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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: Muskie

🤣🤣🤣 I'm laughing like a maniac now🤣🤣

Are I am serious😆 uski bewakoofi ka level hi kuch alag hai bandi ke paas basic comman sence hi nahin hai lagta hai.

Matlab iski harkatein aisi hain ki banda iski khopdi ko knok knok karke puche sab kuch theek thak hai na wahan 😆

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: BhataktiAtma.

Are I am serious😆 uski bewakoofi ka level hi kuch alag hai bandi ke paas basic comman sence hi nahin hai lagta hai.

Matlab iski harkatein aisi hain ki banda iski khopdi ko knok knok karke puche sab kuch theek thak hai na wahan 😆

areyyy nahi yaar a lot of times situations are responsible for her impulsive decisions😆
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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: Muskie

areyyy nahi yaar a lot of times situations are responsible for her impulsive decisions😆

That's true she isn't always unreasonable but she doesn't stop to think before jumping to conclusions.😆 but as I siad bharosa nahin hai mereko ispe🤣

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Posted: 5 years ago
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I completely agree with you dear. You don't need to be a criminal for being a grey person. Both are different things.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Thank you for this well-needed post.

What happens is people often start making up and believing in their own false theories and then raise cries when the makers show what they have planned and proceed to bash them for the false hopes they themselves raised.

Actually I would congrat them for tying up some loose threads yesterday (there were always complain that they forgot to clear stuff) and hopefully they show what happened to Sejal too.

This track was obviously planned from the beginning especially with how ambiguous they showed Neha's death to be. Tbh, that ambiguity had already made me suspicious and the fact his character staunchly believes in only killing people who have wronged his family was already enough proof that his character wouldn't be completely dark.

The character arcs are developing now.

Vansh obviously going to seek revenge via Vihaan after being misunderstood by his love. And all the points you raised are true to his character. (Yes I believe Vansh is Vihaan, lol they won't kill off a character they bothered hyping this much and yesterday's IV confirmed it was a development in Vansh's character)

Riddhima on finding the truth ,will go through guilt and then eventually try outsmarting Kabir. Also people need to understand a pawn doesn't turn into the queen in a single day, its a slow metamorphosis. Witnessing this process will be amazing. But alas, here fans cry again saying she is weak. She is the most human character in the show ,trying to make the most of her circumstances.

Whereas we now get an insight on how horrible parenting ( golddigger mom) and circumstances turned Kabir into a bitter manipulative greedy murderer who doesn't have any remorse for his deeds.

Also fans need to stop questioning why their favourite is wasting their talent doing these characters. Your favourite knew what their characters are gonna be when they were approached. Which means they saw something interesting in their character and hence chose it.

The need of the hour is patience as this is ultimately a daily soap and a lot of people lack this. And I feel its because a lot of us have binge-watched thrillers. Everything can't be revealed in a day in this scenario. Everything in the series isn't perfect beause its also an Indian soap. Also the lockdown has left people with alot of time that they end up obsessing over the series.

People should stop believing in their own false theories and the blame the makers when its proved wrong. Watch it without any sort of expectation and its really entertaining than usual ITV stuff despite being telecasted in this rubbish annoying channel.

This post is my POV so if anybody is offended by it, I can't help ya.

(End of my long rant - sorry, but your post was really valid and I couldn't resist commenting this)

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: captain_waffle

Thank you for this well-needed post.

What happens is people often start making up and believing in their own false theories and then raise cries when the makers show what they have planned and proceed to bash them for the false hopes they themselves raised.

Actually I would congrat them for tying up some loose threads yesterday (there were always complain that they forgot to clear stuff) and hopefully they show what happened to Sejal too.

This track was obviously planned from the beginning especially with how ambiguous they showed Neha's death to be. Tbh, that ambiguity had already made me suspicious and the fact his character staunchly believes in only killing people who have wronged his family was already enough proof that his character wouldn't be completely dark.

The character arcs are developing now.

Vansh obviously going to seek revenge via Vihaan after being misunderstood by his love. And all the points you raised are true to his character. (Yes I believe Vansh is Vihaan, lol they won't kill off a character they bothered hyping this much and yesterday's IV confirmed it was a development in Vansh's character)

Riddhima on finding the truth ,will go through guilt and then eventually try outsmarting Kabir. Also people need to understand a pawn doesn't turn into the queen in a single day, its a slow metamorphosis. Witnessing this process will be amazing. But alas, here fans cry again saying she is weak. She is the most human character in the show ,trying to make the most of her circumstances.

Whereas we now get an insight on how horrible parenting ( golddigger mom) and circumstances turned Kabir into a bitter manipulative greedy murderer who doesn't have any remorse for his deeds.

Also fans need to stop questioning why their favourite is wasting their talent doing these characters. Your favourite knew what their characters are gonna be when they were approached. Which means they saw something interesting in their character and hence chose it.

The need of the hour is patience as this is ultimately a daily soap and a lot of people lack this. And I feel its because a lot of us have binge-watched thrillers. Everything can't be revealed in a day in this scenario. Everything in the series isn't perfect beause its also an Indian soap. Also the lockdown has left people with alot of time that they end up obsessing over the series.

