Two monkeys and a cat - a lesson. - Page 2

Originally posted by: Blackwind

Forgot to mention...your replies always put chaar chaands to her posts👍🏼

Oh yes, she always sprinkles the right amount of pepper that is needed to perfect the taste 😳 thanks @peppermint

Originally posted by: Tali_99

As always love to hear your perspective Janki and Peppermint.

Pakhi has found Sai's weak point and will use it at her will when and where she needs to outshine. Today in kitchen she noticed the interaction between Ashwini and Sai and how Sai was telling her aai to go and rest, while she took care of the breakfast. I could see the restlessness in Pakhi's eyes, as she rush out to dinning table and started applying butter to bread. She is clearly thinking Sai has taken her rightful place. Ashwini was to be her mother in law and not Sai's had Virat married her. So to her Sai is the one that doesn't belong and now she will do all she can in her power to intensify Sai's mind. Once Sai reaches a limit eventually she will be asked to leave the house or MMK will evict her from the house (is what Pakhi must be hoping).

Coming to Virat, I am at conflict. He was angry about his career being in jeopardy, hence the frustration and outbursts. But what bothered me was him not having the ability to tell Pakhi to not interfere between him and Sai.

He has asked Sai not to meddle between him and his best friend. Why did he not tell Pakhi the same about not coming between him and Sai? He seems perfectly fine when Pakhi comes and goes from his and Si's bedroom at her own accord. If we recall Sai had mentioned the first time Pakhi came by at 1 am that she didn't like that. Why cannot Pakhi respect Sai's wish. She (Pakhi) is expecting Sai to be respectful and mature, but she herself doesn't have the quality.

Going back to Virat as I mentioned before, his anger is justified, but what is not justified is how he talked about losing his most pyari cheez, the regret of his rushed decision in front of Pakhi with Sai also being in the room.

In Sai's already fragile mind she is now thinking that because of her Virat sir's life is ruined. Image the battle she is already fighting within herself. She already knows that no one besides Ashwini likes her presence at Chavan Niwas. She is already worried about getting scholarships so she can stay at the hostel and not become burden on Virat. Afterall she is 18 year old girl who has lost her aabba the only family she had ever know.

Pakhi should at least respect her father's sacrifice. Had he not stepped in and took the bullet, Virat would either be in coma or would have died. Pakhi has both parents, MMK and gang on her side and she is even doing all she can to bring Virat on her side by instigating him against Sai. How can she easily insult Sai in front of Viratz and Virat just listens. But the moment Sai says something he reminds her about tamiz?

Pakhi is working on making Sai's life more uncomfortable. She is not realizing that this will bring Sai and Virat more close. Anyway should she be be doing her sasuma no seva as that was why she stayed behind?

Sai Pakhi are play what seems to be a long game of chess.

Love your views 👍🏼

I know it is a bit too much for us to see that Virat hasn't shut PP up but honestly, it's been just one incident of the wedding night where she came across as unreasonable and left him also kind of shocked. The breakfast table today was a tell all scene. I think Virat has noticed PP and also Sai along with the others. To me it feels that he's going a bit soft on PP because he feels bad for her condition and somewhere has himself to blame. Although we have not seen him think or say something like that but he feels 'responsible' for PP's wellbeing in Samrat's absence. So he's not going to tell her anything anytime soon.

But like I said, I won't hold a grudge against him today. I can understand his state of mind for this particular episode because the last thing he'd have expected is an obnoxious complaint by Vitthal.

I don't think he's blaming Sai. He's just super mad at the situation and he has said a few things that is part of his turmoil at the moment. He has not said he regrets marrying Sai but the fact is that there has been pain in his heart due to a few hasty decisions in life. I hope we get to see a continuity of this scene because to me his dialogue of 'Gadchiroli jakar samajh aayi' baat was to do with his haste in leaving the yoga camp Without finishing his conversation or by being hasty about deciding to give away PP to Samrat. I don't think he made a hasty decision to marry Sai. That was a decision he made after a lot of thought, although under pressure... At least I see it that way. I hope there is continuity to this scene.

