Two monkeys and a cat - a lesson.

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Hello lovelies!

I might be the odd one out here today, but I LIKED the episode. It was not something we'd like to see but it has now taken us on a deep dive into the plot that's only going to thicken now. Each character had a chance today and it was the best thing --the entire ensemble of the show performed.

This is a VERY long post but I didn't have the time for multiple posts so Maafi de dena please. But would love to hear you all!


My three cents:

Breakfast fiasco: First of all, I am G.L.A.D. that they did not copy the Tamil version where Sai pushes off the idli from Virat's plate and forcefully serves upma, which he eats. I "liked" that Virat walked away from the table without eating. If you personally ask me, I would have wanted him to respect the plate and have his breakfast but I get it why he didn't. It was not about Sai or PP. It was about the bitterness that overshadowed every flavour that could have been enjoyed at the table. Right from the taunts exchanged between Bhavani-Ashwini, Ashwini-PP, PP-Sai, Ninad-Ashwini and other butt-ins. I don't think he even had the energy to start off a new argument about which of the two he would bite first -the paramparik bhajnichi thalipeeth or the exotic bread butter 🤔. I thought he absorbed the treatment being meted out to both Sai and PP and also his mother by the two teams pitted against each other. It was in bad taste and I will blame Bhavani for starting it all. Someone there needs to know when to cut off an unpleasant match of taunts. Not at a meal, at least. It wasn't a perfect scene but I liked it.

DIG warning: Just two lines - I kept my brains aside because departmental inquiries against an IPS officer cannot be set up just like this nor can he be threatened with termination. They enjoy a privilege, which non-IPS police officers do not enjoy and even suspending an IPS is a LONG process, forget termination 😆but chalo, hindi serial hai. The two actors were good. In my brain, I was TOO distracted with the collar tabs - the DIG needs to exchange his gorget patch with ACP Chavan 😎Sorry, knowing a little too much about the insignia can act as a barrier at times.

When two monkeys fight, cat takes the cake wala scene:

Ji haan, the MAIN scene which has left everyone disappointed. I liked it, not Loved but liked. Why do we expect characters to be perfect? We feel disappointed because we have an image of them and we cannot see them faltering on it. Also, as most of us are women audiences and it is a fact that daily soaps are made mainly for women (I would love to know if we have a man here amongst us), we do not like the idea of the male protagonist treating his lady unfairly. But such is life. We all falter. In our relationships, in our moments of rage and even when we are blinded by ideas that prevent us from seeing realities. Yes, I did not like Virat being so unapologetic about pushing away the meal tray. It was ann ka anadar. He was wrong. But so was Sai. Yes, I found her wrong in two ways.

When she entered the room with the tray, she heard Virat in an agitated conversation with someone over the phone and heard 'Gadchiroli' and presumed that he is speaking of her and calling the marriage a "mistake". In her mind, she assumed, "Main inki sabse badi galti hoon". This thought was actually based in her unresolved issue at the breakfast table because he left without eating a dish she had prepared. She was upset. And, today, I would not entirely refuse the fact that she is jealous. But her jealousy is not yet stemming from her wifely romantic feelings but definitely from the companionship that they share. It is not yet the jealousy of a lover but of a person who is attached to you in a way -- she does not like the comparison with the other lady that Virat makes often because as she said, she does not see any need for her to be compared or equated with someone else. And also, because she does not like him encouraging a third person --his ex-- to join their companionship - it is "hamare beech ki deal" for her. She is honest when she says that she does not mind him going around chanting his 'best friends' slogan, but it should not allow the best friend to keep peeping into Sai's private space all the time.

So, why did I find Sai wrong? Sai is the daughter of Police Inspector Kamal Joshi. She has grown up watching a passionate police officer going about his duty. She also knows Virat. She knows that he has been patient with her on occasions when she has actually been impolite and used her tongue as a razer. She knew he wasn't his self. But, she was so upset that she did not leave a chance to nag him with "Eat otherwise your best friend will arrive". And when she did arrive, the lava gushed out as it always does. Sai needs to stop being this active volcano at all times. I still saw the exchange between Sai and Virat as being one where he was really wanting her to keep quiet and give him a minute to gather himself. Sometimes, we need to be left alone for a few moments. But she started off on PP. He did not react until she nagged him about the bread butter made by PP. And like any real husband would ask his screaming wife: "Do you hear yourself? What rubbish are you talking?" But Sai could not see the anxiety in him was for some other reason. Very often, women assume that men are upset because of them. Although it did come across as that, I beg to differ: He was not upset with Sai to begin with but the complaint. I still don't think he blames Sai for it.

