Kangana Slams IPS Officer - Page 2

Originally posted by: Heisenberg17_

She said it's Islamisation to take away firecrackers? where, I've just re-read the article, she accused Twitter of leftist and a Islamist bias, but that's a completely different thing.

You claimed that fireworks have nothing to do with Hindu tradition because it was invented by Chinese, that is irrelevant, that would be akin to saying Buddhism has nothing to do with Chinese culture because Buddha was an Indian. Hindus have been celebrating Diwali with fireworks for a good few centuries now, so it's very much a tradition. If fireworks existed during the time of Ramayana, then they too would've used fireworks.

Fire works in festivals has became popular from 20th century. Earlier gun powder was expensive and was not easily availability. There is no record of use of fireworks in festivals by common people in history. Gun powder was mostly used during war only.

Kangana has never read any book which could give her knowledge.

I think the issue for most of those who voice an opinion on the entire firework use is environmentally related, it has nothing to do with religion, as most people enjoy a nice firework show regardless of faith. One big issue IS the fact that people use them, but very few pick up the mess, they just walk away and you wake up the next day to find streets, beaches, parks, littered with rubbish. In the USA for example they are banned in some areas, specifically the south west because it is DRY land and the huge fires set by irresponsible people create devastating fires that destroy acres and acres of land and homes, costing in the billions.

So my opinion is that "banning" something that has been a tradition in a culture for a long time is NOT good, I am not for taking even the most minute freedom from people, but fireworks should be controlled and because the world evolves people should evolve with it and put some measures in place and some rules to avoid the pollution, make people aware so they take responsibility, changing archaic practices takes a little work but the rules must be updated as times merit. Never mind the fact that air quality is so bad in some areas that adding more fumes is like a death wish with lots of color and bang!

kanganas motives are her own personal agenda, she is on another level, a low one. She does not give a rats behind about people, she is just sticking her snout into it and mucking it up by creating false hatred and friction, for pleasure and gain. How much you wanna bet, she has big plans to create her own platform, so she can control it and tell all of you what you can and cannot say/do.

A sunny morning photo in her garden courtesy of nepo sister

Originally posted by: Heisenberg17_

She said it's Islamisation to take away firecrackers? where, I've just re-read the article, she accused Twitter of leftist and a Islamist bias, but that's a completely different thing.

You claimed that fireworks have nothing to do with Hindu tradition because it was invented by Chinese, that is irrelevant, that would be akin to saying Buddhism has nothing to do with Chinese culture because Buddha was an Indian. Hindus have been celebrating Diwali with fireworks for a good few centuries now, so it's very much a tradition. If fireworks existed during the time of Ramayana, then they too would've used fireworks.

She's the one who conflated banning fireworks and Islamization. No one else.

Also made statements about distortion of Indology when someone said fireworks are not part of Hindu tradition.

Fireworks are a worldwide celebration tradition. Not especially Hindu or anything else.

Also, you're equating an actual religion to the borrowed practice of using fireworks during a festival? Lol. Ok. Yatha rajah, tatha praja.

Originally posted by: SugaAgustD

Cant someone put her behind the bars already? She has been summoned by the police twice.

Problem is, Mumbai Police want to, post her attacking them and Shiv Sena, but Madam jaati nahi naa, aur helicopter se uthake laane ke liye she ain't thumbs up nor are Mumbai police Salman Khan😆

Originally posted by: SugaAgustD

Cant someone put her behind the bars already? She has been summoned by the police twice.

Small correction! Thrice now :-)

Wasn’t her BFF Arnab claiming fireworks are not how we celebrate Diwali and only with diyas. IT cell have different memos to its participants, I guess. Facts and Kangana would be oxymoron. So don’t expect anything that is factual about fireworks or the history.

Originally posted by: colossial2015

Fire works in festivals has became popular from 20th century. Earlier gun powder was expensive and was not easily availability. There is no record of use of fireworks in festivals by common people in history. Gun powder was mostly used during war only.

