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Posted: 5 years ago

Awww how freaking adorbs they better post the rest of photos from this scene too . This has been such a small interaction but sooo freaking cute .


Also he reposted it with rulayegi kya pagli heheh❤️

https://www.instagram.com/p/CAw-4hiA-tH/?igshid=1cpiuhulm73a5

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Posted: 5 years ago

Originally posted by: naadanmasakalli

Awww how freaking adorbs they better post the rest of photos from this scene too . This has been such a small interaction but sooo freaking cute .


Also he reposted it with rulayegi kya pagli heheh❤️

https://www.instagram.com/p/CAw-4hiA-tH/?igshid=1cpiuhulm73a5


Aww cute pic! They are more than best friends? Lol mujhe toh yeh bhi nahin pata tha yeh dono “best friends” hain. Lee ka best friend toh sirf gym hai, no? 😆

Haha@Lee ka response. Cute. They should deffo work together again. Gul wasted them in IB sadly.

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Posted: 5 years ago

Originally posted by: AreYaar


Aww cute pic! They are more than best friends? Lol mujhe toh yeh bhi nahin pata tha yeh dono “best friends” hain. Lee ka best friend toh sirf gym hai, no? 😆

Haha@Lee ka response. Cute. They should deffo work together again. Gul wasted them in IB sadly.


😆 I guess Human Best friend 😆 woh KJ toh ab nahi raha lagta hai post his shaadi and now he is apparently in "elite" group with being in ekta camp de dia hoga daga usne bechare lee ko😆 Hence neha 😆 jokes apart it's rather so sweet ke koi dosti toh sustain ki from IB and it always feels good to see them so fondly talk about IB despite all the unfairness that they jhelooed and went through. Atleast uss San mess ke baad bhi koi bitterness toh nahi hai. Nice to see them not playing victims and shadowing kahaniyan now to gain sympathy.


Also am dming you caz this made me ponder over the so called friendships and it can't be said here

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Posted: 5 years ago

Originally posted by: naadanmasakalli


😆 I guess Human Best friend 😆 woh KJ toh ab nahi raha lagta hai post his shaadi and now he is apparently in "elite" group with being in ekta camp de dia hoga daga usne bechare lee ko😆 Hence neha 😆 jokes apart it's rather so sweet ke koi dosti toh sustain ki from IB and it always feels good to see them so fondly talk about IB despite all the unfairness that they jhelooed and went through. Atleast uss San mess ke baad bhi koi bitterness toh nahi hai. Nice to see them not playing victims and shadowing kahaniyan now to gain sympathy.


Also am dming you caz this made me ponder over the so called friendships and it can't be said here


Haha yeah I guess these two have managed to rekindle their friendship after the IB/Ruvya debacle.....mujhe toh yeh funny lagta hai ki IB ke end ke baad Lee ne bhi kabhi Ruvya pairing ko ghaas nahin daali😆.....when the show was on air, they were all obligated to do the groupbaazi parade with the pairs......khatam hote hi back to original dynamics😆


Jo bhi hai, chaahe is lockdown series ke promotion ke liye hi, it's good to see them working together/hanging out together again.


I guess Neha isn't the type to be bitter.....Gul keeps screwing her over multiple times but she seems grateful for whatever she gets😆.....and Lee ne kya bitter hona.....I doubt he feels he lost out on anything not being part of faltu Dhinkufest😆


Waise bhi he seems to always have his gym to keep himself happy😆......doesn't need to keep doing glam photoshoots all the time to feel validation in life like some other people😆

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Posted: 5 years ago

Hello ladies! How is lockdown life treating you all? I haven’t caught up with anything on the thread but just dropped into say I watched Thappad on Amazon Prime last night and absolutely loved it. What an amazing movie! AY and Fary in case you all haven’t seen it please do watch. It’s a must watch movie. Very thought provoking and very well made.

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Posted: 5 years ago

Originally posted by: soapsuds

Hello ladies! How is lockdown life treating you all? I haven’t caught up with anything on the thread but just dropped into say I watched Thappad on Amazon Prime last night and absolutely loved it. What an amazing movie! AY and Fary in case you all haven’t seen it please do watch. It’s a must watch movie. Very thought provoking and very well made.