Coming to Virat- I actually saw where he was coming from. Sunny was the first person, who he wanted to talk to and he did. I do not condone sending the meal flying in the air and to the ground. It's not done. But we all have our moments of rage when we disrespect people or things we know we shouldn't and we regret it. For any passionate person, who worships his/her work, a charge like that would tick you off for days on end until it is resolved. For Virat, who wears his farz and jazba on his sleeve, it came as a bolt from the blue. Any (wo)/man in uniform wears his/her pride along with their uniform. It is a fact. This inquiry is questioning the pride with which he executes his duty. He is bound to be in a mess. So, I will give him a benefit of doubt despite not liking his outburst as a viewer. But I want to see the real side of him as a neutral. He is said to be someone who always bottles up his feelings. I actually liked it that Sai could enrage him so much that he is venting out. I did not like his screaming at Sai but all he was wanting of her was to keep quiet.

Ab let me bring in the least favourite -PP. No, i did not like her today also. I cannot justify her presence in that room or in the conversation but it is a significant lesson for both Sai and Virat that she is there. And more for Sai. She had no business to be in the room. "Aap nahi bhi aati toh bhi shaant ho jaate", Sai told her. Absolutely right. If PP hadn't barged in, the matter would not have escalated and Sai would have probably heard the problem first. But the way it turned out, with both Sai and Virat getting into a verbal match, the cat took the cake and emerged victorious or so she might think.

Virat shared his mind with her because at that point, the anger that made room between Sai and him had become a barrier in sharing. The only "sane and calm" person there was PP. It was not like Virat chose to tell it to her, but she was the one who wanted to know, for her own reasons. I did not find the choice of words too bad. Yes, he did say that he has learnt a lesson about how making hasty decisions can often give you pain for the rest of your life but I did not see it as being a "maine ye shaadi karke bohat badi bhool ki hai". I rather saw it as a weak moment for a man, who is so passionate about everything he does that he does not know whether his decisions made as part of the same passion are going to end up taking away that very passion from him. Its complex.

His "Sabse pyaari cheez ko apne se door kar diya" was obviously in reference to PP because he knows that he has married Sai for 'farz' and thereby broken at least a part of the promise he made to PP. I did not see it as any kind of love for PP now, but more of "leftover feelings" as @Peppermint had pointed out. It is actually good that this conversation is happening. It will also allow a one-to-one with Sai and Virat once both of them have calmed down. We know they have some unspoken armaans brewing between them through the windows of Sinhagadh ❤️😆, so it is better that this conversation takes place, no matter how hard it will be. But it is the only way to take this two steps foward.

Sai is intelligent, she must know that there are days that can be bad, which turn into worse scenarios with irrelevant taunts. Some arguments can be taken up later. She was right but often when you are right and brash, the point you are making drowns in the noise you make. Sai should see why the cat took away the cake. I really wish she exercises some control when the two of them are on their own. And, shut that damn door, please!

The stray cat, of course, is going to feel that she has now earned a Persian fur coat so she can go about flaunting it anywhere and everywhere. Can't wait for her to trip over the trial of that coat soon.

Let's eagerly wait for Chavan saheb to want Sai on the other side of Sinhagadh and go win her back.. Majja yeil 😆 (me wants Jagtap back 😔😭)


Have a fab weekend 😳

Edited by jankiraghav - 5 years ago

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Absolutely loved this post 👍🏼i really like ur perspective and u have penned it down so beautifully 👏❤️

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There is something we say in french "il faut reculer pour mieux sauter" which basically translates into something like " taking a step back for a better jump" or taking a step back for better growth.


I think their relationship is at this exact point. And i am glad that they are addressing this right now, when their relationship is not that strong. (I think we've been a bit pampered with the cutesy scene and so we are a bit disappointed at how things turned out in this episode.) Had it happened when Virat started falling for Sai, i'd have been more disappointed! Their relationship is so fragile right now and filled with cracks, that's why Pakhi is getting the opportunity to interfere. But they will come around eventually, they will understand each other eventually, they will learn to listen to the other, they will learn to resolve their conflicts by themselves, they will learn to nurture their relationship eventually. This won't happen unless there is confrontation from time to time.


And yes, Sai was right when she said he would eventually have calmed down, had Pakhi not come. I really felt like he would. But when Pakhi came, Sai was incensed (rightfully tho.) and Pakhi took the opportunity to pretend to be the calm and mature one. Virat needed an ear, and she provided that to him. This is the crack which Pakhi is using to her advantage. So, I fully agree that Sai should tone it down a bit. Virat has been very patient with her the past days, he's refrained himself from saying anything that could hurt her. However, with his career at stake, and with the catfight, he was bound to errupt.

When you've worked towards something for your entire life, and suddenly you see that dream slipping away, you are bound to question every decision you took. It will hurt Sai and their relationship, but they need it. It was going too much in the right direction, with the cute moments and the budding attraction and they need these bumps to step back and reassess. Otherwise, there would be no difference between VirKhi and SaiRat!



