Pregnancy and Riansh.

The pregnancy have quite riled us up. Firstly it was a unnecessary track. Makers ko koi zaroorat nhi thi iss track ko lane ka! So lets discuss what we can expect and what is my opinion.

The track -The track can b made interesting as Parent hood is a phase and Riansh being an unique couple will have a different take about it.

Vansh

-He is scared that he cannot afford to lose his baby and He dont want two weaknesses in his life. His concern and fear is genuine but its also irrational a bit according to me. He is very carnal in nature. But at the same time has emotion. He knows that he will have enemies in his own home and outside.So his fear from where he is coming from is understandable. The prpblem is Itv always glorify pregnancy and childbirth as some 'Punya ka kam' rather than taking it as a natural phenomena.Usually itv male leads are cluelss and they met and gell with their kids after separation even Dev and Atharav did that.But Vansh probably is the first male lead who dont want a baby though he loves children and will b an excellent father if he give himself a chance. So we can speculate three possibilities

First Riddhima leaving Vansh and start a separate life.but i dont think makers will show that.

Second Vansh will ask her to abort the child.Fandom will bash him like hell but this quite novel that a male lead wants his child aborted who is actually is a love child. His insecurities can b shown well.

Third,Vansh will b framed by Kabir as he will potray Vansh has aborted the child without Riddhima 's concern.

Riddhima

She is clueless about her pregnancy and Ishani 's miscarriage ,Vansh 's reluctance may send her to guilt trip or shock. She will either hide it from Vansh or Kabir will indirectly made the miscarriage happen. If the show is ending ,then only makers can show him or her born.

With the passing of time i guess Vansh will get attached with the child and then they may lose it.

Kabir -He will definately use the pregnancy track and the parent track against Vansh. And as a viewer i want this to happen as Ridhima needs to know that VR can b insecure as well as manipulative. Loving the man with his flaws thats what the title suggests.

Makers

I think the makers really need to work hard on the story. They still have a lot many things to show.Why cannot they show a proper separation even if its short. If they are scared of pandemic then They must show something that can keep thenselves apart. The pregnancy track was needless and they were just trying it.They can still make it interesting even if they want to show Kabir psychotic. A memory loss and Sexual tension vara Riansh can save the show.

I think closing all the previous loose ends can bring the old viewers back...because they left out of disappointment...in thriller genre ....if you create suspense you need to also bring it to climax n give closure....i still remember fandom here used to go crazymaking theories...but now they have quit...

Cuz they have seen a pattern...that day I read your post on kava score...u are actually right ...vansh did have upper hand over kabir...but it was subtle n looks like co incidence....

The emotional growth of riansh, their insecurities, and love for each other has been written well by writers the growth is beautiful...

But they need to give a jolt to audience...destroy their pattern, show vansh planning kabir's doom, laying a trap for him, seeking vengeance...180 plus episodes...viewers deserve it..!!!

If vansh is mastermind, ruthless, intelligent then kabir is cold, remorseless,manipulative, cunning, without any morals...it should be battle of equals...

but it will be unique for itv...male lead not wanting child due to his insecurities fear n dysfunctional childhood....

And I also agree...if vansh gives himself a chance he will be an excellent father...a great fierce protector for his children

can you please tell me for which episode nos trp dropped to 1.1....riansh wedding was very well written...can one wrong move in terms of writing can bring the trp down...all the saying that week ridz took kabir's help...i am just curious...because I really liked it...

Originally posted by: vallu123

can you please tell me for which episode nos trp dropped to 1.1....riansh wedding was very well written...can one wrong move in terms of writing can bring the trp down...all the saying that week ridz took kabir's help...i am just curious...because I really liked it...

Originally posted by: SexyPotato

Day wise trp is only known to ph & channel.

No not the day wise...for eg epi170 to 176 trp is say 1.2....waise puch rahi hoon..

Originally posted by: SexyPotato

Day wise trp is only known to ph & channel.

Originally posted by: pyaar2012

The pregnancy have quite riled us up. Firstly it was a unnecessary track. Makers ko koi zaroorat nhi thi iss track ko lane ka! So lets discuss what we can expect and what is my opinion.

The track -The track can b made interesting as Parent hood is a phase and Riansh being an unique couple will have a different take about it.

Vansh

-He is scared that he cannot afford to lose his baby and He dont want two weaknesses in his life. His concern and fear is genuine but its also irrational a bit according to me. He is very carnal in nature. But at the same time has emotion. He knows that he will have enemies in his own home and outside.So his fear from where he is coming from is understandable. The prpblem is Itv always glorify pregnancy and childbirth as some 'Punya ka kam' rather than taking it as a natural phenomena.Usually itv male leads are cluelss and they met and gell with their kids after separation even Dev and Atharav did that.But Vansh probably is the first male lead who dont want a baby though he loves children and will b an excellent father if he give himself a chance. So we can speculate three possibilities

First Riddhima leaving Vansh and start a separate life.but i dont think makers will show that.

