BIGG BOSS TAMIL Season 4 discussion - week 3 - Thread 2 - Page 22

Originally posted by: silverfox

@bold : I cannot agree to this. Whether others behave or not, every individual will behave based on their brought up. For some people how much angry they are, they cannot speak disrespectful to their elders like vada, poda.. how many of us would have called our appa vada , how much ever they would have scolded us ?

We posted at the same time. That is my view as well .

Finished watching episode .. like honeyarjun said subtle hints were given to the contestants , it’s up to them to pick it from them ..

Few highs for me :

- kamal calling out on all HM’s for following herd mentality and jumping on Suresh

- kamal calling out on Archana for being dominant

- probing on Sanam - Suresh issue . I think he was fair there, first warned Suresh for his violent behavior .. but he also called out on Sanam for disrespectful words

Few lows for me :

- shivani was given a free pass. She should have also been called out for not participating in anything

- too much of buttering of Rio both by Archana and KH .

- aajeedh edhukku BB vandhannu avankkum puriyala namakkum puriyala .. oru confusion laye suthikittu irukaan

- as usual KH proved that he does not like bold and independent women by his constant putting down of Archana

BB has skyrocketed Bala’s confidence by saving him first , innum ennavellam panna porano ..

Originally posted by: krithika2012

Thatha didnt hit sanam knowing it was sanam. Thatha shouldnt have hit ramya/nisha/sanam if it is against rules of this devil task. even more should know better and refrain where it can physically harm others.

But Sanam and archana and everyone else acted as if Thatha did it out of grudge against sanam.(including bala).

that is not the case. Thatha does dislike sanam. But as even we can see he didnt know who he was hitting.

Thatha had to apologise for this, he has done this.even bb need to analyze if it crosses their limits.

But what Sanam did was grudge. She agreed. btw this grudge is only natural considering how thatha was with her before. it is very natural.

Kamal did diss domestic violence and clearly covered his ground on that.

Sanam gamewise has played very well for past 2 days. (a chameleon so is bala but this is bb house it is fun to see them play this well).

Agree with everything 👍🏼.

Have to agree , I liked Sanam’s reasoning for the tick, cross game as well. She is playing well. She has to listen to others before opening her mouth. Her dragging speech and voice irritates both contestants as well as audience. Other than that she has the potential to go further in the game. Even KH said 9do something to be visible even if it is negative’ to show case dolls 😉.

Originally posted by: Honeyarjun

Sanam spoke about Balaji first and then she mentioned Suresh and spoke about him without respect. Please see that video from 3:45 to 8.45.

I absolutely hate young people talking to elders without respect no matter what. Yes , Suresh is at fault for calling Sanam all those things u mentioned. Atleast he said those things on her face (either for the task or afterwards). She called him thimingalam and other things behind his back. Whatever happened, you can not call one elder person vada poda in real life or in national TV. I think it depends upon your personal nature, I am from Coimbatore where giving respect to elders is a big thing. I am also a parent so That’s why I am agitated to see that behaviour of Sanam.
Yes, Velmurugan spoke abt another incident or they talked more which wasn’t shown to us. They don’t show everything that happens inside the house to us. They cut short all 24 hr happenings to one hour and show only only important/spicy stuff. KH also doesnt see everything, sees only the parts which is shown to him by BB team. That’s why he didn’t correct Velmurugan.

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Originally posted by: silverfox

Finished watching episode .. like honeyarjun said subtle hints were given to the contestants , it’s up to them to pick it from them ..

Few highs for me :

- kamal calling out on all HM’s for following herd mentality and jumping on Suresh

- kamal calling out on Archana for being dominant

- probing on Sanam - Suresh issue . I think he was fair there, first warned Suresh for his violent behavior .. but he also called out on Sanam for disrespectful words

Few lows for me :

- shivani was given a free pass. She should have also been called out for not participating in anything

- too much of buttering of Rio both by Archana and KH .

- aajeedh edhukku BB vandhannu avankkum puriyala namakkum puriyala .. oru confusion laye suthikittu irukaan

- as usual KH proved that he does not like bold and independent women by his constant putting down of Archana

BB has skyrocketed Bala’s confidence by saving him first , innum ennavellam panna porano ..

Precise summary and Analysis 👍🏼. Well said 👏.

Originally posted by: Honeyarjun

Sanam spoke about Balaji first and then she mentioned Suresh and spoke about him without respect. Please see that video from 3:45 to 8.45.

I absolutely hate young people talking to elders without respect no matter what. Yes , Suresh is at fault for calling Sanam all those things u mentioned. Atleast he said those things on her face (either for the task or afterwards). She called him thimingalam and other things behind his back. Whatever happened, you can not call one elder person vada poda in real life or in national TV. I think it depends upon your personal nature, I am from Coimbatore where giving respect to elders is a big thing. I am also a parent so That’s why I am agitated to see that behaviour of Sanam.
Yes, Velmurugan spoke abt another incident or they talked more which wasn’t shown to us. They don’t show everything that happens inside the house to us. They cut short all 24 hr happenings to one hour and show only only important/spicy stuff. KH also doesnt see everything, sees only the parts which is shown to him by BB team. That’s why he didn’t correct Velmurugan.

Again, I have to disagree about the scene. She tells about Balaji threatening her first, and said she can ask "nee yaaruda enna merattu" but won't. Then she talks about Suresh, but still refers to him as "sir" and "avanga" throughout the conversation. She says she could easily ask "ennada aal aalukku vanthu merattitu poreenga" but won't. In my view it was a generic statement she says she could say, but she still doesn't call him anything without respect there.