Originally posted by: bones123

Love this post and the time you've taken to analyse the various characters and their base emotions. It's super funny you've called out the inconsistencies with how they've portrayed the copverse :) Would have never known!

Thank you so much dear 🤗 when a post can trigger a discussion, it has done its job hasn't it. It took me a couple of hours to analyse the actions and reactions. I live in the cop-verse so I can clear a cop quiz even in my deepest slumber 😆 also, I prepare the husband's uniform with the collar tabs that the DIG is shown wearing here, almost everyday so I can't get over that blooper.

I actually skipped some of the initial table drama but can see how it could have played out the frustration he was already feeling.

While I thoroughly enjoy Sai just having zero filter and belting it out, agree that she could take some time to introspect the effect of her words and be more strategic on when she launches into them. She needs to maybe separate why she feels the way she does (it's too soon for love or even camraderie...is it that she sees it as her personal space, less Virat's and that's what's irking her most?)

Agree. It's a personal space that she shares with Virat and whatever it is, it should be between them. She hasn't yet been shown to have any attraction towards him the way he has been shown to have already but she does feel a tad bit jealous of PP, we can't deny. She needs to really tone down her relations and learn to observe before exploding

Virat doesn't currently see her as his confidante, if we have to count the days in the house, it's been just 3...that step in the relationship will come naturally. He clearly knows Pakhi for longer and I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt that he's still respectful and reliant on her opinions as a friend. He's probably not yet caught onto her toeing the line of what they had agreed on. We've been exposed to her inner thoughts not him.

Actually, he doesn't see her as his confidant because he is unsure of her reactions. Her unpredictability and outspokenness keeps him drom sharing with her. Both of them will need to work on their relationship when they realise that they want to be in it. He obviously thinks PP is more matured, especially because she is good at pulling off that act barring one incident where she lost control. It will take him some time to get over the misplaced notion

I'm excited to see how this plays out and the impact it had on the trio. I've generally found it amazing that Virat's character is calm headed and devoid of histrionics and therefore this blip is okay . He's been through immense trauma (not just this issue, but everything since Samrat wedding) as well and it probably had to manifest in some way.

So agree. We often don't pay much attention to the emotional stress that a man can feel. He's vulnerable too. He has been through a lot as well and almost nothing around him is going right. The only thing he was probably looking forward to was his duty to distract him and then it turns out that it's under threat (for the sake of the show😅) I found his reaction naturally human, especially with the nagging. Had Sai left him alone, he would have just been brooding and thinking.

Originally posted by: jankiraghav

Thank you dear 🤗 I love that we call discuss with such open minds here that even if we don't agree we respect each others views or take away something from it.

I do read your comments too and find them very enriching for perspectives 👍🏼

Totally agree with the Bold part and this aag Ka Daria is deeper because aag khud hi ke haathon Lagi hai due to unreasonable hang ups.

I actually didn't find the episode imperfect. It was hard but it was perfect. It brought out so many things. The other thing that I didn't mention but loved was the silence with which Virat observed everything at the breakfast table. Not one word but such an impactful presence.

@bold okay... now you are over-estimating me😆...by the way... forgot to mention in my post.... one thing I didn't understand was the Ann ka apmaan wala thing....Virat really did a grave mistake by throwing it away (was it done accidentally or intentionally can't really point out) whereas Ninad being the forever crappy guy ate it saying the same, though his reactions gave away his thoughts when he got to know it was Sai who cooked...were the makers trying to portray contrast between these two characters ?or am I seeing too much into it?... couldn't figure out myself..

Originally posted by: Blackwind

@bold okay... now you are over-estimating me😆...by the way... forgot to mention in my post.... one thing I didn't understand was the Ann ka apmaan wala thing....Virat really did a grave mistake by throwing it away (was it done accidentally or intentionally can't really point out) whereas Ninad being the forever crappy guy ate it saying the same, though his reactions gave away his thoughts when he got to know it was Sai who cooked...were the makers trying to portray contrast between these two characters ?or am I seeing too much into it?... couldn't figure out myself..

