Re-living YRHPK journey // Episodic Discussion Thread 3 - Page 36

Originally posted by: m4manju

hehe yeah, woke up VERY late and just had lunch before it became dinner time 🤣

I went through all the posts. Nice thoughts by everyone 👍🏼 I just posted my couple of cents 😆

Damn that's so late :O and loved your nickels and dimes 😃

Originally posted by: Sumaiya27

Damn that's so late :O and loved your nickels and dimes 😃

Aww thank you Sums 🤗

Chalo kal Sunday hai I am really bhatkoing here tonight 😆

Replies inside 😛

Originally posted by: pallavi25

Bold: Didn’t Mishti learn Baba’s entire truth on her GD day? Later that day Baba was exposed and Abir comes to know his truth. The very next day he breaks up with Mishti. So Mishti hid the truth for just one day and that too at Meenu’s request. She had called Abir to tell him from Rajgarh (Pooja pointed that out) but unfortunately Baba picked up the call. So Mishti’s intention was there to tell him but she got too late. Anyway that wasn’t why Abir dumped her so it’s a moot point.

Yes mishti learnt ENTIRE baba truth on GD day but she already knew a lot of things before hand , I personally feel since it was about abir's baba , she should have involved him and taken him to rajgadh ..she went there on KC day and did get some hints , that would have kept abir prepared and this whole meenu blackmailing thing would have been avoided because abir would have already known the truth about baba and kunal and abir wouldn't have been badly manipulated by meenu , abir and mishti both would have solved it together ...I like couples who know the art of team work rather than one preferring to hide and lie and fighting and other one having no idea what one is doing , mishti had to hide and lie a lot of times to abir because of that including the false hopes she gave to him that they will separately....I didn't really like all of that ...hence iyes she didn't get dumped because of that I agree but surely her actions gave an upper hand to meenu to ruin things...hence for break up ..I make both abir and mishti equally responsible...they took decisions without any discussions with each other ! Mishti actions set the strong base for meenu and abir's actions the final nail in the coffin

Whereas Abir didn’t even tell Mishti about Meenu’s blackmail until much later when Kunal suggests on Nishmish mehendi day. After all the hurt and anguish he had already caused Mishti for 4 months!

I thought mishti had an idea about blackmail ..remember that mandir scene before going to London, her words clearly indicated she knew something on lines of meenu manipulating abir ...pallu I thought mishti will work on that area but her jealousy plan was awful ...not sure what makers wanted to do , I wanted mish to focus on her career and leave abir for time being ...that would have made more sense 😆 Yes abir was wrong , I am not taking it away from that ...but he also suffered for the same 4 months...it wasn't like he was chilling or moved on in life ...that too without a friend he could confide with....the closest he was is with kunal and sadly he cant say anything to him ...mishti still had nannu and BP BM as well ...since mishti had ppl with her ...she could manage to come out of the blues and try one more time ...the way was definitely wrong though ...

Abir stops from telling her everytime because he remembers Meenu’s threats about Kunal. So Yes, Abir dumped Mishti twice for Kunal! Which is understandable because Kunal is his first child, his responsibility!

Twice nahi ho sakta 😆 Break up ke baad there was no relationship between so dumping ka sawal hi nahi aata...

Bold/italics: Mishti also trusted Abir implicitly, more than herself as she told him. She trusted him during Mishnal courtship which is why she was so hurt because he lied and pretended to her throughout.

Both of them have lied thats what I am telling na that both are at fault ..so don't go one blaming just one ..yeh hi toh point hai 😆 Also I can say ...mishti break up with kunal happened because of naman and kunal's take on that and not because of abir writing those shayairs n all ...so moot point? 🥺🤣

When did Mishti sacrifice Abir for Baba? 😕 And she didn’t sacrifice him for KuKu wedding, she was leaving the city for her family, she never told Abir she was leaving him. Again remember she went to see him before leaving and called out after him but he didn’t hear. Would she have left him forever? If Abir went to Mumbai after her would she reject him even after KuKu wedding was done? Then she wouldn’t have returned to him at the airport or confessed her love right after KuKu wedding. She was just waiting for KuKu wedding to be over without Meenu making trouble because of her!

Sacrifice for baba nahi ...😆 I am saying she got manipulated by meenu twice ...