Kangana has never read any book which could give her knowledge.

There is at least 400-500 years of documented record of firework use in Diwali celebrations in India, becoming more widespread during 17-18th century with rulers organising grand firework displays during Diwali.

Originally posted by: HearMeRoar

She's the one who conflated banning fireworks and Islamization. No one else.

Also made statements about distortion of Indology when someone said fireworks are not part of Hindu tradition.

Fireworks are a worldwide celebration tradition. Not especially Hindu or anything else.

Also, you're equating an actual religion to the borrowed practice of using fireworks during a festival? Lol. Ok. Yatha rajah, tatha praja.

Am I missing something here? traditions are whatever people practice today, fireworks have been used by Hindus for a few centuries now and continue to be used, ergo it has become tradition. Traditions/culture isn't something set in stone and never to be changed. Traditions evolve, they change, so that idea that 2000 years ago people didn't celebrate Diwali with fireworks is plain stupid, there's a lot of things that happened 2000 years ago that we don't do today and vice versa.

Nah, I'm following your logic, if something that was invented by one culture, can't be culturally subsumed by another culture, then that would mean Buddhism has nothing to do with the cultures of China, Japan, Thailand, as it started in India.

Originally posted by: Heisenberg17_

Am I missing something here? traditions are whatever people practice today, fireworks have been used by Hindus for a few centuries now and continue to be used, ergo it has become tradition. Traditions/culture isn't something set in stone and never to be changed. Traditions evolve, they change, so that idea that 2000 years ago people didn't celebrate Diwali with fireworks is plain stupid, there's a lot of things that happened 2000 years ago that we don't do today and vice versa.

Nah, I'm following your logic, if something that was invented by one culture, can't be culturally subsumed by another culture, then that would mean Buddhism has nothing to do with the cultures of China, Japan, Thailand, as it started in India.

Like Kangana herself, compare apples to oramge and insist they're one and the same. 😆

Fireworks are not a Hindu tradition. They were invented by the Chinese and spread worldwide. Most cultures use fireworks to celebrate special occasions. There are arguments for and against use of them. But maintaining the traditions of Hinduism is not one of them. Period.

What you're saying is akin to claiming driving cars on Diwali is a Hindu tradition because it's been done for years, and those who say no are somehow suggesting Buddhism is not Chinese tradition.

You can still continue with your argument that fire crackers are somehow the same as an entire religion, of course, which has influenced entire cultures. 😆 Bit dim to say it's the same thing, but have at it.

Originally posted by: HearMeRoar

Like Kangana herself, compare apples to oramge and insist they're one and the same. 😆

Fireworks are not a Hindu tradition. They were invented by the Chinese and spread worldwide. Most cultures use fireworks to celebrate special occasions. There are arguments for and against use of them. But maintaining the traditions of Hinduism is not one of them. Period.

What you're saying is akin to claiming driving cars on Diwali is a Hindu tradition because it's been done for years, and those who say no are somehow suggesting Buddhism is not Chinese tradition.

You can still continue with your argument that fire crackers are somehow the same as an entire religion, of course, which has influenced entire cultures. 😆 Bit dim to say it's the same thing, but have at it.

You are confused, no-one is saying fireworks are a Hindu invention, the point is, it has been used by Hindus to celebrate Diwali for a few centuries now, that in itself makes it part of tradition. It's people who make traditions, not the other way round, so if Hindus are celebrating Diwali with fireworks, and have been for many generations across India, that is now tradition.

You have a very poor understanding of logic, your argument is that a foreign invention cannot become part of tradition in another culture because of it being foreign, if we follow this logic of yours, we would have to conclude that Buddhism cannot be considered part of East-Asian culture because Buddhism is a foreign invention, it is your faulty logic that's the problem here, but yeh, you carry on making stupid strawmans. 😆