KZKians Lets come together - Page 3

In real life many know me as a very serious person... I take EVERYTHING seriously because I've spent my life troubleshooting solutions. Yet empathizing with others (even fictional characters) is as natural as breathing.

A while ago I watched an interview on BBC by a renowned writer; and what he said struck a cord with me not only as a creative person and a writer, but as a human being.

In order to create, creatives seclude themselves for long periods of time. During this time, we pour our effort, love and concern into our work, our characters and the situations we literally "throw" at them. We develop them in such a way that they are believable and that they subconsciously pass on important messages to their fans. It is those messages that make them relate-able.

While appreciation for our characters and whatever pairings we create humbles most (not all) creatives, times like these are most trying... Creatives find it difficult to create, because the love and care that goes into the creation process is now focused on caring for one's loved ones and society at large. For want of a better term: we are bled dry.

But this is when I firmly believe in the age old belief that goes, No matter what your background, no matter what your beliefs or religion, and no matter where you come from, you will be tested. That difficult times reveal the real person behind the facade. Shamelessly opportunistic people will find a way to con others and benefit from their concerns and misery (even if it is only momentarily), while the majority of us will pull together and try to get through this as best as we can.

It's your choice which side you end up on but I know that I would not want to look back and remember (or know) that any supposed happiness or peace of mind came at the cost of others'.

We all want to beat this, grow as individuals and come out on the other side better and stronger than before. Therefore, please, don't trivialize other's problems. They may seem small to you because you don't understand the context and complexity of the issue. But to that individual it is something that blocks their path and peace of mind. They cannot see past it. It is not for you to determine how important or trivial the issue is. The fact that they have reached out to you should indicate your importance in their lives.

Please remember: problems shared are problems halved, and happiness shared is happiness doubled.

Let's all reach out to someone - It is during times like these that simple acts saves lives.

All I will say is ...😊

A BIG Thank you to Billi, Koeli and Erum for being part of the KZK2 forum and handling it so well ...🤗👏❤️👍🏼

It’s been a great journey so far ... looking forwards too ... ❤️🥳

2020 has been tough for entire humanity and it’s going to relentless till mid of next year ...

I am sure we shall all sail through if we remain together ... let’s join hands in mutual support 🤗🤗

This is for all the IF members who are hurting and lonely...

When the heart is in ice when the soul searches over wasteland with no features to hold, know that there is love in the world for you! When there is only cold darkness and the space around you feels like a void, know life gets better! When the walls are too thick to breach, stay strong, perhaps those walls are there to protect you!! There is beauty for you ahead, just know there is, yes... there is so much joy stored for you ... for you only! There are times in this life we live only a day at a time, that we ride the river with no oars, taking what comes and doing our best. But there will come a time when you will find a safe person to trust and everything will go right, and maybe you'll be their safe person too??!! Many members experienced such moments in their IF journey. No matter your age, you need love every bit as much as food, water, and air. Love is our birthright, an intrinsic part of our soul and what it means to be human. So for my part, I'm sending you love right now, I hope you feel it. I pour it into my writing in the hope that it helps. We all need to feel a connection. We all need to know we are worthy of love and trust ❤️🤗

Human beings are social creatures. We need the companionship of others to thrive in life, and the strength of our connections has a huge impact on our mental health and happiness. Being socially connected to others can ease stress, anxiety, and depression, boost self-worth, provide comfort and joy, prevent loneliness. On the flip side, the threat of nonacceptance and disconnectedness, rejection and refusal for something or the other.will be there, accept it with all dignity and gulp it first and smile at the hurtful world with a graceful smile! Now, it is time for you to come to terms with your own self, yes what else you want? You are there for yourself... why are you complaining that there is no one to rely on?

In today’s world, many of us rely on social media platforms such as Facebook, Twitter, Snapchat, YouTube, Tik Tok, and Instagram to find and connect with each other. While each has its benefits, it’s important to remember that social media can never be a replacement for real-world human connections.

Thankful to Shirisha who offered help to the needy members with her expertise on this specific subject. 🤗

Through this thread, the assurance extended by the Moderators BilliCat, Koeli, and Erummalik is highly commendable and laudable.🤗🤗🤗

Now , let me share with you one of the profound experiences that I faced in the initial stage of my IF journey. 😊

When I was a baby of 30 or 40 posts old in this IF, one member from a serial forum questioned my integrity on a particular point!

