Values shouldn't change no matter the person - Page 3

Originally posted by: Muskie

Yes, I'm amused by riddhima's hypocrisy. Here she shouts on vansh saying tum rakshas ho haiwan ho..... And what not

But is responsible for injuring (innocent) people including siya (though that scene wasn't shown)

Gets easily manipulated by Kabir but when vansh shows care and concerns gives him full on tashan

I really really disliked the Riddhima from RiAnsh newly married days, ohhh the hypocrisy she showed towards vansh while playing with the emotions of his family including dadi🤪

I'll be very truthful here. I do enjoy a good display of 'tashan' in a couple. What irked me was the constant use of the term 'rakshas' and 'haiwan'. I also didn't like Riddhima mis-utilising Dadi's trust in her (in the initial days), though she mentally apologised for the same and I've forgiven her (though she does continue to committ the same error).

What I also don't like is the constant use of God's name as an excuse in order to reach Kabir (especially as Riddhima has been shown as a person who has immense faith in God). In a my view, you don't use people (God, Dadi), whom you claim to respect/worship. But, I also get equally frustrated with Vansh's inability to bring one issue to its logical end.

Originally posted by: Muskie

totally agree with you

But I have more points to add. It isn't totally vansh's fault or totally riddhima's fault. It's completely RiAnsh fault

1. If (IF) riddhima didn't spy on him behind his back, instigated him by saying ragini's name, accused him of being a monster vansh shouldn't have done the paralysis thing (again, not justifying😆)
2. If (IF) vansh hasn't instigated riddhu by saying I'll finish her chapter and many code(vansh) words riddhu shouldn't have done the scientific experiment (totally justifying this😆)

Call me sadist but I'm totally enjoying, them giving shocks to each other. Dono ek dusre ko kuch zyada hi underestimate karte hai😆

I completely agree to what you mentioned in the first part. I'll also say that I do like them giving shocks to each other. Just on the last line, I was thinking that apart from underestimating each other, they are both generally overconfident, sometimes cocky (read Vansh here) and generally over-estimate their own powers (and in case of Riddhima, she over-estimates Kabir's powers too).

Originally posted by: Sunshine_nino

Valid points stated👍🏼

Both are extreme characters... Both would go to any extent to do what they feel right.

I am not at all surprised since the last few episodes about whatever is happening. Both are equally at fault, mistrusting each other and ending up hurting each other.

Vansh after watching the car-trunk footage dint see left or right, dint even ask her about what actually happened and immediately decided that She was betraying him.

Ridhhima too made her own assumptions based on half-truth and decided that he was a monster and that she fell for the wrong person.

Neither confessed their secrets to each other.

And then, BAAM!! Vansh confirmed her worst suspicions with his behavior by numbing her. He knowingly provoked her by challenging her. He is making her to believe that he is gonna kill Ragini with his twisted mind games. He is only proving himself wrong with all these acts. He is seemingly stoping her and protecting his wife from something dangerous but using a wrong path.

Ridhhima too dint chose to analyse things for a second and assumed that her husband is gonna murder an innocent girl and hence took Kabir's help, the person she thinks to be an honest police officer. People might be annoyed with today's scene where Ridhhima was hallucinating Vansh and Kabir.....but in my honest opinion, the scene clearly showed her dilemma of chosing between duty and love. Any normal person in her place would have done what she did today. According to her she saved Ragini and at the same time, prevented her husband from committing a crime.

And now if suppose anything happens to Ragini, both would be equally responsible for that.

Both are equally losing each other in the name of secrets, mission and games.

Thank you so much for your reply.

@Bold: I felt that they had both given each other one chance to justify and once the other failed to grab the occasion, the offer was taken off the table. I keep wondering where is the faith Vansh/Riddhima in the person you claim to love? But, then I realize, where there is faith you don't need justifications, actually. You completely trust your soulmate. It makes me wonder why Riddhima completely trusts Kabir? What has Kabir really done to earn that kind of unwavering trust?

Originally posted by: vallu123

What a lovely well thought sensible post...thanks...I totally agree with every word you say...it is so true sometimes female characters get a pass from audience...

