Naagin 5 - Take 4

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Honestly, ye pehla aisa show hai jahaan so-called hero itna beemaar or weakling hai, aur villain me jyaada taakat hai. I don't know but there is a particular mystery with regards to Jai. Kuch to jhol hai. Aur aaj to full moon night bhi nahi thi, then why did he fall ill? Another mystery is Veer. Jab cheelon ko afsos nahi hota, then how does he feel remorse or guilt? There is definitely some locha in Veer too, which has of course been triggered after his meeting with Bani. But, these will resolve in upcoming episodes. Here goes my take.

Moments (Good & Bad)

Veer & Bani - All moments are really good. They have more zing and fire within each other. Surbhi was much better today as Bani. Her anger and disgust for Veer came out very well and all the scenes were balanced. Honestly, today they gave me the Damon and Elena vibes. I don't know why its like EK has mixed Pyaar Ki Ye Ek Kahaani and Naagin together for this season. The only difference was unlike Abhay who wanted to protect a rather adamant Piya from his darkness, Veer wants Bani to embrace her darkness and succumb to him. Some of the dialogues which highlight this are:

"Behelo Mat, Behek Jao...Sweetheart, hum dono ke beech sirf ek hi cheez ho sakti hai, tum mere andhere me chamkogi ya phir main tumhare ujaale me"

Damon embraced his darkness with pride and Elena hid the darkness within and did not want to acknowledge that the darkness within her connects with Damon's. Internally she wanted that darkness to consume her, but her humanity constantly pushed her towards denial. Similarly, the darkness of Aakesh was rather seductive for Naageshwari but she pushed him away because her humanity would not allow it. Basically, Naageshwari or Bani's steadfast denial stems from the fact that they constantly deny their darkest instincts the satisfaction they crave. Both know Aakesh and Veer can satisfy their darkest desires to a point it consumes them, so their humanity or good side is stopping them to succumb to it by covering it in hate or disgust. Naageshwari hated Aakesh because probably she wanted him. And a similar thing is happening to Bani.

"Chamkoge nahi jaloge, jal jal ke maroge, aur mere kareeb aane ki koshish ki na, to jala dungi tumhe"

As I pointed out, this is Bani's natural reaction to Veer, or rather Naageshwari's reaction to Aakesh. See, firstly both are animals, and animals can never have human instincts. But since they are shapeshifters, they by choice embraced humanity. On the surface, it shows Bani's disgust for Veer, but deep down she hates the fact that it is so easy for him to seduce the darkness or "buraai" that lays dormant within her. She is all the more disgusted because she wants it and cannot have it. She is not so openly bad as Veer is. Veer is okay being bad because there isn't any hypocrisy involved. Jo hai, jaisa hai, thik hai. Lekin Bani bhi ultimately Naagin hai. She is grey lekin usko woh baat accept nahi karni ki woh hai.

"Itna bhi mat chipaana ke kahin meri burai ko apne gale me laga ke ghumna pade"

This just plain and simple points out to how Veer perceives what being "evil" is. I mean he embraces his evilness with pride, but he is correct to point out that she is not as good as she thinks she is because she too hides her dark side from view. Aur point out karne se woh "badtameez" ban jata hai, conveniently. I mean jab uska Naagin transformation hua, tab to un cheelo ki aarti to utaaregi nahi na, maar hi degi na. So match ka score even ho gaya. Cheel Nagas ko marte hai aur Nagas Cheelo ko. I just hope that Bani, at least to herself once accepts that Veer affects her in some way, which Naageshwari never did. Cos this story is new, and things will repeat but not the same as last time. Aur haan Veer, teri burai woh gale me laga ke hi ghumegi, usko mangalsutra kehte hai, aur woh bhi black hi hota hai teri tarah.😆 Some other dialogues which were quite quirky and fun were:

"Bhaiya bola meri jaan nikal gayi"😆

"Jaan lene wala jaan bachayega...kyunki ab usko uski jaan mil gayi hai"❤️

"Tumpe main kabhi bharosa nahi kar sakti...lekin main tumpe har baat ke liye bharosa kar sakta hu, I don't know why"❤️

"Lute huye aashiqo ki baat hi yahi hoti hai, kambakht shaayar bade kamaal ke hote hai."😆

Moving on,

Jai & Bani - They are not, will not, cannot be lovers. There is nothing in the world that convinces me of that. The connection is unconvincing, the concern, the guidance is unconvincing. Aur ye chala hai uski madad karne, yeah right. Jitne speed se ye Nag rengte hue pahuchega na, uski double speed se Veer on his bike do bar pahunch jayega. Kar kya raha hai ye ladka? Inke beech doston wali chemistry ban sakti hai, if they work on it, but lovers wali bilkul nahi. And ye Bani ko kal "pehle pyaar ka ehsaas" huya tha na Jai ke liye. Agle hi din phittus. I mean dono ke interaction me na naye naye pyaar wali awkwardness hai, aur na koi aur feeling. Then why are they even pursuing this couple? Honestly, I only feel one thing for this jodi. In the past, Hriday was a safe haven for Naageshwari, because he was a Nag, she knew him well and so he was the Mr.Good Boy who can be taken to meet the family. But problem tab huya, jab Aakesh aa gaya. And for the first time as a shapeshifter, she felt a very foreign sentiment, something more desirable, more consuming. Something which she never felt with Hriday. But who she felt for - Aakesh, the cheel, her natural mortal enemy. Naagin instincts voted against it and so did human instincts. And ethically, having a joda and feeling for someone else, also she did not want to pursue. So she just covered it up with disgust, conditioned hate for cheels. But the awkwardness she felt with his gaze on her, how his eyes made her feel more beautiful and desirable is something she liked. She cannot deny that. Bani will go through the same. She will use Jai as a fallback to avoid Veer and his darkness, but Veer will not give up so easily.

