Jalan (ARY) Emmad Irfani , Minal Khan , Areeba Habib DT Note PG 72 - Page 56

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Thanks for sharing @Seher.

Yes. Audience need entertainment, but how can banning few dramas cause them to stop watching Pakistani dramas ? Ppl who like watching a good and clean drama which can be watched with the whole family will keep watching. Those who crave for scandelous topics can watch on any other channel. Pak dramas don't need to imitate others.

Also why showing 2 sisters fighting for the same man . They can still show 2 cousins do the same. In Pyar Ke Sadqay, Sarwar wasn't a mehram to Mahajabeen , coz he wasn't Abdullah's father. But it left the impression that it was najayaz relationship because the whole family was living under the same roof. I think Pemra banned those dramas to defend women from mehrams or na mehrams who live under the same roof, coz it is more dangerous, and can always happen. So showing it on tv may give ideas to the bad men.

It's tragic that a section of people in Pakistan, in 2020, use the television as a moral compass instead of solely for entertainment. I have many friends who have seen American series with suicide, murder, and etc. but they do not take it to heart. Watched and put their phone away, and gave their opinion on what they thought about the story. But didn't complain that it would have a "negative impact". Everything has "negative impact on culture", but why? Can't one figure out that it's just to watch and move on with your day? If we want to really talk about more shows that could lead people on the wrong path or show toxicity, lets ban Raaz-e-Ulfat, Tera Gham Aur Hum, Mera Dil Mera Dushman, Meharposh, Bikhre Moti and more honestly.

I understand the na-mehram relationship completely, and I think Jalan should've been censored to an extent where they didn't show too much intimacy between Asfi-Nisha. So banning is a lesson. But the debate this has sparked is what Pakistan even wants to see on TV. Every story is bashed now. All they care about these days is Ertugrul anyways, and trash their own content. But if they feel TV is not entertainment, and is a moral compass, dramas are going to get real boring. Society needs to understand TV is ENTERTAINMENT, but who knows how long it'll take. Sadly, in Pakistan it may be long until some people can think for themselves instead of relying on 8PM dramas to make their life stories

I just don’t understand people who defend toxic dramas. We tune into these stories for their entertainment value, to be mesmerized by the melodrama, to enjoy all the juicy gossip. It can be our best guilty pleasure but least we can do is not lie that our interest mitigates its toxicity. 🙄 We may look at it with amusement, like it’s some shiny red apple when it’s actually rotten to the core. But we are still not ready to accept it. We are still not ready for the ‘Paki dramas lost its charm’ debate. A wise man would fairly blame the scriptwriters for the muddy, incoherent storyline instead of blaming a popular drama from another country. This year, in particular, has been famous for producing which would all have been reported if we ever start assessing narrative coherence and drama making skills. The storytelling is never wholly coherent like it was back in the PTV era. Most of the dramas today have no soul, no magic, no feeling for character, nothing for us to care about. Writers forgot to write a plot. And yet they write. Because deep down they know people not only love to watch nonsensical plots, they downright defend it. Why? Because they love the actors. Good acting can be a redeeming feature, and it doesn’t need a good drama to shine through. I agree! Completely. But don’t you think that is actually a misstep? A minus point since the whole potential is being wasted? You can like a drama in spite of its critics which is cool but in case you are defending it just because the actors are good, try watching workout videos over that. They have better storylines lol. Or put on a good movie on Netflix in the background while scrolling through good acting gifs on your phone lol. Why set the bar so low? Is there a shortage of prestige TV series? 🤔 Dil pay haath rakh k batayain aren’t you fed up of Jalan kind of plots? Why always show sisters who just can’t seem to get along? Why is sibling rivalry such a rich topic for film or drama? Why even turn an intense sisterly bond to full-blown dysfunction? Creative liberty is one thing. But writers seem to exploit the tipping point where they not only make a bad sister flick but they also show a sister literally seducing her bil.

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How does we change by every passing decade? Of course with technology and TV isn’t just entertainment, this affects society. Society doesn’t change without any influence, everything has influence. Every behaviour comes from somewhere, it doesn’t come from air. Good decision by the whoever she is.

Originally posted by: azaanabbas

It's tragic that a section of people in Pakistan, in 2020, use the television as a moral compass instead of solely for entertainment. I have many friends who have seen American series with suicide, murder, and etc. but they do not take it to heart. Watched and put their phone away, and gave their opinion on what they thought about the story. But didn't complain that it would have a "negative impact". Everything has "negative impact on culture", but why? Can't one figure out that it's just to watch and move on with your day? If we want to really talk about more shows that could lead people on the wrong path or show toxicity, lets ban Raaz-e-Ulfat, Tera Gham Aur Hum, Mera Dil Mera Dushman, Meharposh, Bikhre Moti and more honestly.

I understand the na-mehram relationship completely, and I think Jalan should've been censored to an extent where they didn't show too much intimacy between Asfi-Nisha. So banning is a lesson. But the debate this has sparked is what Pakistan even wants to see on TV. Every story is bashed now. All they care about these days is Ertugrul anyways, and trash their own content. But if they feel TV is not entertainment, and is a moral compass, dramas are going to get real boring. Society needs to understand TV is ENTERTAINMENT, but who knows how long it'll take. Sadly, in Pakistan it may be long until some people can think for themselves instead of relying on 8PM dramas to make their life stories

Well said Azaan.

That's the problem with PEMRA starting to ban dramas- where does it stop? Everyone has entirely different value systems and boundaries and now they're opening the floor to people who will question every single drama because it doesn't come up to their moral standards. So we might as well not watch anything.