HI biraj 🤗 How have you been


We are just hanging in there waiting for life to go back to normal like everyone else 😆 keep dropping in here we miss ya hehe


Yes we have both seen thappad and loved it what a smart script with each woman highlighting her own set of issues and all their stories interwoven so smartly. What I esp liked was despite its strong messaging there was this tenderness in the mood of the film like all the silence gave it such a calming vibe despite the unrest happening inside amu and her peers woh toofan se pehle wali khamoshi ka actual representation tha and it was chilling.👏

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Posted: 5 years ago

Hey Biraj....lockdown life, or more precisely, pandemic life continues on one day at a time I suppose.....2020 continues to be a record crazy year in many ways and we are only halfway through.


Hope you and your family are doing well.


I watched Thappad a few days back too and really loved it. The script itself was especially superb with the way each character's journey/set of interactions were woven in alongside that of Amrita, and then the performances elevated it. The movie is hard hitting precisely because it doesn't take the route of sloganeering and posturing as would be the easy way to depict a societal issue.....instead the movie makes its points in the quieter/gentler moments which hit you in a searing manner.


The slap was the incident that became a catalyst....but it is everything that happens before and after the slap that leaves a strong impression. I am not like Amrita, but I see many women like her around me.....women who pour their all into a husband or the man they love to the point of being consumed and losing their sense of self.....not everyone has a moment of awakening like Amrita did....precisely because society is engineered for a woman to not be allowed that sense of introspection and expectation of respect, of not being taken for granted. To question it is to "stir trouble" and "create rifts in a family".....that is what Amrita is told from various people around her....not just the "conservative" family members but even the "modern" lady who is her lawyer....and it was important to see that simply a modern haircut and having a career doesn't free a woman of those mental shackles even then.


It is the unraveling of her husband that is also noteworthy....the spoilt and entitled man-child.....so very common in society....he is so very used to his every whim and fancy being catered to that he isn't even able to fathom why there could even be a ripple over the fact that he slapped his wife like that. One of the most notable moments in the movie is when his boss tells him that I was also arguing with you but you didn't feel like you could slap me....somehow you felt you had the right to slap her. Feeling a right on someone does not entitle you to slap them and then behave as if it was hardly a blip on the radar. Because the slap becomes a manifestation of how very much you demean her and don't realize it.


A woman is a nurturer by nature....the fact that she pours so much nurturing into every relationship....whether it is that of a mother-son, a brother-sister or the ultimate intimate relationship of a husband-wife has been so strangely skewed in society. Getting that kind of love and nurturing is a blessing....but somehow, instead of valuing it, being grateful for it, society abuses it, takes it for granted. That nurturing is not something anyone is ENTITLED to.....a woman chooses to provide that nurturing out of love....she is not some vessel from which you can pluck this per your demands no matter how you demean and abuse her. Even a flower doesn't bloom if you don't give it sunlight.....so why is a woman expected to provide that nurturing endlessly when the light inside her is extinguished in such a manner?


Ofcourse as the story progresses, we also see the expected sight of a man retaliating as his ego is challenged and then trying to even more deliberately suppress and intimidate the woman who dared to even slightly challenge what he demands.


But by the end, it was good to see the man get some level of awareness atleast.....I liked their last scene on the day of the divorce.....it is a tragedy even as they both move on....but Amrita's whole point was simply to make him understand that the relationship cannot stand if he cannot see just what he broke, that he killed the love she had for him with the slap and the aftermath....and he somewhat realized this by the end.


I also liked that even as she was cordial with her in-laws, she made the important point that her husband's behavior was a culmination of his upbringing and all he saw around him....the other striking point was when she noted that even as her in-laws were nice to her, not a single person came to see her at her parents home to talk to her as a person....their only association with her was as an attachment to their son.....the fact that this girl poured so many years of her life into their family somehow still didn't entitle her to be approached for herself as a person and not just as an appendage to her husband.....these are the bigger societal questions that many people need to introspect about.


I really liked Dia's character too....how subtly they showed the way she is resented for being a single rich woman....lol as if no one can believe she can earn that money, that car, that house on her own capabilities...."aisa kya karti hai that she has that car"?.....and her response in the scene when Amrita's husband asked her to lie and say nothing happened at the party....."I want to believe most men are good...so I'm going to pretend you didn't just ask me to do that".


