Real Faces and Brain vs Heart - Page 2

Originally posted by: Meena_J

What I was pondering over though is Shravan only told his side of the story to basi & saurabh & warned about the impulsivesness mein galti mat karna. On a pro side, Shravan opened up his old wounds.But on the con side, the story was only from Shravan's POV. What about Suman's POV? I'm sensing some level of selfishness for some reason.

They say there are 3 sides to every story, his, hers and the truth. I guess to come to a reconciliation they both need to explore the other person's story. Although like Misfit's second post in the other thread I also feel there was more of an onus on Shravan to do so back then. He had enough information to realize where she was coming from. And her not believing in Devraj is not exactly a fault you can blame her for.

Originally posted by: malikakas

They say there are 3 sides to every story, his, hers and the truth. I guess to come to a reconciliation they both need to explore the other person's story. Although like Misfit's second post in the other thread I also feel there was more of an onus on Shravan to do so back then. He had enough information to realize where she was coming from. And her not believing in Devraj is not exactly a fault you can blame her for.

Originally posted by: Meena_J

Yeah, I guess she just believed what she saw. (Unless there's a back story to this bc the writers do surprise viewers a lot here😆) He expected her to see his side of the story quickly enough but she already tormented enough. What I didn't like much though was the hospital scene of yelling at patients and forming opinions at times hence I was speaking at a professionalism grounds even though her torment was clearly visible and she had no exact emotional support to rely on at that point when she 17 years old so a lot of information to process based on the tragic turn of events overwhelmed her at that point so, as an audience, I can understand the pain and the grief behind the filter that she creates. It was more from a realistic POV that if one were to behave somewhat rudely or something in a professional setting, it can lead to bad relationships since doctors usually will be nice and calm enough to at least perform their duties (unless situation demands so). 😆Sorry if my words offended anyone.

I think the background is important. Vijay always questioned whether Devraj was an honourable businessman. Even the dads' first argument was centred around that which the kids overheard. Then of course Vijay reiterating that sentiment on the night they caught the kids. So I think in that context to find out that Devraj was arrested by the police and the media all say that it was a faulty vest, most people would believe he was culpable. And most people would also believe Shravan was being emotional about his dad. We have to see how they play it out because either side could be correct. They could also allow both to be correct by blaming it on an employee like we saw in one of the earlier episodes.

Tbh, I have seen all sorts of doctors. 😆 Not all have the greatest bedside manner. It just depends on your field and how good you are at your job whether it gets tolerated professionally. Usually excellent surgeons can get away with it. I didn't see Suman's situation as something particularly striking. The patient was shouting to begin with which would disturb other patients too but by the end her mannerism did soften towards him and he was smiling by the end too. It is not something I would do personally but it is also entertaining to watch for me. Kind of like House M.D. 😆

Originally posted by: malikakas

I think the background is important. Vijay always questioned whether Devraj was an honourable businessman. Even the dads' first argument was centred around that which the kids overheard. Then of course Vijay reiterating that sentiment on the night they caught the kids. So I think in that context to find out that Devraj was arrested by the police and the media all say that it was a faulty vest, most people would believe he was culpable. And most people would also believe Shravan was being emotional about his dad. We have to see how they play it out because either side could be correct. They could also allow both to be correct by blaming it on an employee like we saw in one of the earlier episodes. Yes, a clarity needs to be provide or a back drop because otherwise we'll have a difference of opinions between the duo. Let's see how further episodes reveal this story & what the final verdict shall be. Shravan is right from his POV that the one who taught about not cheating in the cricket match can't really be responsible for this but it was years ago & not much of a justified reason to prove his innocence vs the evidences that were pointing against him. Abh kya nazar andaaz hora h yah nhi only CVs knows.😆

Tbh, I have seen all sorts of doctors. 😆 Not all have the greatest bedside manner. It just depends on your field and how good you are at your job whether it gets tolerated professionally. Usually excellent surgeons can get away with it. I didn't see Suman's situation as something particularly striking. The patient was shouting to begin with which would disturb other patients too but by the end her mannerism did soften towards him and he was smiling by the end too. It is not something I would do personally but it is also entertaining to watch for me. Kind of like House M.D. 😆 Yes, that is why unless the situation demands it, I get that she had to use it but in the process it terrified the little girl in the back. 😆So kinda felt bad but it is what it is. Hence all docs are different.

Originally posted by: Meena_J

Yes, a clarity needs to be provide or a back drop because otherwise we'll have a difference of opinions between the duo. Let's see how further episodes reveal this story & what the final verdict shall be. Shravan is right from his POV that the one who taught about not cheating in the cricket match can't really be responsible for this but it was years ago & not much of a justified reason to prove his innocence vs the evidences that were pointing against him. Abh kya nazar andaaz hora h yah nhi only CVs knows.