Ummm...well on her bus confession day ...meenu horribly threatened her to leave abir ...and than next day se she started distancing herself.from abir ....then after the condition meenu kept ...she decided to put a full stop to the relationship...at the airport she even called meenu n said I did my part now u do yours and m sure both meenu and mishti aren't stupid to think ke theek hai 2 don shaadi mein nahi jaungi phir abir se relationship resume karungi..😆 So it was a CLEAR CUT SACRIFICE..

Btw just fot the record ...I am not against mishti here ...she can do things for the family so can abir and again my only point...both commit such blunders then why blame one and give justification for other one 😆

Underline: Of course Mishti was a fool to take Nishant’s stupid advice to pretend to be his girlfriend and make Abir jealous! That whole jealousy plan was nonsensical and also kind of creepy because Nishant was her cousin too through her foster parents, I never supported her on that. But yes, Abir deserved to suffer and regret his cruelty towards her ( Pushing her away, not listening to her about Kunal spiking Nannu’s drink)

M glad we found something to agree here 👍🏼

She deserved at least one chance to say her side but Abir was blinded by fury again because of Kunal. So Abir has the right to get mad about Kunal getting hurt but Mishti cannot get mad about Nannu almost dying?

Mishti can of course get mad at kunal for nannu dying ...when did I deny haan ? 😳 Infact kuhu suggested to expose kunal then n there ...mishti should have done that if not.a police complaint...that wasn't my point ...but what I was saying is she.revealed the sensitive.birth truth in anger ...and later on realised that she committed a blunder that's why she wanted to apologise to abir haina ?

CVs got sadistic pleasure making Mishti suffer throughout the show, even after her marriage with the love of her life, she still suffered because of Meenu and Kuhu and also with Abir blaming her for MishKu fights and expecting her to always adjust and compromise!

So what point are you making ? Mujhe samajh nahi aaya? I guess this is how it works in ITV...achi khaasi FL ko they reduce to this nonsense...baaki aur kya kahun ...

I understand Abir’s psychology as well why he did that, why he was so apprehensive about Meenu trying to use MishKu fights against them, But he didn’t deal with it the right way!

Yikes !Right way is show mein kaun follow karta hai

As for Mishnal Rishta misunderstandings Abir was responsible for creating most of it! Even he admitted it and apologized to Mishti many times.

Nah he just apologied once that too for.shayari thing otherwise abir saving mish from naman yeh baat mishti ko bhi nahi pata toh apologies n all dur ki baat hai 😆 Btw galti kisi ki ho , from BP to kuhu to mishti to meenu to kuhu to kunal ...abir ne single handedly sabse maafi maang li hai show mein 😆 Like he says galti kisi ki bhi ho maafi maang ke khatam kar lo 😆

Originally posted by: m4manju

Haila, ye idhar kya garma garam charcha chal rahi hain? 😲 bole toh weekend special ? 😈*me goes to read again* 😎

U can expect dhamaka weekend when I am in the house u know 😈😆😎

Originally posted by: Onyourface

U can expect dhamaka weekend when I am in the house u know 😈😆😎

hehe good, sahi hain. But isnt't it like late midnight 3-ish in india? 😲 tum ab tak kya kar rahi ho? 🤓

Originally posted by: Sumaiya27

Thank you so much Uru 🤗

BM's obsession with making mishti's future husband her bodyguard to save her from naman was definitely OTT and I also didn't like the way she tried to convince mishti to drop the idea of courtship.

Mishti's complete blind eye to the numerous red flags was annoying or rather shocking considering how she's known to analyze all pros and cons before taking decisions

About Abir intentions behind hiding who saved mishti from naman: I think he wanted to clear kunal's image infront of mah family but I'm not sure if it was to convince them for mishnal rishta or something else

My connection with mishti and abir is different but Idk how to describe it using words. Anyway thank you for sharing your thoughts, hopefully I will be able to see things from Abir's POV more and understand the motivations behind his actions better!

Bold: I love this bit..it shows the essence of mishbir but I think mishbir have shown a lot more communication and trust than any other ITV couples. Yes, they had minor mu, have tried to sacrifice their love for family but never hated or mistrusted each other

Please don't apologize for the essays, I love reading your take on the show 😃

Thank you sumi ❤️❤️🤗 even with the contradictory views , I love discussion with the show ...n I feel there is something with abir and mishti than I just can't get myself satisfied with the discussions 😆 I guess its the same with all all of us that's why we are still kind a hanging here ..

