Birth of a Phoeneix - Page 2

Haan yaar they can't just kill the Vansh Rai Singhaniya like that (suicide) seriously!!!!!

He wanted kabir to think that he lost the hope to live and hence died. And the same thing happened. He thought that vansh choose to kill himself for a betrayal.

The symbols you pointed out were enough to prove that he's very much alive and Rrahul did an amazing amazing job to make us believe that he isn't vansh but vihaan

I want to know how he gonna enter as VR as there is an arrest warrant agaisnt HIM. I hope in these 13 days riddhu proved his innocence

Originally posted by: Muskie

Haan yaar they can't just kill the Vansh Rai Singhaniya like that (suicide) seriously!!!!!

He wanted kabir to think that he lost the hope to live and hence died. And the same thing happened. He thought that vansh choose to kill himself for a betrayal.

The symbols you pointed out were enough to prove that he's very much alive and Rrahul did an amazing amazing job to make us believe that he isn't vansh but vihaan

I want to know how he gonna enter as VR as there is an arrest warrant agaisnt HIM. I hope in these 13 days riddhu proved his innocence

this is so typical ... of itv story... I was expecting something different..

It would be more interesting if makers would have shown....vansh injured in fight...

ridhima escaping the place with severely injured vansh... and VR goes in comma (preplanned - pretend to escape the arrest...)

.... and secretly plans and handles every move from hospital with his helpers in house...

Originally posted by: pyaar2012

Vansh Rai Singhania took a magnum fall and when his wife and family mourned over his death and his enemies celebrate He fabricated his death and rises from the ashes.Now the question is evident that why he had to take up the avtar of Vihan,an exact opposite of Vansh.

1.THE TYPICAL SYMBOLS

- His body was not found and his face while he was being set ablazed His face was not shown.

It was exactly 13 days after he took the decision of resurrection. Ishani tried to cut the MS into pieces but Riddhima saved it. It was an evident symbol and he is ready to enter and he is very much alive.The MS is the identity of this marriage.

Enemies are in illusion of Victory

Vansh 's enemies are too over confident that they now will rule and make others fool. It is the perfect time to pounce back. He will now b identify them.also with ease and excellence.

Binocular Effect

Sometime it is necessary to view everything afar. Now it will b easier for Vansh to know his enemies and his allies as he is no more alive for them.His enemies have laxed their cover of pretence and now they will happily expose themselves.He had always designated himself as a hawk.... Hawks keep a vigilant eye on his prey,This what exactly he is doing.

Why this disguise

Fans are disappointed that his entire identity had changed.There is no.VRS in Vihan. Is this not evident? This is why he had taken the disguise!

Being a daughter of a Lawyer,i know what it means when an arrest warrent is issued. If Vansh will re appear in his real.self,he either will b killed or Kabir will put him behind the bars.He will b caught as a fugitive.So he had changed his entire identity. His voice,dressing sense and his way of potrayal.This gala change is the third face he will potray to catch his enemies whom he considered harmless or his loved one.He is now an one man army and he has now realized Fear is powerful but Charm and love are even more powerful. He has just changed his strategy. Tigers in order to catch their prey hide their body in the long grass or walk in opposition of the wind to puzzle their prey. Vansh is doing that only.

Fans need to learn the lines in between

Fans need to learn the lines in between But now they are mourning over his cravers, beard and wedding band. Well if he will not shed all his symbols of being VR how he will fight? He had changed his way not his mission.The loyal viewers and of course the smart ones will understand all his one liners specially when he talks about OTP....

and his descriptions about the each member of the family was apt. Especially he called Siya a Wifi who can catch signal easily.

Intezar ka maza tab tak aata hai jab tak sabar sath na chor de....This dialogue speaks louder and louder of he being VR. The vansh for whom family and love was priority has died.To avenge his own dismay he had returned.For that he made a sea change.It has cost him a lot and now its a pay back time...

The son has still not taken the revenge of his Mothers death and his sisters ill condition. Do u really think a man like him will let his mothers killer go off? Vansh may once forgive his own enemy but he will not forgive those who had harmed his family. Crying over why he is not wearing Vr ring and not having beard is childish. He initially was a manipulator by fear now he will manipulate by deception and charm.

In spite of feeling bad try to understand his game and enjoy the wonderful acting prowess of Rahul sudhir.Watching ur favorite actor playing two roles in a same garb is an amazing opportunity. Vansh has many layers and this is the one unique one...

Enjoy the show guyz!❤❤❤

To tell the truth I am not much hyped up about this Con-Artist Vihaan. The makers have taken a huge gamble by destroying their own USP Vansh.

