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Posted: 5 years ago
#11

Originally posted by: Namita-M

Kya likhti ho libran!! Love it.

Thanks, Namita. Appreciate it😊

Absolute truth!!

I think Veer is more like Eric Northman from the Sookie Stackhouse books that was turned into a show called True Blood. Eric wanted Sookie, loved her so much but she chose the boring Bill at first. Akal thekane lagi toh loved Eric with all her love and passion.

Bani ke saath bhi yahi hoga. This was exactly how Sookie hated Eric and Eric fell head over heals in their first meeting.

The ultimate romance, full of fire and passion. That’s what I’m seeing.

Jay bhale hi beech Mein aaye, once his truth is outed, Bani will forget about him and accept her love for Veer!! BTW, Bill was an a- 🕳😂😂
I really want to know what is wrong with Jay and what was his role as Hriday? And Veer won't let Bani go so easily. She may run as much as she wants, but ultimately, she has to come to Veer, either for love or revenge or both.

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Posted: 5 years ago
#12

Yaar, itna boring banda hai!! Chal kya raha hai!! I’ve never seen a more pathetic character before.


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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: Namita-M

Yaar, itna boring banda hai!! Chal kya raha hai!! I’ve never seen a more pathetic character before.
I don't know yaar what is the problem. Mere dimaag me ek bahut hi golmaal theory hai, lekin I may be wrong. Kahin aisa to nahi that Jai is not Hriday. Koi aur Naag ho aur hume ye impression de rahe ho that he is Hriday. Ye Ballu, Veer ke mahaan baap ne Mrityu ke Devta ke madad se kahi Aakesh aur Hriday ke souls ko ek saath trap karke ek hi insaan ke roop me uska punarjanam to nahi kiya - which is Veer. Veer ke kundali ke mutabik, he will succumb to his foe in love, which is Bani. So that Adi Naagin does not kill his son, he did this ki yeh jaankar Naagin Veer ko kabhi hurt nahi kar payegi kyunki Aakesh aur Hriday ab ek hai. Dimaag Aakesh ka hai Veer ka, isiliye he is sarphira, but dil Hriday ka ho, isliye usme "afsos" ki bhawana hai. Or some jazz like that? What do you think?

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Posted: 5 years ago
#14

Originally posted by: Mages

Damon embraced his darkness with pride and Elena hid the darkness within and did not want to acknowledge that the darkness within her connects with Damon's. Internally she wanted that darkness to consume her, but her humanity constantly pushed her towards denial. Similarly, the darkness of Aakesh was rather seductive for Naageshwari but she pushed him away because her humanity would not allow it. Basically, Naageshwari or Bani's steadfast denial stems from the fact that they constantly deny their darkest instincts the satisfaction they crave. Both know Aakesh and Veer can satisfy their darkest desires to a point it consumes them, so their humanity or good side is stopping them to succumb to it by covering it in hate or disgust. Naageshwari hated Aakesh because probably she wanted him. And a similar thing is happening to Bani.


As I pointed out, this is Bani's natural reaction to Veer, or rather Naageshwari's reaction to Aakesh. See, firstly both are animals, and animals can never have human instincts. But since they are shapeshifters, they by choice embraced humanity. On the surface, it shows Bani's disgust for Veer, but deep down she hates the fact that it is so easy for him to seduce the darkness or "buraai" that lays dormant within her. She is all the more disgusted because she wants it and cannot have it. She is not so openly bad as Veer is. Veer is okay being bad because there isn't any hypocrisy involved. Jo hai, jaisa hai, thik hai. Lekin Bani bhi ultimately Naagin hai. She is grey lekin usko woh baat accept nahi karni ki woh hai.


this two paragraph you nail it right there with perfection...masterstroke👏


I would like to add on nageshwari-bani both seduce the lightness in aakesh-veer and both the boys loves to consume it and also accept it thus this is one reason why they are in love and obsessed with their naagins and they openly accept it with a smile and eyes full of love and passion they want to consume the light into their soul that they don't mind being killed by the light which it did to aakesh


while aakesh-veer does seduce the darkness in nageshwari-bani but they don't want to consume it becos of their righteous path being lord shiva bhakhts at the same humanity but the darkness princes are seducing them igniting all kinds of desires in their soul and they want to avoid it thus they mask this hatred and denial on their face they might give 1000 deaths or they will take 10000 births but will not want to consume the darkness


but attraction love passion obsession all comes under one emotion and once these emotions replace their denial they won't be able to deny their feelings


yes both will burn together in passion

Good to see you here mages

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Posted: 5 years ago
#15

This is story of Heroin and Villain. Bechara hero tu kisi kaam ka nhi. Veer Bani scenes are nice and they have some spark.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: _NINA_

This is story of Heroin and Villain. Bechara hero tu kisi kaam ka nhi. Veer Bani scenes are nice and they have some spark.

I completely agree with you!