It's a truly excellent film...Anubhav Sinha is just growing from strength to strength....previously with Article 15, now Thappad.

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Posted: 5 years ago

Originally posted by: AreYaar

Hey Biraj....lockdown life, or more precisely, pandemic life continues on one day at a time I suppose.....2020 continues to be a record crazy year in many ways and we are only halfway through.


Hope you and your family are doing well.


I watched Thappad a few days back too and really loved it. The script itself was especially superb with the way each character's journey/set of interactions were woven in alongside that of Amrita, and then the performances elevated it. The movie is hard hitting precisely because it doesn't take the route of sloganeering and posturing as would be the easy way to depict a societal issue.....instead the movie makes its points in the quieter/gentler moments which hit you in a searing manner.


The slap was the incident that became a catalyst....but it is everything that happens before and after the slap that leaves a strong impression. I am not like Amrita, but I see many women like her around me.....women who pour their all into a husband or the man they love to the point of being consumed and losing their sense of self.....not everyone has a moment of awakening like Amrita did....precisely because society is engineered for a woman to not be allowed that sense of introspection and expectation of respect, of not being taken for granted. To question it is to "stir trouble" and "create rifts in a family".....that is what Amrita is told from various people around her....not just the "conservative" family members but even the "modern" lady who is her lawyer....and it was important to see that simply a modern haircut and having a career doesn't free a woman of those mental shackles even then.


It is the unraveling of her husband that is also noteworthy....the spoilt and entitled man-child.....so very common in society....he is so very used to his every whim and fancy being catered to that he isn't even able to fathom why there could even be a ripple over the fact that he slapped his wife like that. One of the most notable moments in the movie is when his boss tells him that I was also arguing with you but you didn't feel like you could slap me....somehow you felt you had the right to slap her. Feeling a right on someone does not entitle you to slap them and then behave as if it was hardly a blip on the radar. Because the slap becomes a manifestation of how very much you demean her and don't realize it.


A woman is a nurturer by nature....the fact that she pours so much nurturing into every relationship....whether it is that of a mother-son, a brother-sister or the ultimate intimate relationship of a husband-wife has been so strangely skewed in society. Getting that kind of love and nurturing is a blessing....but somehow, instead of valuing it, being grateful for it, society abuses it, takes it for granted. That nurturing is not something anyone is ENTITLED to.....a woman chooses to provide that nurturing out of love....she is not some vessel from which you can pluck this per your demands no matter how you demean and abuse her. Even a flower doesn't bloom if you don't give it sunlight.....so why is a woman expected to provide that nurturing endlessly when the light inside her is extinguished in such a manner?


Ofcourse as the story progresses, we also see the expected sight of a man retaliating as his ego is challenged and then trying to even more deliberately suppress and intimidate the woman who dared to even slightly challenge what he demands.


But by the end, it was good to see the man get some level of awareness atleast.....I liked their last scene on the day of the divorce.....it is a tragedy even as they both move on....but Amrita's whole point was simply to make him understand that the relationship cannot stand if he cannot see just what he broke, that he killed the love she had for him with the slap and the aftermath....and he somewhat realized this by the end.


I also liked that even as she was cordial with her in-laws, she made the important point that her husband's behavior was a culmination of his upbringing and all he saw around him....the other striking point was when she noted that even as her in-laws were nice to her, not a single person came to see her at her parents home to talk to her as a person....their only association with her was as an attachment to their son.....the fact that this girl poured so many years of her life into their family somehow still didn't entitle her to be approached for herself as a person and not just as an appendage to her husband.....these are the bigger societal questions that many people need to introspect about.


I really liked Dia's character too....how subtly they showed the way she is resented for being a single rich woman....lol as if no one can believe she can earn that money, that car, that house on her own capabilities...."aisa kya karti hai that she has that car"?.....and her response in the scene when Amrita's husband asked her to lie and say nothing happened at the party....."I want to believe most men are good...so I'm going to pretend you didn't just ask me to do that".


It's a truly excellent film...Anubhav Sinha is just growing from strength to strength....previously with Article 15, now Thappad.