Though after courtship track I loved BM ...she is extremely graceful and polite I thing she was pretty much balanced afte that ...and infact BP went wrong with the whole nishant thing and putting pressure on mishti and BM corrected him ...I like how Bm and BP balance each other in the show and both of them kind a save each other from taking wrong decisions in the end ...

Idk why abir called kunal and said you are responsible for the mess and now come back and settle this and accept.tnat you save mishti ...utna part mere sar ke upar se gaya and I didn't really give thought to it back then ...I mean see abir has punched naman on holi day also haina ...so already mahs knew.that he has saved mishti from naman on holi day and I am not sure what difference it would have made to them if abir told them that he saved mishti again......don't know what was there to hide 😆 and why he did it...

Bold. - I feel similar The characters are so relatable , we see ourselves in them at times... ...that's why we get mad at them and love them too 😆

Word ! Yes yes mishbir were undoubtedly better than other itv couples when it came to trust and communication 😃 Dusre couples mein bachhe ho jaate hai and they don't even know baccha kiska hai 😆 isse better the mishbir...what u said is absolutely right ...at the end they didn't have bitter feelings for each other and developed hate or revenge type emotion ..they wished good for each other at all times......!!

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Originally posted by: m4manju

hehe good, sahi hain. But isnt't it like late midnight 3-ish in india? 😲 tum ab tak kya kar rahi ho? 🤓

I had no office work today so I slept too much for the whole day ......after a long time I was absolutely free and actually a bit peaceful and relaxed so I slept too much 😆 And now I am awake and on my owl avatar 😆

Originally posted by: m4manju

Kaisi baat kar rahi hain Uru ji? If we can't put forwrd and appreciate each other's points of views then kahe ka forum? 😃

Ok to begin with, when i am rewatching the series, I am trying to watch with a clean slate, i.e. forget as much as I can what happend in future episodes. So in the current scenario, I see abir almost pushed mishnal together despite none of them being in love or anything. He still continued it. I take it writers' issue that they messed it up, they shouldn't have gone with rishta swap AND courtship idea together. That math didnt turn out good.

And now, if I want to *not clean* my slate and remember the breakup episodes or even few next ones, I do consider Abir's treatment towards mishti really horrible. The manhandling he did at the lakeside (I still can't watch that scene without flinching), the way he snatched that necklace/pendent was not forgivable. I do not endorse these manhandling acts and dont find them romantic and like someone pointed, she should have not come back after that. letting ppl walk all over her self respect. That was also not correct on her part, and trust me, i will critisize her as much that time. We need to teach girls better than that. So yeah, he and even meenu for that matter needed BIG redemption. 👍🏼

And then after marriage also, he abandoned her in the resort knowing well she had abandonment issues. God forbid, what if something really terrible had happened to her? Or are we gonna say she is a big girl she can take care of herself? People with mental stress and history like that need to be dealt with care not by invoking their fears. Same happened after PTSD too, when she was made to ammend her ways with kuhu by him. Anyway, you get the gist.

So yeah, when we will get there, we will critisize each character based on their behavior that time but for now, its mostly coming from current situation where they are in. And Abir is very much our ladla, aankho ka tara as much as mishti is so ye ussi haq se bhi aa raha hain :)

Bold. - absolutely!

I think I have said I wanted to on courtship...will not write same thing again and it's okay if you don't see it the same way fair enough!

PTSD track- abir was totally wrong from the word go , I stopped watching the show them because I was really disappointed with abir! Not because he left mishti at resort...that was wrong as much as mishti telling him that okay if you can't agree with my point.on kuhu them I am not coming and you can go and he got so frustrated and compared her with meenu and that he actually left ...mishbir didn't really have major communication on mishti's abondomnet issues or even mental issues ...I don't know if abir knew that were so deeply rooted in her psychology...he came to know all that during PTSD time I guess...thats why he became extra protective of her

I was more disappointed with abir for not handling the criminal case , mishti's ptsd in a practical way..he didn't even know what happened exactly at the crime site and was hell bent on running away to Bangalore ...were they expecting to live with a fear for the whole life that when will police come and catch them ...? I expected a lot more from an NGO owner who actually works for the upliftment and justice for underprivileged women and is actually a rich and influential person himself ...abir was an emotionally fool there ...not saying he could have allowed mishti to make her confession to police but he could have at least used those 3 months wisely...used his sources to know what happened....arranged a lawyer...hired someone professional to deal with mishti's PTSD and could have been prepared with varun beforehand...even after knowing that varun is karan's brother...he was ready to take a chance ...totally disappointing ...

promo gave a very different vibe ...

