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Posted: 5 years ago
#41

.Exactly.Even if they show the hero/heroine marrying another person they don't show physical relationship.its post lock down that KZK2 has failed in trps.before lockdown it had come back to 2 since sneha's birth track.After the new kamo introduced it had again entered top10 in a 2-3 weeks


Originally posted by: Abjini

KZK2 is not a failer in some tracks. You may have known that KZK2 have topped the charts in Naveen Babu track and also komolika 1 track. Actually KZK2 has revived starplus 8 pm slot. KZK2 have also been slot leader in 8 pm slot many times👍🏼

In choti sardarni always Avinash was meant to be the lead not Manav. Manav was killed in the beginning, Manav was not the lead of choti sardarni it was always Avinash who was supposed to be the lead of CS. The story of CS was always about Mehar and sarbatjit not Manav and Meher. The story of CS and KZK2 is not same the story of KZK2 is about star crossed love story between Anupre while the story of CS is about the journey of pregnant Mehar after her marriage👍🏼

About KZK2 the makers of KZK2 have always promoted Anurag as the hero of KZK2 not Bajaj. There was no mentioned of Bajaj in the beginning of the show. Anurag has been the lead and hero of Prena in kasauti2 from Naveen Babu track to Komolika track 1 so audience know Anurag as the hero and male lead of KZK2 and suddenly if the makers now began to show Bajaj as the male lead and hero of KZK2 then audience will not accept it because audience knew Anurag as the male lead and hero of KZK2 not Bajaj. The heroine falling for the other guy didn't work nowadays, nowadays audience wanted that the male lead and female lead to be in love with each other only , the audience didn't want both male lead and female lead to fall for other persons. The audience taste have changed now they didn't want any cross marriages between the male and female leads of a serial and also lovestory between the female lead and other guy is not accepted by audience nowadays👍🏼

Edited by jasminerahul - 5 years ago
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Posted: 5 years ago
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referring to both posts above i agree not all tracks of KZK2 have failed. NB track worked because it was fresh, the characters were written nicely & 2 friends become lovers. Komolika track 1 worked because 2 WIFES were fighting for their rights. Bajaj track 1 didn't work because, from what i gather, 2 MEN fighting for 1 WOMAN isn't accepted especially if the female is MARRIED to 1 of the men, regardless of how she got married. whether the audience would have accepted the other couple or not we'll never know because they lumped all of them together in 'ek chaat' which didn't work. (I'm not advocating either couple here). AnuPre have been written has anything but an ideal couple which is frustrating because they have chemistry & started out as really good friends. (they were better as friends in my opinion as the CV's made them lose their brains as lovers). As a neutral viewer outside of India i guess i can see the difference in TRP grabbing/losing tracks a little clearer. i can understand what the Indian audience prefers e.g. WIFES fighting for their rights, which is a trope used in almost all the shows. (again my opinions, mean no offence)

my issue is with they way drama's lack good stories or characters. if you won't offer the audience anything new then how can you be so sure it won't work. watching the same thing day in & out programs viewers minds to expect only that & nothing more. (again my opinion).

also the idea of hero & heroine is too restrictive, it pigeon holes the characters & the story hence why the shows continuously go in loops with uniting, separation & reuniting. it gets boring. i doubt the actors love it either. other different content shows work too, of course with added masala but they do. Choti Sardaarni, Shakti, Barrister Babu, Anupama etc. I'm just saying the writers should try to offer something a little different with good female characters. (you're free to agree to disagree)

p.s thank you for putting your thoughts across in a nice & friendly manner. it's lovely to be able to have a freindly conversation regarding KZK on IF 🤗


Edited by oa2019 - 5 years ago
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Posted: 5 years ago
#43

All I learnt from kzk 2 audience reviews is that if the leads have chemistry they can watch any amount of shit between them . That's exactly the reason why kzk2 failed. Bec the makers also believed that they dont need a story..thy just need to have 2 good looking people out there...... petty nok jhok and bakwas scenes between them which doesnt even qualify as scenes between lovers. 2 years and no normal conversation between the leads ? That's how shallow they are with their characters.

