Ep 56: Jab bhi khud ko sameti hu, woh har baar mujhe tod deta hai - Page 2

Originally posted by: pomegranate

what shruthi said was right. In order to enjoy in this show, you really have to understand the character's mindset and not just go by their actions. Nowadays, I do just that.

Makers are building up to a watershed moment with Maya's fear but it is getting too much now. Just from an entertainment perspective, it is repetitive. Hopefully something will change by the end of this week, while I sit back and wait.

I agree, Maya ka rona dhona aur torture hona is getting repetitive.🤢 And I also hope that something will change at the end of the week. I hope nothing happens to Rudra.🤔

MJ🤢 His constant touches are part lust and part intimidation, all this is probably foreplay to him. Let's say he manages to subdue Maya, would he kill her or intimidate her into becoming another sidechick? he is seeing her as his manvi from 10 years ago, not his son's wife and certainly not Maya jaisingh. I hate him but I love his twisted-ness.

Wowww...what a wonderful way to show foreplay.🤪 I don't know whether I should call it sick or some other word not discovered in the dictionary yet. Manvi will never succumb to being the woman she used to be after what Mrityunjay put her and her family through.

That scene with Diya and MJ was the best part of the episode. what did diya think? that she is important to him? today was definitely a day of enlightenment for her, now she will see what is her true place in the roy house.

I am telling you Pommy, Mrityunjay's sanak will turn his own people against him. If Maya manages to catch on to Mrityunjay's 'sanak' then she will be able to bring him down.

Ananya- She is allowed to be angry, anyone would be after being lead on then ditched but does she see her own fault in this mess? "sapna tod ne ka haq sirf tujhe nahin hain." Rudra broke her dreams of marrying him so ananya broke his dreams of building his own company. Only thing is, will maya let her go or find some loophole in the contract to keep her? Because through ananya, she can attack sudhir and not sure if she will let her go for hurting rudra.

I have a feeling Ananya has the capability to be Maya's biggest ally if CVs use her properly. See, once Ananya understands Maya and her reasons for doing what she does, then Ananya can not only be her support but give Rudra and their friendship a chance. See, Ananya knows that Maya plays games, but why, she doesn't. If Maya successfully exposes Sudhir in front of her, Ananya can not only be her biggest support but also share a healthy relation with Maya, unlike Diya and Antara.

Maya picking up that fork to hurt ananya was an impulsive reaction. Just like she picked up that knife to kill Rudra after Myra died. she is unhinged with no in between, but it again it highlighted that Rudra will be her "hadh" every time she goes on a rampage, rudra will bring her back. Again, the shiv-kali reference.

Woh MJ wala keeda hai usme, jo usko kaat jaata hai. But Rudra ussi keede ko aisa maslega na ek din, dekh lena.

Rudra's hurt was beautifully portrayed. It is easy to forget that he has a past too, he has insecurities which he has overcome to pursue maya. He put everything on the line for her so it hurts that she rejects him even though he is trying so hard. All the insecurities are surfacing again, and it is time maya comes out of her own grief and fear to see that. so far, this marriage is an one sided effort, Maya needs to meet him half way as well.

Like many are saying, Consummation is the most obvious next step in their relationship. it will really connect them and rudra will finally feel like Maya has finally accepted him.

Maya will come halfway through. She is very very scared to lose Rudra and that too to Mrityunjay's tricks. Once she gives in to Rudra's love, she will herself emerge to find the strength to face Mrityunjay.

Precap: MJ is backing Maya into a corner. let's see how long she takes to strike at him, especially if Rudra is injured in the balloon incident.

Seeing the people she loves in pain, brings out the worst in Maya, so let's see.

Originally posted by: NamuVyas

Ananya might end up joining the dots of Mayas past I do feel.. diya to antara is like always in support in front and she drugs her at the back.. Maya Ananya are loggerheads now but mayas past will open her eyes to reality.. her sister code in d show beginning.. such positivity will be bliss..

I agree my dear. I feel that CVs can successfully portray the contrast to Diya and Antara's relation through Maya and Ananya. Just like they do with Mrityunjay and Rudra. I am hoping Ananya's "sister-code" comes into play soon.

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Honestly, the last episode has left me confused by its strange dynamics of hadh and azadi between MayRa. One day Rudra says this relationship gives Maya azadi from all bandhan, then the next day he is upset because she crossed the hadh of long hairs and red dress,set by his love. Maya, on the wedding day, accepted that his love would be her hadh, and true, the kind of sinister she plans she needs some hadh to stabilize herself. Then for her, her love is in her rooh, freely flowing and transcendental, that should not be in the hadh of external beauty like hair or dress.

