Is Pataal Lok anti-Hindu? - Page 3

Originally posted by: Mahisa22

Ignoring sometimes also leads to monopolizing. For example, look at the academic sector. The left liberal intelligentsia had dominated the higher education sector for decades in India, shutting out neutral and/or right-wing academicians such as Sita Ram Goel, Jagdish Bhagwati, RC Majumdar etc. They even tried to change historical facts to suit their Muslim appeasement agenda, such as introducing that atrocious "Truth about temple destruction" by Richard Eaton (look it up if you can).

Right now, the internet space is also dominated and almost monopolized by these leftist nutjobs. If we ignore this kind of sublime anti-Hindu propaganda and let them off without any kind of counter-narrative, then the web space will also come to be fully dominated by them.

Again, people believe what they want to believe. Leftists in social media are like those whiny SJW who at most can be a noise which just annoys, they don't cost shit.

Most of the people don't notice the political angle anyways, and those who do, are already politically charged. And if a person is politically charged, no matter how much propoganda is there, it doesn't change them, unless it personally hit them in real life.

See in my opinion, in India we should let people express their views as much as they want via whatever means. I mean what is the use of banning movies, web series and serials, while the govt did jackshit about a whole group of people highjacking a whole junction blocking the capital of India. It required fcuking corona to clear that. Had govt been swift in it, instead of letting that stupid protest going on, so they could benefit from it, there would have been no 2020 Delhi riot. And no I am not one of those crybabies who call this clash between two groups a pogram or genocide, and try to sell a one sided narrative but it is true that Govt should have taken a swift action in handling that circus in Shaheen Bagh.

Originally posted by: --Pro.vo.King--

True that. I dont see what the big deal is - it is just a random web series. 🤔

It’s documentary or drama serial ?

Patal Lok had that Junaid Khan incident where Hindu mob chanting Jai Shree Ram killed him for eating beef when he was eating chicken

The only thing leftist in convenience care about is agenda, you have to disclose religion and caste of accuser and victim first, if it appeals to their agenda, then they will ask PM Modi, what was he doing in PM house instead of using his omnipotent powers to save everyone. Now when it came out that the argument was over seat, they don't want to believe it, how can argument be over seat, when the current topic is beef?

https://m.timesofindia.com/city/delhi/accused-in-junaid-case-has-confessed-police/amp_articleshow/59518467.cms

https://indianexpress.com/article/cities/delhi/junaid-khan-lynching-fight-started-over-seat-caste-abuses-says-punjab-and-haryana-high-court-5140058/

The original incident is shameful enough, but Beef makes it meatier, that's not enough one has to add "Jai Shree Ram" in the mix with bhagwa color coordination

That's the level of their intellect

Originally posted by: McGorgeous

It's amazing you know. Lots of Hindus accuse Muslims of not being able to take any criticism of Islam in media, (which as a sidenote is also true). But you know, glass houses and stones 😆

The thing is, no truly Islam-critiquing movie/web series ever gets made. The proportion is skewed.

Btw, people who critique Islam and its Prophet get killed or banished. So..hardly a fair comparison.

The thing is, when you constantly vilify one side and paint the other side as eternal victims, totally neglecting the shit they do, people will raise questions. The propaganda isn't even subtle.

I heard it has lot of abusive, violence and sexual scenes. So I avoided watching it.

Nobody should be touchy about their religion. Religion and faith are extremely personal. What others comment about it, one should not be affected by it.

Artists and filmmakers should have the creative liberty in a democracy. Constructive criticism is good but they should not be jailed or lynched for their art.

Originally posted by: heartbleed

I heard it has lot of abusive, violence and sexual scenes. So I avoided watching it.

Nobody should be touchy about their religion. Religion and faith are extremely personal. What others comment about it, one should not be affected by it.

Artists and filmmakers should have the creative liberty in a democracy. Constructive criticism is good but they should not be jailed or lynched for their art.

Nobody is asking anyone to be jailed or lynched. Hindu radicals, however abusive are not there yet unlike Islamic radicals who will threaten to behead you or get you exiled if you say anything against their Prophet.

Creative freedom is a must. But I as a viewer also have the right to speak out against what I perceive as skewed viewpoints.

Depends on how you define Anti Hindu.

It should be kept in mind that in spite of all the supposed Hindu bashing it does, the main character of the show is a Hindu. They use Hindu mythology as a metaphorical device for the hero and the anti hero. The writers of the show aren't idiots, they have very smartly appealed to centrist sensibilities.

It should also be kept in mind that the Hindu characters are the most fleshed out and you get full back story about them. We know about Haathiram's family, Sanjeev Mehra's family, Tyagi's family, Tope Singh's family. We never know about Ansari's family and he was practically second male lead (background about Kabir M is given but only to give him sad back story)

People are saying the show is Hinduphobic because it shows Islamophobia and casteism. Aren't these realities of Hindu society? Do we not tell our children that they should marry people of the same religion and caste? Do we not judge Muslims and Christians for being non vegetarian even though amongst Hindus it is primarily the Brahmin minority which is vegetarian and other Hindus consume beef, etc. Do people not get lynched over food preferences? Do upper caste men not rape lower caste women? Truth is always bitter to swallow.

Ismein people will do whataboutery saying 'ya but Muslims also kill Hindus, lower caste men also rape, sadhus get lynched, etc. Etc' that's true. We live in a violent society. But the difference is in institutional power. Look at the composition of Parliament, media houses, business companies. There is barely any lower-caste, Muslim or female representation. People are criticizing the show for saying police and govt. Is corrupt. If you live in a country where majority of the powerful people are Hindus, then villains will be Hindus only na. If I live in Saudi Arabia and criticize their government, does it mean I'm Islamophobic? alternatively, if you think criticizing the government makes you Hinduphobic then you are basically admitting that we are a Hindutva country which proves the makers' point about minorities being in danger.

I'm not saying the show is perfect. There is obviously a certain degree of audience manipulation involved. But no Indian TV show has ever had the guts to expose these things. This is the reality of our nation, you can accept it or continue living in the Matrix.

Also the show doesn't pretend that left liberal media is any better. The point of showcasing a character like Sanjeev Mehra is to show that even left liberal spaces are run by powerful, rich, elitist upper caste men and their boardrooms are also monopolized by political and family connections. The show has called out left liberal hypocrisy and hypocrisy in caste politics also.

The point of the show was not that Hindus are bad and only leftists are good. The point of the show was that people in power will keep making fools out of the masses and the truth will always be beyond our reach. If you are criticizing the show for being Hindu phobic, congrats you are also falling into the trap which this system sets for you-which is to keep obsessing over your identity politics while rich men profit.

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