Pakistani Serials Forum Chat Club #2 - Page 32

I'll have a go at question 2.

Originally posted by: tapori

Guys, I'm very unfamiliar with Pakistan, and had a lot of queries.

If any of you could answer any of these, would be grateful. :)

1. Are there any good dramas that show the cultures of Balochistan and/or NWFP (easier to type:))?

2. Is the drama industry based in Karachi? Do most actors converse in Karachi accent?

Historically, the drama industry has been based in Karachi while the film industry was based in Lahore (hence why it's called Lollywood, lol). However with all the channels we have, an increasingly larger number of dramas are filmed in Lahore and some in Islamabad.

Pakistani dramas are mostly in Urdu as that's the lingua franca and national language and everyone is taught it at school. There are smaller channels that produce dramas in other languages (I only know about Sindhi dramas for sure, but I assume that there are also other ones).

There's no such thing as a Karachi accent. Karachi is the most ethnically diverse city in Pakistan. While a lot of Karachi's population comprises of the Urdu-speaking migrants from North India post-partition, a lot of people from Sindh, Punjab, Balochistan and Pashtuns (from the North of Pakistan and from Afghanistan) are also settled in Karachi. So there are a lot of people whose native tongue isn't Urdu, which can influence their accent when they talk. Otherwise most people living in the more urban parts of the country who have formally learnt Urdu at school, have a pretty standard Urdu accent, with small variations depending on the other languages they speak/understand.

If you've seen Suno Chanda, Shahana in that had a pretty Punjabi-forward accent when she spoke Urdu.

Originally posted by: Unique.Sheep

Cineworld UK

did you go see it 😆

vue looks like a nice cinema , the one by westfield

are any schools open in uk?

Originally posted by: azaanabbas

did you go see it 😆

vue looks like a nice cinema , the one by westfield

are any schools open in uk?

i already saw it on tv, why would I watch it again😆

I have heard vue is good but never been to it. I always go to cineworld because I have an unlimited pass for it.

Yeah all the schools have opened now

Originally posted by: Sammi266

I'll have a go at question 2.

Historically, the drama industry has been based in Karachi while the film industry was based in Lahore (hence why it's called Lollywood, lol). However with all the channels we have, an increasingly larger number of dramas are filmed in Lahore and some in Islamabad.

Pakistani dramas are mostly in Urdu as that's the lingua franca and national language and everyone is taught it at school. There are smaller channels that produce dramas in other languages (I only know about Sindhi dramas for sure, but I assume that there are also other ones).

There's no such thing as a Karachi accent. Karachi is the most ethnically diverse city in Pakistan. While a lot of Karachi's population comprises of the Urdu-speaking migrants from North India post-partition, a lot of people from Sindh, Punjab, Balochistan and Pashtuns (from the North of Pakistan and from Afghanistan) are also settled in Karachi. So there are a lot of people whose native tongue isn't Urdu, which can influence their accent when they talk. Otherwise most people living in the more urban parts of the country who have formally learnt Urdu at school, have a pretty standard Urdu accent, with small variations depending on the other languages they speak/understand.

If you've seen Suno Chanda, Shahana in that had a pretty Punjabi-forward accent when she spoke Urdu.

Thank you!

I'd heard that Karachi people speak very fast, but it was just hearsay.

I find many similarities between Karachi and Mumbai.

Suno Chanda is definitely in my watchlist. I've started watching Aunn Zara and see a lot of Punjabi touch there too.

Originally posted by: tapori

Thank you!

I'd heard that Karachi people speak very fast, but it was just hearsay.

I find many similarities between Karachi and Mumbai.

Suno Chanda is definitely in my watchlist. I've started watching Aunn Zara and see a lot of Punjabi touch there too.

It could be possible that Karachi people do speak fast, lol. I feel like people in big cities talk fast in general. I never thought of the Karachi/Mumbai comparison but from what I know of Mumbai you're actually probably right.

I only watched the first season of Suno Chanda, so I can't give any guarantees, but one of the uncles is from Peshawar so it also gives you an interesting insight into how people speaking different languages come together in a family setting. Punjabi is often used as a 'comedy' language in Pakistan (which is something I've also seen in Bollywood movies- the Punjabi character will be 'funny') which I think may not be entirely fair.

You also asked about traditional dramas set in Balochistan or the North, and while I don't know if there are any dramas set in Balochistan there was Deedan and Sang-e-Mar Mar which were set in the North in more traditional settings. I haven't seen either because they seemed depressing and I'm not very familiar with the culture in the North, so I can't vouch for authenticity either. There was also Diyar-e-Dil (which has Maya and Osman since you're watching Aunn Zara, lol)- which I think is a very good drama. It's also set in the North, although the family isn't overly traditional in that.

