Mahabharat Retelecast Discussion Thread 4 - Page 60

Originally posted by: deepikagupta9

Actually nothing had been said about duryodhana's married life.

But 4 me d person who give orders to disrobe a woman & pass nasty comments on her in court who had done no wrong 2 him .

Vo kitna bhi bada dharmatma kyu na ho apni biwi ke liye meri liye 2 shaitaan hi hai . Duryodhana would never had appreciated d person who is helping draupadi or pandavas be it was his wife also .

I had same feelings 4 Yudi that's why love 2 call him adharma raj.

Not in the epic per say, but Oriya Mahabharata puts him in high regards regarding his married life. They put Duryodhan as a great husband. In fact despite being the land of Krishna, Duryodhan isn't considered a bad person there. He is highly respected as the son in law of the land who was the best husband their daughter could get.

Folklores have projected him as a great husband as well

The disrobe and nasty comments were by Karna not by Duryodhan himself (excluding the thighs shoving of Duryodhan). Not that I am justifying him, but he shouldn't bear the burnt of something he didn't do.

I never said that he was a good man, no one can say, the point was if his wife could have supported Draupadi

Vikarna supported Draupadi and it's never mentioned that he had anything bad for him. I don't think we can be sure Bhanumati supporting Draupadi, would have brought her some misfortune

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Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism

No not mentioned

if dinosaurs are not mention how come they actually exist in the world🤔

Originally posted by: Mages

if dinosaurs are not mention how come they actually exist in the world🤔

Obviously the people back then didn't know about the Jurassic and Triassic eras

I didn't get it are you being sarcastic here

Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism

Not in the epic per say, but Oriya Mahabharata puts him in high regards regarding his married life. They put Duryodhan as a great husband. In fact despite being the land of Krishna, Duryodhan isn't considered a bad person there. He is highly respected as the son in law of the land who was the best husband their daughter could get.

Folklores have projected him as a great husband as well

The disrobe and nasty comments were by Karna not by Duryodhan himself (excluding the thighs shoving of Duryodhan). Not that I am justifying him, but he shouldn't bear the burnt of something he didn't do.

I never said that he was a good man, no one can say, the point was if his wife could have supported Draupadi

Vikarna supported Draupadi and it's never mentioned that he had anything bad for him. I don't think we can be sure Bhanumati supporting Draupadi, would have brought her some misfortune

I said we don't know d status of his married life , folktale 2 bahut kuch kehti hai . Draupadi's vastraharan is not a folktale , in original text draupadi dint abuse duryodhana still he dragged her in dice game, it already clear d picture what duryodhana think of woman . Draupadi did nothing 1 duryodhana then he dragged her 2 extreme level , I can only imagine about Bhanumati , even she was abducted not with her will .

See d result of karma in duryodhana case he dint respected some else's daughter , his own daughter lakshmana had to pay d price of his karma thou sambh was completely wrong in it , balram 2 was wrong to protect him. We say life move in circle what we do 2 others comes back 2 us only.

I m not giving benefit of doubt 2 Pandavas they were also equally responsible 4 Draupadi's condition.

Jo log duryodhana ke sympathies karte hai vo ye bhi kehte hai draupadi provoked him by passing mean comment on drithrashtra ki aandhe ka putra andha , jo ki tv version hai.

We can blame arjun, karna, bheem, Shakuni , bheesam etc. but no one can prove duryodhana a saint .

Regarding vikarn , day 2 day life Kahi bhi mentioned nhi hai.

Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism

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Obviously the people back then didn't know about the Jurassic and Triassic eras

I didn't get it are you being sarcastic here

not sarcastic just curious to know becos my atheist hubby drop this question last night i have no answer🤷‍♀️

its really difficult to debate with a atheist and that guy has lots of knowledge in religious prayers purans ved grant but yet a atheist and doesn't believe in it

such a weird person he is,he comes to temple as mark of respect to elders but does not pray and stand in a corner🤦🏻‍♀️

I want 2 know what great deeds kripacharya did that he became Chiranjeevi.

Originally posted by: deepikagupta9

I said we don't know d status of his married life , folktale 2 bahut kuch kehti hai . Draupadi's vastraharan is not a folktale , in original text draupadi dint abuse duryodhana still he dragged her in dice game, it already clear d picture what duryodhana think of woman . Draupadi did nothing 1 duryodhana then he dragged her 2 extreme level , I can only imagine about Bhanumati , even she was abducted not with her will .

