#HummaHummaHumma|KuKu|KaVik AT 3 - Page 63

Originally posted by: Samanalyse

I am probably getting repeptitive, but this is the beauty of their sort of opposite journeys. Kuhu wanted to be Kunal's wife but is constantly confronted with the fact that she is so much more than that, Kunal never wanted to give in to his own desires and live solely for others, but he finds himself on this journey to being Kuhu's husband.

@bold: beautifully summed up the kuku story👍🏼

Originally posted by: lopli

I am so glad that I am not the only one who thinks this. From the last couple dance sequence where KuBir have been in one frame, I have thought about how they would look opposite each other.

I find them both insanely hot

infact its good that they are paired with different leads, I find rhea cute & ritvik cool😛

so hotness balance ho jaati hai dono couples ki as per itv standards🤪

else kaveri with shaheer will make great pairing for a web series where their hotness can be exploited better😈

Originally posted by: Nikki_wanderer

That look they exchanged ❤️❤️

I always wondered why Kunal looked at Kuhu like that. Kuhu's feelings for Kunal were clear at this point in the story but Kunal was ready to marry Mishti, so why did he look at Kuhu longingly?

Sorry for spamming.

Here is my 2 cents on how I saw the KuKu story develop. Kuhu became attracted to Kunal in the sports car scene. When she realized that the rishta was of Kunal she got super excited, because how many times does that happen, that you feel attracted to some stranger, then might end up meeting them.

Abir convinced Kunal to move on, by throwing him into the water and then he meets Kuhu and they have a conversation. Kunal sorts of becomes attracted to her carefree personality, she is the opposite of him and this works for him. Then when they go to Maheswari's for rishta, he admired Kuhu, but then Meenakshi pulls her stunts and he see the disappointed look on Kuhu and he mirrors that, but he doesn't defy. Slowly Kuku becomes friends, because of their opposing personalities and Kunal needs the little push.

But comes the time when he has to use Kuhu for his plan, he has somewhat of a hard time, because he has considered her as a friend, but his guilt is covered by the fact that Meenu and Abir are more important. Those words he says during the first SR is because he is already frustrated with the event that occurred and now he wants Kuhu to hate him so she will leave. When Kuhu doesn't for her own reasons, he is taken back, because its something he didn't expect despite being the villain in her life. Slowly as they live together, Kuhu's ability spread love and laughter around her makes everyone in Rajvansh family happy and this makes Kunal appreciate her. He starts to like her presence in the house, he starts to accept this marriage after the leap, because he has become used to having Kuhu around. The offsite meeting kind of made him see the importance of Kuhu in his life, because she was someone who cared for him, was there for him.

Slowly as the divorce date came close, Kunal realized that the change was going to come and he tried to prevent it. He apologized to Kuhu, and her family thinking that was enough to keep her, and IT WAS. Kunal only had a day with his thoughts, and he acted impulsively for himself, his family and somewhat for Abir, which is why I have a hard time seeing his feelings as love.

The scene where he questions himself as to why he wants to keep Kuhu in his life, he doesn't justify it as being in love with her, he just says that he doesn't want her in his life just because of Abir. Now he has gotten Kuhu so easily in his life for the second time, he takes her for granted.

Sorry this post is mostly from Kunal's perspective.

Originally posted by: peacenfun

I find them both insanely hot

infact its good that they are paired with different leads, I find rhea cute & ritvik cool😛

so hotness balance ho jaati hai dono couples ki as per itv standards🤪

else kaveri with shaheer will make great pairing for a web series where their hotness can be exploited better😈

@bold- Definitely, maybe a finite medical series or a revenge series.

Originally posted by: lopli

Sorry for spamming.

Here is my 2 cents on how I saw the KuKu story develop. Kuhu became attracted to Kunal in the sports car scene. When she realized that the rishta was of Kunal she got super excited, because how many times does that happen, that you feel attracted to some stranger, then might end up meeting them.

Abir convinced Kunal to move on, by throwing him into the water and then he meets Kuhu and they have a conversation. Kunal sorts of becomes attracted to her carefree personality, she is the opposite of him and this works for him. Then when they go to Maheswari's for rishta, he admired Kuhu, but then Meenakshi pulls her stunts and he see the disappointed look on Kuhu and he mirrors that, but he doesn't defy. Slowly Kuku becomes friends, because of their opposing personalities and Kunal needs the little push.