People should stop believing in their own false theories and the blame the makers when its proved wrong. Watch it without any sort of expectation and its really entertaining than usual ITV stuff despite being telecasted in this rubbish annoying channel.

This post is my POV so if anybody is offended by it, I can't help ya.

(End of my long rant - sorry, but your post was really valid and I couldn't resist commenting this)

A big hug to your post! 🤗

I understand people getting attached to certain characters. Heck, I'm attached to Vansh/Vihaan. But at the end of the day, one needs to realize and accept that this is a television, moreover an ITV show. Characters will never be presented as we want them. Scenes will never be executed as we want them. If you want to enjoy the show to its fullest, then you need to set your own expectations aside and allow yourself to process, and accept what's being given to you. The journey, and the emotions you feel while seeing these characters is what matters. Final judgments are best reserved for after the whole product has been delivered.

Character arcs for example, cannot be definitively judged upon because none of their journeys are complete. There's still so much for them to do.

Also, hell yes to the patience! This is the one thing that needs to be delivered to people in huge amounts. 😂😂😂

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: captain_waffle

Thank you for this well-needed post.

What happens is people often start making up and believing in their own false theories and then raise cries when the makers show what they have planned and proceed to bash them for the false hopes they themselves raised.

Actually I would congrat them for tying up some loose threads yesterday (there were always complain that they forgot to clear stuff) and hopefully they show what happened to Sejal too.

This track was obviously planned from the beginning especially with how ambiguous they showed Neha's death to be. Tbh, that ambiguity had already made me suspicious and the fact his character staunchly believes in only killing people who have wronged his family was already enough proof that his character wouldn't be completely dark.

The character arcs are developing now.

Vansh obviously going to seek revenge via Vihaan after being misunderstood by his love. And all the points you raised are true to his character. (Yes I believe Vansh is Vihaan, lol they won't kill off a character they bothered hyping this much and yesterday's IV confirmed it was a development in Vansh's character)

Riddhima on finding the truth ,will go through guilt and then eventually try outsmarting Kabir. Also people need to understand a pawn doesn't turn into the queen in a single day, its a slow metamorphosis. Witnessing this process will be amazing. But alas, here fans cry again saying she is weak. She is the most human character in the show ,trying to make the most of her circumstances.

Whereas we now get an insight on how horrible parenting ( golddigger mom) and circumstances turned Kabir into a bitter manipulative greedy murderer who doesn't have any remorse for his deeds.

Also fans need to stop questioning why their favourite is wasting their talent doing these characters. Your favourite knew what their characters are gonna be when they were approached. Which means they saw something interesting in their character and hence chose it.

The need of the hour is patience as this is ultimately a daily soap and a lot of people lack this. And I feel its because a lot of us have binge-watched thrillers. Everything can't be revealed in a day in this scenario. Everything in the series isn't perfect beause its also an Indian soap. Also the lockdown has left people with alot of time that they end up obsessing over the series.

People should stop believing in their own false theories and the blame the makers when its proved wrong. Watch it without any sort of expectation and its really entertaining than usual ITV stuff despite being telecasted in this rubbish annoying channel.

This post is my POV so if anybody is offended by it, I can't help ya.

(End of my long rant - sorry, but your post was really valid and I couldn't resist commenting this)

Its always not about theories & assumption, being a slightly better written character people expect more from the character 'vansh'. So disappointment comes from there. For me his being murderer or not doesn't matter to me. They can make him interesting grey character without making him psychotic killer. Last night in EDT mentioned about a character who was a quite psychotic but didn't kill a single person. When I started watching this show I was not expecting something path breaking. So don't really have the problem with the typical track. My biggest issue is the writing & execution. They're not executing tracks in a convincing way. As a viewer I've lost the connection.

About the bashing character, some people do it because they expect some good writing, some do it they are fan of other actor & some do it just for no reason.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: asmaanixx

A big hug to your post! 🤗

I understand people getting attached to certain characters. Heck, I'm attached to Vansh/Vihaan. But at the end of the day, one needs to realize and accept that this is a television, moreover an ITV show. Characters will never be presented as we want them. Scenes will never be executed as we want them. If you want to enjoy the show to its fullest, then you need to set your own expectations aside and allow yourself to process, and accept what's being given to you. The journey, and the emotions you feel while seeing these characters is what matters. Final judgments are best reserved for after the whole product has been delivered.

Character arcs for example, cannot be definitively judged upon because none of their journeys are complete. There's still so much for them to do.

Also, hell yes to the patience! This is the one thing that needs to be delivered to people in huge amounts. 😂😂😂


Gurrrrrrllll, hugs back at ya too🤗

@bold, so freaking trueeee.

I swear I needed to get this out after seeing the sheer clownery by some peeps, being all delusional and blaming makers for not proving their own theories right.

Anything happens ,bash the makers. Its a pity because the makers have alot at stake while making such stuff.