Second Vansh will ask her to abort the child.Fandom will bash him like hell but this quite novel that a male lead wants his child aborted who is actually is a love child. His insecurities can b shown well.

Third,Vansh will b framed by Kabir as he will potray Vansh has aborted the child without Riddhima 's concern.

Riddhima

She is clueless about her pregnancy and Ishani 's miscarriage ,Vansh 's reluctance may send her to guilt trip or shock. She will either hide it from Vansh or Kabir will indirectly made the miscarriage happen. If the show is ending ,then only makers can show him or her born.

With the passing of time i guess Vansh will get attached with the child and then they may lose it.

Kabir -He will definately use the pregnancy track and the parent track against Vansh. And as a viewer i want this to happen as Ridhima needs to know that VR can b insecure as well as manipulative. Loving the man with his flaws thats what the title suggests.

Makers

I think the makers really need to work hard on the story. They still have a lot many things to show.Why cannot they show a proper separation even if its short. If they are scared of pandemic then They must show something that can keep thenselves apart. The pregnancy track was needless and they were just trying it.They can still make it interesting even if they want to show Kabir psychotic. A memory loss and Sexual tension vara Riansh can save the show.

you have put some excellent points, which i am trying t make others understand from quite some time. just because someone become pregnant that doesn't mean they have to give birth, a child should be the sign of parents love for the baby not their mistake, if they genuinely feel they are not ready for the child they should not bring another life in the world. By becoming parents you take the biggest responsibility of your life, you are not just responsible for feeding, clothing, protecting the child you are responsible what that person becomes.

if you doubt that you can't give your child everything you wish to give then don't let them come to life, 2-3 months termination of pregnancy is not killing of a child, it's just hatched egg.

i loved that vansh said he don't want children, it was quite mature of him to say those things loud, never in itv i saw a villain saying it loud, let alone a hero. this makes me love vansh more. he is a mature man, he has seen into the eyes of death multiple times, and he knows as long as he lives his life will always be in danger, he can die any days. He knows his family can survive his demise, as they have seen him near death multiple time, they are strong this way.

but can he really leave his ridhima and his baby this vulnerable? can he leave his little child as orphan as he and his siblings were left after his parents death ? will he ever allow his child to be also grow up fatherless ? can he let his ridhima be crushed under the weight to of his responsibilities ? can he let two pieces of his heart bear the consequences of his reckless decision ?

Ridhima wants nothing more than a family to call her own and she deserve that but shouldn't she think it through as well ? will she want her child to also suffer her fate? i hope ridhima for once understand his point of view as well, before judging him from her high morality chair and her blinded love.

Kabir is sitting on a gold mine currently, i will be an idiot if i believe he will not use it for his purpose (which for the record is not just to get all vr property but to snatch every thing which belongs to vansh. valuable non valuable it don't matter to him). Ishani is his easiest prey with all the incidents which have happened in previous and monday episode. I am waiting to see hw he is going to use her and all the info he has with him.

Biggest plot twist would be if Ishani could keep her loyalties to her brother intact even after all what is going to happen to her. That will somehow redeem her in my eyes for Ridhima's parents death.

Originally posted by: pyaar2012

The pregnancy have quite riled us up. Firstly it was a unnecessary track. Makers ko koi zaroorat nhi thi iss track ko lane ka! So lets discuss what we can expect and what is my opinion.

The track -The track can b made interesting as Parent hood is a phase and Riansh being an unique couple will have a different take about it.

Vansh

-He is scared that he cannot afford to lose his baby and He dont want two weaknesses in his life. His concern and fear is genuine but its also irrational a bit according to me. He is very carnal in nature. But at the same time has emotion. He knows that he will have enemies in his own home and outside.So his fear from where he is coming from is understandable. The prpblem is Itv always glorify pregnancy and childbirth as some 'Punya ka kam' rather than taking it as a natural phenomena.Usually itv male leads are cluelss and they met and gell with their kids after separation even Dev and Atharav did that.But Vansh probably is the first male lead who dont want a baby though he loves children and will b an excellent father if he give himself a chance. So we can speculate three possibilities

First Riddhima leaving Vansh and start a separate life.but i dont think makers will show that.

Second Vansh will ask her to abort the child.Fandom will bash him like hell but this quite novel that a male lead wants his child aborted who is actually is a love child. His insecurities can b shown well.

Third,Vansh will b framed by Kabir as he will potray Vansh has aborted the child without Riddhima 's concern.