+1 to everything you said pretty much have the same thoughts but few more pointers that really stood out were how the slap was seen as nothing major the very night moments later the MIL who was otherwise so loving and caring towards ammu was like well jo hona tha ho gaya now go down and treat guests with a smile I mean WHAT That is some next level of insensitivity but one can't blame the MIL as such too caz she's also part of the same system who has ingrained ot in her ke yeh toh ladkiyon ka naseeb hai and pee jao aisi humiliation ko. SICK. She wasn't even given a little bit of time to process the beizzati but was asked to go down and smile which was like salt to her wounds oh no nothing just a slap in front of all no big deal let's return to business as usual. Bete ko toh kya hi koi kuch kehta ya reprimand karta when the expectation was still from bahu to uphold the izzat of the family and fix whatever mess the son created n👏😳(《 these are my sarcastic wali taaliyan btw😆) and surprisingly it wasn't even far fetched ot does happen in our society so what if you got humiliated but things shouldn't get even worse so go present yourself as it was nothing. Just imagine had the scenario been reversed had she accidently ended up slapping him in mid of a brawl toh kya kuch nahi sunane ko milta matlab tab to divorce court tak jaane ki bhi zaroorat na padhti wahin mayke pe hi kiss khatam ho jata and worse she might had to deal with serious consequences in terms of harm to her in various forms


The other thing that really struck me was how basically we are all soooooo SELFISH. There's a scene where the maid is telling Amy about she got slapped again in the beginning of the film while they are getting things together for vikram and amu laughs it off she legit is shown laughing/smiling nd saying phir se. Like it was no big deal even to ammu also when she wasn't the target for her it was the norm in the lower classes of our society just like we all are aware it happens so much due to various reasons but ammu didn't show even a bit if sympathy or compassion or tried to do something to solve the matter for her maid to help her come out of it instead she just casually laughed it out oh yeah whatever not my business kind of way as she didn't thought it could occur to her but when it happened to her it jolted her.


Special mention of the morning after scene where the maid comes and tries to cheer amu up by giving her a head massage. They beautifully were shown to be in union matlab this one incident brought them on one scale ke sabki yehi kahani hai so then how is amu superior when she also goes through the same. It was nicely done and then the maid going no big deal now since I m not the only one that this happens too which I also really was struck by that in her case the beating got normalized when amu got hit too caz until then she was trying to find an answer and get out of it and thought of her case as a special one but with amu's incident she went ab kuch karne ki koi zaroorat nahi as there is no escape so raho iske saath hi. There's a dialogue where she said it happens with everyone so what until the culmination of her arc which was awesome but momantarily she just felt ahh fine now we'll have to just live with it. 2 very different consequences of the same incident on 2 different people. The writing was just so well done and so layered without being in your face. There are these moments that made the film so impactful and I esp appreciate the lack of bhashans to show that they support feminism but being a true feminist in soul.

Edited by naadanmasakalli - 5 years ago
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Posted: 5 years ago

Also must mention the contrast in upbringing too with vikram getting away with so much and not 1 person calling him out but amu's father reprimanding his son right away when he misbehaved with his fiance and asking him to behave .

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Posted: 5 years ago

Originally posted by: naadanmasakalli


+1 to everything you said pretty much have the same thoughts but few more pointers that really stood out were how the slap was seen as nothing major the very night moments later the MIL who was otherwise so loving and caring towards ammu was like well jo hona tha ho gaya now go down and treat guests with a smile I mean WHAT That is some next level of insensitivity but one can't blame the MIL as such too caz she's also part of the same system who has ingrained ot in her ke yeh toh ladkiyon ka naseeb hai and pee jao aisi humiliation ko. SICK. She wasn't even given a little bit of time to process the beizzati but going down and smiling was like salt to her wounds oh no nothing just a slap in front of all no big deal let's return to business as usual. Bete ko toh kya hi koi kuch kehta ya reprimand karta when the expectation was still from bahu to uphold the izzat of the family and fix whatever mess the son created n👏😳(《 these are my sarcastic wali taaliyan btw😆) and surprisingly it wasn't even far fetched ot does happen in our society so what if you got humiliated but things shouldn't get even worse so go present yourself as it was nothing. Just imagine had the scenario been reversed had she accidently ended up slapping him in mid of a brawl toh kya kuch nahi sunane ko milta matlab tab to divorce court tak jaane ki bhi zaroorat na padhti wahin mayke pe hi kiss khatam ho jata and worse she might had to deal with serious consequences in terms of harm to her in various forms