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Posted: 5 years ago
#17

Idea bura nahi hai!! Kuch bhi possible hai.


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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: Namita-M

Idea bura nahi hai!! Kuch bhi possible hai.
At least, N5 me to sab possible hai!

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: libran90

Honestly, ye pehla aisa show hai jahaan so-called hero itna beemaar or weakling hai, aur villain me jyaada taakat hai. I don't know but there is a particular mystery with regards to Jai. Kuch to jhol hai. Aur aaj to full moon night bhi nahi thi, then why did he fall ill? Another mystery is Veer. Jab cheelon ko afsos nahi hota, then how does he feel remorse or guilt? There is definitely some locha in Veer too, which has of course been triggered after his meeting with Bani. But, these will resolve in upcoming episodes. Here goes my take.

Moments (Good & Bad)

Veer & Bani - All moments are really good. They have more zing and fire within each other. Surbhi was much better today as Bani. Her anger and disgust for Veer came out very well and all the scenes were balanced. Honestly, today they gave me the Damon and Elena vibes. I don't know why its like EK has mixed Pyaar Ki Ye Ek Kahaani and Naagin together for this season. The only difference was unlike Abhay who wanted to protect a rather adamant Piya from his darkness, Veer wants Bani to embrace her darkness and succumb to him. Some of the dialogues which highlight this are:

"Behelo Mat, Behek Jao...Sweetheart, hum dono ke beech sirf ek hi cheez ho sakti hai, tum mere andhere me chamkogi ya phir main tumhare ujaale me"

Damon embraced his darkness with pride and Elena hid the darkness within and did not want to acknowledge that the darkness within her connects with Damon's. Internally she wanted that darkness to consume her, but her humanity constantly pushed her towards denial. Similarly, the darkness of Aakesh was rather seductive for Naageshwari but she pushed him away because her humanity would not allow it. Basically, Naageshwari or Bani's steadfast denial stems from the fact that they constantly deny their darkest instincts the satisfaction they crave. Both know Aakesh and Veer can satisfy their darkest desires to a point it consumes them, so their humanity or good side is stopping them to succumb to it by covering it in hate or disgust. Naageshwari hated Aakesh because probably she wanted him. And a similar thing is happening to Bani.

"Chamkoge nahi jaloge, jal jal ke maroge, aur mere kareeb aane ki koshish ki na, to jala dungi tumhe"

As I pointed out, this is Bani's natural reaction to Veer, or rather Naageshwari's reaction to Aakesh. See, firstly both are animals, and animals can never have human instincts. But since they are shapeshifters, they by choice embraced humanity. On the surface, it shows Bani's disgust for Veer, but deep down she hates the fact that it is so easy for him to seduce the darkness or "buraai" that lays dormant within her. She is all the more disgusted because she wants it and cannot have it. She is not so openly bad as Veer is. Veer is okay being bad because there isn't any hypocrisy involved. Jo hai, jaisa hai, thik hai. Lekin Bani bhi ultimately Naagin hai. She is grey lekin usko woh baat accept nahi karni ki woh hai.

"Itna bhi mat chipaana ke kahin meri burai ko apne gale me laga ke ghumna pade"

This just plain and simple points out to how Veer perceives what being "evil" is. I mean he embraces his evilness with pride, but he is correct to point out that she is not as good as she thinks she is because she too hides her dark side from view. Aur point out karne se woh "badtameez" ban jata hai, conveniently. I mean jab uska Naagin transformation hua, tab to un cheelo ki aarti to utaaregi nahi na, maar hi degi na. So match ka score even ho gaya. Cheel Nagas ko marte hai aur Nagas Cheelo ko. I just hope that Bani, at least to herself once accepts that Veer affects her in some way, which Naageshwari never did. Cos this story is new, and things will repeat but not the same as last time. Aur haan Veer, teri burai woh gale me laga ke hi ghumegi, usko mangalsutra kehte hai, aur woh bhi black hi hota hai teri tarah.😆 Some other dialogues which were quite quirky and fun were:

"Bhaiya bola meri jaan nikal gayi"😆

"Jaan lene wala jaan bachayega...kyunki ab usko uski jaan mil gayi hai"❤️

"Tumpe main kabhi bharosa nahi kar sakti...lekin main tumpe har baat ke liye bharosa kar sakta hu, I don't know why"❤️

"Lute huye aashiqo ki baat hi yahi hoti hai, kambakht shaayar bade kamaal ke hote hai."😆

