted by: Abhyudaya

If the story is going to continue and then I feel certainly miscarriage will happen. And yes he needs to see it. He always got a free pass with her and this time he should earn it totally. Do you see his ignorance towards his sibling's mistakes is catching my wrong nerve? What kind of responsibility it is when he cannot correct their mistakes.

Considering 14th February and 200th episode is near, let's see what the makers have planned. All the tracks are good but they badly fail in the execution.

Originally posted by: pyaar2012

I ill not call it ignorant i will call him biased and blind by love . Yeh vansh ki insecurity hai ... papa nhi hai toh mein papa ki tarah hoon , mein unhe protect karunga ...kuch nhi hone dunga ... aise attitude teeno ki prati hai .ARYAN AND ISHANI takes advantage of it Siya does not . agar woh ignorant hota toh woh ishani ko cover up nhi karta ... he knows his siblings are his weak point . he always think that he cannot afford to lose anyone as he lost both of his parents . khone ki dar se woh batien chupata hai galti overlook karta hai . ignorant woh sirf filhal mujhe kabir ki taraf dikh raha hai . agar kabir ka uski jan bachana usne sach mein act of humanity man liya issi badi bewkufi kya ho sakti hai .Riddhima and family can do that ,but vansh he should not.

See if he wants to be father figure it's fine. But he has different meaning towards the responsibility. It comes with correcting the mistakes not always forgiving. Vansh - you might call biased love or I call it as ignorant or cover-up - he protects them for their mistakes. But he should not learn protecting means it's not always covering up the mistakes - it's also telling them the difference between right and wrong. Making them take responsibility of their own actions. I think he should learn it soon before he loses something precious - maybe after he loses his baby due to the family, then he will know I feel.

Well, what he is for Kabir - I don't know but yes the rest of the house thinking Kabir is nice and VR thinking Kabir is nice is entirely two different things. If VR falling into Kabir trap of humanity, then I don't know what more to expect. But if he is planning anything, better show soon rather than when the show is at the bottom of the TRP.

Originally posted by: Abhyudaya

If the story is going to continue and then I feel certainly miscarriage will happen. And yes he needs to see it. He always got a free pass with her and this time he should earn it totally. Do you see his ignorance towards his sibling's mistakes is catching my wrong nerve? What kind of responsibility it is when he cannot correct their mistakes.

Considering 14th February and 200th episode is near, let's see what the makers have planned. All the tracks are good but they badly fail in the execution.

Ofcourse his protection if we see made his siblings insensitive and irrational...but here the biggest problem is his overlooking Aryan's betrayal...he always protected them but he was clear he will never forgive if they go against him but regarding Aryan he is letting him off the hook everytime when he tried to harm ishani's child by siding with Kabir,I mean riddhima made to undergo such a mental torture for the same betrayal reasons but Aryan🙄

And again in matter of her parents,he clearly saw Aryan again going on back of him,harming his relationship and helping kabir to take out the secret out which he trying to hide....but no Aryan is again off the hook while initially he was not introduced as such...he made rule of betrayal universal even for his family members thats why even if they indulge in reckless behaviours(which for instance I am not justifying) but betraying or going against Vansh was always off the table for them and if they do it in the way he doesn't came to know....

I actually want answer for this question more than his definition of responsibility or protection becoz thats there since starting episode so I can understood it and would love to see growth in that matter but forgiving betrayals even of enemies,strangers as well as loved ones including family members was never there in his dictionary since 1st episode which is his family members were also aware of with Aryan's line"vansh bhai se dhokha bardashat kahan hota hai"

Originally posted by: Nephy

Ofcourse his protection if we see made his siblings insensitive and irrational...but here the biggest problem is his overlooking Aryan's betrayal...he always protected them but he was clear he will never forgive if they go against him but regarding Aryan he is letting him off the hook everytime when he tried to harm ishani's child by siding with Riddhima,I mean riddhima made to undergo such a mental torture for the same betrayal reasons but Aryan🙄

Vansh has a different meaning for the word - responsibility. Always covering up their mistakes and all. I feel he will learn in the hard way that responsibility comes up with making his siblings know what mistakes they did and how they should themselves take responsibility for it.