But comes the time when he has to use Kuhu for his plan, he has somewhat of a hard time, because he has considered her as a friend, but his guilt is covered by the fact that Meenu and Abir are more important. Those words he says during the first SR is because he is already frustrated with the event that occurred and now he wants Kuhu to hate him so she will leave. When Kuhu doesn't for her own reasons, he is taken back, because its something he didn't expect despite being the villain in her life. Slowly as they live together, Kuhu's ability spread love and laughter around her makes everyone in Rajvansh family happy and this makes Kunal appreciate her. He starts to like her presence in the house, he starts to accept this marriage after the leap, because he has become used to having Kuhu around. The offsite meeting kind of made him see the importance of Kuhu in his life, because she was someone who cared for him, was there for him.

Slowly as the divorce date came close, Kunal realized that the change was going to come and he tried to prevent it. He apologized to Kuhu, and her family thinking that was enough to keep her, and IT WAS. Kunal only had a day with his thoughts, and he acted impulsively for himself, his family and somewhat for Abir, which is why I have a hard time seeing his feelings as love.

The scene where he questions himself as to why he wants to keep Kuhu in his life, he doesn't justify it as being in love with her, he just says that he doesn't want her in his life just because of Abir. Now he has gotten Kuhu so easily in his life for the second time, he takes her for granted.

Sorry this post is mostly from Kunal's perspective.

It's really interesting you see their story that way, and it actually helps me make sense of why I feel like Kunal doesn't really love Kuhu at this point, and why I'm dying for him to actually verbalize it in front of her. Maybe he loves her subconsciously, but he just doesn't have the maturity or the experience to truly understand what love actually is, so that's why he hesitates to openly come out and say it. Maybe he saw his marriage with her as nothing but a point of ease and convenience for him and his family. Maybe he was never interested in a romantic relationship with anyone after Shweta's betrayal, and he doesn't see what he has with Kuhu as anything beyond once-in-a-blue-moon physical attraction and free, one-way emotional support from her side.

My point with all of these hypotheticals is that Kunal really hasn't been given the space in this story to explore his feelings, so we're left to fill in the blanks. He barely feels secure in any of his relationships, so he allows the one relationship he feels secure in (that is, his relationship with his brother) to dictate how he defines all of his other relationships, and the choices he makes to either build, or destroy those relationships.

This brings me to an unpopular opinion that I have: I didn't really love the scene where Abir is tossing around stuff in Kunal's room after Kuhu leaves to goad Kunal into saying that he wants Kuhu to stay. For one thing, if Abir hadn't thought to step in, Kunal and Kuhu would more than likely be divorced now (again proving my point about how much of an influence Abir has over Kunal's other relationships). Also, Kunal cites his reason for wanting Kuhu to stay as her becoming an integral part of his family ever since their marriage. Nothing more than that. I think this drives home the point that Sam made a while back: Kunal and Kuhu will always be one of those "khandani" couples; they look gorgeous together, but it would be useless to imagine that they could ever become one of those lovey-dovey couples.

Originally posted by: lopli

Sorry for spamming.

Here is my 2 cents on how I saw the KuKu story develop. Kuhu became attracted to Kunal in the sports car scene. When she realized that the rishta was of Kunal she got super excited, because how many times does that happen, that you feel attracted to some stranger, then might end up meeting them.

Abir convinced Kunal to move on, by throwing him into the water and then he meets Kuhu and they have a conversation. Kunal sorts of becomes attracted to her carefree personality, she is the opposite of him and this works for him. Then when they go to Maheswari's for rishta, he admired Kuhu, but then Meenakshi pulls her stunts and he see the disappointed look on Kuhu and he mirrors that, but he doesn't defy. Slowly Kuku becomes friends, because of their opposing personalities and Kunal needs the little push.

But comes the time when he has to use Kuhu for his plan, he has somewhat of a hard time, because he has considered her as a friend, but his guilt is covered by the fact that Meenu and Abir are more important. Those words he says during the first SR is because he is already frustrated with the event that occurred and now he wants Kuhu to hate him so she will leave. When Kuhu doesn't for her own reasons, he is taken back, because its something he didn't expect despite being the villain in her life. Slowly as they live together, Kuhu's ability spread love and laughter around her makes everyone in Rajvansh family happy and this makes Kunal appreciate her. He starts to like her presence in the house, he starts to accept this marriage after the leap, because he has become used to having Kuhu around. The offsite meeting kind of made him see the importance of Kuhu in his life, because she was someone who cared for him, was there for him.