Nag/Naagin transformation - I am rather surprised by Jai's transformation. I mean it felt like his human and serpent forms are in conflict with each other. Why? Why is it so difficult to transform? What is wrong with him? He died by murder, not curse, then what is wrong with him. Itna thakela aur weak Nag? Kuch samajh nahi aaya. On the other hand, there was a smooth transition for Bani into Adi Naagin. But why did she transform into Noor and then Adi Naagin, is something everybody asked? I have a theory.

Like I said, in a thread, I think Adi Naagin is setting up a trap for her Cheel enemies. Bani went to the police station who deleted the video. They warned Balwant, who sends Shukla's sons to kill Bani and the witness, who very conveniently turns out to be a Naagin. She also informs Veer about eyewitnesses, which weren't present there that night, as far as I know, so how did Bani know? Veer questions his brothers and Balwant gets to know. And then the cheels chase Naina into a cave and corner her and Bani. Bani very conveniently disappears and appears as Noor first and then Adi Naagin. This could be the beginning of her revenge plan to destroy the cheels for good, who destroyed her 10,000 years ago. Which would be a real googly, because here all think Adi Naagin does not remember, but in fact, she remembers all, and everything that happened till now, is an elaborate trap for her enemies - the Cheels.

Or if we go simply by what we saw till now, Bani in a bid to save Naina spontaneously transforms into a Naagin and undergoes her 1st transformation, and since she is a novice as a human, she transformed into Noor and then Adi Naagin. Which, IMO, is hard to believe. So I think, the first scenario could play out or hamara next week bahut bada popat banne wala hai.

Other Observations:

- Yaar, ek baat batao. Chote bhaiyon ko pata hai, that Singhanias engage in flesh trade. But Bade bhai Veer ko pata nahi. Why? Woh to bura hai, cheel hai? To uska batane se kya bigad jaayega? Ya phir jitna bura usse batate ho, usse kahin jyada hi acha hai woh, isiliye darr rahe ho Ballu ji. Kuch to solid panga hai is Ballu ka.

- Ye Tapish bhai, as in Veer ke bade bhai to Bani ke Meera di jaise hi hai. Muh me zubaan nahi hai dono ki hi. Upar se dono ke bhai and behen - as in Bani and Veer me, bhar bhar ke daring hai. Difference sirf itna hai that ek apni burai ko chupata nahi, aur dusri apni burai ko apnati nahi. Sahi couples banenge, bade aur chote.😉

Anyway, ranted for too long. This was my take for tonight. Do share your thoughts on the same. Would love to hear it.😊

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Damon embraced his darkness with pride and Elena hid the darkness within and did not want to acknowledge that the darkness within her connects with Damon's. Internally she wanted that darkness to consume her, but her humanity constantly pushed her towards denial. Similarly, the darkness of Aakesh was rather seductive for Naageshwari but she pushed him away because her humanity would not allow it. Basically, Naageshwari or Bani's steadfast denial stems from the fact that they constantly deny their darkest instincts the satisfaction they crave. Both know Aakesh and Veer can satisfy their darkest desires to a point it consumes them, so their humanity or good side is stopping them to succumb to it by covering it in hate or disgust. Naageshwari hated Aakesh because probably she wanted him. And a similar thing is happening to Bani.


As I pointed out, this is Bani's natural reaction to Veer, or rather Naageshwari's reaction to Aakesh. See, firstly both are animals, and animals can never have human instincts. But since they are shapeshifters, they by choice embraced humanity. On the surface, it shows Bani's disgust for Veer, but deep down she hates the fact that it is so easy for him to seduce the darkness or "buraai" that lays dormant within her. She is all the more disgusted because she wants it and cannot have it. She is not so openly bad as Veer is. Veer is okay being bad because there isn't any hypocrisy involved. Jo hai, jaisa hai, thik hai. Lekin Bani bhi ultimately Naagin hai. She is grey lekin usko woh baat accept nahi karni ki woh hai.


this two paragraph you nail it right there with perfection...masterstroke👏


I would like to add on nageshwari-bani both seduce the lightness in aakesh-veer and both the boys loves to consume it and also accept it thus this is one reason why they are in love and obsessed with their naagins and they openly accept it with a smile and eyes full of love and passion they want to consume the light into their soul that they don't mind being killed by the light which it did to aakesh


while aakesh-veer does seduce the darkness in nageshwari-bani but they don't want to consume it becos of their righteous path being lord shiva bhakhts at the same humanity but the darkness princes are seducing them igniting all kinds of desires in their soul and they want to avoid it thus they mask this hatred and denial on their face they might give 1000 deaths or they will take 10000 births but will not want to consume the darkness


but attraction love passion obsession all comes under one emotion and once these emotions replace their denial they won't be able to deny their feelings


yes both will burn together in passion

Edited by Mages - 5 years ago
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Posted: 5 years ago
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I was discussing this with a few friends yesterday that I got Damon and Elena vibe with Veer and Bani. Alot of things remain me alot of Damon and Elena I am a shipper and I root for them all the way like I am rooting for Veer and Bani here.


