Bollywood Forum CC#32 (DT Note pg. 143) - Page 51

Originally posted by: rkisnothot

No, you initially said their concern is fake because they watch movies and listen to music and party. I guess that's no longer your argument? Now you seem to be saying they don't given their opinions enough. It is fake because they only showed concerned right now instead of regularly giving their opinion? So if they talked about political matters twice a week, would that be enough to quality their concern as real? I suspect in that case, you would say stupid people like influencers should mind their own business and not get into politics.

We've moved away from music and movies now, right?

I'm trying to figure out what they could possibly do that would make their opinion real. Nothing, right? They can do nothing that would make you accept it as real.

Are you that dumb or just trying to poke unnecessary... When did I say that?? Read properly first.

I said the very next moment of random posting status that influencers was having party. There is timing and if someone is that concerned of something ongoing will be more indulgent like we are discussing or Sindhu or Thugs here were having conversations..

We all here judge celebrity actions based on our understanding..it seemed fake to me .. u don't feel like it so be it.

Originally posted by: Zeal17

Do you really think some one who was running to save their lives will from someone will accept them wholeheartedly ever?

Thanks for the honesty. So you admit that you will never accept Muslims. That's okay. You don't need to. Nobody is asking that you move them into your house or marry them or even become friends with them. What they do expect is fairness when it comes to laws in the country where other religions do not automatically become second-class citizens. That's generally what the right-wing wants to do in every country they lead. It's the same in the US where Trump wants anyone who is not White Christian to be considered less than.

If we go back in history, almost all groups have been persecuted in some way or another. After what Hitler and the German gentiles did to Jews, they should also never accept them, right? But generally speaking, it's better to heal wounds instead of seeking revenge if you're looking for peace. Holding onto past enmity just creates more of it in the present.

Originally posted by: Zeal17

What are you saying makes no sense either. Can say same thing about your argument as well. I am questioning them because influencer role is not just putting a status for only when something "IT" is happening in country and rest of the time don't even bother.

My grandparents house was marked by muslims and if they had not ran away that night... (you know what would have been the outcome)... No doubt we have come a long way from independence and infact i myself dont relate to any religion now. But overall our parents n grandparents generations have suffered and were asked to suppress this suffering in the name of secularism. Do you really think some one who was running to save their lives will from someone will accept them wholeheartedly ever?

You are generalising here.... everyone's reaction to partition ,riots is very different and doesn't necessarily mean they suppress their real feelings to uphold secularism ....also many from that era believe showing hatred towards a certain community lifelong won't bring back what they lost.

Originally posted by: Zeal17

Are you that dumb or just trying to poke unnecessary...

Now that you can't justify yourself and your argument is going for a toss, you resort to getting rude and personal. You said very clearly that influencers posted (fake) concern and your reasoning was that they were partying soon after. I'm out.

Originally posted by: rkisnothot

Thanks for the honesty. So you admit that you will never accept Muslims. That's okay. You don't need to. Nobody is asking that you move them into your house or marry them or even become friends with them. What they do expect is fairness when it comes to laws in the country where other religions do not automatically become second-class citizens. That's generally what the right-wing wants to do in every country they lead. It's the same in the US where Trump wants anyone who is not White Christian to be considered less than.

If we go back in history, almost all groups have been persecuted in some way or another. After what Hitler and the German gentiles did to Jews, they should also never accept them, right? But generally speaking, it's better to heal wounds instead of seeking revenge if you're looking for peace. Holding onto past enmity just creates more of it in the present.

Selective qouting? Had no guts to post my previous part. Admit it you are a random keyboard warrior. My family has been through what you are just looking through tweets n posts on social media. So yes we all who have suffered have an underline outrage within which was forced to suppresed.

Very callously you have written the last part that I don't feel like addressing it. I never justified the violence n revenge. I don't go around killing any random Muslim I see on street.

I support CAA coz if it was to be launched at that time of Independence my grandparents would have been on that list.

Unless you or your loved ones have gone through it and understand the gravity of issue don't just assume n impose on judge others

Originally posted by: AllThatCritique

When Pulwama happened, did Indians all resign from their jobs and sit at home crying for the armymen? Did they stop living their lives? Am sure they didn't. So we should be tag their concern and mourning as fake then?

This is the twitter strategy. I see it constantly.

If you express a different opinion, it's either fake or stupid. See, they are partying the next day so they don't care. Or people in the entertainment industry can't speak up because they are stupid and should concentrate on their work. As if the twitter warriors are members of Mensa themselves.

Originally posted by: rkisnothot

Thanks for the honesty. So you admit that you will never accept Muslims. That's okay. You don't need to. Nobody is asking that you move them into your house or marry them or even become friends with them. What they do expect is fairness when it comes to laws in the country where other religions do not automatically become second-class citizens. That's generally what the right-wing wants to do in every country they lead. It's the same in the US where Trump wants anyone who is not White Christian to be considered less than.

If we go back in history, almost all groups have been persecuted in some way or another. After what Hitler and the German gentiles did to Jews, they should also never accept them, right? But generally speaking, it's better to heal wounds instead of seeking revenge if you're looking for peace. Holding onto past enmity just creates more of it in the present.

The cycle of hatred and oppression never dies down unfortunately. Just the vessels are different Even the Jews did not learn from their own persecution. They turned into zionists and are doing the exact same thing to Palestinians.

Originally posted by: LiveEatLove

You are generalising here.... everyone's reaction to partition ,riots is very different and doesn't necessarily mean they suppress their real feelings to uphold secularism ....also many from that era believe showing hatred towards a certain community lifelong won't bring back what they lost.

When did I say I support hatret n violence.. I am.not justifying what's happening in Delhi either. Throughout the discussins I have maintained that I support CAA and NRC. Will continue bro do so irrespective of some keyboard warriors here have to say.

I was just watching Lust Stories again and realized that Kiara's character uses Neha's used dildo in the film.

Originally posted by: Khai_R_Haagi

I was just watching Lust Stories again and realized that Kiara's character uses Neha's used dildo in the film.

It's a vibrator. Not a dildo 😛