Slowly as the divorce date came close, Kunal realized that the change was going to come and he tried to prevent it. He apologized to Kuhu, and her family thinking that was enough to keep her, and IT WAS. Kunal only had a day with his thoughts, and he acted impulsively for himself, his family and somewhat for Abir, which is why I have a hard time seeing his feelings as love.

The scene where he questions himself as to why he wants to keep Kuhu in his life, he doesn't justify it as being in love with her, he just says that he doesn't want her in his life just because of Abir. Now he has gotten Kuhu so easily in his life for the second time, he takes her for granted.

Sorry this post is mostly from Kunal's perspective.

now along with character development in Kunal I also want to see an improvement in his EQ levels, hope the writers are listening

this post can definitely be from kunal's perspective

but as viewer it was clear that he was falling for her during their friendship phase, their was a scene of kuku in the car after their musical night at the pub where mishbir sing 'saathiya mere', therein during kuku's conversation kunal compliments kuhu 'tum apni life mein kaafi sorted ho' & he thinks in his head, 'ye apni behan se kitni alag hai, baat sun bhi rahi hai aur samajh bhi rahi hai', so for the things that he hated mishti like manmani, zid, arguments, he liked kuhu because he found her being totally opposite of mishti in all those things

@bold: see there are 3-4 scenes where kunal has mentioned about his feelings for kuhu, so the 1st one was that back hug scene, where he imagines kuhu & is shocked for his imagination, that makes him doubt about his feelings for her

so he says 'kya main kuhu ko like karne laga hun' & then 'pata nahi kuchh samajh nahi aa raha bas itna pata hai ki kuhu mujhe chhodkar na jaye'

then there was this scene where he gifts her the saree, just before that he has this conversation with parul maasi where he realises 'jab bhai aur mishti ek fresh start kar sakte hain toh main aur kuhu kyun nahi, par jo maine kuhu ke saath kiya kya uske baad wo mere saath kisi bhi tarah ki life banana chahegi?'

and after gifting her the saree, standing outside the room he thinks 'please kuhu mere liye wo saree pehan lo' (my understanding is that kuhu wearing his saree would mean for kunal, her acceptance to give their marriage a 2nd chance)

but kuhu doesnt wear the saree so he goes & confronts her 'meri feelings ki koi bhi importance nahi hai'

again he complains 'tumhe real feelings ki value nahi hai, jaise mere gift uss saree ki nahi ki', during mishbir sangeet theme discussion on terrace

then again he tries to gift her that saree during sangeet, I mean why was he so stuck on her accepting that saree? clearly for him it meant more than just being a gift

then after that divorce fiasco, while he is getting ready for his 2nd wedding abir asks him about his love confession/proposal to kuhu & he replies 'itna kuchh ho gaya wo khud hi samajh gayi hogi'

and then during that coffee spiking night, abir again teases kunal 'isne abhi tak kuhu ko i love you bhi nahi bola'

and then in recent episode when abhinal are planning mishku union, he says 'aap love ki baat kar rahe ho mujhe toh ye bhi nahi pata ki kuhu mujhe like bhi karti hai'

so my conclusions are:

1. (at this stage) with a person like kunal who has a zero EQ level, I do not expect a love confession or his acknowledgement of love for kuhu every now & then, I mean the man married her without confessing his love, without proposing her, with just 1 'karta hun' in front of both families, so I dont think even Kuhu expects him saying 'I love you' every now & then

and even after seeing how Kuhu has stood by him & accepted him inspite of all that he did to her & is still doing to her, he was still doubting about her feelings for him

just proves how much emotionally challenged he is

2. but in initial episodes after their 2nd wedding he was quite expressive & caring towards Kuhu, remember during shivratri he asked her 'preparations mein poori raat lag jayegi tumhe chalega na'

and during pehli rasoi when kuhu got uncomfortable seeing walnut brownie, he was the 1st to sense her discomfort & check on her

but things took a u-turn since coffee spiking incident so I think this continous family drama reminded him of returning to his 'peace-maintainence' duty of their house & kunal being a one-dimensional guy, who has just 1 track mind, has taken on the rjv son's duty track once again