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Posted: 5 years ago
#44

Originally posted by: Abjini

KZK2 is not a failer in some tracks. You may have known that KZK2 have topped the charts in Naveen Babu track and also komolika 1 track. Actually KZK2 has revived starplus 8 pm slot. KZK2 have also been slot leader in 8 pm slot many times👍🏼

In choti sardarni always Avinash was meant to be the lead not Manav. Manav was killed in the beginning, Manav was not the lead of choti sardarni it was always Avinash who was supposed to be the lead of CS. The story of CS was always about Mehar and sarbatjit not Manav and Meher. The story of CS and KZK2 is not same the story of KZK2 is about star crossed love story between Anupre while the story of CS is about the journey of pregnant Mehar after her marriage👍🏼

About KZK2 the makers of KZK2 have always promoted Anurag as the hero of KZK2 not Bajaj. There was no mentioned of Bajaj in the beginning of the show. Anurag has been the lead and hero of Prena in kasauti2 from Naveen Babu track to Komolika track 1 so audience know Anurag as the hero and male lead of KZK2 and suddenly if the makers now began to show Bajaj as the male lead and hero of KZK2 then audience will not accept it because audience knew Anurag as the male lead and hero of KZK2 not Bajaj. The heroine falling for the other guy didn't work nowadays, nowadays audience wanted that the male lead and female lead to be in love with each other only , the audience didn't want both male lead and female lead to fall for other persons. The audience taste have changed now they didn't want any cross marriages between the male and female leads of a serial and also lovestory between the female lead and other guy is not accepted by audience nowadays👍🏼


Beg to differ...Naveen Babu was a Sudden insertion in the track but it went well wid audience becoz his personality or character profile was no threat to Onu

But Bajaj was the only character which took kzk to new heights...His track was a surprise Element and a sudden twist in the history of kzk1...and that is what inpired Makers to Take a plunge again...


Ekta made it very clear in her launch n IVs back then that all 4 characters would remain Same..and essence of the story same...It's very common that ppl live together and Sacrifice for one another but to be separated and yet to sacrifice for one another is a rare thing which kzk is all about.


The youth audience (mostly School goers) failed to see the depth of the story and they arrived at their own conclusions..They have no Problem with Komo as much as wid Bajaj..Clearly they have hooked up to the wrong show and the clash has indeed led to the mess that the show is in today.I


I remb ekta being spammed abt Bajajs entry and she kept saying I am still working on it and we wil surely let u kno


All 4 charcs are pivitol .All are parallel leads only the time of entry is spaced out....


Also Ekta rotates her tracks..pls notice her style..after 4/5mnths the track focus changes along with characters // new directors and Writers. It is more cost effective and also She feels new writers/ directors wil infuse New ideas and better energy.

This is her trademark from Day 1.

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Posted: 5 years ago
#45

Bajaj1 track was not a total failure.Till then the show was in top5.But after prerish wedding it was out of top5.but still it was in top 10.During that track anupre fans stopped watching the show n even signed petition to end the show.Even mot of the anupre fans left the forum saying that kzk ended 4 them. Shakti had something new to offer.But in shakti forum ppl started bashing the show after a point of time esp when the leads got separated n it was out of top 10.


Originally posted by: oa2019

referring to both posts above i agree not all tracks of KZK2 have failed. NB track worked because it was fresh, the characters were written nicely & 2 friends become lovers. Komolika track 1 worked because 2 WIFES were fighting for their rights. Bajaj track 1 didn't work because, from what i gather, 2 MEN fighting for 1 WOMAN isn't accepted especially if the female is MARRIED to 1 of the men, regardless of how she got married. whether the audience would have accepted the other couple or not we'll never know because they lumped all of them together in 'ek chaat' which didn't work. (I'm not advocating either couple here). AnuPre have been written has anything but an ideal couple which is frustrating because they have chemistry & started out as really good friends. (they were better as friends in my opinion as the CV's made them lose their brains as lovers). As a neutral viewer outside of India i guess i can see the difference in TRP grabbing/losing tracks a little clearer. i can understand what the Indian audience prefers e.g. WIFES fighting for their rights, which is a trope used in almost all the shows. (again my opinions, mean no offence)

my issue is with they way drama's lack good stories or characters. if you won't offer the audience anything new then how can you be so sure it won't work. watching the same thing day in & out programs viewers minds to expect only that & nothing more. (again my opinion).

also the idea of hero & heroine is too restrictive, it pigeon holes the characters & the story hence why the shows continuously go in loops with uniting, separation & reuniting. it gets boring. i doubt the actors love it either. other different content shows work too, of course with added masala but they do. Choti Sardaarni, Shakti, Barrister Babu, Anupama etc. I'm just saying the writers should try to offer something a little different with good female characters. (you're free to agree to disagree)

p.s thank you for putting your thoughts across in a nice & friendly manner. it's lovely to be able to have a freindly conversation regarding KZK on IF 🤗


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Posted: 5 years ago
#46

Exactly.In my opinion the worst show is the top1 show(U can guess).The hero keeps insulting the heroine n their relationship is the worst.As u said yet too many cute nok jhoks n shower romance as if nothing happened in their lives.