As a writer, I am sure you will agree Gur, its easier to write FFs or OSs here because you don't have to stick to a daily schedule, no monetary expenses or external influences unlike writing for a show. You can develop your characters , story and twist in a few updates and be over with it.

This is a track seems to have been planned wayyy ahead. Enjoy this before they run out of the planned tracks and go all haywire and show crap (can I plwweaseeeee site GoT as an example although it was produced in the other side of the world - what they did to my Margaery babe 😭😭😭😭😭😭)

I am enjoying the performances of all the actors and characterizations. Heck, even Anupriya Mata was better with her haughty face yesterday than her emotional scenes *can't believe I just said this*

Rather than enjoying the sequence, people are ahead in pointing out only flaws and spreading negativity. And some folks watch only to whine and Idk why they are watching stuff that doesn't give them any satisfaction or happiness 🤷🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️. If its so crap, then honestly please stop watching for your mental health.

(I wholeheartedly believe my last statement)

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Its always not about theories & assumption, being a slightly better written character people expect more from the character 'vansh'. So disappointment comes from there. For me his being murderer or not doesn't matter to me. They can make him interesting grey character without making him psychotic killer. Last night in EDT mentioned about a character who was a quite psychotic but didn't kill a single person. When I started watching this show I was not expecting something path breaking. So don't really have the problem with the typical track. My biggest issue is the writing & execution. They're not executing tracks in a convincing way. As a viewer I've lost the connection.

About the bashing character, some people do it because they expect some good writing, some do it they are fan of other actor & some do it just for no reason.

I get what you are saying. My post was meant for people who expected soo much from that character.

Well, I believe their writing is stronger than their execution tbh. The visualisation part is lacking. But then again, its better according to ITV standards.

Haha, that bashing character thing was meant for fans who only want their fav to have a strong track over other characters. Every character will have its downs and ups.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: captain_waffle

Gurrrrrrllll, hugs back at ya too🤗

@bold, so freaking trueeee.

I swear I needed to get this out after seeing the sheer clownery by some peeps, being all delusional and blaming makers for not proving their own theories right.

Anything happens ,bash the makers. Its a pity because the makers have alot at stake while making such stuff. And the fact people say they can write better stuff or twists while folks who bothered to study this craft and made multiple shows are writing this show🤡🤡🤡🤡

As a writer, I am sure you will agree Gur, its easier to write FFs or OSs here because you don't have to stick to a daily schedule, no monetary expenses or external influences unlike writing for a show. You can develop your characters , story and twist in a few updates and be over with it.

This is a track seems to have been planned wayyy ahead. Enjoy this before they run out of the planned tracks and go all haywire and show crap (can I plwweaseeeee site GoT as an example although it was produced in the other side of the world - what they did to my Margaery babe 😭😭😭😭😭😭)

I am enjoying the performances of all the actors and characterizations. Heck, even Anupriya Mata was better with her haughty face yesterday than her emotional scenes *can't believe I just said this*

Rather than enjoying the sequence, people are ahead in pointing out only flaws and spreading negativity. And some folks watch only to whine and Idk why they are watching stuff that doesn't give them any satisfaction or happiness 🤷🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️. If its so crap, then honestly please stop watching for your mental health.

(Ab last statement se mirchi lagi, toh no problem main sirf facts state kar rahi thi bas)

I have no idea what's going on in the forum, and from the looks of it, I'm better off that way. 😆

Another thing people need to realize is that there is SO much more that goes into the show than just writing out the script. The actors' capabilities, the locations that are made available to them, the editing, the light, sounds, time in which they need to shell out the final product - it all matters when it comes to making a show. One of the biggest disservice to IMMJ2 was the fact that it had to air 7 days a week. There's only so much you can show in that time in order to keep the audience gripped. Western shows have a greater advantage in the sense that they have one hour to tell their story, and they air once a week. Gives the whole cast and crew a lot more time to tighten up the story, and put out the best product.

Oh, it is SO MUCH easier to write written works like an OS, or FF. As you said, my daily income isn't dependent on it. Also, I have the freedom to manipulate the characters and make them do whatever I want without caring for TV guidelines, censorship or, the ratings. But even though I'm working in a fanfiction world, serious writers put in a lot of thought and effort into their craft, and I do see that with this show. Do they always hit their mark? No. Sometimes they miss (like they did with Riddhu falling into the suitcase), and sometimes they hit the mark (like Vansh paralyzing Riddhima). If IMMJ2 has its story planned out for a whole year, then that's freaking awesome because that's honestly a lot more than other ITV shows have going for them right now. 😆

Funny, I was thinking about GOT as well! A fantastic show that took the whole world by a storm, only to leave it disappointed at the very end. You never know where the journey will go. We may be upset with IMMJ2 now, but who knows, when it's all done, we may come away from it thinking it to be the better told stories our there.

It's much easier to whine, and complain about things than it is to appreciate, and compliment. Dunno why, but that's just how it is. Maybe frustration caused by the pandemic is bleeding in. 🤔

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