He pushed the plate because Sai was shoving it in his face. Am not sure he wanted to throw it to the floor but in rage we do end up doing such things... Ninad Ka Ann Ka aadar wala gyaan was 🤪 especially given that Bhavani has been known to throw food morsels in her plate and walk away as she did today as well.

Originally posted by: jankiraghav

He pushed the plate because Sai was shoving it in his face. Am not sure he wanted to throw it to the floor but in rage we do end up doing such things... Ninad Ka Ann Ka aadar wala gyaan was 🤪 especially given that Bhavani has been known to throw food morsels in her plate and walk away as she did today as well.

Atleast I am glad to know that he respects something other than Bhavani and co.😆

Janki! 🤗
As always an amazing post!

Your posts force me to think from a different perspective and love the way you analyse the situation each & every time.
Now we know why Virat thinks PP is mature. Well she’s cunning and shrewd. 😆
Coming to the Sai part, yes, you are right. This was needed. She needs to learn how to get a hold of a situation according to other person’s mood.
Until now, Virat has been guiding and poking her when she exceeds the limit ( MMK case ) but now Virat was on the other side and because of PP Sai couldn’t think straight. Poor girl!

Hope she realises how cleverly PP turned this situation in her favour.

Virat will sooner or later realise the only regret in his life is gonna be PP ko kiya hua vaada 😆

Waiting for the day he bans PP from his room 😎

Originally posted by: jankiraghav

Hello lovelies!

I might be the odd one out here today, but I LIKED the episode. It was not something we'd like to see but it has now taken us on a deep dive into the plot that's only going to thicken now. Each character had a chance today and it was the best thing --the entire ensemble of the show performed.

This is a VERY long post but I didn't have the time for multiple posts so Maafi de dena please. But would love to hear you all!

My three cents:

Breakfast fiasco: First of all, I am G.L.A.D. that they did not copy the Tamil version where Sai pushes off the idli from Virat's plate and forcefully serves upma, which he eats. I "liked" that Virat walked away from the table without eating. If you personally ask me, I would have wanted him to respect the plate and have his breakfast but I get it why he didn't. It was not about Sai or PP. It was about the bitterness that overshadowed every flavour that could have been enjoyed at the table. Right from the taunts exchanged between Bhavani-Ashwini, Ashwini-PP, PP-Sai, Ninad-Ashwini and other butt-ins. I don't think he even had the energy to start off a new argument about which of the two he would bite first -the paramparik bhajnichi thalipeeth or the exotic bread butter 🤔. I thought he absorbed the treatment being meted out to both Sai and PP and also his mother by the two teams pitted against each other. It was in bad taste and I will blame Bhavani for starting it all. Someone there needs to know when to cut off an unpleasant match of taunts. Not at a meal, at least. It wasn't a perfect scene but I liked it.

DIG warning: Just two lines - I kept my brains aside because departmental inquiries against an IPS officer cannot be set up just like this nor can he be threatened with termination. They enjoy a privilege, which non-IPS police officers do not enjoy and even suspending an IPS is a LONG process, forget termination 😆but chalo, hindi serial hai. The two actors were good. In my brain, I was TOO distracted with the collar tabs - the DIG needs to exchange his gorget patch with ACP Chavan 😎Sorry, knowing a little too much about the insignia can act as a barrier at times.

When two monkeys fight, cat takes the cake wala scene:

Ji haan, the MAIN scene which has left everyone disappointed. I liked it, not Loved but liked. Why do we expect characters to be perfect? We feel disappointed because we have an image of them and we cannot see them faltering on it. Also, as most of us are women audiences and it is a fact that daily soaps are made mainly for women (I would love to know if we have a man here amongst us), we do not like the idea of the male protagonist treating his lady unfairly. But such is life. We all falter. In our relationships, in our moments of rage and even when we are blinded by ideas that prevent us from seeing realities. Yes, I did not like Virat being so unapologetic about pushing away the meal tray. It was ann ka anadar. He was wrong. But so was Sai. Yes, I found her wrong in two ways.