As always, bang on post👍🏼


Edited to add that I want Jagtap back too😭

Edited by ..Peppermint.. - 5 years ago
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janki and pepper both post were lovely.i really liked how u guys mind work

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Originally posted by: ..Peppermint..

There is something we say in french "il faut reculer pour mieux sauter" which basically translates into something like " taking a step back for a better jump" or taking a step back for better growth.


I think their relationship is at this exact point. And i am glad that they are addressing this right now, when their relationship is not that strong. (I think we've been a bit pampered with the cutesy scene and so we are a bit disappointed at how things turned out in this episode.) Had it happened when Virat started falling for Sai, i'd have been more disappointed! Their relationship is so fragile right now and filled with cracks, that's why Pakhi is getting the opportunity to interfere. But they will come around eventually, they will understand each other eventually, they will learn to listen to the other, they will learn to resolve their conflicts by themselves, they will learn to nurture their relationship eventually. This won't happen unless there is confrontation from time to time.


And yes, Sai was right when she said he would eventually have calmed down, had Pakhi not come. I really felt like he would. But when Pakhi came, Sai was incensed (rightfully tho.) and Pakhi took the opportunity to pretend to be the calm and mature one. Virat needed an ear, and she provided that to him. This is the crack which Pakhi is using to her advantage. So, I fully agree that Sai should tone it down a bit. Virat has been very patient with her the past days, he's refrained himself from saying anything that could hurt her. However, with his career at stake, and with the catfight, he was bound to errupt.

When you've worked towards something for your entire life, and suddenly you see that dream slipping away, you are bound to question every decision you took. It will hurt Sai and their relationship, but they need it. It was going too much in the right direction, with the cute moments and the budding attraction and they need these bumps to step back and reassess. Otherwise, there would be no difference between VirKhi and SaiRat!



As always, bang on post👍🏼


Edited to add that I want Jagtap back too😭


Loved your reference to the "cracks". What a beautiful way of putting it. The Chinese fill cracks with gold to make the new repaired thing precious. I guess Virat and Sai will also fill their cracks with gold -- the love that will happen. But that's a bit of a long road, for Sai especially.

Totally agree with how PP has identified these cracks to use it to her advantage 👍🏼 she knows that Sai is a bomb waiting to blast. All she has to do is to calmly set her on fire and then play the 'mature' diffuser in front of Virat. The way she used the words "you are older and mature", she was so calm and calculative in her interference as if she's actually planned to get in the way like this. She thinks it will ensure a distance between them but she doesn't know that they massage heads and make up 🤣

All said and done, I actually did not see Virat saying anything offensive to Sai although she's making those very direct comments about Virat and PP in their face. He just wanted her to shut up and didn't actually care what she was saying because he is very aware that she's just annoyed with the barging in. In fact, I thought he was also annoyed today but was too overwhelmed with the stress he has.

Edited by jankiraghav - 5 years ago
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Bang on!!👏 I was looking for your post today...though I don't reply everytime but I have read each of it😃...you have really put everything perfectly of today's imperfect episode😆...there was definitely some harsh verbal exchange between our goody-goody, cutie-cutie leads😆 which we have been shown past 3 episodes but it was needed...life is not a bed of roses...its "aag ka dariya hai doob ke jaana hai" kinda thing😆which has finally been proved...

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Originally posted by: ..Peppermint..

There is something we say in french "il faut reculer pour mieux sauter" which basically translates into something like " taking a step back for a better jump" or taking a step back for better growth.


I think their relationship is at this exact point. And i am glad that they are addressing this right now, when their relationship is not that strong. (I think we've been a bit pampered with the cutesy scene and so we are a bit disappointed at how things turned out in this episode.) Had it happened when Virat started falling for Sai, i'd have been more disappointed! Their relationship is so fragile right now and filled with cracks, that's why Pakhi is getting the opportunity to interfere. But they will come around eventually, they will understand each other eventually, they will learn to listen to the other, they will learn to resolve their conflicts by themselves, they will learn to nurture their relationship eventually. This won't happen unless there is confrontation from time to time.


And yes, Sai was right when she said he would eventually have calmed down, had Pakhi not come. I really felt like he would. But when Pakhi came, Sai was incensed (rightfully tho.) and Pakhi took the opportunity to pretend to be the calm and mature one. Virat needed an ear, and she provided that to him. This is the crack which Pakhi is using to her advantage. So, I fully agree that Sai should tone it down a bit. Virat has been very patient with her the past days, he's refrained himself from saying anything that could hurt her. However, with his career at stake, and with the catfight, he was bound to errupt.

When you've worked towards something for your entire life, and suddenly you see that dream slipping away, you are bound to question every decision you took. It will hurt Sai and their relationship, but they need it. It was going too much in the right direction, with the cute moments and the budding attraction and they need these bumps to step back and reassess. Otherwise, there would be no difference between VirKhi and SaiRat!