Call him Phoeneix/Tiger or give him any epithets u want but if it's not Vansh then the makers have repeated the same Arohi blunder of the last season.The makers then tried many twist but ultimately had to go with Alisha as Tara.

Every point u have raised is logical forget the legal part what will Vansh achieve as Vihaan if at all the makers don't present him as hunting down his chief tormentors Anubir rather only trouble Ridzi?

Vihaan is not exhibiting any charisma which Vansh did right from the start.The character seemed cocky and full of himself.Considering the last season I don't have that much high hopes and it's purely my opinion others can have a different view.

Why Vihaan has not been presented as some sort of a Business Rival rather than as a simple Con-Artist? I always had that fear that Vansh was gonna get sidelined one day bcoz the initial promos were always about Ridhbir not Riansh.

Vansh came much later into the scene from July onwards.See the promos will get an idea about the same.

I don't know how can we now accept Vihaan opposite Ridzi or as this new Mastermind.And whose body was burnt then if it's not Vansh? How the hell did he survive the fall?

Yes Vihaan being a new character needs a fair chance but if after 2 months he remains a mere con artist then it would have been better that the Love Story should have been about Ridhbir only right from the start itself.

An Alpha male character does not deserve to be reduced to being a mere Con-Artist.Vihaan has to reach the level of Vansh now there cannot be any alternatives here.Its the makers who have raised our expectations to such a high level.

Originally posted by: masked

I’m willing to give the creators a chance and ultimately the trp will decide who this is but you makes some very good points.

In season 1 they jumped the shark and never really recovered. Only time will tell if the same thing happens here but as the saying goes “those who don’t learn from history are destined to repeat it. “ 😉

Excellent post Pyaar2012.

Cant wait for Vansh to bring law and order back to VR mansion. Can I ask...does there need to a body found for Rhddima to take control of business??? Then its assumed her husband is dead otherwise AnuBir will try and seize control of everything?

I loved your insight into 13 day of mourning ending and there being a ressurection and the MS being the symbolic strand that unites RiAnsh. I already said Rhiddima will have to die a 1000 deaths to prove her love and trust for Vansh to clear his, her name & restore family honour. Her blood on scissors to retrieve MS right from Ishani's gaze in front of Aryan shows that Rhiddima will be both bold and fearless to get her love and respect back from Vansh and to take her rightful place as bahu and biwi .

Originally posted by: pyaar2012

Vansh Rai Singhania took a magnum fall and when his wife and family mourned over his death and his enemies celebrate He fabricated his death and rises from the ashes.Now the question is evident that why he had to take up the avtar of Vihan,an exact opposite of Vansh.

1.THE TYPICAL SYMBOLS

- His body was not found and his face while he was being set ablazed His face was not shown.

It was exactly 13 days after he took the decision of resurrection. Ishani tried to cut the MS into pieces but Riddhima saved it. It was an evident symbol and he is ready to enter and he is very much alive.The MS is the identity of this marriage.

Enemies are in illusion of Victory

Vansh 's enemies are too over confident that they now will rule and make others fool. It is the perfect time to pounce back. He will now b identify them.also with ease and excellence.

Binocular Effect

Sometime it is necessary to view everything afar. Now it will b easier for Vansh to know his enemies and his allies as he is no more alive for them.His enemies have laxed their cover of pretence and now they will happily expose themselves.He had always designated himself as a hawk.... Hawks keep a vigilant eye on his prey,This what exactly he is doing.

Why this disguise

Fans are disappointed that his entire identity had changed.There is no.VRS in Vihan. Is this not evident? This is why he had taken the disguise!

Being a daughter of a Lawyer,i know what it means when an arrest warrent is issued. If Vansh will re appear in his real.self,he either will b killed or Kabir will put him behind the bars.He will b caught as a fugitive.So he had changed his entire identity. His voice,dressing sense and his way of potrayal.This gala change is the third face he will potray to catch his enemies whom he considered harmless or his loved one.He is now an one man army and he has now realized Fear is powerful but Charm and love are even more powerful. He has just changed his strategy. Tigers in order to catch their prey hide their body in the long grass or walk in opposition of the wind to puzzle their prey. Vansh is doing that only.

Fans need to learn the lines in between

Fans need to learn the lines in between But now they are mourning over his cravers, beard and wedding band. Well if he will not shed all his symbols of being VR how he will fight? He had changed his way not his mission.The loyal viewers and of course the smart ones will understand all his one liners specially when he talks about OTP....

and his descriptions about the each member of the family was apt. Especially he called Siya a Wifi who can catch signal easily.

Intezar ka maza tab tak aata hai jab tak sabar sath na chor de....This dialogue speaks louder and louder of he being VR. The vansh for whom family and love was priority has died.To avenge his own dismay he had returned.For that he made a sea change.It has cost him a lot and now its a pay back time...