See d result of karma in duryodhana case he dint respected some else's daughter , his own daughter lakshmana had to pay d price of his karma thou sambh was completely wrong in it , balram 2 was wrong to protect him. We say life move in circle what we do 2 others comes back 2 us only.

I m not giving benefit of doubt 2 Pandavas they were also equally responsible 4 Draupadi's condition.

Jo log duryodhana ke sympathies karte hai vo ye bhi kehte hai draupadi provoked him by passing mean comment on drithrashtra ki aandhe ka putra andha , jo ki tv version hai.

We can blame arjun, karna, bheem, Shakuni , bheesam etc. but no one can prove duryodhana a saint .

Regarding vikarn , day 2 day life Kahi bhi mentioned nhi hai.

When did I say that Duryodhan was a saint?? No one can ever say that. He waa gelm The discussion was if Bhanumati could have saved Draupadi or not. I think she could have. What he did to Draupadi was unacceptable that doesn't mean that he would behave in similar manner to all the women. People have different set of behaviours for those they consider their own when compared to the rest of the world.

Mahabharata clearly mentions that the public of Hastinapur liked him, so definitely he wasn't a villian for the public.

Mahabharata doesn't even mention the name Bhanumati it is from Sreemad Bhagwatam. And abduction of woman was a way of marriage in that era. Arjun abducted Subhadra without her choice.

Similarly the women helping Draupadi isn't mentioned in the text either, that is from the south Indian retellings. So shall we believe on South Indian and Completely disregard Oriya retelling?

He did not scold Vikarna when he tried to support Draupadi. Kam se kam us time pe to kuchh bolta usko? Are we just to assume that he had made Vikarna's life a hell without anything of that sort being mentioned?

I am simply saying that nothing mentioned in the texts actually suggests that he would have made the life of his wife bad had she supported Draupadi

Originally posted by: deepikagupta9

I want 2 know what great deeds kripacharya did that he became Chiranjeevi.

In Udyoga Parva of the Mahabharata, Bhishmadeclared Kripa as a mighty Maharathi, or a warrior capable of fighting 60,000 warriors simultaneously; circumspect in his mastery of all forms of weapons and combat skills.[5]

As noted in sloka given below, he is one of the seven Chiranjivin (the "immortals" who are to remain alive throughout the Kali Yuga.

I found this on kripacharya👍🏼

he is remain alive through kalyug which means he is still alive

Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism

When did I say that Duryodhan was a saint?? No one can ever say that. He waa gelm The discussion was if Bhanumati could have saved Draupadi or not. I think she could have. What he did to Draupadi was unacceptable that doesn't mean that he would behave in similar manner to all the women. People have different set of behaviours for those they consider their own when compared to the rest of the world.

Mahabharata clearly mentions that the public of Hastinapur liked him, so definitely he wasn't a villian for the public.

Mahabharata doesn't even mention the name Bhanumati it is from Sreemad Bhagwatam. And abduction of woman was a way of marriage in that era. Arjun abducted Subhadra without her choice.

Similarly the women helping Draupadi isn't mentioned in the text either, that is from the south Indian retellings. So shall we believe on South Indian and Completely disregard Oriya retelling?

He did not scold Vikarna when he tried to support Draupadi.

I am simply saying that nothing mentioned in the texts actually suggests that he would have made the life of his wife bad had she supported Draupadi

Subhadra arjun abduction was lord krishna's plan not arjun ,even in South they r said 2 love each other . Bhanumati was abducted from her swayamber by duryodhana with help of karn after she rejects him. Duryodhana being a good husband is considered as a folktale.

No don't tell me duryodhana also had a lovestory in South with Bhanumati . Infact Indonesia version Bhanumati was in love with arjun

Giving example of arjun abduction subhadra can't help duryodhana in this case also .

I agree sabke ke pass goodness hoti hain but just that I don't see goodness in duryodhana any act. I did tried 2 find good & positive qualities of duryodhana but sadly could not find.

I do read people compare duryodhana with raavan but thou raavan 2 had many bad qualities, he was a rapist & abducter etc but still there r things in him which made him different from other.

I don't understand in what bases people compare raavan with duryodhana, who is 10 times stronger character than duryodhana