As always, bang on post👍🏼


Edited to add that I want Jagtap back too😭

Forgot to mention...your replies always put chaar chaands to her posts👍🏼

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As always love to hear your perspective Janki and Peppermint.


Pakhi has found Sai's weak point and will use it at her will when and where she needs to outshine. Today in kitchen she noticed the interaction between Ashwini and Sai and how Sai was telling her aai to go and rest, while she took care of the breakfast. I could see the restlessness in Pakhi's eyes, as she rush out to dinning table and started applying butter to bread. She is clearly thinking Sai has taken her rightful place. Ashwini was to be her mother in law and not Sai's had Virat married her. So to her Sai is the one that doesn't belong and now she will do all she can in her power to intensify Sai's mind. Once Sai reaches a limit eventually she will be asked to leave the house or MMK will evict her from the house (is what Pakhi must be hoping).


Coming to Virat, I am at conflict. He was angry about his career being in jeopardy, hence the frustration and outbursts. But what bothered me was him not having the ability to tell Pakhi to not interfere between him and Sai.


He has asked Sai not to meddle between him and his best friend. Why did he not tell Pakhi the same about not coming between him and Sai? He seems perfectly fine when Pakhi comes and goes from his and Si's bedroom at her own accord. If we recall Sai had mentioned the first time Pakhi came by at 1 am that she didn't like that. Why cannot Pakhi respect Sai's wish. She (Pakhi) is expecting Sai to be respectful and mature, but she herself doesn't have the quality.


Going back to Virat as I mentioned before, his anger is justified, but what is not justified is how he talked about losing his most pyari cheez, the regret of his rushed decision in front of Pakhi with Sai also being in the room.


In Sai's already fragile mind she is now thinking that because of her Virat sir's life is ruined. Image the battle she is already fighting within herself. She already knows that no one besides Ashwini likes her presence at Chavan Niwas. She is already worried about getting scholarships so she can stay at the hostel and not become burden on Virat. Afterall she is 18 year old girl who has lost her aabba the only family she had ever know.


Pakhi should at least respect her father's sacrifice. Had he not stepped in and took the bullet, Virat would either be in coma or would have died. Pakhi has both parents, MMK and gang on her side and she is even doing all she can to bring Virat on her side by instigating him against Sai. How can she easily insult Sai in front of Virat and Virat just listens. But the moment Sai says something he reminds her about tamiz?


Pakhi is working on making Sai's life more uncomfortable. She is not realizing that this will bring Sai and Virat more close. Anyway should she be be doing her sasuma ki seva as that was why she stayed behind?



Sai Pakhi are playing what seems to be a long game of chess.

Edited by Tali_99 - 5 years ago
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Love this post and the time you've taken to analyse the various characters and their base emotions. It's super funny you've called out the inconsistencies with how they've portrayed the copverse :) Would have never known!


I actually skipped some of the initial table drama but can see how it could have played out the frustration he was already feeling.


While I thoroughly enjoy Sai just having zero filter and belting it out, agree that she could take some time to introspect the effect of her words and be more strategic on when she launches into them. She needs to maybe separate why she feels the way she does (it's too soon for love or even camraderie...is it that she sees it as her personal space, less Virat's and that's what's irking her most?)


Virat doesn't currently see her as his confidante, if we have to count the days in the house, it's been just 3...that step in the relationship will come naturally. He clearly knows Pakhi for longer and I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt that he's still respectful and reliant on her opinions as a friend. He's probably not yet caught onto her toeing the line of what they had agreed on. We've been exposed to her inner thoughts not him.


I'm excited to see how this plays out and the impact it had on the trio. I've generally found it amazing that Virat's character is calm headed and devoid of histrionics and therefore this blip is okay . He's been through immense trauma (not just this issue, but everything since Samrat wedding) as well and it probably had to manifest in some way.

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Originally posted by: Blackwind

Bang on!!👏 I was looking for your post today...though I don't reply everytime but I have read each of it😃...you have really put everything perfectly of today's imperfect episode😆...there was definitely some harsh verbal exchange between our goody-goody, cutie-cutie leads😆 which we have been shown past 3 episodes but it was needed...life is not a bed of roses...its "aag ka dariya hai doob ke jaana hai" kinda thing😆which has finally been proved...


Thank you dear 🤗 I love that we call discuss with such open minds here that even if we don't agree we respect each others views or take away something from it.

I do read your comments too and find them very enriching for perspectives 👍🏼

Totally agree with the Bold part and this aag Ka Daria is deeper because aag khud hi ke haathon Lagi hai due to unreasonable hang ups.

I actually didn't find the episode imperfect. It was hard but it was perfect. It brought out so many things. The other thing that I didn't mention but loved was the silence with which Virat observed everything at the breakfast table. Not one word but such an impactful presence.

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