I saw a lot of reviews accusing it of Hinduphobia. How true is it?
I saw a lot of reviews accusing it of Hinduphobia. How true is it?
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It is what it is.
A pseudo liberal take, where are running a marginalized people sympathy p0rn. The show tries to make it like everyone is a victim of this Hindu culture empowering the upper class Hindus, and even the government agencies are working with upper class Hindu politicians who run the show. So in that way it is anti-Hindu, but than again, anti-Hindu is the new cool these days for the wannabe crusaders in social media, film industry and press, because right wing has a religion in India, and that is Hindusim. Attack the religion, you attack right wing. Typical pseudo liberal mentality.
But watch the show without trying to find the political angle, you will enjoy it. It is a decent show, and has some outstanding acting work.
Honestly I didnt even really notice this phobia when I saw it. Its only when people began making noise about it that I sort of tried to surmise if there was. I really dont think there was anything like that. Yes there are things about caste based discrimination and problems --- but it is what it is -- this really exists -- so I dont understand the hue and cry. Like the above post said nowadays if you show anything about HIndus even slightly negative there is a hue and cry even if it is true. And Im saying this being more right wing than left wing. People unnecessarily create issues about everything nowadays. I think it was a great piece of work and especially appreciated the animal love angle of it being an animal lover.
I love what Babasaheb Ambedkar had to say about problematic aspects of Hinduism and Islam:
Ambedkar on Hinduism
I like to assure the Mahatma that it is not the mere failure of the Hindus and Hinduism which has produced in me the feelings of disgust and contempt with which I am charged. I realise that the world is an imperfect world and anyone who wants to live in it must bear with its imperfections. But while I am. prepared to bear with the imperfections and shortcomings of the society in which I may be destined to labour, I feel I should not consent to live in a society which cherishes wrong ideals or a society which having right ideals will not consent to bring its social life in conformity with those ideals. If I am disgusted with Hindus and Hinduism it is because I am convinced that they cherish wrong ideals and live a wrong social life. My quarrel with Hindus and Hinduism is not over the imperfections of their social conduct. It is much more fundamental. It is over their ideals.
I didn’t launch the temple entry movement because I wanted the Depressed Classes to become worshipers of idols which they were prevented from worshiping or because I believed temple entry would make them equal members in and an integral part of the Hindu Society. So far as this aspect of the case is concerned I would advise the Depressed Classes to insist upon a complete overhauling of Hindu Society and Hindu theology before they consent to become an integral part of Hindu Society. I started temple entry Satyagraha only because I felt that was the best way of energising the Depressed Classes and making them conscious of their position. As I believe I have achieved that purpose I have no more use for temple entry. I want the Depressed Classes to concentrate their energy and resource on politics and education and I hope that they will realise the importance of both.
Ambedkar on Islam
If Islam and Hinduism keep Muslims and Hindus apart in the matter of their faith, they also prevent their social assimilation. That Hinduism prohibits intermarriage between Hindus and Muslims is quite well known. This narrow-mindedness is not the vice of Hinduism only. Islam is equally narrow in its social code. It also prohibits intermarriage between Muslims and Hindus. With these social laws, there can be no social assimilation and consequently no socialisation of ways, modes and outlooks, no blunting of the edges and no modulation of age-old angularities.
There are other defects in Hinduism and in Islam which are responsible for keeping the score between Hindus and Muslims open and running. Hinduism is said to divide people and in contrast, Islam is said to bind people together. This is only a half truth. For Islam divides as inexorably as it binds. Islam is a close corporation and the distinction that it makes between Muslims and non-Muslims is a very real, very positive and very alienating distinction. The brotherhood of Islam is not the universal brotherhood of man. It is the brotherhood of Muslims for Muslims only. There is a fraternity, but its benefit is confined to those within that corporation. For those who are outside the corporation, there is nothing but contempt and enmity. The second defect of Islam is that it is a system of social self-government and is incompatible with local self-government because the allegiance of a Muslim does not rest on his domicile in the country which is his but on the faith to which he belongs. To the Muslim ibi bene ibi patria is unthinkable. Wherever there is the rule of Islam, there is his own country. In other words, Islam can never allow a true Muslim to adopt India as his motherland and regard a Hindu as his kith and kin. That is probably the reason why Maulana Mahomed Ali, a great Indian but a true Muslim, preferred to be buried in Jerusalem rather than in India.
https://thelogicalindian.com/opinion/br-ambedkar-on-hinduism-and-islam/?infinitescroll=1
Originally posted by: RegressiveThug
It is what it is.
