Does bani know veer?

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Posted: 5 years ago
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My answer- A BIG NO

Am I disappointed- Again a BIG NO

Here let me put some unpleasent memories bani had of him( strictly bani pov). Ppl here mostly remember pleasent memories only which is justified also bcoz u knew veer is good. But not bani

From the start she is shouting her lungs out that i hate veeranshu singhania.

Here ppl are asking is she forgot abt meera-daksh incident. He said if girl said NO then take that and go, dont disturb her again. But when he exactly gave respect to bani's NO to him. See i dont want to quote this at all. But the continuous comments kinda made me do this. Ppl including me are loving VAni. But lets remember every moment of VAni not the only ones where u felt extremely soft for veer.

During that sangeet day he forcefully back hugged her and made scene in front of everyone. Are you ppl really trying to justify this act juz bcoz u are loving him. Please Put urself in bani's place. I only saw one post in this IF for this action of him towards bani. In that thread too lot of you defended him saying he is not a human so there is no need for him to follow human morale. But in daksh case u ppl are applauding for him bcoz he gave lines on human morale😆

Next that forced marriage. Okay lets give it a free pass since she herself chose it.

Next grahpravesh. Even after her declining and continuously SHOUTING to LET HER GO veer carried her infront of his brothers.

Then in that same scene he asked her to change dress in his own way that is to remove the dress and after a pause he gave the other dress and said change it

Next he removing his t-shirt and coming extremely close to her. I personally cringed at that scene.

And the swimming pool scene where he dumped her. We were very soft towards eer bcoz of that fbs seq but lets juz accept that he showed himself like he will truly hurt bani. So defo bani will think of him as bad person only.

And there are more scenes which i can quote but yeah what i'm trying to say is, here ppl are enjoying VAni only from Veer's pov. No one is actually think from Bani's pov. She already made clear she doesnt care abt veer or his family. So why would she analyse each and every action of veer or fake veer.

Only when her beliefs get cracked she might able to see the other side of the coin. Till now she didnt get anything solid which might question her beliefs. Veer was also not helping with his contant main villain dialogue. Only in last week sat epi we had veer speaking something different to bani. But unfortunately we dont have any continuation for that.

Bani has long way to go to feel for veer. She has this passion towards veer which she herself is not aware of. Then how can you expect her to compare veer and fake veer.

This post is not to hurt anyone's feelings. Forgive me if i hurted any of your feelings.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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i really like the way you framed this because you’re right, i think personally i keep seeing it from his perspective but then i’ll once in a while see it from hers and understand but for some reason it’s so hard to side with her even though realistically she is to a certain extent right in her perspective.


i guess the sindoor and mangalsutra scene changed things a little where we got even more for veer and less for bani, perhaps its her love for jay and blind trust that annoys us and we want to just see her be with veer.


it’s hard to grasp her pov because we know so much about veer’s pov but i agree she is right in her place, as a viewer though it’s unfortunate because i want my vani scenes đŸ˜©

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Veer is a better version of Shakura yes but it's not like he hasn't done certain things Shakara hasn't done either. That forced dance and romance at the mehendi/Sangeet said it all. Veer made a whole tamasha at Noor nikah. He is the playboy type which Bani know about because she mentioned it when she went to the party to look for him. I also didn't like when he asks her to remove her clothes during the wedding night either. He is not forceful and lusty like Sakaura, but he was no better there either.


Bani has a long way to go to understand Veer, Right now the love is one-sided from Veer side.

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I completely agree with you. I love VaNi because there is just so much passion in their relationship unlike in the previous jodis as those love stories are more of a sweet nature. We also forget the 10,000 year fact. For me, Nageshwari was potrayed as very strong yet naive and soft hearted. When Aakesh was praising her and she didnt know his identity instead of been taken back at his unabashedness she innocently answered that she doesn't know how she looks. Also, when Aakesh apologized and acted as being injured she being naively good natured just let him enter the temple and Aakesh brutally murdered her lover and her clan members infront of her. She had to wait for 10,000 divine years ( so several yug's not just 10,000 plain years) to reunite with her love because of this. Also, Bani never got to see Veer's good traits. As viewers we know his good traits as we see him when he is alone and can hear his thoughts but Bani can't. Whenever she saw him, he is up to something notorious. Most importantly she also remembers the entire past where her naviety costed her so much so naturally she will be very cautious and will have presumptions around him. Eventhough Veer is being gentle with her overall, she might think all of this might also be ploy of his just like the past as he is the reincarnation of Aakesh. Also, unlike Veer Bani knows that Veer is a cheel who is a natural enemy of a snake so Bani being a shape shifting snake will also have those natural animalistic instincts kick in around him.