I'm not used to it, it unnerved me Um… it’s just that, I used to be happy in their company. Hmn.. yeah, past tense. Sucks, I know. It felt like.... like a thunderbolt hit me when I was unaware of my own presence. I didn’t really write anything wrong; I guess she misunderstood me , but mostly it seemed ridiculous that this would happen. So, so now I just glaring at this laptop, this stupid hurting screen in front of me, that just says through a scar on it. And what the hell am I supposed to do being here? Feel happy? I –I don’t. It… it just hurts, depressing, defacing, vandalized my peace!

Except for myself and Avi, all others are veterans with red and purple color names under their DPs. with not less than 5000 posts.They saw me in the forum within 10 / 15 posts and included my name without asking and later informed me --" you belong to this place and to all of us! "Such is their love. Just like real friends they walked in, like true friends they know my strengths and weaknesses well—sometimes better than me.

On that day with a ruptured ego with a red face posted a few words --- " We (royal we!) are not here to be insulted by each and every one! Better to quit rather than stood here with a faceless tear in front of you" and walked off.

Different people with different perspectives, everyone has their own way of dealing with an issue, tackling a problem.

One of my friends there felt that I am arrogant and headstrong, started thrashing me black and blue with her harsh words for the declaration of my quit. That reached the boiling point and I sent one last pm to the thread maker, who is a Serbian, an Oxford-educated wonderful woman with a golden heart, but at that moment it was irrelevant for me, fuming with anger questioned her ' what sinful thing I 've done? Someone hurt my sentiments and for that, a hurtful sigh from me, is it looking like an arrogant answer to you? I am leaving this IF'

Then.... then started the celestial shower of love with her tender words, with her requests, with her friendly scolding, with her matured advice, by recollecting many memories which we shared with friendly bonding earlier, a few quotes, with an enormous passion, she relentlessly sent as many pms as she can in those 3 days ... still, I was adamant, refused to return, then she sent a final pm stating that -- "this is my final pm Sweety( she fondly calls me like that ) OK, I'll respect your decision, but remember one thing, you are like my daughter, they all knew that how much I love you, if you leave me like this, they will laugh at me, no problem, I will bear those insults. I am asking you for forgiveness for their sinful and hurtful words which wounded your tender heart in such a hard way, I am saying sorry on their behalf. All the three threads, AT, CC and FC people are waiting to see your poetic posts there, now I'll learn to live without your presence in all those places."

It humbled me, it disarmed my anger, it melted my heart, it made me kneel down in front of her friendly love, made me a mere child who runs towards its mother with flowing tears, to hide herself behind her pallu,the next moment my posts were there in all the three places as if nothing has happened. All the members were aware of something is happening behind the curtains, a stoic silence reigned there, when with a smiling face I entered there, there was ecstasy, a big relief for all of us, including me!

On that day I realized one thing, the blizzard removed the illusion of my eyes. With sight back, I realized that I am not alone, I am one of many in the world and the world is full of interesting people to see, to learn, to feel, to keep my mind anchored in time and space. But as the white flakes whirl around me in an angry vortex I am as alone as I would be in the bleakness of space and time, cold, so cold. When I try to reach out to my friends, all are there to hug me, to own me, and to show solidarity. That is the first time I named that special feeling as 'IF solidarity'

Now let us keep aside that "Me & Myself" for a while analyzing this incident from an areal view, from outside the personal perspective.

A member was hurt, wanted to move on in life, that is the case of many members in this IF on many occasions, the reactions may vary but the main content is the same. If you see the entire episode, one thing is certain, here, the ultimate winner is a beautiful bonding ... a bonding between members.

And the main point here is and which reiterated by our Appy here-- if I kept myself silent for a while on that day and slip aside to allow peace to prevail,to settle the razed emotions, how nice it would have been? Along with that reckless commentator, am I not a sinner too for my immature reaction? I know, yes I am! Every rectified mistake in life, it needs an acknowledgment! From that day onwards, with respect and gratitude towards her love,to that friendly bonding, I preferred to include her in all my stories, in every serial Forum in which I used to write, BV, HHN, SSK, Gulmohar Grand, I made her an important character in my every narration ,as an SP, Criminal Lawyer, Defence Lawyer, Public prosecutor ( some were crime oriented serials!) Judge and finally a Psychiatrist! All our friends used to enjoy it thoroughly.After reading the story she used to ask me teasingly" Missy,( another name she prefers to call me) what are you planning to make me in your next story?"