All characters should be judged on same grounds...

Thank you so much for your reply. Also, thanks for the appreciation.

Even male characters have sometimes got a pass from audiences (especially, if they are drool-worthy).

I've tried to ignore a lot of RiAnsh's actions because I enjoy RraHel's onscreen chemistry, I guess.

But, you did make me think on a different tangent actually. We audience know Riddhima is essentially a good human being (though she was sent by the villain of the story). But, does Vansh really know that? If it was any other spy (say a negative character like the lady vamps of other serials), wouldn't Vansh have shown the same mistrust (even after marrying the girl and God knows why he did that). Today, while watching the episode I kept saying "Now Vansh, why couldn't you have told Riddhima the truth earlier?" But, I believe maybe he couldn't. He hasn't really confided in most of his family members (maybe including Dadi and Siya) whom he intrinsically trusts. What if he trusted on the lady whom he'd come to love and then she turned out to be the betrayer (Ragini's betrayal maybe taught him not to trust his love even). [What if Riddhima was really a negative character, we would have wished that Vansh didn't trust her].

Also, I've come to realize that even if he'd told Riddhima the truth, Riddhima (propagated and manipulated by Kabir) could have found another reason to mistrust Vansh.

but, at the cost of being repetitive, I'll again say that all the above-mentioned still doesn't neutralize my one primary grudge against Vansh - why the heck does the guy not investigate anything further?

All right thought I wouldn't say this but it seems there are tough times both for the Mastermind and the Spy.So Ragini's truth is almost out today considering the episode that happened today.

Get ready guys bcoz its gonna be a long ride oops long post I mean-

Kabir sent Ridzi as his agent on a mission to expose VR's misdeeds & sent that Mafia to jail for his criminal operations but the scene shifted to Ragini's whereabouts & from there the story continued to revolve around the same.

Vansh being a cold-hearted Mafia scarred by past betrayals & tried every trick in the book to expose Ridzi's spying & almost exposed it but either due to Ridzi's timely brainwave or Kabir's intervention the exposure never took place.So Ridzi was safe there for the time being inspite of being in the Lion's den.Kabir frustrated by VR's continuous spying devised a plan to almost kill Ridzi using his evil mother Anu as the cover almost shot Ridzi using his Magnum Sniper Rifle which almost cost her life.

This above mentioned incident did bring them closer but before that bits & pieces connected to Ragini's past like her diary or her photos though they were destroyed was somehow already seen & noted by Ridzi's memory.Ragini's diary mentioned of Vansh being an obsessive lover so its proved that VR did love Ragini more than his life & while Ragini was perhaps planted by Anu to steal VR's inheritance that plan got failed & Ragini also realized her love for him as was seen in the flashback today but it was too late.Vansh figured out her gold-digger motives but could not find the brain behind her that is Kabir & Anupriya.I believe that it was Anu who killed VR's mother Uma & who knows perhaps his father too unless they come back miraculously.

Ridzi also seeing VR's care started to love him but her spying nature & bound by Kabir's duty she again started suspecting Vansh whisking Ragini to a hell known as Kabira's den.It also proves 3 things-

1-Vansh did threaten her with a gun but did not fire any bullet from that gun.

2-Aryan was present on the crime scene with a gun too but he was doing Video Recording through his video camera.Unfortunately for him & fortunately for Vansh Aryan lost that chip which contained that footage & though it was retrieved by Ridzi & she tried to burn it she was unsuccessful & Aryan reitrieved the same which Anu is now searching.

3-So it was Anu who sent Ragini to her comatose state & Vansh was indeed taking care of her so at least that proves that Ragini was not treated like a mental asylum patient but that Chip could prove to be a vital evidence in nailing the Kabir/Anu duo.Bcoz Ridzi has seen only half-footage not the full video.

That chip could contain some visual proof regarding Anu shooting Ragini.

Kabir's surname is mentioned as Sharma on wiki so probably Anu's husband name was Mr.Sharma.While Kabir is her real illegitimate son both Vansh and Ishani are her step-children.

