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Originally posted by: toothbrush13

And some of my own random thoughts...

In the past few years it has been amusing to see how some people react when confronted with mortality. Around the time of my nana's funeral, this one society-aunty went on and on about how the air felt different and she could feel all this noor around her... it was really just the whole box of agarbatti someone overzealously lit on fire in the backyard lol. But we never told her that. And then there's all the anecdotes people think are meaningful, but really just make you feel worse. The "I knew something was wrong"ers. The "the family didn't do enough"ers... Endless numbers of people who feel like they want to help, and go about it in some interesting ways.

There are always so many people willing to give advice on what you should have done, but not how you were supposed to reasonably go about doing it. It is incredibly hard to help someone if they themselves cannot accept that they need it. Which fits into a greater societal problem around the taboos of not only admitting that you're not doing well, but continuing to admit it and engaging in care for as long as it may last and beyond. And they can have people there for them 24/7, who prod and pry and provide every resource under the sun, even force them to seek professional medical help, but until their inner voice accepts it, you can try for years and only continue to regress. And of course with that there's the chance of being pushed away for coming too close... it's a delicate balance and different for everyone. I don't have an answer on what the right thing to do is, because I don't believe there is any one answer... and there is certainly no one magical person who can fix another, no matter how hard they may try or would like to believe they can.

Given the sudden and public nature of this death all of these voices are louder and will likely persist longer. But in some ways it is interesting to observe all of the manifestations of grief... Shock, anger, denial, blaming, bargaining etc... all on display.

Beautifully put. There is so much to reflect upon regarding human nature here.

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I am not sure if you remember me, It is nice to see old members here

While some posts like Karan Veer Mehra, Mahesh, Tabrez, Gattu, Shraddha, Sushant's sister are emotional and heartfelt

Some posts like Vikas, Kangana, Abhinav Kashyap, Sonu Nigam seem to be serving their own purpose

Vikas seems to be a person who does not think before posting, this is so disrespectful not just for Ankita but also her close ones. He had once uploaded an intimate picture of two co-stars sleeping on each other's shoulder, which disrespected their privacy. He had deleted that post and I hope he deletes this too

https://twitter.com/pinkvillatelly/status/1273679707654033410?s=21

He was so encouraging and positive

Originally posted by: AreYaar

If there is no actual legal proof about this, then personally holding KJo and other bolly elites responsible for Sushant’s death is mob mentality....that only leads to knee jerk senseless violence. Not any real solutions.

Cliques exist in literally every part of society. Who exactly gets to force people to stop having preferences and cliques? Can anyone here actually produce actual proof of what KJo said to Sushant to drive him to this? No they can’t.

This is too abstract a situation to leave to the online mob to litigate. I personally don’t condone such mob tactics.

And if anyone thinks that a result of this will be that KJo will stop promoting star kids, they are kidding themselves. It’s his money and he will always have the right to spend it the way he wants. Maybe the most that could happen is him gossiping a little less about outsiders. If anything, this will likely make bolly insiders close ranks and exclude outsiders even more since they will feel targeted by social media mobs.

If you think this will overhaul this cut-throat industry, I would say that’s idealistic. This is actually more a cautionary tale about how anyone joining this industry needs more mental fortitude and emotional support to prevail.

No, I am not talking about a mindset change. Star kids will always be propped up and handed their careers on a platter. I was thinking about something more actionable - like an end to blind items or atleast people thinking twice before paying journos to post blind items that cross a line - I am talking about shit like Me Too allegations against Sushant and Mukesh Chhabra.

I was thinking about directors who cast outsiders to grow a spine or conscience before unceremoniously kicking them out after contracts have been signed and replacing them with star kids overnight due to strong arming by the parents and mentors of the latter.

After all that has happened - the police investigating production houses, the severe criticism - the online mob piling on and the industry folks speaking out about certain practices (they just stopped short of taking names, but made it pretty obvious who all they are referring to..) , Kya pata, maybe even those favoring star kids - be it producers or.. ummm.. their parents - will stick to just that - propping up their mentees and kids- and not ruthlessly try to push outsiders out from projects, or pay money to generate bad PR against them

Yes, there won't be any proof found .. because there most probably hasn't been any legal crime committed by anyone. His death started with intense discussions about need for mental health awareness (esp in entertainment industry) in media but has been surpassed by other discussions. Because it is easier to get angry about things you can watch and read about (for example, people digging up old malicious articles , news snippets and videos of him being ignored and ridiculed)

Found this old edit by chance.....seems like this picture is from the days when he was shooting DBB, right?