A true friend supports and encourages us, tolerates our shortcomings, accepts us unconditionally, and cares for us no matter what.

A real friend walks in, even when they’d rather be somewhere else when everyone else is walking out. With a true friend the walls come down and you can be who you are without any false facade! A good friend knows you well—sometimes better than you do yourself

The language of friendship is not words but meanings. The real idea behind this IF is the connotation of that meaningful feeling.

In order to create, creatives seclude themselves for long periods of time. During this time, we pour our effort, love and concern into our work, our characters and the situations we literally "throw" at them. We develop them in such a way that they are believable and that they subconsciously pass on important messages to their fans. It is those messages that make them relatable.

Well said K-Shandra 👏 Very true. 🤗

Originally posted by: Viswasruti

When I was a baby of 30 or 40 posts old in this IF, one member from a serial forum questioned my integrity on a particular point!

I'm not used to it, it unnerved me Um… it’s just that, I used to be happy in their company. Hmn.. yeah, past tense. Sucks, I know. It felt like.... like a thunderbolt hit me when I was unaware of my own presence. I didn’t really write anything wrong; I guess she misunderstood me , but mostly it seemed ridiculous that this would happen. So, so now I just glaring at this laptop, this stupid hurting screen in front of me, that just says through a scar on it. And what the hell am I supposed to do being here? Feel happy? I –I don’t. It… it just hurts, depressing, defacing, vandalized my peace!

Except for myself and Avi, all others are veterans with red and purple color names under their DPs. with not less than 5000 posts.They saw me in the forum within 10 / 15 posts and included my name without asking and later informed me --" you belong to this place and to all of us! "Such is their love. Just like real friends they walked in, like true friends they know my strengths and weaknesses well—sometimes better than me.

On that day with a ruptured ego with a red face posted a few words --- " We (royal we!) are not here to be insulted by each and every one! Better to quit rather than stood here with a faceless tear in front of you" and walked off.

Different people with different perspectives, everyone has their own way of dealing with an issue, tackling a problem.

One of my friends there felt that I am arrogant and headstrong, started thrashing me black and blue with her harsh words for the declaration of my quit. That reached the boiling point and I sent one last pm to the thread maker, who is a Serbian, an Oxford-educated wonderful woman with a golden heart, but at that moment it was irrelevant for me, fuming with anger questioned her ' what sinful thing I 've done? Someone hurt my sentiments and for that, a hurtful sigh from me, is it looking like an arrogant answer to you? I am leaving this IF'

Then.... then started the celestial shower of love with her tender words, with her requests, with her friendly scolding, with her matured advice, by recollecting many memories which we shared with friendly bonding earlier, a few quotes, with an enormous passion, she relentlessly sent as many pms as she can in those 3 days ... still, I was adamant, refused to return, then she sent a final pm stating that -- "this is my final pm Sweety( she fondly calls me like that ) OK, I'll respect your decision, but remember one thing, you are like my daughter, they all knew that how much I love you, if you leave me like this, they will laugh at me, no problem, I will bear those insults. I am asking you for forgiveness for their sinful and hurtful words which wounded your tender heart in such a hard way, I am saying sorry on their behalf. All the three threads, AT, CC and FC people are waiting to see your poetic posts there, now I'll learn to live without your presence in all those places."

It humbled me, it disarmed my anger, it melted my heart, it made me kneel down in front of her friendly love, made me a mere child who runs towards its mother with flowing tears, to hide herself behind her pallu,the next moment my posts were there in all the three places as if nothing has happened. All the members were aware of something is happening behind the curtains, a stoic silence reigned there, when with a smiling face I entered there, there was ecstasy, a big relief for all of us, including me!

On that day I realized one thing, the blizzard removed the illusion of my eyes. With sight back, I realized that I am not alone, I am one of many in the world and the world is full of interesting people to see, to learn, to feel, to keep my mind anchored in time and space. But as the white flakes whirl around me in an angry vortex I am as alone as I would be in the bleakness of space and time, cold, so cold. When I try to reach out to my friends, all are there to hug me, to own me, and to show solidarity. That is the first time I named that special feeling as 'IF solidarity'

Now let us keep aside that "Me & Myself" for a while analyzing this incident from an areal view, from outside the personal perspective.