But honestly Stefan wasn't this bland compare to Jay.

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Also I think flashbacks sequences might show they want to keep the suspense factor explain why no precap this week.


Seems like Bani was setting up a trap all along.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CEOkcTfg0cz/?igshid=ogu494pdwh1m

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Originally posted by: Mages

this two paragraph you nail it right there with perfection...masterstroke👏

Thank you, my dear 😊

I would like to add on nageshwari-bani both seduce the lightness in aakesh-veer and both the boys loves to consume it and also accept it thus this is one reason why they are in love and obsessed with their naagins and they openly accept it with a smile and eyes full of love and passion they want to consume the light into their soul that they don't mind being killed by the light which it did to aakesh

I agree with you. Just as much as Veer/Aakesh's darkness is seductive, so is BaniNaageshwari's light. It's like both are attracted to the presence of something which is absent in each. Veer's darkness draws Bani, and Bani's light draws Veer. I don't feel anyone is meant to die in a literal sense. It will be the death of Bani and Veer's individuality in the truest sense, because Bani will take into some of Veer's darkness and Veer will take in some of Bani's light, becoming equals in the process.

while aakesh-veer does seduce the darkness in nageshwari-bani but they don't want to consume it becos of their righteous path being lord shiva bhakhts at the same humanity but the darkness princes are seducing them igniting all kinds of desires in their soul and they want to avoid it thus they mask this hatred and denial on their face they might give 1000 deaths or they will take 10000 births but will not want to consume the darkness

See, darkness isn't as bad as they are trying to portray here. Warna Maa Durga kabhi Maa Kali banti nahi right. And Shiv ji to phir bhi unse utna hi pyaar karte hai. No human can be purely white or black, they always have both. And there isn't a standard way of being a good person. People can use dark methods to do good things, and still, it will be called good as Krishna had said. Bani's nafrat for Veer is mostly because she hates what will happen if she succumbs to his darkness and what if she enjoys it.

but attraction love passion obsession all comes under one emotion and once these emotions replace their denial they won't be able to deny their feelings

The only person denying is Bani, Veer has completely embraced this obsession for Bani. Bani can run from it, but can't hide.

yes both will burn together in passion

True, they surely will.

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Originally posted by: AutumnColors

I was discussing this with a few friends yesterday that I got Damon and Elena vibe with Veer and Bani. Alot of things remain me alot of Damon and Elena I am a shipper and I root for them all the way like I am rooting for Veer and Bani here.

I said na, they have mixed TVD, Pyaar ki ye ek Kahaani and Naagin together. Veer and Bani are like Damon and Elena. Elena always denied herself the darkness within her, and Damon knew that. Elena always wanted to be good, not that Damon really wanted her to turn evil or anything. He just wanted her to understand that embracing your dark desires does not destroy her inherent goodness. Which is what I believe Veer was also trying to explain to Bani tonight.

But honestly Stefan wasn't this bland compare to Jay.

Stefan was just like Elena. Stefan also denied giving in to his urges, because he could not control the Ripper aspect of his personality. Stefan lacked self-control somewhere. But I do think Elena was stronger that way. She gave in, but not enough to control her. Jai and Stefan don't even match. But once Jai achieves his transformation, will he be like Stefan, who knows? And Bani, will she like Naageshwari avoid Veer, or will give in to his darkness for once.

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Originally posted by: AutumnColors

Also I think flashbacks sequences might show they want to keep the suspense factor explain why no precap this week.


Seems like Bani was setting up a trap all along.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CEOkcTfg0cz/?igshid=ogu494pdwh1m

I also believe that they don't want to give away the Naagin reveal so easily. They want us to stay confused about whether Bani remembers her past or Adi Naagin planned an elaborate trap. I want the latter you know. I just can't digest that in "Naagin", the Sarvashresth Adi Naagin is clueless about her identity.

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Thanks, dear. 😊

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Kya likhti ho libran!! Love it.

Absolute truth!!

I think Veer is more like Eric Northman from the Sookie Stackhouse books that was turned into a show called True Blood. Eric wanted Sookie, loved her so much but she chose the boring Bill at first. Akal thekane lagi toh loved Eric with all her love and passion.

Bani ke saath bhi yahi hoga. This was exactly how Sookie hated Eric and Eric fell head over heals in their first meeting.

The ultimate romance, full of fire and passion. That’s what I’m seeing.

Jay bhale hi beech Mein aaye, once his truth is outed, Bani will forget about him and accept her love for Veer!! BTW, Bill was an a- 🕳😂😂

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