@meera: if abir had not interfered then I think the things would have sorted more peacefully

even if we delete that scene of abir throwing things around & pushing kunal to win kuhu back

then we are left with other scenes, 1st that back hug scene where kunal clearly says that he doesnt know what he feels for kuhu but doesnt want her to go

but kuhu still leaves

so lets assume abir has not listened to their conversation about their divorce, so next scene is kunal in his room in front of dresser, sad & upset after kuhu leaves

then in abir's haldi kunal is upset & trying to enjoy reluctantly

then inside abir's room post haldi when he gets text from kuhu 'mujhe abhi aa kar milo nahi toh main samjhungi tum mujhe seedha 3 baje court mein miloge'

so if abir hadnt interfered & texted 'main nahi aaunga' & then planned that cross dressing & ishqzaade sequence, even then kunal would have gone to meet kuhu, infact he was ready to go right away but abir interfered, so if kuku had got a chance to meet then wouldnt they talk & decide to postpone or cancel the divorce, infact it would have been a more mature solution, drama free & straight-forward

Originally posted by: journalgirl321

It's really interesting you see their story that way, and it actually helps me make sense of why I feel like Kunal doesn't really love Kuhu at this point, and why I'm dying for him to actually verbalize it in front of her. Maybe he loves her subconsciously, but he just doesn't have the maturity or the experience to truly understand what love actually is, so that's why he hesitates to openly come out and say it. Maybe he saw his marriage with her as nothing but a point of ease and convenience for him and his family. Maybe he was never interested in a romantic relationship with anyone after Shweta's betrayal, and he doesn't see what he has with Kuhu as anything beyond once-in-a-blue-moon physical attraction and free, one-way emotional support from her side.

My point with all of these hypotheticals is that Kunal really hasn't been given the space in this story to explore his feelings, so we're left to fill in the blanks. He barely feels secure in any of his relationships, so he allows the one relationship he feels secure in (that is, his relationship with his brother) to dictate how he defines all of his other relationships, and the choices he makes to either build, or destroy those relationships.

This brings me to an unpopular opinion that I have: I didn't really love the scene where Abir is tossing around stuff in Kunal's room after Kuhu leaves to goad Kunal into saying that he wants Kuhu to stay. For one thing, if Abir hadn't thought to step in, Kunal and Kuhu would more than likely be divorced now (again proving my point about how much of an influence Abir has over Kunal's other relationships). Also, Kunal cites his reason for wanting Kuhu to stay as her becoming an integral part of his family ever since their marriage. Nothing more than that. I think this drives home the point that Sam made a while back: Kunal and Kuhu will always be one of those "khandani" couples; they look gorgeous together, but it would be useless to imagine that they could ever become one of those lovey-dovey couples.

@bold- I didn't like that scene either, first of Abir was over-reacting, also it disturbed Kunal's thought process. He saw first-hand what Kuhu leaving would do, Abir would be unhappy, and that was just one person of the Rajvansh family. He knew how mami would react, thanks to scene before off-site meeting. This is exactly why I didn't want Abir to be involved, I wanted Kunal to have more time to think through his feelings, that were not influenced by outside forces.

Originally posted by: journalgirl321

My point with all of these hypotheticals is that Kunal really hasn't been given the space in this story to explore his feelings, so we're left to fill in the blanks. He barely feels secure in any of his relationships, so he allows the one relationship he feels secure in (that is, his relationship with his brother) to dictate how he defines all of his other relationships, and the choices he makes to either build, or destroy those relationships.

This brings me to an unpopular opinion that I have: I didn't really love the scene where Abir is tossing around stuff in Kunal's room after Kuhu leaves to goad Kunal into saying that he wants Kuhu to stay. For one thing, if Abir hadn't thought to step in, Kunal and Kuhu would more than likely be divorced now (again proving my point about how much of an influence Abir has over Kunal's other relationships). Also, Kunal cites his reason for wanting Kuhu to stay as her becoming an integral part of his family ever since their marriage. Nothing more than that. I think this drives home the point that Sam made a while back: Kunal and Kuhu will always be one of those "khandani" couples; they look gorgeous together, but it would be useless to imagine that they could ever become one of those lovey-dovey couples.