A member was hurt, wanted to move on in life, that is the case of many members in this IF on many occasions, the reactions may vary but the main content is the same. If you see the entire episode, one thing is certain, here, the ultimate winner is a beautiful bonding ... a bonding between members.

And the main point here is and which reiterated by our Appy here-- if I kept myself silent for a while on that day and slip aside to allow peace to prevail,to settle the razed emotions, how nice it would have been? Along with that reckless commentator, am I not a sinner too for my immature reaction? I know, yes I am! Every rectified mistake in life, it needs an acknowledgment! From that day onwards, with respect and gratitude towards her love,to that friendly bonding, I preferred to include her in all my stories, in every serial Forum in which I used to write, BV, HHN, SSK, Gulmohar Grand, I made her an important character in my every narration ,as an SP, Criminal Lawyer, Defence Lawyer, Public prosecutor ( some were crime oriented serials!) Judge and finally a Psychiatrist! All our friends used to enjoy it thoroughly.After reading the story she used to ask me teasingly" Missy,( another name she prefers to call me) what are you planning to make me in your next story?"

A true friend supports and encourages us, tolerates our shortcomings, accepts us unconditionally, and cares for us no matter what.

A real friend walks in, even when they’d rather be somewhere else when everyone else is walking out. With a true friend the walls come down and you can be who you are without any false facade! A good friend knows you well—sometimes better than you do yourself

The language of friendship is not words but meanings. The real idea behind this IF is the connotation of that meaningful feeling.

Thank you so much for this thread. I realized I may have hurt many with my words and I would like to apologize for it..really sorry folks if I hurted anyone ....that's the reason I had quit the serial in between .

The social media has its pros and cons . the cons the more dangerous and needs attention. We think we are expressing ourselves and we have the right to do so , but in a virtual world ,its important to watch our words as we dont know how many people are reading it and with what mindset, and how it may affect them . So we need to be more responsible before saying anything harsh . This should stop. This post is in the right direction. Thanks a lot for it 😊

Thank you for such a beautiful thread. I can't help but reply here even though I am not a KZK2 viewer.

We are all, every single one of us, is fighting our own inner battles. I just want to tell you that you are not alone. We are all in this together. Life is not just about fame and success or victory or a relationship. It is not about a particular guy or girl. Life is not about failures also neither is it about disappointments. These are all a part of life but never life itself. Life is simply life which is meant to be lived until our time is over.

We encounter the hardships, the rejections, the pain and the meanness from the world, so that we can elevate our spirit, so that we can purify our soul. They are a part of our journey and a divine contract that we have made with the Universe. It is all for our good so that we emerge out as a better soul.

Ek din to sab khatam hi ho jaega. Ek din to jana hi hai yar. Why are we taking everything so seriously. Trust me, nothing is as serious as we make it out to be. I know it is easier said than done because we have been conditioned in this way by the society. But if we really look at it silently and calmly, we are worrying way too much.

Aap kabhi akele nhi hote. Ishwar/Allah/Krishna/God/Jesus/Shiva/Shakti ya jis bhi naam se aap us ek Truth ko jante hain, they are always always always with you and in you. Just close your eyes and feel them and you'll know how much the Universe loves you.

Zindagi ke liye koi bhi cheez chord do par kisi bhi cheez ke liye zindagi mat chordna.

Let us send out positive energy to each other and to the world. I am sending you my love and positive energy. ❤️

@Charu and Sonnet11, you both expressed your opinions on life and social responsibilities in a beautiful way.

The entire world is fighting with an unknown enemy with empty hands, already lost more than half a million people worldwide to it, still counting, no one knows how long.

This is the time to soothe our past wounds with a few good words from both the warring groups and unite to fight against this unseen peril.

Just think once, why do people think they are winning on argument by hurting someone else's feelings when in reality that person is your friend once, and if you agree, ready to be your friend again?

You are in an argument with someone and at some point, they start to say something that hurts your feelings even if you try to be normal in your conversation with them and they switch gears from discussion to attacking your character, that's something called "ad hominem". Have you heard the saying, "Hurt people hurt people."

Because the one who reacts emotionally loses by default!