About the swearwords- yes we do have the big mother/sister swears. In fact, I think we probably share most if not all our swear words, lol. This is my personal and very limited experience, but swearing is really not encouraged and people think it's 'unsophisticated' or crude/vulgar. That may be a common school of thought because there's not a lot of swearing on TV- they censor out even the very minor words. I think whether circles of friends swear or not depends from group to group, but you're not swearing in front of your parents/grandparents.

Infact, I was a little shocked by how casual an Indian friend was about ch***ya- because I think that's quite a mild swear word, isn't it- but it's a bigger deal in Pakistan, lol, which I thought was interesting. I don't think you're going to have any luck finding any mainstream dramas with any swearing, however, I do know that the new drama Churails on Zee5, has lots swearing because it has made a lot of people on the internet very unhappy about that.

Originally posted by: Sammi266

It could be possible that Karachi people do speak fast, lol. I feel like people in big cities talk fast in general. I never thought of the Karachi/Mumbai comparison but from what I know of Mumbai you're actually probably right.

I only watched the first season of Suno Chanda, so I can't give any guarantees, but one of the uncles is from Peshawar so it also gives you an interesting insight into how people speaking different languages come together in a family setting. Punjabi is often used as a 'comedy' language in Pakistan (which is something I've also seen in Bollywood movies- the Punjabi character will be 'funny') which I think may not be entirely fair.

You also asked about traditional dramas set in Balochistan or the North, and while I don't know if there are any dramas set in Balochistan there was Deedan and Sang-e-Mar Mar which were set in the North in more traditional settings. I haven't seen either because they seemed depressing and I'm not very familiar with the culture in the North, so I can't vouch for authenticity either. There was also Diyar-e-Dil (which has Maya and Osman since you're watching Aunn Zara, lol)- which I think is a very good drama. It's also set in the North, although the family isn't overly traditional in that.

About the swearwords- yes we do have the big mother/sister swears. In fact, I think we probably share most if not all our swear words, lol. This is my personal and very limited experience, but swearing is really not encouraged and people think it's 'unsophisticated' or crude/vulgar. That may be a common school of thought because there's not a lot of swearing on TV- they censor out even the very minor words. I think whether circles of friends swear or not depends from group to group, but you're not swearing in front of your parents/grandparents.

Infact, I was a little shocked by how casual an Indian friend was about ch***ya- because I think that's quite a mild swear word, isn't it- but it's a bigger deal in Pakistan, lol, which I thought was interesting. I don't think you're going to have any luck finding any mainstream dramas with any swearing, however, I do know that the new drama Churails on Zee5, has lots swearing because it has made a lot of people on the internet very unhappy about that.

Thanks again!

Diyar-e-Dil is in my watchlist. Will consider Deedan & Sang-e-marmar (love the name).

I am one of the few who loves and respects the swear words, lol. In India, the urban areas have a higher acceptance of these words. Of course saying this at home is a big no no. In fact, when I was a child I thought my parents don't know what the F word is. So used it once. They seemed pretty unperturbed, so used again. And then suddenly felt pain from my ears being twisted. It was more painful because of the embarrassment. 😆

Ch$$$iya is an extremely mild word in India. It's literal meaning is someone born traditionally and not via a caesarean (some think it means someone using the traditional access route when making love). Figuratively it's used to mean an idiot. There is actually a Bengali movie (recommended if you're into artsy movies) named Gandu. 🤣 Yes, you read the movie name right! In fact, in a place like Mumbai, among the foul mouthed community, usually every sentence starts with B$$$$$$d. It's like the F word. F word mein woh maza kahan jo desi words mein hai. 😎

In Southern India, I've seen a very high disdain for bad words. Of course whenever I start learning a new language, the first thing I learn is the swear words. So when I spoke Kannada swear words like Niyamman$$$$ or S$$$maga, or even Tamil words like Poda s$$ni or pu$$ai; sach bataa raha hoon, bhoochaal aa jata tha (it used to cause an earthquake). Means I've seen expressions change so drastically, and the reaction was SO revolting, I had to quickly adapt and first determine how comfortable that person was with swear words. And the only guys I found comfortable where from Chennai (erstwhile Madras).

I usually don't use these words in front of girls (I know it's sexist of me but I'm wary of the acceptance) but love it when I find girls who actually use them. 😆

Also back to topic, I saw the PEMRA ban bit on Pyar Ke Sadqay, and sort of now have an inkling of censorship and the themes that makers are expected to insert into their dramas. 😊

https://www.geo.tv/latest/306753-actress-nimra-khan-injured-after-suffering-a-harrowing-accident-at-home

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Originally posted by: azaanabbas

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Originally posted by: Unique.Sheep

theyre all geo🤣