When she entered the room with the tray, she heard Virat in an agitated conversation with someone over the phone and heard 'Gadchiroli' and presumed that he is speaking of her and calling the marriage a "mistake". In her mind, she assumed, "Main inki sabse badi galti hoon". This thought was actually based in her unresolved issue at the breakfast table because he left without eating a dish she had prepared. She was upset. And, today, I would not entirely refuse the fact that she is jealous. But her jealousy is not yet stemming from her wifely romantic feelings but definitely from the companionship that they share. It is not yet the jealousy of a lover but of a person who is attached to you in a way -- she does not like the comparison with the other lady that Virat makes often because as she said, she does not see any need for her to be compared or equated with someone else. And also, because she does not like him encouraging a third person --his ex-- to join their companionship - it is "hamare beech ki deal" for her. She is honest when she says that she does not mind him going around chanting his 'best friends' slogan, but it should not allow the best friend to keep peeping into Sai's private space all the time.

So, why did I find Sai wrong? Sai is the daughter of Police Inspector Kamal Joshi. She has grown up watching a passionate police officer going about his duty. She also knows Virat. She knows that he has been patient with her on occasions when she has actually been impolite and used her tongue as a razer. She knew he wasn't his self. But, she was so upset that she did not leave a chance to nag him with "Eat otherwise your best friend will arrive". And when she did arrive, the lava gushed out as it always does. Sai needs to stop being this active volcano at all times. I still saw the exchange between Sai and Virat as being one where he was really wanting her to keep quiet and give him a minute to gather himself. Sometimes, we need to be left alone for a few moments. But she started off on PP. He did not react until she nagged him about the bread butter made by PP. And like any real husband would ask his screaming wife: "Do you hear yourself? What rubbish are you talking?" But Sai could not see the anxiety in him was for some other reason. Very often, women assume that men are upset because of them. Although it did come across as that, I beg to differ: He was not upset with Sai to begin with but the complaint. I still don't think he blames Sai for it.

Coming to Virat- I actually saw where he was coming from. Sunny was the first person, who he wanted to talk to and he did. I do not condone sending the meal flying in the air and to the ground. It's not done. But we all have our moments of rage when we disrespect people or things we know we shouldn't and we regret it. For any passionate person, who worships his/her work, a charge like that would tick you off for days on end until it is resolved. For Virat, who wears his farz and jazba on his sleeve, it came as a bolt from the blue. Any (wo)/man in uniform wears his/her pride along with their uniform. It is a fact. This inquiry is questioning the pride with which he executes his duty. He is bound to be in a mess. So, I will give him a benefit of doubt despite not liking his outburst as a viewer. But I want to see the real side of him as a neutral. He is said to be someone who always bottles up his feelings. I actually liked it that Sai could enrage him so much that he is venting out. I did not like his screaming at Sai but all he was wanting of her was to keep quiet.

Ab let me bring in the least favourite -PP. No, i did not like her today also. I cannot justify her presence in that room or in the conversation but it is a significant lesson for both Sai and Virat that she is there. And more for Sai. She had no business to be in the room. "Aap nahi bhi aati toh bhi shaant ho jaate", Sai told her. Absolutely right. If PP hadn't barged in, the matter would not have escalated and Sai would have probably heard the problem first. But the way it turned out, with both Sai and Virat getting into a verbal match, the cat took the cake and emerged victorious or so she might think.

Virat shared his mind with her because at that point, the anger that made room between Sai and him had become a barrier in sharing. The only "sane and calm" person there was PP. It was not like Virat chose to tell it to her, but she was the one who wanted to know, for her own reasons. I did not find the choice of words too bad. Yes, he did say that he has learnt a lesson about how making hasty decisions can often give you pain for the rest of your life but I did not see it as being a "maine ye shaadi karke bohat badi bhool ki hai". I rather saw it as a weak moment for a man, who is so passionate about everything he does that he does not know whether his decisions made as part of the same passion are going to end up taking away that very passion from him. Its complex.