Saying that, I know all of us including me feel frustrated seeing her unwavering trust towards Jai as she is described as the most power being her clan. But, I have a little faith in writers seeing there work in naagin 5 until now, I feel like our wait will be worth it. All in all, I am genuienly enjoying Naagin 5!! I hope the graph keeps on escalating for this show. Happy Dusshera/Navaratri y'all!! stay safe!!

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: Gayathri_10

My answer- A BIG NO

Am I disappointed- Again a BIG NO

You are really strong bcoz being a Vani fan I got disappointed a bit.

Here let me put some unpleasent memories bani had of him( strictly bani pov). Ppl here mostly remember pleasent memories only which is justified also bcoz u knew veer is good. But not bani

See in Vani its mostly Veer who is investing his feelings and emotions till now so most of the Vani fans think for Veer.

Both Vani are flawed characters that made their Jodi epic. Bcoz both are imperfect but they are perfect for each other.

From the start she is shouting her lungs out that i hate veeranshu singhania.

Here ppl are asking is she forgot abt meera-daksh incident. He said if girl said NO then take that and go, dont disturb her again. But when he exactly gave respect to bani's NO to him. See i dont want to quote this at all. But the continuous comments kinda made me do this. Ppl including me are loving VAni. But lets remember every moment of VAni not the only ones where u felt extremely soft for veer.

During that sangeet day he forcefully back hugged her and made scene in front of everyone. Are you ppl really trying to justify this act juz bcoz u are loving him. Please Put urself in bani's place. I only saw one post in this IF for this action of him towards bani. In that thread too lot of you defended him saying he is not a human so there is no need for him to follow human morale. But in daksh case u ppl are applauding for him bcoz he gave lines on human morale😆

That was the only Vani scene were veer forced her and that was totally wrong.

Next that forced marriage. Okay lets give it a free pass since she herself chose it.

For me that marriage was not forced.

Next grahpravesh. Even after her declining and continuously SHOUTING to LET HER GO veer carried her infront of his brothers.

At that time Veer was in different state of mind. He married her to tortured her and made her life hell but he never did that.

Then in that same scene he asked her to change dress in his own way that is to remove the dress and after a pause he gave the other dress and said change it

Next he removing his t-shirt and coming extremely close to her. I personally cringed at that scene.

It can be morally wrong but veer did not touch her. He said it in flirty Mood.

And the swimming pool scene where he dumped her. We were very soft towards eer bcoz of that fbs seq but lets juz accept that he showed himself like he will truly hurt bani. So defo bani will think of him as bad person only.

Again I would say at that time veer considered her as his brother's murderer. Bani ko laga k veer ny jai ko maraa hai tu bani veer ko hurt karney k liye jo karey wo sahi par agar veer apny bhai k qatal ko kuch kahy tu ghalat. Even though he just said to her that he hates her but he never hurt her.

And there are more scenes which i can quote but yeah what i'm trying to say is, here ppl are enjoying VAni only from Veer's pov. No one is actually think from Bani's pov. She already made clear she doesnt care abt veer or his family. So why would she analyse each and every action of veer or fake veer.

That's the problem with bani. She is not understanding anything. She is just blind.

Only when her beliefs get cracked she might able to see the other side of the coin. Till now she didnt get anything solid which might question her beliefs. Veer was also not helping with his contant main villain dialogue. Only in last week sat epi we had veer speaking something different to bani. But unfortunately we dont have any continuation for that.

Waiting for that day when she will realize that what is wrong and what is right.

Bani has long way to go to feel for veer. She has this passion towards veer which she herself is not aware of. Then how can you expect her to compare veer and fake veer.

Yeah it's my mistake to expect anything from her. Jo abhi taak veer ko nhi samjh sakhi wo fake veer ko kya samjhy gi.

This post is not to hurt anyone's feelings. Forgive me if i hurted any of your feelings.