Riddhima

She is clueless about her pregnancy and Ishani 's miscarriage ,Vansh 's reluctance may send her to guilt trip or shock. She will either hide it from Vansh or Kabir will indirectly made the miscarriage happen. If the show is ending ,then only makers can show him or her born.

With the passing of time i guess Vansh will get attached with the child and then they may lose it.

Kabir -He will definately use the pregnancy track and the parent track against Vansh. And as a viewer i want this to happen as Ridhima needs to know that VR can b insecure as well as manipulative. Loving the man with his flaws thats what the title suggests.

Makers

I think the makers really need to work hard on the story. They still have a lot many things to show.Why cannot they show a proper separation even if its short. If they are scared of pandemic then They must show something that can keep thenselves apart. The pregnancy track was needless and they were just trying it.They can still make it interesting even if they want to show Kabir psychotic. A memory loss and Sexual tension vara Riansh can save the show.

Interesting post Pyaar

For me I am quite pleased about this track; I had said earlier that they would show a pregnancy track...I was expecting it to be around Ahana saga when Rhiddima left for all of 5 mins..anyway I was guessing around epi 200 but now looks more like a Valentines day surprise for Vansh or not as may be.

Where I have a problem is with tracks that are open ended or just fizzled out and then no explanation.

Your pov regarding Vansh is good.

"Vansh

-He is scared that he cannot afford to lose his baby and He dont want two weaknesses in his life. His concern and fear is genuine but its also irrational a bit according to me. He is very carnal in nature. But at the same time has emotion. He knows that he will have enemies in his own home and outside.So his fear from where he is coming from is understandable. "

I totally agree with your quote above this is where a lot of Vansh's fears stems from. If Rhiddima is his weakness and strenght then so too is his family...Ishani & Siya's children may well be targets in the future...any member of RaiSinghania clan is so he better take off his shades and see daylight for a change

Your second point;

"But Vansh probably is the first male lead who dont want a baby though he loves children and will be an excellent father if he give himself a chance. "

The above is also very true...probably he never allowed himself to dream of being married; to have wife to love; to be loved, to have a home & family if his own.

Your three possibilities:

"First Riddhima leaving Vansh and start a separate life.but i dont think makers will show that.

Second Vansh will ask her to abort the child.Fandom will bash him like hell but this quite novel that a male lead wants his child aborted who is actually is a love child. His insecurities can b shown well.

Third,Vansh will b framed by Kabir as he will potray Vansh has aborted the child without Riddhima 's concern."

It might be a mixture of the three. I can see Rhiddima leaving but not for long...but long enough for change of some kind to take place.

Vansh asking her to abort the child...I get where you are coming from but this is then hypocritical if this is the case. When Ishani found herself pregnant she did not want the baby; it was not planned & she thought Sunny dead...she wanted an abortion and Aryan supported her but the family esp Dadi said no way.... it was Rhiddima who came up with marriage to Angre solution .

If Vansh his family which includes his siblings like Siya and Ishani was in danger by bringing an heir into VR mansions then he would have told them that unwise to have a family. He is excited by the idea of becoming an uncle. He never told Ishani to abort her child because he is afraid of the danger Ishani and her child are exposed to by having a child...if he has no intention of having a child then what is need for the shady business. His natural heirs will be his nieces and nephews to be.. so he cannot say to his wife have an abortion if he cant say it to his sister...because ALL members of VR family are targets because of the business he is in.

Secondly RiAnsh cant keep their hamds off each other now that the love each other...if this is the case in modern times I guess couples either talk about their decision to have a family or it comes as a pleasant or unpleasant surprise. If he did not want a a child because of his fears he should have discussed it with Rhiddima before hand or practiced his famous "self control" japp instead of reaching out to undress her in every episode 😃

I would be very shocked if Rhiddima's character would agreed to a request by

Vansh to have an abortion if this is the way track goes? Rhiddima was an orphan, she would have dreamt of a secure family, she is in love & loved by Vansh and this in her mind is a loved & wanted baby probably not planned but a symbol of their love is the way she will view it...so whilst she may just be beginning to be aware of the shady business her husband is involved in and will understand his fears should he be bothered to explain them to her, I doubt she will see it in the same light as Vansh.

I think I read in a post somewhere Rhiddima saying this is no environment for a child to be born in...she probably means the risky business Vansh is involved in...but in that case either she will ask Vansh to give up risky business or she will use this as part of decision to leave if he refuses.

Third,Vansh will b framed by Kabir as he will potray Vansh has aborted the child without Riddhima 's concern."

This I can see happening but I do not see Rhiddima choosing abortion, but like you I can see Kabir exploiting the situtation to work his way.

Your next point;

"Riddhima

She is clueless about her pregnancy and Ishani 's miscarriage ,Vansh 's reluctance may send her to guilt trip or shock. She will either hide it from Vansh or Kabir will indirectly made the miscarriage happen. If the show is ending ,then only makers can show him or her born."