Originally posted by: _charu_

All I learnt from kzk 2 audience reviews is that if the leads have chemistry they can watch any amount of shit between them . That's exactly the reason why kzk2 failed. Bec the makers also believed that they dont need a story..thy just need to have 2 good looking people out there...... petty nok jhok and bakwas scenes between them which doesnt even qualify as scenes between lovers. 2 years and no normal conversation between the leads ? That's how shallow they are with their characters.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: gees


Beg to differ...Naveen Babu was a Sudden insertion in the track but it went well wid audience becoz his personality or character profile was no threat to Onu

But Bajaj was the only character which took kzk to new heights...His track was a surprise Element and a sudden twist in the history of kzk1...and that is what inpired Makers to Take a plunge again...


Ekta made it very clear in her launch n IVs back then that all 4 characters would remain Same..and essence of the story same...It's very common that ppl live together and Sacrifice for one another but to be separated and yet to sacrifice for one another is a rare thing which kzk is all about.


The youth audience (mostly School goers) failed to see the depth of the story and they arrived at their own conclusions..They have no Problem with Komo as much as wid Bajaj..Clearly they have hooked up to the wrong show and the clash has indeed led to the mess that the show is in today.I


I remb ekta being spammed abt Bajajs entry and she kept saying I am still working on it and we wil surely let u kno


All 4 charcs are pivitol .All are parallel leads only the time of entry is spaced out....


Also Ekta rotates her tracks..pls notice her style..after 4/5mnths the track focus changes along with characters // new directors and Writers. It is more cost effective and also She feels new writers/ directors wil infuse New ideas and better energy.

This is her trademark from Day 1.


In reality though more than bajaj being threat to anurag its opposite now 😆


And sorry to disappoint you there many people who are not school goers including myself that wants to see different story than season 1.


Also the essence that we are talking about is not related to prerna bajaj its about Anurag and prerna being stars cross lovers.


I am sure she meant well when she said its reboot and not gisa pita remake.


And if we talk about conclusion then even people rooting for other side of the fence looks like school goers only who is expecting same remake. Neither was anurag prerna promised neither bajaj prerna from any of her amazing IV. For i care she should have kept viraj positive and continue her seperatation saga.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: BombayGirl10


In reality though more than bajaj being threat to anurag its opposite now 😆


And sorry to disappoint you there many people who are not school goers including myself that wants to see different story than season 1.


Also the essence that we are talking about is not related to prerna bajaj its about Anurag and prerna being stars cross lovers.


I am sure she meant well when she said its reboot and not gisa pita remake.


And if we talk about conclusion then even people rooting for other side of the fence looks like school goers only who is expecting same remake. Neither was anurag prerna promised neither bajaj prerna from any of her amazing IV. For i care she should have kept viraj positive and continue her seperatation saga.

U answered the qtn yourself 😆

Its all about perception and expectation

Truth is only the makers own the show and they wil run the story the way they want which was v apparent post leap but due to Covid things went haywire.


Period 👍🏼

Edited by gees - 5 years ago
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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: gees

U answered the qtn yourself 😆

Its all about perception and expectation

Truth is only the makers own the show and they wil run the story the way they want which was v apparent post leap but due to Covid things went haywire.


Period 👍🏼


Oh i know 🙂 what i answered certainly.


I was just boggled with school goers (young youths) perception which was labeled as failure in your post. After all its all about above bolded words right be it school goers college goers or anyone for that matter.


And i am not sure if makers are running the story now i think someone else is atleast thats what i keep hearing now. Not complaining though i am enjoying it.


Have a good day👍🏼

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Posted: 5 years ago
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i agree the makers will do what they want to regardless of what viewers want or expect it's just a big shame that they don't try at all.

They're promoting AnuPre as star- crossed lovers or soulmates but they've written them so poorly they don't come across as either. They're just coasting on their popularity & chemistry & not even giving them a solid relationship. This show is supposed to be about their epic love saga but they have totally ruined it. There's no trust, respect or communication between them, you'd think if they were MADE for each other this is the least they would have.

i feel for the AnuPre fans as the CV's have turned their love into a joke. i don't see them re-uniting ever! they way Anurag's supposed nature is written, a loving & caring person 😳, once he finds out the pain he caused Prerna & CP then if even Prerna forgives him, logically, he should never be able to forgive himself. (but the CV's will u-turn on that too, as per convenience) it's a catch 22! they've trapped themselves in a hole just to grap some TRP's, it's sad 😭 (not that it was stellar before 😆)

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