The son has still not taken the revenge of his Mothers death and his sisters ill condition. Do u really think a man like him will let his mothers killer go off? Vansh may once forgive his own enemy but he will not forgive those who had harmed his family. Crying over why he is not wearing Vr ring and not having beard is childish. He initially was a manipulator by fear now he will manipulate by deception and charm.

In spite of feeling bad try to understand his game and enjoy the wonderful acting prowess of Rahul sudhir.Watching ur favorite actor playing two roles in a same garb is an amazing opportunity. Vansh has many layers and this is the one unique one...

Enjoy the show guyz!❤❤❤

Haaa...you are someone among the sensible fans..Thanx much..sometimes I hate to go Twitter..the #IshqMeinMarjawan2 tag is filled with stupid and imbecile demands like what u said...esp bashing of V’s beardless look and their fear of showing V a gareeb...I felt like banging my head somewhere...

There are only few worthy tweets to read there....I am glad u can see through things..ur post may arise many questions ...and many loops are not closed properly in phase 1..especially Ragini’s closure...but it’s the makers part to answer it..and I trust them..they ll do complete justice to this brilliance..

Actually Rahul himself make it Larger than life by his voice and that beard looked really grand on him even i am missing them but what they did was for the purpose for the story. I am still hopeful they will bring it back after some days( Fand demand/ Purpose of the story)but VR was being magnum and emotional. Kabir and Anu now needs a equally cunning head which is only possible when Vansh will wear the garb of Vihan. And i am still hopeful, The previous self of him may come back as he will enter in VR mansion soon.

Originally posted by: masked

To tell the truth I am not much hyped up about this Con-Artist Vihaan. The makers have taken a huge gamble by destroying their own USP Vansh.

Call him Phoeneix/Tiger or give him any epithets u want but if it's not Vansh then the makers have repeated the same Arohi blunder of the last season.The makers then tried many twist but ultimately had to go with Alisha as Tara.

Every point u have raised is logical forget the legal part what will Vansh achieve as Vihaan if at all the makers don't present him as hunting down his chief tormentors Anubir rather only trouble Ridzi?

Vihaan is not exhibiting any charisma which Vansh did right from the start.The character seemed cocky and full of himself.Considering the last season I don't have that much high hopes and it's purely my opinion others can have a different view.

Why Vihaan has not been presented as some sort of a Business Rival rather than as a simple Con-Artist? I always had that fear that Vansh was gonna get sidelined one day bcoz the initial promos were always about Ridhbir not Riansh.

Vansh came much later into the scene from July onwards.See the promos will get an idea about the same.

I don't know how can we now accept Vihaan opposite Ridzi or as this new Mastermind.And whose body was burnt then if it's not Vansh? How the hell did he survive the fall?

Yes Vihaan being a new character needs a fair chance but if after 2 months he remains a mere con artist then it would have been better that the Love Story should have been about Ridhbir only right from the start itself.

An Alpha male character does not deserve to be reduced to being a mere Con-Artist.Vihaan has to reach the level of Vansh now there cannot be any alternatives here.Its the makers who have raised our expectations to such a high level.

How can he start exhibit his charisma from the very first day? His character needs to b developed. And if he has taken the garb of a mere con artist it must have some implication. And if u are asking me that why he has not taken an Avtar of a buisnessman then what is the point of that fall he has taken. He wanted to mask his identity underrated totally unusual from Magnum Vansh. and this exactly what he is doing. You have to understand that its a conscious and planned move otherwise hiis Riddhima can b naive but he also needs to dupe others and his agenda is to confuse and perplex them.

We can just said what he will do.... he will definately punish Anubir and his agenda is to.perplex the whole family. Kabir will.either b perplexed that how can he survived after a magnum jump? Or he will realize that he is an imposter and will bring him home to use him for snstching the property (-Legal loop holes)again.That will b his dooms day and his downfall will start.

He survived bcoz Aangre helped him and he might have planned his setup. Many things are still kept hidden and it will open up eventually.

Originally posted by: Wynn

Excellent post Pyaar2012.

Cant wait for Vansh to bring law and order back to VR mansion. Can I ask...does there need to a body found for Rhddima to take control of business??? Then its assumed her husband is dead otherwise AnuBir will try and seize control of everything?

I loved your insight into 13 day of mourning ending and there being a ressurection and the MS being the symbolic strand that unites RiAnsh. I already said Rhiddima will have to die a 1000 deaths to prove her love and trust for Vansh to clear his, her name & restore family honour. Her blood on scissors to retrieve MS right from Ishani's gaze in front of Aryan shows that Rhiddima will be both bold and fearless to get her love and respect back from Vansh and to take her rightful place as bahu and biwi .