Well right now epi 186 Rhddima is clueless about being pregnant but not for long. By Tue/ Thur she will know..build up will be Valentines day to tell Vansh.

As to Ishani's miscarriage if that is what happens then I guess its part of storyline..thats why bts of Angre crying..he wanted the baby..Vansh crying..probably out of sadness for his sister and out if the fact that he pushed Rhiddima to one side and in doing so Ishani was hit with poisoned dart...BUT we dont know if Ishani loses the baby..we will see...in the past few months there has been no sign of Ishani showing any such feeling one way or another about her pregnancy..but that is writers fault..

"Kabir -He will definately use the pregnancy track and the parent track against Vansh. And as a viewer i want this to happen as Ridhima needs to know that VR can b insecure as well as manipulative. Loving the man with his flaws"

Soo agree with you here it will be really interesting to see how he breaks up RiAnsh bubble...I don't see Kabir making a situation for Rhiddima to have a miscarriage...if anything he will actively say he will take both Rhiddima and the baby if Vansh doesn't want the baby..and to see Vansh enraged with this is exactly what Kabir wants...Vansh will play straight into Kabirs hands.

Your next point,;

With the passing of time i guess Vansh will get attached with the child and then may lose it.

Yes this too may happen and it may be through mix of above or even Chang maybe kidnapping Rhiddima or whatever it will be good.to see cvs tackling a sensitive track but for myself I feel Rhiddima & Vansh deserve some joy in their life so for me I'd like to see the show end with a new baby coming in

Lastly

"I think the makers really need to work hard on the story. They still have a lot many things to show.Why cannot they show a proper separation even if its short. If they are scared of pandemic then They must show something that can keep thenselves apart. The pregnancy track was needless and they were just trying it.They can still make it interesting even if they want to show Kabir psychotic. A memory loss and Sexual tension vara Riansh can save the show"

Agree with you...I would like secret of locket and Rhiddimas parents death to come out and either Kabir or Ishani in revenge (if her baby does die) will do the honours...that situation may cause either a miscarriage for Rhiddima but I think the dual news of parents death and if Vansh asks for an abortion IF track goes that way will come together and this will be the separation track. I dont need memory loss track for me as writers have enough amnesia in their unfinished tracks; though watching an psychotic and deranged Kabir all of a sudden who has got the hots for Rhiddima versus a obsessive and delusional Vansh for Rhiddima is interesting ( I say delusional because there is no way the secret about her parents death can remain hidden..please cvs dont dissappoint)😁

Originally posted by: phoenix27

you have put some excellent points, which i am trying t make others understand from quite some time. just because someone become pregnant that doesn't mean they have to give birth, a child should be the sign of parents love for the baby not their mistake, if they genuinely feel they are not ready for the child they should not bring another life in the world. By becoming parents you take the biggest responsibility of your life, you are not just responsible for feeding, clothing, protecting the child you are responsible what that person becomes.

if you doubt that you can't give your child everything you wish to give then don't let them come to life, 2-3 months termination of pregnancy is not killing of a child, it's just hatched egg.

i loved that vansh said he don't want children, it was quite mature of him to say those things loud, never in itv i saw a villain saying it loud, let alone a hero. this makes me love vansh more. he is a mature man, he has seen into the eyes of death multiple times, and he knows as long as he lives his life will always be in danger, he can die any days. He knows his family can survive his demise, as they have seen him near death multiple time, they are strong this way.

but can he really leave his ridhima and his baby this vulnerable? can he leave his little child as orphan as he and his siblings were left after his parents death ? will he ever allow his child to be also grow up fatherless ? can he let his ridhima be crushed under the weight to of his responsibilities ? can he let two pieces of his heart bear the consequences of his reckless decision ?

Ridhima wants nothing more than a family to call her own and she deserve that but shouldn't she think it through as well ? will she want her child to also suffer her fate? i hope ridhima for once understand his point of view as well, before judging him from her high morality chair and her blinded love.

Kabir is sitting on a gold mine currently, i will be an idiot if i believe he will not use it for his purpose (which for the record is not just to get all vr property but to snatch every thing which belongs to vansh. valuable non valuable it don't matter to him). Ishani is his easiest prey with all the incidents which have happened in previous and monday episode. I am waiting to see hw he is going to use her and all the info he has with him.

Biggest plot twist would be if Ishani could keep her loyalties to her brother intact even after all what is going to happen to her. That will somehow redeem her in my eyes for Ridhima's parents death.

I have zero level of expectation from Ishani. Only flaw that i am witnessing in Vansh is his lack of communication. Riddhima has every right to know about it and most importantly Vansh needs to know about her point of view. I am only upset with the fact Vansh will never discuss this with her buts its she who should b the first one to know.