Originally posted by: AreYaar

Found this old edit by chance.....seems like this picture is from the days when he was shooting DBB, right?

I remember this picture I had also made an edit on this

https://www.facebook.com/PriyaCreationz/photos/a.229284377127805/689802941075944/?type=3

Originally posted by: AreYaar

Beautifully put. There is so much to reflect upon regarding human nature here.

Awww thanks. I see so many posts about "reaching out" but there is so much more to the process of treating any chronic condition than the average person may realize. Accepting and admitting you need help, seeking help, committing to being helped, developing a plan and then continually modifying it to better suit your needs, reflecting on and maintaining progress that is achieved, preventing relapses/exacerbations, and so much more... and all of it requires a lot of support, resources, and motivation, all three of which can be lacking or even directly affected by the condition itself. Encouraging people to reach out to others can be a great first step, but there is a long way to go after that. It's also a lot more nuanced than just "pick up the phone and call me"... an emotionally open dialogue can take a long time to build and specific needs vary for each person. Motivational interviewing techniques can help, but your average friend may not be well-versed in it or not in the right place themselves to help. A lot of what I am seeing online is either empty posturing or people ripping apart others offers to help (which may be genuine, who knows)... and it's just not productive.

I feel like caregiver burden is another thing that is looked down upon in desi communities, but it is so very real and often goes unaddressed...

But I'm pretty sure these topics are unlikely to be considered on a wide scale, as the focus remains on twitter trends and burning effigies. :/

So I don't know why but I decided to look at more articles related to this on the site I linked earlier (breakingboom, which I hadn't heard of before) and all of them are just as poorly written... but also have so much detail in them... not sure what to make of it. Anyhow, it made me look into his more recent friends and boy they were definitely high on that alternate dimension parallel universe thing... no clue what they are going on about in so many posts, and I don't think it's a vocabulary or reading comprehension issue on my part. I'm not here to judge but it is certainly... interesting... I'll just say that death as a means to traverse through planes is not a thought that resonates with me.

Honestly kinda wish I hadn't gone looking... I should just stay in my lane.

Edit: I also don't know why I'm not just candid, I don't really care who is reading this lol. Their reaction to his death is weird and I don't like to judge how people grieve but I am definitely judging right now. It's creepy and it makes it seem like he would have been contemplating it for a while. :/

Originally posted by: toothbrush13

So I don't know why but I decided to look at more articles related to this on the site I linked earlier (breakingboom, which I hadn't heard of before) and all of them are just as poorly written... but also have so much detail in them... not sure what to make of it. Anyhow, it made me look into his more recent friends and boy they were definitely high on that alternate dimension parallel universe thing... no clue what they are going on about in so many posts, and I don't think it's a vocabulary or reading comprehension issue on my part. I'm not here to judge but it is certainly... interesting... I'll just say that death as a means to traverse through planes is not a thought that resonates with me.

Honestly kinda wish I hadn't gone looking... I should just stay in my lane.

Edit: I also don't know why I'm not just candid, I don't really care who is reading this lol. Their reaction to his death is weird and I don't like to judge how people grieve but I am definitely judging right now. It's creepy and it makes it seem like he would have been contemplating it for a while. :/

I agree with you on both the bold points. While I get that people don’t necessarily think straight in depression, but this level of morbid contemplation about death is not something that people should be romanticizing.

Sushant was a nerd, an over thinker but didn’t come across to me as someone looking at death as some means of traveling planes. This seems to be overactive speculation from some people. To me, it still feels like he made a rash decision in a low phase.

A few things I’m not clear on. Was his sister staying with him when this happened? Did he wait for her to run out for an errand to do this?

Also, he apparently owned companies in AI and VR with Rhea? Wow 😕

Who is this Sandeep Singh? Do you guys remember him from the PR days? I have no clue but he also seems to be suffering from the same guilt about thinking Ankita could have saved Sushant.

He doesn’t come across as opportunistic as VG, but I still wish people wouldn’t do this publicly. Will only make life harder for Ankita :(

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