Conspiracy Theory 1 - Siya and Kabir in it together - Page 3

I totally agree with you on both. Kabir and Siya are not as straightforward as they are being presented. Siya could definitely be behind the entire illegal business. One thing that bothers me is that Aryan and Ishaani are shown to be these mean spirited, negative personalities, while Siya is as straight as can be. That makes no sense. If anyone here watched Race 3, they'll know what I mean when I say the so-called twins hated Sikander yet stood by him when they realized their straightforward dad's identity. It seems to be the same here. (That movie was bad but I just recalled the plot and realized it was similar.)

As for Kabir, I feel he's trying to take some personal vengeance. Else how can any police department or even RAW sanction the use of a civilian? In fact, why isn't anyone checking in on Kabir. What if it's all an act? He's pretending to be a secret agent, but actually has his personal agenda.

Both may not be in it together, but they are both suspicious.

Originally posted by: masked

Looks like the drama is gearing itself up for the wedding climax.It seems there's gonna be a series of exposes next week regarding the three characters-VR/Kabir & Riddhima.

Let's see, I feel its too soon for a wedding to happen. It has been only 2 weeks. Aise kaise shaadi karwa denge. It's very abrupt.

Getting back to the discussion Vansh agar Sher hai toh Kabir bhi Sava-Sher hai.Vansh agar ek Mahir Khiladi hai toh Kabir bhi Khiladiyon ka Khiladi hain.I know that some people on the forum under-estimated Kabir's intelligence and they were probably right bcoz Kabir did not get much to show his skills in the last few episodes.But today he displayed an uncanny ability of saving his love Ridzi forget the fact that his love is just a drama.

Oh ji theher jao baalike, mera complain yahi tha, that Kabir should be at par with Vansh, when it comes to intelligence, otherwise what type of an agent he is. 2 weeks me pehli baar dhang ka move dikhaya hai from Kabir's part, warna hum sab ka bharosa uth jata from Kabir. Dono ke skills ko barabar dikhana zaruri hai. Ye Dhoom series to hain nahi, jaha villain hero se jyaada acha lage.

VR bcoz of being the Mafia-Boss has the requisite experience dealing with the run-ins of law enforcement agencies on the hunt for him & hi-tech Gadgets deployed by the Intel agencies/CBI to infiltrate VR''s Mafia-Network.Hence VR's keen eyes could easily detect that Hi-Tech Transmitter masqueraded as the Make-Up Kit for Ridzi.

Agreed with your point here.

The highlight of the episode today was that Kabir had the right intuition of Ridzi's predicament.He sensed that Ridzi was in a greater danger & that his Expose/Destroy VR mission has been compromised.Call it Ganpati Bappa's Blessings for Ridzi or Kabir's timely intelligence that he covered up his actual voice using the Hand-kerchief trick we so often get to see used by shady characters/even heroes sometimes in ITV or Movies.

Iss scene ka sabse jyaada irritating bit thi Riddhima. Apni padi nahi hai.🤔 Ye soch rahi hai ke Kabir phas jayega agar kuch bola to. Is she nuts. I felt like, behen wo CBI agent hai, agar 2 saal se Vansh ko pakad nahi paaya, to bande ko credit do ki aaj tak Vansh ke haathon se mara bhi nahi hai wo. Hadh hai, ladki mujhe bahut irritate karti hai, I swear.😡

This proves that Kabir's thinking operates on roughly the same wavelength like that of VR if not greater than VR's razor-sharp wit.VR is quite observant & has got expert mind-reading/body-language skills.He's quite adept at detecting the Fright/ or any other emotion within a person specially Ridzi.Whereas we still don't know much regarding Kabir he did display his smartness when he removed the Ridhbir photos/memories from Ridzi's Hostel Room.

Vansh is solid as a suspicious mafia boss, that is exactly what he should be doing. But Kabir ko creatives emphasize nahi karte, why? It is not just Riddhima and Vansh's story. Riddhima came into this mess, thanks to Kabir, and now Kabir is not highlighted. His skills as an adept CBI agent is flawed and sloppy, which should not be the case. Bahut hi basic cheez nahi dikha rahe, that both hero and villain should be at par in terms of being each other's nemesis.

Kabir deflected VR's suspicion from Ridzi to Aryan.It was quite a neat & timely trick.That's why Kabir had to arrive at the VR Mansion in disguise next week to save his lady spy Ridzi.

Ye kaam sahi kiya bande ne, Aryan ko boiling water me daal diya. Lekin if Riddhima is saved by a timely intervention by Almighty, what will Vansh do with Aryan? considering for him everything is his family. That will be "very interesting" to watch.

Now I am beginning to understand as to why VR married Ridzi perhaps due to this 2 reasons-

1- Though VR came close but could not discover Ridzi's Spy Secret due to Kabir's machinations.Not willing to give up VR devised an ingenious plan forcing Ridzi with no option but to marry him perhaps to prove his trust.

Ye logic iss waqt apply hota hai ki nahi, I am not sure. Vansh ke dictionary me kisi ko punish karna is murder. He will not take such a decision. Usko apni nazar ke saamne rakhne ke liye, he can make her a physiotherapist, but not wife. Too risky, considering him being a businessman cum mafia boss.

2-Kabir knows that VR is suspicious of Ridzi & hence his operation VR may go for a toss if he does not take any remedial measures.Hence Kabir might have somehow persuaded Ridzi to marry VR since as his wife/Queen Ridzi gets ready-made access to the secrets of the VR mansion which could help bring VR within the arms of law.