I think this is totally spot on, Meera! At least the way it's how I read the story, both from within the universe of the show and the mechanics of the writing. Kunal also came to the brink of losing that one relationship he trusts, with Abir, so he is extra vigilant to make that his first priority now -- which explains him giving into the pressure of calling Parul "ma" and being extra nice to Mishti. Like he said, he was stupid to ask Abir to choose between him and Mishti and he doesn't ever want to make such a "mistake" again. I don't see it as a "mistake" and think it was perfectly reasonable to have a problem with his brother dating a girl who dumped him, but Kunal has internalised the fact that if a situation is not harmonious, he's the one responsible for fixing it.

@bold: I think the key for me is that being a khandani couple doesn't make them less love-dovey, but rather lovey-dovey in a different way. Their love story is wrapped up in their family because that is what Kunal's life revolves around, and Kuhu discovered the best version of herself as RV bahu. Kunal thought that if he fell in love, it would always be his love vs. his devotion to his family. That's why even though he always had feelings for Kuhu, they were irrelevant to him until she became an indispensible part of the family. And I still believe that Kuhu decided to stay in the marriage as much for the family as for Kunal, because for her the relationship hasn't been about just him since he revealed his true intentions on their first night.

@Peace: I should just keep waiting for you to reply 😆 You put everything down so systematically with perfect examples! I completely agree both that Kunal is back in one-track, peace-making mode after all the family drama, and that the divorce matter would have been sorted with much less drama had Abir not interfered. Why telling Kuhu he wasn't coming and then cross-dressing instead was a better idea than just meeting her and talking it out is something I will never understand. 🤔

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Originally posted by: peacenfun

now along with character development in Kunal I also want to see an improvement in his EQ levels, hope the writers are listening- For sure Kunal needs to be able to express his emotions, not just for Kuhu, but for all situations he is put in.

but as viewer it was clear that he was falling for her during their friendship phase, their was a scene of kuku in the car after their musical night at the pub where mishbir sing 'saathiya mere', therein during kuku's conversation kunal compliments kuhu 'tum apni life mein kaafi sorted ho' & he thinks in his head, 'ye apni behan se kitni alag hai, baat sun bhi rahi hai aur samajh bhi rahi hai', so for the things that he hated mishti like manmani, zid, arguments, he liked kuhu because he found her being totally opposite of mishti in all those things - I view those scenes from a different lenses, they were platonic from Kunal's perspective, he liked Kuhu yes but not in the sense she liked him. I believe when Meenu rejected Kuhu as a prospective for Kunal, he could no longer view her as someone he could be with, especially when he knew his Meenu would oppose this.

@bold: see there are 3-4 scenes where kunal has mentioned about his feelings for kuhu, so the 1st one was that back hug scene, where he imagines kuhu & is shocked for his imagination, that makes him doubt about his feelings for her - Yes and this is the scene, I wanted an extension for. Kunal to have enough time to explore his feelings, even if it were just a developed affection for Kuhu which is why he can't let her leave.

then there was this scene where he gifts her the saree, just before that he has this conversation with parul maasi where he realises 'jab bhai aur mishti ek fresh start kar sakte hain toh main aur kuhu kyun nahi, par jo maine kuhu ke saath kiya kya uske baad wo mere saath kisi bhi tarah ki life banana chahegi?' - This one I agree with, he questioned his actions and if they could be forgiven, but it wasn't about his feelings.

and after gifting her the saree, standing outside the room he thinks 'please kuhu mere liye wo saree pehan lo' (my understanding is that kuhu wearing his saree would mean for kunal, her acceptance to give their marriage a 2nd chance)

but kuhu doesnt wear the saree so he goes & confronts her 'meri feelings ki koi bhi importance nahi hai'

again he complains 'tumhe real feelings ki value nahi hai, jaise mere gift uss saree ki nahi ki', during mishbir sangeet theme discussion on terrace - Again what feelings are we talking about, like Abir mentioned is Kuhu supposed to read his mind?

Like you mentioned its mostly because of his EQ, but I feel its lower just for Kuhu. He has a higher leve EQ for Abir, he was so broken when he had an argument with Abir or when Abir left to find Mehul and also for Mishti, now that they are one unit.

Kuhu could yell what she wants from Kunal, from the rooftop and Kunal still wouldn't understand.