Dear you put your points well. I agreed with your Bani's POV.

I know Veer is not dhood ka dhola.

But see don't you think that she is little bit wrong to veer. Matlab app kisi ko bar bar hurt karahy ho i hate you , don't touch me, shut up bol rahy ho , maaro mujhe keh ky instigate karahy aur wo banda apko pyar sy jawab dy raha hai tu at least i am not saying that she should fall in love with him suddenly but ek bar hi sahi soch tu sakhti thi na k shayd veer itna bura nhi hai jitna mein sochti hoon. Beshak baad mein iss khayal ko jhootla(smirk) deti.

Maybe I am thinking as Vani fan not as Bani fan.

Those who are comparing Veer with Shakura. Please don't do this. Veer is not a gentleman I know but he is not lusty like Shukara. He always gave privacy to Bani. Veer ny bani par apna haq jaataya hai par usky pichy uska pyar tha. He never came that close to bani like shakura did. He never crossed his limits like Shakura did in bathroom scene.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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I agree with u..đŸ‘đŸŒ

I particularly mentioned Veer saving Meera scene is that I thought may be Bani 'll recall and compare it with shakura creepily watching her changing inside bathroom.. where as he actually gave her privacy when she told him she needs to change....it's for realising this guy is NOT veer..

I never romantise every Veer's actions... I still don't agree with what he did with Bani in swimming pool and in Sangeet..

And yes...Veer is not completely a good boy...

Thank u so much for always writing brilliantly from Bani pov 👏

Edited by amlavs - 5 years ago
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More things I would like to add is Veer is a proper grey shades character who respect Bani alot and make sure she gets that from outside and from the family as well. He's always empowering her to be strong and stand up for herself which is his good qualities.

What he did to Noor was wrong even though his intentions wasn't wrong at all he wanted to save his friend that day not thinking how the girl would feel and what Veer feels for Bani....He never had such strong feelings for anyone else besides his family.

Veer isn't perfect and neither is Bani I wish people have more patient here and give Bani time to grow not everything can happen in a flash. She never promised Veer anything at all, She made clear from day 1 she doesn't like him, He was the one who been after her. It's not like Bani used to love him once, That's not the case here at all.

Edited by AutumnColors - 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: Gayathri_10

My answer- A BIG NO

Am I disappointed- Again a BIG NO

Here let me put some unpleasent memories bani had of him( strictly bani pov). Ppl here mostly remember pleasent memories only which is justified also bcoz u knew veer is good. But not bani

From the start she is shouting her lungs out that i hate veeranshu singhania.

Here ppl are asking is she forgot abt meera-daksh incident. He said if girl said NO then take that and go, dont disturb her again. But when he exactly gave respect to bani's NO to him. See i dont want to quote this at all. But the continuous comments kinda made me do this. Ppl including me are loving VAni. But lets remember every moment of VAni not the only ones where u felt extremely soft for veer.

During that sangeet day he forcefully back hugged her and made scene in front of everyone. Are you ppl really trying to justify this act juz bcoz u are loving him. Please Put urself in bani's place. I only saw one post in this IF for this action of him towards bani. In that thread too lot of you defended him saying he is not a human so there is no need for him to follow human morale. But in daksh case u ppl are applauding for him bcoz he gave lines on human morale😆

Next that forced marriage. Okay lets give it a free pass since she herself chose it.

Next grahpravesh. Even after her declining and continuously SHOUTING to LET HER GO veer carried her infront of his brothers.

Then in that same scene he asked her to change dress in his own way that is to remove the dress and after a pause he gave the other dress and said change it

Next he removing his t-shirt and coming extremely close to her. I personally cringed at that scene.

And the swimming pool scene where he dumped her. We were very soft towards eer bcoz of that fbs seq but lets juz accept that he showed himself like he will truly hurt bani. So defo bani will think of him as bad person only.

And there are more scenes which i can quote but yeah what i'm trying to say is, here ppl are enjoying VAni only from Veer's pov. No one is actually think from Bani's pov. She already made clear she doesnt care abt veer or his family. So why would she analyse each and every action of veer or fake veer.

Only when her beliefs get cracked she might able to see the other side of the coin. Till now she didnt get anything solid which might question her beliefs. Veer was also not helping with his contant main villain dialogue. Only in last week sat epi we had veer speaking something different to bani. But unfortunately we dont have any continuation for that.