Vansh has been twice unlucky in love whether it came to Ridzi or Ragini.Both betrayed her one for the money while the other for her spying. But Vansh himself due to his stubborn nature was always economical with the truth.

Saw the SBS segment it seems big revelations are on the anvil.Hate to say this but I see Kabir taking the mantle of Mastermind from Vansh now.As I had mentioned before also both the Queen and the Mafia have to trust each other specially the Mafia has to take that extra step.

It could happen though we Riansh fans may not want it it's highly probable that Kabir takes his seat as the King of VR Mansion finally with Anu/Aryan joining him & Riddhu too being forcefully married to Kabir sending Vansh to jail if not to his doom.

Riddhu on the other hand would leave a sad life with that manipulator Kabir bcoz the initial promos were always about Ridhbir & not Riansh if at all it takes place in the form of a major leap now.

Vansh might lose his property & Queen both to that looser Kabir sorry winner bcoz Kabir like it or not seems to be the clear winner here now.

Some or perhaps most of them will go after hammer & tongs at Ridzi now like I have seen in the earlier post but we all always tend to forget one thing that the serial's name is Ishq Mein Marjawan.

Unpredicatability has always been the hallmark of this serial.

Now don't expect me to give a good-conduct Certificate to Vansh now bcoz always remember he's the Mafia & he has the capacity to reverse the game any moment if he starts to think a bit more clearly like his earlier avatar.Over the number of episodes Vansh has mellowed down softened by Ridzi's love.Now i don't want Vansh to go to jail here but I don't see him being this weak also now.

A wounded Lion is more dangerous than a softened Mafia never forget that.

I will continue the same on the Other Post since this is quite a long one.

I don't think Ragini's fiasco is entirely over now or she was a do-gooder as portrayed recently.In the earlier season characters used to change their personality at the drop of a hat & so I see Ragini turning negative too obviously it can or cannot have any logical basis.

Also we all forget that this is a thriller series & Vansh/Kabir or Ridzi are all either pawns or players in this dangerous game of life & death.Do u guys really think that all this Ragini hoopla happened only for VR's Mafia property? Nope/Naaah.

Remember VR's takia Kalaam- Interesting Very Interesting.That's what the game has become now.Is VR really good as its being portrayed now? If he was this good & not a criminal what made him kill Neha or is it bcoz Neha was a cop? Sathe got murdered while trying to send Ragini's file through MMS on the phone to Ridzi & Vansh was present on the crime scene-a mere coincidence?

Kabir is a snake/a backstabber & corrupt CBI agent whose only motive is to progress in life at whatever the cost aided by that evil lady Anu but is it only about VR's wealth? What if Ridzi coming into either Vansh or Kabir's life was not a mere coincidence but its happened either by divine intervention or should I say its the brainchild of Kabir & Anu both?

Arohi was not a orphan yet her past was connected to Deep.Ridzi might be an orphan but I think her past is deeply connected both with Vansh & Kabir.Ridzi coming into Kabir's life could not be just a master-plan of Kabir.I bet either Anu or Kabir already know about Ridzi's past if not Vansh.

Why do I feel that Kabir/Vansh or Ridzi are gonna get more trapped interconnected in a tantalizing web of lies/deceit & further damning revelations? Is VR's mother really dead or she's being kept alive at a secret location by Kabir or Anu? This lady Anu too is cunning & her mentai-level perfectly matches with her evil son Kabir.

How is Ridzi's parents connected in all this? Were they really woking for the Mafia & got killed by either Anu or Mafia himself(let's say VR's father)? Did Uma leave Vansh due to Anu's evil schemes causing divide between her & VR's father or did she leave on her own? What is the guarantee that Uma herself is not an evil lady like Anupriya?

Vansh is a Mafia but is the Mafia a really good-hearted Mafia though he might feel hidden love for Ridzi now.He could make or design devious schemes blinded by the lure of wealth & power.Don't judge the Mafia only from one side.

Both Kabir & Vansh are 2 sides of the same coin.I still don't trust KAVA bcoz I know that its gonna be a long tiring game specially for Ridzi unless her brain starts thinking independently.