Now, I agree that a lot of dramas that are currently airing show various degrees of toxic and regressive behaviour and maybe we need more dramas that aren't that way- but the way to improve the quality of programming isn't just banning dramas wily-nily. It's to improve the standard overall and make dramas that aren't the same old same topic. And quite frankly, I think the kind of shows that are popular show you where society is.

It's a weird mindset that people have that they think the dramas are bringing immorality into their households. Pyaar ke Sadqay is not giving creepy men ideas to harass their daughter-in-laws. I can guarantee you creepy men are already harassing their daughter-in-laws, in fact even their own daughters may not be safe from them. Nowhere in the drama was Sarwar's behaviour excused or was he treated as anything other than an evil man. If anything PKS told women that this kind of behaviour is unacceptable and even people who you should be safe with may not be good people and it's okay to say that you're not comfortable with the way someone acts with you. (And I didn't even watch that drama, lol). I feel like this whole idea where we don't discuss and condemn vile behaviour because it's some kind of beghairti and white-washing society is partly why we have these social problems.

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Originally posted by: nanette

I just don’t understand people who defend toxic dramas. We tune into these stories for their entertainment value, to be mesmerized by the melodrama, to enjoy all the juicy gossip. It can be our best guilty pleasure but least we can do is not lie that our interest mitigates its toxicity. 🙄 We may look at it with amusement, like it’s some shiny red apple when it’s actually rotten to the core. But we are still not ready to accept it. We are still not ready for the ‘Paki dramas lost its charm’ debate. All we do is stick our fingers in our ears, close our eyes and scream LALALALALALALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU! A wise man would fairly blame the scriptwriters for the muddy, incoherent storyline instead of blaming a popular drama from another country. This year, in particular, has been famous for producing pile of sick filth which would all have been reported if we ever start assessing narrative coherence and drama making skills. The storytelling is never wholly coherent like it was back in the PTV era. Most of the dramas today have no soul, no magic, no feeling for character, nothing for us to care about. Writers forgot to write a plot. And yet they write. Because deep down they know people not only love to watch nonsensical plots, they downright defend it. Why? Because they love the actors. Good acting can be a redeeming feature, and it doesn’t need a good drama to shine through. I agree! Completely. But don’t you think that is actually a misstep? A minus point since the whole potential is being wasted? You can like a drama in spite of its critics which is cool but in case you are defending it just because the actors are good, try watching workout video over that. They have better storylines lol. Or put on a good movie on Netflix in the background while scrolling through good acting gifs on your phone lol. Why set the bar so low? Is there a shortage of prestige TV series? 🤔 Dil pay haath rakh k batayain aren’t you fed up of Jalan kind of plots? Why always show sisters who just can’t seem to get along? Why is sibling rivalry such a rich topic for film or drama? Why even turn an intense sisterly bond to full-blown dysfunction? Creative liberty is one thing. But writers seem to exploit the tipping point where they not only make a bad sister flick but they also show a sister literally seducing her bil. Ew. That shit really raises the bar, doesn’t it?

Nobody is defending the toxic drama. I know it's toxic and admitted it too. It's not defending the show, it's more so stating the fact that there are WAY more important issues in Pakistan that need to be touched upon instead of banning a drama that you aren't forced to watch. Literally just pick up the remote and change the channel. Watch GEO, PLAY, APLUS, HUM, AAJ, URDU1, there are so many other options for you that make new content. It's there, watch if you want. It's not glorifying the affair. It's gonna show what happens when you do things like this. But no, our audience is great to jumping to conclusions.
Pakistani dramas have not exactly lost their charm. What has happened? I'll tell you. Pakistani channels have to make seven 8PM dramas, a 7PM series, 9PM show, all to attract day long viewership. Can they afford A-list writers for every single show. No. Just look at HUM in 2011, they had one 8PM soap that ran Mon-Wed while 4 shows ran Thu-Sun; 1 each day. No 7PM show and one 9PM soap. And let's face it. Umera Ahmed or Farhat Ishtiaq aren't gonna write 9PM serials. They aren't even meant for the later slot either, they write blockbusters for the main prime slot. So yeah. I think it's more about writers, and I can give you a few shows that have great charm right now. Watch Mushk, Prem Gali, Saraab, Sabaat. There are even Kashf and etc but I think people might start saying it has the typicalness to it desptie those plots being on the side. Anyways, not every drama that came out of Pakistan in 2011-recent were all great either. There have been many disastrous dramas in the years, but now with social media being prominent people have a open platform to bash our industry and our actors and actresses.

Cheekh and many shows have A-list stars with great plots but no one cares to bring those up, it's more about how in this season we have typical stories and everyone jumped the bandwagon on hating our dramas, lmao. And yeah once again, try Mushk, Prem Gali. You might find the depth to be good. And our writers write that the masses want, and there is a section that wants stuff like saas-bahu series and there are a few made yearly to cater. Everyone has a choice of what they wanna watch. I'm not defending Jalan, it's just weird to me that so many dramas later PEMRA decided to single this out and same goes for the disgusting people that sent Minal rape threats and death threats for doing this character. There were some things that ARY should've cut out, but they didn't and they deserve this for that then. Sibling rivalry is watched by people so the writers are gonna make it. I'm not the biggest fan either but what gets ratings is what gets ratings, and it's not in every show either. But if you feel Pakistani dramas are trash, you are free to tune out and switch to other means of dramas.

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Originally posted by: Rabz_14

Yes there have been other dramas on this sisters topic but their plot was kind of diff

Even Mawra's yahan pyar nahi hai was really similar to Jalan too

Urwa's madiha maliha also similar concept

I guess both had Junaid Khan.

Originally posted by: Rabz_14

Even Mawra's yahan pyar nahi hai was really similar to Jalan too

were saba and mawra sisters in that one? i thought mawra was a outsider.. i remember liking the show but barely remember the story as it was from long ago.