I beg to differ. Kabir had already told Riddhima to create a space in Vansh's life. To get as close as possible, by any and all means. I am sure he would have considered marriage also. "Tumhe mere dushman ka banna hoga" means what then?

3-Unavoidable circumstances call it the Hand of God resulted in the Ridhansh wedding drama.

Ye sabse jyaada suitable hai when it comes to ITV shows. Agar baat shaadi ki hai, to kuch bhi drama ho sakta hai.

I am more in tune with the 1st point rather than the below-mentioned 2 points.VR is ruthless & does not trust Ridzi at all.He has 24/7 gaze on Ridzi.VR knows that Ridzi is a planted spy operating on someone's behest that is Kabir.Kabir is the master-planner behind all this spy game which VR desperately wants to find out.Its like a chess battle between the 2 titans.

I agree with your points, but considering ITV, somewhere they have to shift Vansh's suspicions elsewhere otherwise Riddhima will not be able to come close to him. Somewhere, Vansh has to let her in by his free will, and that is not possible with Vansh always suspecting her. Kuch to aisa zarur hoga that Vansh ka suspicion will be removed. Vansh Riddhima ko punish karne ke liye shaadi karega, is something I can't foresee right now. I may be wrong, but let's see.

Originally posted by: ProfMcGonagall

I totally agree with you on both. Kabir and Siya are not as straightforward as they are being presented. Siya could definitely be behind the entire illegal business. One thing that bothers me is that Aryan and Ishaani are shown to be these mean spirited, negative personalities, while Siya is as straight as can be. That makes no sense. If anyone here watched Race 3, they'll know what I mean when I say the so-called twins hated Sikander yet stood by him when they realized their straightforward dad's identity. It seems to be the same here. (That movie was bad but I just recalled the plot and realized it was similar.)

Exactly. Siya is not as straightforward as she seems to be. Aryan and Ishani are straight on the face bad and greedy who want power and don't like the attention Vansh commands in business and home. But Siya is not at all as simple as she looks. Wheelchair ke bahane sab par nazar rakhti hai wo. And Vansh ke protection ka kitna advantage wo leti hai, we don't know.

As for Kabir, I feel he's trying to take some personal vengeance. Else how can any police department or even RAW sanction the use of a civilian? In fact, why isn't anyone checking in on Kabir. What if it's all an act? He's pretending to be a secret agent, but actually has his personal agenda.

Ye logic to behen movies me bhi apply nahi hota. Just pick up any spy movies, civilians are trained and used as spy - be it Raazi, be it Hero - Love story of a spy. There Alia Bhatt, Preity Zinta were civilians trained to be spies. Yahaan Riddhima ko dekha hai, aisi spy ho to desh ka kuch nahi ho sakta.

Both may not be in it together, but they are both suspicious.

True. either/or situation ho sakta hai.

Ooh!! I like your conspiracy theories TM!! Really cool and once you’ve pointed it out, I could see it. Fantastic!!

Originally posted by: Namita-M

Ooh!! I like your conspiracy theories TM!! Really cool and once you’ve pointed it out, I could see it. Fantastic!!

Thanks, @Namita-M. Appreciate it.😊

Originally posted by: libran90

Ye logic to behen movies me bhi apply nahi hota. Just pick up any spy movies, civilians are trained and used as spy - be it Raazi, be it Hero - Love story of a spy. There Alia Bhatt, Preity Zinta were civilians trained to be spies. Yahaan Riddhima ko dekha hai, aisi spy ho to desh ka kuch nahi ho sakta.

Both those examples actually don't apply.

In Raazi, Alia Bhatt was recruited by the RAW head and given a full training. She didn't go through psychological evaluation. That was it.

In Hero, Sunny Deol gave Preity Zinta full training and had to get permission.

Here Riddhima wasn't given any training and Kabir didn't take any permissions.

Originally posted by: ProfMcGonagall

Both those examples actually don't apply.

In Raazi, Alia Bhatt was recruited by the RAW head and given a full training. She didn't go through psychological evaluation. That was it.

In Hero, Sunny Deol gave Preity Zinta full training and had to get permission.

Here Riddhima wasn't given any training and Kabir didn't take any permissions.

That's exactly the point I am trying to make. They were civilians recruited by these agencies and trained for the job to get secret information. Even films show it in a realistic-looking way. But in this show, neither of them happened. Where is the guarantee that all this is happening by the CBI and not at the behest of a mafia's personal secret force? Everything was so rushed. I actually meant it in this way.

Originally posted by: libran90

That's exactly the point I am trying to make. They were civilians recruited by these agencies and trained for the job to get secret information. Even films show it in a realistic-looking way. But in this show, neither of them happened. Where is the guarantee that all this is happening by the CBI and not at the behest of a mafia's personal secret force? Everything was so rushed. I actually meant it in this way.

Ah ok. I misunderstood. Then yes! I totally agree with you.

What bothers me most is that Kabir is supposedly a secret agent whether CBI or RAW. But he isn't answerable to anyone. No one has called him questioning him on Neha's death or on using Riddhima or anything.

Originally posted by: ProfMcGonagall

Ah ok. I misunderstood. Then yes! I totally agree with you.

What bothers me most is that Kabir is supposedly a secret agent whether CBI or RAW. But he isn't answerable to anyone. No one has called him questioning him on Neha's death or on using Riddhima or anything.

Exactly! Even for a thriller, it's supremely strange.

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