A pseudo liberal take, where are running a marginalized people sympathy p0rn. The show tries to make it like everyone is a victim of this Hindu culture empowering the upper class Hindus, and even the government agencies are working with upper class Hindu politicians who run the show. So in that way it is anti-Hindu, but than again, anti-Hindu is the new cool these days for the wannabe crusaders in social media, film industry and press, because right wing has a religion in India, and that is Hindusim. Attack the religion, you attack right wing. Typical pseudo liberal mentality.
But watch the show without trying to find the political angle, you will enjoy it. It is a decent show, and has some outstanding acting work.
But why should we ignore the political angle? These kinds of Hinduphonic webseries are growing in number by the day. Isnt it time we raised our voice against this?
Originally posted by: chachichampa
Honestly I didnt even really notice this phobia when I saw it. Its only when people began making noise about it that I sort of tried to surmise if there was. I really dont think there was anything like that. Yes there are things about caste based discrimination and problems --- but it is what it is -- this really exists -- so I dont understand the hue and cry. Like the above post said nowadays if you show anything about HIndus even slightly negative there is a hue and cry even if it is true. And Im saying this being more right wing than left wing. People unnecessarily create issues about everything nowadays. I think it was a great piece of work and especially appreciated the animal love angle of it being an animal lover.
Well it shows Hindus as communal, biased and prejudiced. And Muslims as the eternal victims. And they also attack aspects of the Hindu religion which they will never dare do with Muslims or Islam.
Originally posted by: Mahisa22
But why should we ignore the political angle? These kinds of Hinduphonic webseries are growing in number by the day. Isnt it time we raised our voice against this?
Not for me tbh, see if people are running anti-Hindu web series, let them. They aren't going to change shit. Movies don't change society. Society change movies.
See the thing is, if we don't notice it, it doesn't exist. Do we really have to care about what few uptight snowflakes with their communist ideals think? No seriously no. Let them be, don't give them the attention they carve for.
Originally posted by: RegressiveThug
Not for me tbh, see if people are running anti-Hindu web series, let them. They aren't going to change shit. Movies don't change society. Society change movies.
See the thing is, if we don't notice it, it doesn't exist. Do we really have to care about what few uptight snowflakes with their communist ideals think? No seriously no. Let them be, don't give them the attention they carve for.
Ignoring sometimes also leads to monopolizing. For example, look at the academic sector. The left liberal intelligentsia had dominated the higher education sector for decades in India, shutting out neutral and/or right-wing academicians such as Sita Ram Goel, Jagdish Bhagwati, RC Majumdar etc. They even tried to change historical facts to suit their Muslim appeasement agenda, such as introducing that atrocious "Truth about temple destruction" by Richard Eaton (look it up if you can).
Right now, the internet space is also dominated and almost monopolized by these leftist nutjobs. If we ignore this kind of sublime anti-Hindu propaganda and let them off without any kind of counter-narrative, then the web space will also come to be fully dominated by them.
Originally posted by: Mahisa22
Ignoring sometimes also leads to monopolizing. For example, look at the academic sector. The left liberal intelligentsia had dominated the higher education sector for decades in India, shutting out neutral and/or right-wing academicians such as Sita Ram Goel, Jagdish Bhagwati, RC Majumdar etc. They even tried to change historical facts to suit their Muslim appeasement agenda, such as introducing that atrocious "Truth about temple destruction" by Richard Eaton (look it up if you can).
Right now, the internet space is also dominated and almost monopolized by these leftist nutjobs. If we ignore this kind of sublime anti-Hindu propaganda and let them off without any kind of counter-narrative, then the web space will also come to be fully dominated by them.
Originally posted by: chachichampa
Honestly I didnt even really notice this phobia when I saw it. Its only when people began making noise about it that I sort of tried to surmise if there was. I really dont think there was anything like that. Yes there are things about caste based discrimination and problems --- but it is what it is -- this really exists -- so I dont understand the hue and cry. Like the above post said nowadays if you show anything about HIndus even slightly negative there is a hue and cry even if it is true. And Im saying this being more right wing than left wing. People unnecessarily create issues about everything nowadays. I think it was a great piece of work and especially appreciated the animal love angle of it being an animal lover.
The objection isn't the portrayal of these things that exist in society, it's the narrative, an extremely leftist skewed one where Hindus are shown to be the the root cause of all the problems in society, and the Muslim is a victim of this society.
The bias is so blatent and obvious in the show that its laughable. Anyone who is bigoted, communal, corrupt, fanatical on this show is a Hindu, that's not just a coincidence. 😆
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