When we get emotional, we're not rational. We become reactive. Reaction to an argument will always result to hurt and pain which is most of the time it will be the collateral. Neither you nor I will be at peace!

Let me share one incident in my IF journey which inspired me so much, I was awed by the vastness of their knowledge on Greek Philosophy, we were discussed about the religion and the Western Thought on Hinduism, etc with mutual respect.

All of a sudden the topic diverted towards Ramayan and Ram, and Dharma followed by Dharmaraja in Mahabharath, and then suddenly all hell broke loose!! Sharing with you what happened next---

Religion and current politics are highly inflammable and explosive topics in any social media discussion. It will flare up heated arguments at any time. It naturally starts the stormy discussions.

My statement was like-- 'Ram was a primitive God, yet to evolve, followed all the defective societal norms without questioning, an ideal citizen at that ancient times, but not a good husband to his wife, didn't follow any promise he does at the time of marriage. But Krishna was a fully developed Divine being, that is why he corrected certain wronged societal norms since his childhood, carried the clout with him towards spiritual knowledge, that is why he was called as a preacher, neither a ritualistic follower of primitive laws nor a dependent on circumstances, a Divine guide to the mankind from then till now."

For 3 years in my IF life, I was silent, taken every care to hide my feelings from expressing my opinions on Ramayan because I know that, it will rake up many misunderstandings.

Earlier the thread maker saw my posts in the Mytho section and she invited me to join her thread, she is an extraordinary writer with high creative skills. With revere, I joined them. We were discussed on many topics

from the historical importance of Assam History, and Pramila the queen from Assam who married Arjun etc, in that context, the topic diverted towards Sita and Draupadi, how much they loved their husbands and served them selflessly to their Divine husbands.

I expressed my opinion on that point, then .... whoah ... what revelations those were!!!

They are all highly knowledgeable members in Mythology, religion, Epics, and God, I know a bit of it, then started the discussions. It spread up to the next thread, occupied nearly 200 pages, theirs' was Spiritual Knowledge- mine was pure logic with a feminism tinge. Basically I am a feminist at the core, always argue that God is also a small spec in a woman's womb ...don't show any ego and decide to rule our lives, whether it is Sita, Sakuntala Draupadi Radha or an ordinary person like me! In those marathon discussions, we touched many topics, for points I used to ponder Manu Dharma Sastra, Upanishads, Smritis, all three epics, four Vedas, Bhagavad Gita, Aurobindo Ghosh's -Life Divine, with revere I followed their arguments and with friendly manner continued my point in that discussion, neither they-- (nearly the entire members on one side and me alone on the other bank of the flowing river of knowledge between us!) nor I never crossed the IF Rules' line. We always started our every post with that tag line" I respect your opinion, but I am afraid, here I want to differ on this particular aspect" then followed the argument.

In between, 1or 2 members with a feeble voice tried to say "What Madhuri Di is saying is also correct naa?" But they used to be silenced by their friends by hugging them to push them aside! 😃 It was a conflict between inherent beliefs and progressive thought but discussed in a friendly atmosphere. The entire credit goes to the thread maker, always with the wisdom she used to say a few words everyday by balancing both arguments, but always expressed her respect towards Divine Ram and Dharmaj with straight words.

Later , after a year or so, one member from that thread with tongue in cheek asked me to write a story on Ram for a competition in another Forum, to gift it to an unknown IF friend, a blind spot, I took it as a challenge and with the same spirit written a romantic story on Sita and Ram , the highlight here is -- while guessing, the person who got my story as a gift, thought that it was written by that highly knowledgeable thread maker to gift her, at that moment I felt like -- it is the highest honor for me! No one can imagine that it was written by a person who is an ardent critic of Ram since her childhood after watching the crying Sita in the forest when Ram abandoned her when she was about to deliver his heirs!

But if religious beliefs and values move some people towards conflict, the same belief motivates others to act as peace-makers. Thatswhy, discussions are always better than arguments, because an argument is to find out who is right, and a discussion is to find out what is right.

That is why I always say, my IF life is a learning process for me, learned how to effectively conduct a critical conversation about a particular topic, without hurting the other members whom I always consider as my close friends. And there are many threads in which the members know how to discuss politely on any topic with wisdom, without hurting anyone.

Grateful to the TM for arranging a stage for us to express our views freely and allowing us to exchange our inner feelings and fears in these hardest times. ❤️