His "Sabse pyaari cheez ko apne se door kar diya" was obviously in reference to PP because he knows that he has married Sai for 'farz' and thereby broken at least a part of the promise he made to PP. I did not see it as any kind of love for PP now, but more of "leftover feelings" as @Peppermint had pointed out. It is actually good that this conversation is happening. It will also allow a one-to-one with Sai and Virat once both of them have calmed down. We know they have some unspoken armaans brewing between them through the windows of Sinhagadh ❤️😆, so it is better that this conversation takes place, no matter how hard it will be. But it is the only way to take this two steps foward.

Sai is intelligent, she must know that there are days that can be bad, which turn into worse scenarios with irrelevant taunts. Some arguments can be taken up later. She was right but often when you are right and brash, the point you are making drowns in the noise you make. Sai should see why the cat took away the cake. I really wish she exercises some control when the two of them are on their own. And, shut that damn door, please!

The stray cat, of course, is going to feel that she has now earned a Persian fur coat so she can go about flaunting it anywhere and everywhere. Can't wait for her to trip over the trial of that coat soon.

Let's eagerly wait for Chavan saheb to want Sai on the other side of Sinhagadh and go win her back.. Majja yeil 😆 (me wants Jagtap back 😔😭)

Have a fab weekend 😳

Jankiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii!!!! Ssup babe! Another amazing post by you!!!

@ bold - You're not the only one babe. Even I liked today's episode minus the dining table drama.

And Virat was justified in his outburst. His entire career is at stake now. Let's ignore the logic of the termination process here, because... come on, it's ITV. Let's take the situation at face value here. His entire career is at stake, he's on the verge of losing his job, for actually doing something noble. Who wouldn't be scared or angry?

And Sai's approach itself is quite aggressive from the beginning. Not to mention there is some kind of resentment in Virat's mind about what happened in the morning. I do agree that Sai didn't know about what happened at the police station, but if he was continuously refusing food, a simple "kya hua Virat sir?" would have done to trick. She has also lost her temper many a times and has been unfair to Virat. So if Virat is acting out, she must also try to be understanding.

And when Pakhi comes into the picture, it is Sai again who starts becoming more aggressive. I really don't like the fact that Pakhi and Virat gang up against Sai, but this time, as you said, Pakhi found a clean opening to play the caring - understanding Mary Sue to a troubled Virat. And she was the only one in the scene that asked him about what happened. So, if I were in his place, I too would prefer talking to someone who is calm and wants to listen to me. He won't see through Pakhi's pretenses so soon, at least not yet. So he would definitely talk to her.

Also, Virat is human. He might not "regret" his marriage with Sai, but that doesn't mean that he has no resentment against the way it happened. It wasn't something that he wanted. I'm quite sure that Virat doesn't mean to hurt Sai that way... but hey, Sai did get away with blaming Virat for her dad's death right? Because she was going through so much, we could excuse it. Why not extend the same feeling for Virat?

Now that all of this is out, there's nothing else left to keep in. Now that the worst has happened, it can only get better from here. I'm sure that once Virat cools down and Sai testifies against Vitthal and Jagtap, Virat will be sorry and make amends to Sai. Also, now that he has slowly started understanding Sai and also harbours some kind of feelings for her (not love yet), these words of his will definitely happen in the long run.

P.S. Me too want Jagtap back😭

Sai & Virat should start creating an individual place for themselves. Even Pakhi should but I doubt she will...… They should recall all their actions. Think about all the things others & even they said. If they think there is something others took offense about they can approach them and apologize.

Sai should know that the act of ignoring someone is a powerful weapon. Though it doesn't defend her from other people's verbal and psychological attacks it will for sure communicate that their attacks do little or no damage to her. She should learn to exclude unwanted people like Pakhi from her activities.

Lovely posts and spot on comments.

This kind of massive flare up was on the horizon. And it has to happen for Sairat to get established. Though it's painful to watch.

I watched and rewatched the first scene. I love their midnight chats❤️. He will miss her desperately if she is not in the room. Well, he needs to suffer a bit for blabbing to his friend today