Moving on,

Jai & Bani - They are not, will not, cannot be lovers. There is nothing in the world that convinces me of that. The connection is unconvincing, the concern, the guidance is unconvincing. Aur ye chala hai uski madad karne, yeah right. Jitne speed se ye Nag rengte hue pahuchega na, uski double speed se Veer on his bike do bar pahunch jayega. Kar kya raha hai ye ladka? Inke beech doston wali chemistry ban sakti hai, if they work on it, but lovers wali bilkul nahi. And ye Bani ko kal "pehle pyaar ka ehsaas" huya tha na Jai ke liye. Agle hi din phittus. I mean dono ke interaction me na naye naye pyaar wali awkwardness hai, aur na koi aur feeling. Then why are they even pursuing this couple? Honestly, I only feel one thing for this jodi. In the past, Hriday was a safe haven for Naageshwari, because he was a Nag, she knew him well and so he was the Mr.Good Boy who can be taken to meet the family. But problem tab huya, jab Aakesh aa gaya. And for the first time as a shapeshifter, she felt a very foreign sentiment, something more desirable, more consuming. Something which she never felt with Hriday. But who she felt for - Aakesh, the cheel, her natural mortal enemy. Naagin instincts voted against it and so did human instincts. And ethically, having a joda and feeling for someone else, also she did not want to pursue. So she just covered it up with disgust, conditioned hate for cheels. But the awkwardness she felt with his gaze on her, how his eyes made her feel more beautiful and desirable is something she liked. She cannot deny that. Bani will go through the same. She will use Jai as a fallback to avoid Veer and his darkness, but Veer will not give up so easily.

Nag/Naagin transformation - I am rather surprised by Jai's transformation. I mean it felt like his human and serpent forms are in conflict with each other. Why? Why is it so difficult to transform? What is wrong with him? He died by murder, not curse, then what is wrong with him. Itna thakela aur weak Nag? Kuch samajh nahi aaya. On the other hand, there was a smooth transition for Bani into Adi Naagin. But why did she transform into Noor and then Adi Naagin, is something everybody asked? I have a theory.

Like I said, in a thread, I think Adi Naagin is setting up a trap for her Cheel enemies. Bani went to the police station who deleted the video. They warned Balwant, who sends Shukla's sons to kill Bani and the witness, who very conveniently turns out to be a Naagin. She also informs Veer about eyewitnesses, which weren't present there that night, as far as I know, so how did Bani know? Veer questions his brothers and Balwant gets to know. And then the cheels chase Naina into a cave and corner her and Bani. Bani very conveniently disappears and appears as Noor first and then Adi Naagin. This could be the beginning of her revenge plan to destroy the cheels for good, who destroyed her 10,000 years ago. Which would be a real googly, because here all think Adi Naagin does not remember, but in fact, she remembers all, and everything that happened till now, is an elaborate trap for her enemies - the Cheels.

Or if we go simply by what we saw till now, Bani in a bid to save Naina spontaneously transforms into a Naagin and undergoes her 1st transformation, and since she is a novice as a human, she transformed into Noor and then Adi Naagin. Which, IMO, is hard to believe. So I think, the first scenario could play out or hamara next week bahut bada popat banne wala hai.

Other Observations:

- Yaar, ek baat batao. Chote bhaiyon ko pata hai, that Singhanias engage in flesh trade. But Bade bhai Veer ko pata nahi. Why? Woh to bura hai, cheel hai? To uska batane se kya bigad jaayega? Ya phir jitna bura usse batate ho, usse kahin jyada hi acha hai woh, isiliye darr rahe ho Ballu ji. Kuch to solid panga hai is Ballu ka.

- Ye Tapish bhai, as in Veer ke bade bhai to Bani ke Meera di jaise hi hai. Muh me zubaan nahi hai dono ki hi. Upar se dono ke bhai and behen - as in Bani and Veer me, bhar bhar ke daring hai. Difference sirf itna hai that ek apni burai ko chupata nahi, aur dusri apni burai ko apnati nahi. Sahi couples banenge, bade aur chote.😉

Anyway, ranted for too long. This was my take for tonight. Do share your thoughts on the same. Would love to hear it.😊


I loved your write up. Delena were my favorite ship (though I loved them more when they were apart than when they were together. Naagin is giving major PKYEK vibes, though I like Sharad's acting more than Vivian's and Sukirti more than Surabhi. I may be wrong, but I strongly feel Veer is not Balwant's son. He's different from other cheels. He is not without humanity though he has the cunningness of a cheel. Also, we never see Bani and Jai's parents.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: Autumn09


I loved your write up. Delena were my favorite ship (though I loved them more when they were apart than when they were together. Naagin is giving major PKYEK vibes, though I like Sharad's acting more than Vivian's and Sukirti more than Surabhi. I may be wrong, but I strongly feel Veer is not Balwant's son. He's different from other cheels. He is not without humanity though he has the cunningness of a cheel. Also, we never see Bani and Jai's parents.

Thanks, @Autumn09. Appreciate it. 😊

Yes, I agree Sharad is better than Vivian and Sukirti is better than Surbhi.

Maybe Veer and his brother Tapish are raised by Balwant, but not his children. But they are cheels. He has sly as a fox, but he is also warm.

Bani is shown to be an orphan along with her sister Meera. Jai has a family, but there is no mom and dad. Let's see.

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