IMMj Episodes Discussion Thread #67 - Page 30

Originally posted by: ILTHBEB

I have just watched episode. In whole episode vansh was truly scaring specially in asking question about ridhima's most important things in her life..how ridhima could not catch this intimidation staring of vansh at her! ..rrahul has done nice job whole episode he drived only by his eyes expression.

Btw, I heard in season 1 also this type track there for arohi? 🤔 do not know what stupidity is cvs gonna to show in upcoming episodes?

Originally posted by: amritat

https://t.co/ApepqyTyXJ?amp=1

Read it...but I cant agree with half of the things here.

Did Riddhima ever demand trust and love from Vansh until recently? From what I remember, it was always the opposite.

Riddhima was always unsure and shaky about her feelings, sandwiched between her loyalty for Kabir and newfound feelings for Vansh. When she realized she loves Vansh, she was terrified of him finding out the truth...n hence rarely asserted her right on him. It was Vansh who expected her love and unconditional trust like a typical alpha.

The article says she disrespected his love. Did he not do the same, in a different way? By insulting her in front of his family...by ignoring the attacks on her? By not giving any importance to her words? By lying to her about his ex Ragini?

Two times, I felt Riddhima crossed her lines unreasonably. One was when she dressed as his mom and accused him. Thankfully, she apologized to him soon after when she realized her mistake. Another time was when she learnt about Ragini for the first time. That time, she crossed her limits and touched her raw nerve.

Otherwise, most other actions/mistakes/idiocy of Riddhima were somehow guided by circumstances and Vansh's own words and actions - Ragini's kidnapping being one of them.

It is amusing when the person who is more empowered and has more control over the situation plays the victim.

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If Vansh had found out about Ridhbir right after Ishani's wedding...I would have really cried for him. 😭 Bcoz that time, Vansh was a changed man. He really made an effort to work on the marriage. He was kind to Riddhima...was caring towards her. He had begun to trust her a lot. At that time, my 60% support would have gone to him...40% for Riddhima.

But since then, a lot has happened. Vansh has disrespected Riddhima quite a lot...to the extent of paralyzing her. He even slept with her, knowing well that he would dump her soon after.

I am thoroughly enjoying the revenge track, loving the nastiness as angst lover...but sympathies? No.

Only benefit of doubt Vansh gets is bcoz he doesnt yet know the full story. He is behaving irrationally bcoz Kabir has manipulated him. Once he finds out the truth...he will regret. Ideally, he is Vansh Raisinghania. It shouldnt be that hard for him to find out the truth...but this is ITV...so...

In my perspective before ridhima was liable for making their relationship huge complicated whenever there were chances to her to keep her relationship with vansh peaceful & this time vansh is doing same mistake but definitely according to his eerie ways whenever he has big chance to make a very peaceful relationship with ridhima thinking rationally everything.

Originally posted by: Muskie

yeah deep changed Arohi's face, took her identity and made Tara as Arohi *whatever his surname was*

OK for deep there weak point was tara ...here how vansh will do this!

Originally posted by: Innocentlove96

Agreed with every point.

But i always felt both are at fault - to each their own.

Neither Riddhu nor Vansh were less in making mistakes according to their character.

If we want we can argue for Riddhu endlessly so as for Vansh also......can point out Vansh mistakes and Riddhu also with long list.....

About trust and love..... Riddhima always lectured Vansh to trust others and open up since she entered VR mansion but she never tried to see Vansh from her own perception she had formed an image of him based on what she heard, don't you think that's first injustice you do to someone or stranger.....and after marriage she didn't back out from attacking him with her words neither Vansh was less in scaring her..... I'm sure all of us remembered the great breakdown of Vansh after losing ragini and many had bashed Riddhima for that....I feel role is reversed.....

So can't take anyone's side both are at fault....and no one is less than other....so even I don't have any sympathies with either one of them....

The track is actually good....full on angst romance rage and everything.....but I always felt something missing in plotline..... maybe not any developed side story or active involvement of other characters.....and that shrouded mystery of Vansh Rai Singhania mind working process his thoughts and intentions......and most important if betrayal is that sensitive issue for him then how can he let go of Anupriya so easily.....as long as Vihaan track was going on I was able to understand the trap he tried to put as Vihaan but that track was scrapped with anupriya being sent to jail......

Now what's going on is good..... revenge against Riddhima.....but what about others.....y others aren't under his radar....or maybe something else is going on....that only time will tell....

Bold 2- the track is actually good, I was really waiting for his revenge since his dialogue at their wedding night, but the reasons are really illogical

Bold3- exactly my point, wasn't the beautiful mom most trustworthy person in life, for whom he shouted on wife s lot of times. He has been loving, trusting, caring for her since long and Riddhu is just for months right???? Then why such partiality???? Kyunnn??? Janta maange jawaab?????

Originally posted by: ILTHBEB

OK for deep there weak point was tara ...here how vansh will do this!

Originally posted by: Innocentlove96

Agreed with every point.

But i always felt both are at fault - to each their own.

Neither Riddhu nor Vansh were less in making mistakes according to their character.

If we want we can argue for Riddhu endlessly so as for Vansh also......can point out Vansh mistakes and Riddhu also with long list.....