If it was a scene from a different 24 hours, then I doubt even KH would have seen it. He wouldn't have spoken about anything that wasn't aired at all on the show, unless he was showing a kurumpadam. I think Vel just added some masala in the confusion by saying she said she will say this if this happens, and Kamal went with the flow. Other that after the incident happened only Vel and Sanam were talking about how she said respecting his age she tried not to flare up all this while but then now lost control.

I come from a culture where we refer to everyone as "avanga" "ivanga" no matter if they are elder or younger (so I relate to what Bala said too). But doesn't mean no one would angry at any point in their life, and certainly there are unruly elders too. Suresh onnum avanga appa kidayaathu for her to think of him like one and equate similarly.

This incident again proves Kamal has a grudge against women. In previous seasons he made fun of Trigger Shakthi for being angry Oviya called him as "nee", "vaa", "po". Even now he didn’t make Bala apologise, but only made Sanam do so.

Very much disappointed with KH handling suresh-sanam issue . Suresh is being protected . Othigai/rehearsal is such a wrong word to use in this situation . It gives wrong connotations to sanam’s accusation . Physical violence by on one adult against another one is wrong period . Repercussions faced by abuser is up to receiver’s mindset . Nope Sanam didn’t rehearse . If that is the case VTV would have shown kurumpadam. Secondly suresh remarks was very bad . No men in my family uses words like vakundhuduven . I won’t support suresh anymore since he has blessings of channel to do whatever he wants to generate trp . If VTV could show suresh crying why do they have to edit Sanam apologizing . Because they don’t want to show suresh accepting his fault . KH cannot call out on his old friend in this case then I have no hope of him being a politician . KH indirectly did victim shaming .

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All other contestants got hint . Ajeedh seems to have no understanding of what Sanam said . Seriously the guy needs to go

Gaby touching bala’s hands while speaking not looking good from any angle.

anitha-shivani or anitha-gaby fight ready set go

somkku next bb season kulla game purincha periya vishayam

all contestants got very useful clues like anitha being called out by KH subtly

Archana for acting as host

everything looked good . I hope no women is in spot of Sanam . Her view about her getting 15th spot is spot on comparing her to vel . I hope she becomes captain next week . I want her to stay longer . That girls deserves some success in her life

Originally posted by: silverfox

@bold : I cannot agree to this. Whether others behave or not, every individual will behave based on their brought up. For some people how much angry they are, they cannot speak disrespectful to their elders like vada, poda.. how many of us would have called our appa vada , how much ever they would have scolded us ?

This is wrong comparison . Justifying abuse using age is unfair to totally wrong . Respect needs to be earned .

Originally posted by: Honeyarjun

Sanam spoke about Balaji first and then she mentioned Suresh and spoke about him without respect. Please see that video from 3:45 to 8.45.

I absolutely hate young people talking to elders without respect no matter what. Yes , Suresh is at fault for calling Sanam all those things u mentioned. Atleast he said those things on her face (either for the task or afterwards). She called him thimingalam and other things behind his back. Whatever happened, you can not call one elder person vada poda in real life or in national TV. I think it depends upon your personal nature, I am from Coimbatore where giving respect to elders is a big thing. I am also a parent so That’s why I am agitated to see that behaviour of Sanam.
Yes, Velmurugan spoke abt another incident or they talked more which wasn’t shown to us. They don’t show everything that happens inside the house to us. They cut short all 24 hr happenings to one hour and show only only important/spicy stuff. KH also doesnt see everything, sees only the parts which is shown to him by BB team. That’s why he didn’t correct Velmurugan.

This is such a dangerous statement .

Originally posted by: llptch

Again, I have to disagree about the scene. She tells about Balaji threatening her first, and said she can ask "nee yaaruda enna merattu" but won't. Then she talks about Suresh, but still refers to him as "sir" and "avanga" throughout the conversation. She says she could easily ask "ennada aal aalukku vanthu merattitu poreenga" but won't. In my view it was a generic statement she says she could say, but she still doesn't call him anything without respect there.

If it was a scene from a different 24 hours, then I doubt even KH would have seen it. He wouldn't have spoken about anything that wasn't aired at all on the show, unless he was showing a kurumpadam. I think Vel just added some masala in the confusion by saying she said she will say this if this happens, and Kamal went with the flow. Other that after the incident happened only Vel and Sanam were talking about how she said respecting his age she tried not to flare up all this while but then now lost control.

I come from a culture where we refer to everyone as "avanga" "ivanga" no matter if they are elder or younger (so I relate to what Bala said too). But doesn't mean no one would angry at any point in their life, and certainly there are unruly elders too. Suresh onnum avanga appa kidayaathu for her to think of him like one and equate similarly.

This incident again proves Kamal has a grudge against women. In previous seasons he made fun of Trigger Shakthi for being angry Oviya called him as "nee", "vaa", "po". Even now he didn’t make Bala apologise, but only made Sanam do so.

I don’t want to fight or argue with you but KH said To Sanam , when U were talking to vel , vayasukaga pakarennu sonna engithathai ezhandu veteergal. Like u said , she said that in her conversation but didn’t follow it. That is what KH pointed out and I support his stand on that . He pinpointed Balaji so many times for talking like that to Suresh in today’s episode . He wasnt partial to Sanam alone. In fact Balaji didn’t call Suresh without respect , he said ungaluku moolai kettu pocha.

Sorry, Your view is different from mine. I am answering since u quoted me . I am moving on from this topic.