Bani has long way to go to feel for veer. She has this passion towards veer which she herself is not aware of. Then how can you expect her to compare veer and fake veer.

This post is not to hurt anyone's feelings. Forgive me if i hurted any of your feelings.

Gayathri, I absolutely agree with you! It's a nice post! đŸ‘đŸŒ

Bold@ Veer definitely misbehaved with Bani on Sangeet. Yes, he made a scene in front of everyone, it was disrespectful. Bani was extremely annoyed and petrified because of his behaviour. That one post of IF was created by me. He is the hero of the show, so I thought the makers wouldn't show those scenes.

Even though Veer is my favourite character because he is entertaining I disliked his actions quite a few times. He is not an ideal person whom we should follow. As far as Shakura is concerned, he is a negative character and this type of behaviour is expected from a villain.

Edited by Shirsha90 - 5 years ago
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Posted: 5 years ago
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Excellent gayu... 👏 you brilliantly justified why bani's behaviour toward veer is not good.

I defo agree that for audience perspective bani is too rude towards veer... But thats because we know veer better than bani. it definitely give us audience a story of both the sides where we know who is right but the characteres does not. so it's obviously not good to judge only one person.

I agree with you! In noors case, Veer was Casanova before meeting bani. but when bani entered in his life. Especially after he learned truth about Jay is not right guy and bani is innocent in teers case. He's kinda protective toward bani. The bit animosity he created in his mind toward bani is vanished somewhere after he finds out Bani is not murderer of teer. He is changing himself in a better way. He is adjusting things for her. He's rather seeking than demanding the loyalty which should be in husband and wife which I think is not an appropriate demand right now. He needs to clear the all the doubts from her mind in order to expect the same loyalty. I felt sometime he wasn't bad but the circumstances were making him represented as bad!

I just want this misunderstanding to clear up soon which I know is not possible so soon!😭

Ooops I wanted to start with bani's pov ended at veer.🙊 hayyy re veer ki diwangee 😆

sorry gayu don't kill me for this😆

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Posted: 5 years ago
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I think I have mentioned quite a few times in my reviews and other posts, that Veer doesn't practice what he preaches. Veer's behavior with Bani pre-marriage cannot be justified and neither his pravachan he gave to Daksh be justified. The bugger literally invaded Bani's space, stalked her, misbehaved with her, and thought in his mind that his actions came off as love. How is he even given the right to reprimand his brothers, when they can actually see him doing the same thing.

Veer is incapable of expressing love in a normal way, I don't know why I feel because he has this excessive need to display that he is a Cheel and behave like one and retain a sense of belonging. Like it is drilled in his mind that you are Cheel, you are conditioned to behave a certain way, and you cannot let go of the facade. Just because you are a Cheel, doesn't mean you have to be a bratty, spoiled and insensitive jerk. If that is your definition of being a Cheel, then sorry dude, Bani aise hi tumhari nahi hone wali, even after Jai is exposed.

The Veer we see now after marriage, the one who defended Meera, the one who gives privacy, the one who doesn't force himself on Bani, the one who respects Bani, who put a curtain in between them, where was he before marriage? Why did he not show these traits before marriage? That time he was desperate to have Bani all to himself. Now also he is desperate to have Bani all to himself. Women empowerment ki baat to ki, lekin shuruat ek aurat ki izzat ki dhajjiya udake ki. Intention kuch bhi ho, but tareeka was horrible, to say the least. Daksh ko maara badtameezi ke liye, but dude, you were doing the same before marriage with Bani.

Maana ki Jai milawati doodhwala hai, lekin tu kaunsa doodh se dhula hai bhai. Apne karname to Veer ne dekhe nahi. Raaye badalne ke liye khud ko badalna padta hai dada. Apni harkaton ka beora dekhoge, to pata chalega ki Bani kyun khunnas khakar baithi hai. And, last night Bani wasn't completely wrong. She realized from the man's words that something is wrong. Actions could be similar because Bani hates badtameezi, but going by Bani's dialogues, unconsciously she was analyzing Shakura, "Mujhe kabhi chot na pahunchane wale Veeranshu Singhania", "Tum sach me chahte ho main chali jaun", "Isne Jai ko dhaabewala nahi kaha, pehli baar".


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