About trust and love..... Riddhima always lectured Vansh to trust others and open up since she entered VR mansion but she never tried to see Vansh from her own perception she had formed an image of him based on what she heard, don't you think that's first injustice you do to someone or stranger.....and after marriage she didn't back out from attacking him with her words neither Vansh was less in scaring her..... I'm sure all of us remembered the great breakdown of Vansh after losing ragini and many had bashed Riddhima for that....I feel role is reversed.....

So can't take anyone's side both are at fault....and no one is less than other....so even I don't have any sympathies with either one of them....

The track is actually good....full on angst romance rage and everything.....but I always felt something missing in plotline..... maybe not any developed side story or active involvement of other characters.....and that shrouded mystery of Vansh Rai Singhania mind working process his thoughts and intentions......and most important if betrayal is that sensitive issue for him then how can he let go of Anupriya so easily.....as long as Vihaan track was going on I was able to understand the trap he tried to put as Vihaan but that track was scrapped with anupriya being sent to jail......

Now what's going on is good..... revenge against Riddhima.....but what about others.....y others aren't under his radar....or maybe something else is going on....that only time will tell....

Yes, to each his own.

Vansh does have his own valid points to make against Riddhima. But sadly, the makers have failed to articulately express those valid points.

Instead, the writers came up with a stupid questionnaire at the pool side...n gave stupid reasons to Vansh to hate Riddhima. Why am I not her first love? Why did she not love me during marriage? Really Vansh? Do you have partial amnesia?

This is why, some like me are not connecting with his "pain". I want to feel bad for him...but the poor writing is getting in the way.

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However, I cannot agree with it when people say both are at fault equally...or that, she "deserves" it bcoz she betrayed him, kept trusting Kabir even after marriage, etc.

In the whole Riansh fiasco...I will blame Vansh for 70% of the mess. Riddhima for the 30%.

Except in two or three cases where Riddhima crossed her line of her own accord, most of her blunders were circumstantial, triggered by either Vansh's actions or his family's. There are some other reasons too for this 70-30 opinion.

Maybe, one of these days, I'd write a separate article on it.

Originally posted by: Muskie

bold1- yes I didn't liked that Riddhu too. Lecturing about betrayal and trust, when she's doing the same (even for a good cause)

Bold 2- the track is actually good, I was really waiting for his revenge since his dialogue at their wedding night, but the reasons are really illogical

Bold3- exactly my point, wasn't the beautiful mom most trustworthy person in life, for whom he shouted on wife s lot of times. He has been loving, trusting, caring for her since long and Riddhu is just for months right???? Then why such partiality???? Kyunnn??? Janta maange jawaab?????

That's exactly what I can't digest.....if he is going to such extreme in revenge against Riddhima becz betrayal is his raw nerve then what about anupriya...... betrayal is betrayal...... I'm not asking about Kabir becz he knew he is enemy....but the matter of Anupriya is not acceptable.....and that's why most of the people are bashing Vansh.....not becz he is against Riddhu so much but becz he hasn't taken any action against anupriya and others for his betrayal.....and rest are also his family no matter what.....

I'm not against his revenge against Riddhu......but definitely against how he let go of Anupriya so easily......and makers aren't even bothered with it....

Originally posted by: amritat

Yes, to each his own.

Vansh does have his own valid points to make against Riddhima. But sadly, the makers have failed to articulately express those valid points.

Instead, the writers came up with a stupid questionnaire at the pool side...n gave stupid reasons to Vansh to hate Riddhima. Why am I not her first love? Why did she not love me during marriage? Really Vansh? Do you have partial amnesia?

This is why, some like me are not connecting with his "pain". I want to feel bad for him...but the poor writing is getting in the way.

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However, I cannot agree with it when people say both are at fault equally...or that, she "deserves" it bcoz she betrayed him, kept trusting Kabir even after marriage, etc.

In the whole Riansh fiasco...I will blame Vansh for 70% of the mess. Riddhima for the 30%.

Except in two or three cases where Riddhima crossed her line of her own accord, most of her blunders were circumstantial, triggered by either Vansh's actions or his family's. There are some other reasons too for this 70-30 opinion.

Maybe, one of these days, I'd write a separate article on it.

That's why I said we can endlessly argue for both character's mistakes.

Vansh character.....I can understand his pain.....n moreover writers are at fault for this.....they have expressed Riddhu character openly......till now nothing is hidden..... neither her intentions nor her monologues.....so viewers can relate with her becz they have seen everything when it comes to her character.....

But on other hand Vansh character was shrouded with mysteries since beginning and not once makers clarified or shown viewers his intentions or his monologues or other things......so that's why his actions aren't acceptable by many.....so I think moreover it's writers fault of developing his character poorly......

Even if they developed Vansh’s character showing Ahana as Riddhima in a press conference is so effing wrong.. if he hates her give her divorce but this is more malicious way of doing it.

I watched the epi and it was pretty good actually. The song sequence made sense for once. Can they stop now tho with the songs please give us an epi with more dialogues PLEASE 😵 Also guys why are we panicking literally the writers are saying don't listen to rumors why is everyone thinking Vansh is gonna introduce Ahana as his wife this is all I have been hearing there has been no confirmation of this lets just chill out. Wait for next weeks epi 😆 Also, one needs to hit rock bottom before trying to climb to the top. 😊