The other thing that really struck me was how basically we are all soooooo SELFISH. There's a scene where the maid is telling Amy about she got slapped again in the beginning of the film while they are getting things together for vikram and amu laughs it off she legit is shown laughing/smiling nd saying phir se. Like it was no big deal even to ammu also when she wasn't the target for her it was the norm in the lower classes of our society just like we all are aware it happens so much due to various reasons but ammu didn't show even a bit if sympathy or compassion or tried to do something to solve the matter for her maid to help her come out of it instead she just casually laughed it out oh yeah whatever not my business kind of way as she didn't thought it could occur to her but whe it happened to her it jolted her.


Special mention of the morning after scene where the maid comes and tries to cheer amu up by giving her a head massage. They beautifully were shown to be in union matlab this one incident brought them on one scale ke sabki yehi kahani hai so then how is amu superior when she also goes through the same. It was nicely done and then the maid going bo big deal now since I m not the only one that this happens too which I also really was struck by that in her case the beating got normalized when amu got hot too caz until then she was trying to find an answer and get out of it and thought of her case as a special one but with amu's incident she went ab kuch karne ki koi zaroorat nahi as there is no escape so rahi iske saath hi. There's a dialogue where she said it happens with everyone so what u til the culmination fo her arc which was awesome but momantarily she just felt ahh fine now we'll have to just li e with it. 2 very different consequences of the same incident on 2 different people. The writing was just so well done and so layered without being in your face. There are these moments that made the film so impactful and I esp appreciate the pack of bhashans to show that they support feminism but again being a true feminist in soul.


Oh thank you for mentioning the maid ka story arc.....ek toh this actress is FAB....I loved her work in Soni also. This part is a perfect example of the show, don't tell/spoon feed storytelling device....which sadly is mostly missing in today's movie/TV scripts where mindless storytelling has become king.....people are usually too goddamn lazy to do nuanced storytelling anymore....thank god this movie rose above that.


Word to all you pointed out about the maid....and that was meant to evoke exactly that reaction....so many of us are guilty of not taking something that seriously until we face it on a personal level....human beings are selfish by nature and then our class bubbles and social conditioning adds to that in insulating us from the lives of people who don't belong to our social circles.


This is exactly what happened with Amu.....her maid would come and tell her many times that her husband was beating her up and Amu would listen, both of them would laugh it off or take it in stride as a part of the maid's life and just go on about their daily routines. But when it happened to Amu herself, her maid was the one who felt her pain most acutely....probably the last person Amu would have thought she would be identifying with on some level....and the compassion of the maid is just shown so beautifully....as you pointed out, the scene when she offers to massage Amu's head while Amu is in that numb mode. The other scene that hit me hard was the one when she tells her husband that she thought him beating her up was something out of the ordinary and she used to wonder why so but when she saw it happen to Amu too, she realized it's part and parcel of all their lives.....they showed how these things leave such deep traumas on a woman's psyche across various social and class barriers and they did it without waving flags and slogans.....that is why it made a more powerful impact. It just makes you think about the nature of abuse and disrespect.....it manifests in different ways in different class levels/social levels....but ultimately all these women are going through the same thing in different forms.....for the maid, it is constant physical abuse, for the female lawyer, it is mental abuse as she is suppressed by a husband who tries to invalidate her sense of self constantly....for Amu, it becomes a matter of her nurturing being devalued....she has a crisis of conscience cuz she defined her value through being the one that holds her husband's life together....and when she realized that wasn't how her husband saw it, her life fell apart.


As for the SIL expecting Amu to go out and manage guests immediately after the slap.....that was a nutshell moment cuz that is exactly why society is where it is hundreds of years later....it is easier to keep brushing things under the carpet to keep up appearances rather than tackling things head on. Most people manage to spend their whole lives like this.....it seems easier to swim with the tide than self-introspect and act on that.

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