That track and surrogacy u turn totally disappointed abir for me ...! Last memories are not that great 😆

And yes I get the gist and I know u guys love both !🤗🤗

Originally posted by: m4manju

Kaisi baat kar rahi hain Uru ji? If we can't put forwrd and appreciate each other's points of views then kahe ka forum? 😃

Ok to begin with, when i am rewatching the series, I am trying to watch with a clean slate, i.e. forget as much as I can what happend in future episodes. So in the current scenario, I see abir almost pushed mishnal together despite none of them being in love or anything. He still continued it. I take it writers' issue that they messed it up, they shouldn't have gone with rishta swap AND courtship idea together. That math didnt turn out good.

And if I want to *not clean* my slate and remember the breakup episodes or even few next ones, I do consider Abir's treatment towards mishti really horrible. The manhandling he did at the lakeside (I still can't watch that scene without flinching), the way he snatched that necklace/pendent was not forgivable. I do not endorse these manhandling acts and dont find them romantic and like someone pointed, she should have not come back after that. letting ppl walk all over her self respect. That was also not correct on her part, and trust me, i will critisize her as much that time. We need to teach girls better than that. So yeah, he and even meenu for that matter needed BIG redemption. 👍🏼

And then after marriage also, he abandoned her in the resort knowing well she had abandonment issues. God forbid, what if something really terrible had happened to her? Or are we gonna say she is a big girl she can take care of herself? People with mental stress and history like that need to be dealt with care not by invoking their fears. Same happened after PTSD too, when she was made to ammend her ways with kuhu by him. Anyway, you get the gist.

So yeah, when we will get there, we will critisize each character based on their behavior that time but for now, its mostly coming from current situation where they are in. And Abir is very much our ladla, aankho ka tara as much as mishti is so ye ussi haq se bhi aa raha hain :)

Bold: Exactly! For now, for these current episodes, Abir is responsible for manipulating Mishnal courtship and giving Mishti wrong impression about Kunal.

Bold/Italics: Very well stated! Abir manhandling her at the lakeside was unacceptable! Also later pushing her away so hard so she almost fell, these are horrible acts that cannot be forgiven. Mishti should not have returned from London to try to get him back! She destroyed her self respect repeatedly to cajole him to accept he still loved her! Totally unacceptable! Even if she returned for her family, she should have kept her distance from him, made a career for herself. She should have followed that saying, “if he loves you he will come back to you, if not then he never loved you!”

Underline: Fighting with Mishti for Kuku’s sake and leaving her behind at the resort is too horrible to even debate on! That cannot be justified by any means. Also leaving her again to punish her for Kuhu’s demented demands, Abir abandoned her again! He kept on doing that inspite of knowing her emotional issues. Having suffered himself from similar fate at least he should have been more understanding of her issues!

You’re right! We will criticize Mishti too when her turn comes. Like the Nishant track and their dumb plan to make Abir jealous! For now it’s Abir who’s misleading Mishti and pushing her towards making a wrong decision in her life!

Originally posted by: pallavi25

Bold: Exactly! For now, for these current bepisodes, Abir is responsible for manipulating Mishnal courtship and giving Mishti wrong impression about Kunal.

Bold/Italics: Very well stated! Abir manhandling her at the lakeside was unacceptable! Also later pushing her away so hard so she almost fell, these are horrible acts that cannot be forgiven. Mishti should not have returned from London to try to get him back! She destroyed her self respect repeatedly to cajole him to accept he still loved her! Totally unacceptable! Even if she returned for her family, she should have kept her distance from him, made a career for herself. She should have followed that saying, “if he loves you he will come back to you, if not then he never loved you!”

Underline: Fighting with Mishti for Kuku’s sake and leaving her behind at the resort is too horrible to even debate on! That cannot be justified by any means. Also leaving her again to punish her for Kuhu’s demented demands, Abir abandoned her again! He kept on doing that inspite of knowing her emotional issues. Having suffered himself from similar fate at least he should have been more understanding of her issues!

You’re right! We will criticize Mishti too when her turn comes. Like the Nishant track and their dumb plan to make Abir jealous! For now it’s Abir who’s misleading Mishti and pushing her towards making a wrong decision in her life!

Thanks di 🤗

My thoughts exactly, on each point 👍🏼