And again in matter of her parents,he clearly saw Aryan again going on back of him,harming his relationship and helping kabir to take out the secret out which he trying to hide....but no Aryan is again off the hook while initially he was not introduced as such...he made rule of betrayal universal even for his family members thats why even if they indulge in reckless behaviours(which for instance I am not justifying) but betraying or going against Vansh was always off the table for them and if they do it in the way he doesn't came to know....

I actually want answer for this question more than his definition of responsibility or protection becoz thats there since starting episode so I can understood it and would love to see growth in that matter but forgiving betrayals even of enemies,strangers as well as loved ones including family members was never there in his dictionary since 1st episode which is his family members were also aware of with line"vansh bhai se dhokha bardashat kahan hota hai"

Exactly, the man who actually doubted his entire family at the time of Shera incident is ignoring or being unbiased - I don't know why? Like the makers should say this why he is not doing anything about this? Why is such a hypocrite?

Originally posted by: Abhyudaya

Vansh trusting too much on Kabir is something the audience is not taking it lightly. So if they are thinking to show him as mastermind at the last then the show won't stabilize. Better they show now itself Vansh has his doubts and yet seeing to what extent Kabir can act or he wants to know why suddenly he is changing, what is his motive? On those lines.... because they need that Vansh. The clueless one is unable to digest by anyone.

Better makers figure out things sooner.

I agree it is hard to digest vansh being this way, but what I feel is he has gratitude towards kabir. His moment in that warehouse was a very vulnerable moment for him and kabir was his savior from that tragic situation. I think that's normal, any person who appears as our savior during the most vulnerable moment of our lives we tend to have a soft spot and some gratitude. Yes he must've come with an agenda but at that moment he did a big deal for vansh. As far as this is a temporary feeling it is fine but if they continue vansh fully trusting kabir then there is a problem there.

I don't know why but they have tonned vansh character to a normal ITV hero level 😪 that is ruining majority of things. I hope we get back our mastermind soon

Originally posted by: Abhyudaya

Exactly, the man who actually doubted his entire family at the time of Shera incident is ignoring or being unbiased - I don't know why? Like the makers should say this why he is not doing anything about this? Why is such a hypocrite?

I would not have problem actually if they were introduced him initially only as someone who forgives betrayal of his family but they didnot...they introduced him as he will not even leave his family members if they betrayed him...Oh God I have this habbit that my mind doesn't tend to forget things whenever we proceed in story it always tries to connect with initial incidents as well as dialogues of the characters and whole of dynamics and I just can't change and now the same thing is making me frustrated becoz now also regarding vansh's character for instance even Kabir's,ishani's everyone's actually I got confused and frustrated when found no connect.

Like in this case people having discussion over his siblings behaviour being such...like ishani to be a remorseless accidental murderer and Aryan being a molestor due to Vansh's twisted sense of responsibility as their guardian.

Lekin mujhe us cheez koi problem hi nhi hai kyunki he is introduced like this that he will do anything for family"family se badh kar kuch nhi"is shown to be his viewpoint since first episode so him protecting everything taking Ishani's blame I could connect with meri problem to uske betrayal ko lekar instance hai despite considering family everything he never allowed them to step on him,or use his protection against him or betray him,he protected them with a price and that price was unconditional loyalty and never betraying him aur mein ab ys cheez se conmect nhi kar pa rhi hu...

Thats why I was screaming few days ago that pls let Aryan be in his team,it can actually clear a very big doubt of my mind but nhi makers ke plans to frustrate krne ke hai...🤦‍♀️

P.S.Regarding his instance of responsibility,his understanding true meaning will be a growth as story wise no doubt but yahan pehle jo doubt ho rhe hai vo to clear ho jaye...they seriously making it difficult to watch this serial....