So going by the previous show by the same production house, YPNTKH, that could have been a feint. Because there they initially made the girl's dad seem good but then in the end showed a different picture. And here Devraj isn't completely clean. He did bribe someone to delay Vijay from showing up.

Also I guess the other aspect is that if the vest itself is faulty then even if no one intentionally did something wrong would he still be liable? I think manufacturers do have some liability in that case.

Originally posted by: malikakas

So going by the previous show by the same production house, YPNTKH, that could have been a feint. Because there they initially made the girl's dad seem good but then in the end showed a different picture. And here Devraj isn't completely clean. He did bribe someone to delay Vijay from showing up.

Also I guess the other aspect is that if the vest itself is faulty then even if no one intentionally did something wrong would he still be liable? I think manufacturers do have some liability in that case.

Originally posted by: Meena_J

As a CEO of the bullet manufacturing company and the one supervising the project, technically he was responsible (to what extent we don't know). IDK if he'll be shown as a negative character because he did remember the last moments with Vijay but 7 years have passed and don;t know what Devraj is really aside from small conversations with Shravan regarding the case and selling the house so I won;t judge based on the current conversations unless Devraj pops in out of sudden.

@bold. They showed the same YPNTKH too though. The dads’ had a genuine friendship despite what happened. But who knows If the production team will play it the same way in show. But they seem to tend to keep it a mystery for a while.

Originally posted by: malikakas

@bold. They showed the same YPNTKH too though. The dads’ had a genuine friendship despite what happened. But who knows If the production team will play it the same way in show. But they seem to tend to keep it a mystery for a while.

Originally posted by: malikakas

Thank you for your interesting analysis. I agree with a lot of it. I have always felt that Suman was more repressed and somewhat affected by her childhood of always moving around and never being able to maintain her friendships. Shravan has had the advantage of Bunty as a stabilizing factor.

I would also say the difference is that Shravan was actively looking for love whereas Suman kept herself away in fear that it would distract herself from her goals (could also be related to always moving around). But emotionally Shravan was more prepared for love than she was. He pursued her. He went through the phases of knowing it was a liking, a crush then understanding it was love. Whereas for Suman it was bit surprise because it was not on her radar.

But I would say the biggest difference is at the end of the day loving Shravan came at a cost for Suman that Shravan didn't have to pay. They both lost the relationship but Suman lost the ability to make amends with her father because of the relationship. So it plays a role in how they cope. She is dealing with a bit more on her plate.

Personally, I don't see that Shravan is any less bitter. Mentioning he was Captain Shravan Malhotra was kind of needless since he was wearing the uniform. So he was trying to get a reaction out of her. Same with their meeting in the colonel's office. It was him trying to get a reaction out of her and then her responding harshly trying to shut him down. Then even on the phone when Veer says even Didu doesn't want us to meet.. Shravan immediately says no forget your Didu, even though he knows the situation is complicated. So he is trying to one up her just as much if not more so from my view.

I am not sure about his risk taking in the field. Because it wasn't presented to me in a way that suggested it was an admirable thing. So even though this was an earlier Shravan trait it is not a balanced thing. Then you have Suman commenting that its as if he was in a race to make himself a martyr. So I think what we are seeing is a bit of self sabotage from both characters.

@ B You said it so nicely.....that line emphasizes the whole agony... I think Suman's reaction mostly based on her own guilty feeling...she could have cope with the loss of her father over the time if her last meeting with him didn't go that way. Anyway, it would have hit her bad as she was close to her dad but things could have different. I would be interested to know...did they have any evidence to claim Devraj at fault?...hope that's coming up soon....whether Vijay was the only person was killed due to that vest...there are many qs at this point than answer TBH.

@ Red...I was literally laughing at it...so much effort to show off there....he was wearing his uniform......it looks like more to me you drew a cow then writing below it this is a picture of a cow...🤣

@ green.....at very 1st epi, we show Shravan was jumping from a bridge for a game ticket risking his life.....so this was shown as a not so uncommon trait for him...

Thanks for this pretty thorough analysis...I agree with you in most of it...there are still many twists or turn needed to be explored...so hard to predict the whole....both of them experienced loss and agony...it's hard to measure & compare...but if we see it most realistic way...Shravan still has a good support system but Suman...lacks that...in all points....in the excess she has that aunt...to deal with as well...both of them are holding the grudges....what may not be unexpected at the situation.....Shravan's sankiness would have been useful if it would have served any true purpose for his job....it is more showing his earlier habit of risk-taking without much thought...I also liked it the way he was explaining about Suman to his army friends...of course before bringing up their break up... what shows he still has those feelings for her....that also applies to Suman as well....I would be more interested to know about the case against Devraj......