It also resonates with what she said earlier: Tumhe bandhne ka haq sirf tumhe hona chahiye, kisi aur ko nhi. Phir chaahe woh koi yaad ho, koi dard ho, koi pyaar ho, ya phir koi nafrat. Jis din ye baat samajh jaoge, her bandhan se aazadi paoge. It seems like Rudra wants to set Maya free from everyone else, except him, he wants her close to him. And Maya wants to be a free soul, she wants her love for Rudra to be free too, at times she does adhere to the hadhs of his love for his happiness.

The ideas azadi and hadh in love has been simuultaneously shown, it would be interesting to see that what is bound in it's hadh and what is set free, in MayRa's story.

MJ is digging is own grave, the way he is obsessed with Maya/Manvi. His actions returned Manvi to Rudra, Rudra is confused because he fell for Maya JS, this form is new for him. Much like how Mahadev also got confused that Parvati was Sati only. I am happy how Diya got shown her place, she getting back in form what she 'gifted' to young Manvi all those years ago.

Originally posted by: tournesol

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Honestly, the last episode has left me confused by its strange dynamics of hadh and azadi between MayRa. One day Rudra says this relationship gives Maya azadi from all bandhan, then the next day he is upset because she crossed the hadh of long hairs and red dress,set by his love. Maya, on the wedding day, accepted that his love would be her hadh, and true, the kind of sinister she plans she needs some hadh to stabilize herself. Then for her, her love is in her rooh, freely flowing and transcendental, that should not be in the hadh of external beauty like hair or dress.

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It also resonates with what she said earlier: Tumhe bandhne ka haq sirf tumhe hona chahiye, kisi aur ko nhi. Phir chaahe woh koi yaad ho, koi dard ho, koi pyaar ho, ya phir koi nafrat. Jis din ye baat samajh jaoge, her bandhan se aazadi paoge. It seems like Rudra wants to set Maya free from everyone else, except him, he wants her close to him. And Maya wants to be a free soul, she wants her love for Rudra to be free too, at times she does adhere to the hadhs of his love for his happiness.

The ideas azadi and hadh in love has been simuultaneously shown, it would be interesting to see that what is bound in it's hadh and what is set free, in MayRa's story.

MJ is digging is own grave, the way he is obsessed with Maya/Manvi. His actions returned Manvi to Rudra, Rudra is confused because he fell for Maya JS, this form is new for him. Much like how Mahadev also got confused that Parvati was Sati only. I am happy how Diya got shown her place, she getting back in form what she 'gifted' to young Manvi all those years ago.

Thanks, Tiara. And I enjoyed reading this post as well.

Honestly, the difference between hadh and beyhadh is the difference between Rudra and Maya. Rudra's 'hadh' of his love compels Maya to channel her fury and impulse in a more controlled manner. But Maya's love is beyhadh for Rudra, aur beyhadh hona acha nahi hota kabhi kabhi, hence that stupid move to attack Ananya.

For Rudra, his pyaar ki hadh wants Maya to be free of all her demons and insecurities within the hadh of his love, but that hadh is to keep Maya tied to himself because she only belongs to him. And this stems from his insecurities regarding the women in his life, who have always made him feel lonely. For Maya, her pyaar is beyhadh, her pyaar is above beauty and looks and physicalities because she feels Rudra's love in her soul. And I don't think Rudra still understands the meaning of Maya's kind of love, so yes he will take time, but he will.

See, Rudra has been used to Maya's ferocity, and he still needs to get used to the person she is, and the more Mrityunjay strips Maya of her Mayaness and push her to the Manvi he knew, that is the very same Manvi that Rudra has found in bits and pieces, and now that he gets to see more of her, he wants all that to himself, that is the level of his territorial nature for Maya. With Maya, she needs to give into Rudra's love to find the courage she needs to face Mrityunjay, just like the vow she made during her marriage. So, unless Maya gives into Rudra and both shun away from their insecurities, Maya cannot face Mrityunjay and Rudra cannot let go of his fear regarding Maya. Both Maya and Rudra frankly fear to lose each other.

Originally posted by: libran90

Thanks, Tiara. And I enjoyed reading this post as well.

Honestly, the difference between hadh and beyhadh is the difference between Rudra and Maya. Rudra's 'hadh' of his love compels Maya to channel her fury and impulse in a more controlled manner. But Maya's love is beyhadh for Rudra, aur beyhadh hona acha nahi hota kabhi kabhi, hence that stupid move to attack Ananya.

For Rudra, his pyaar ki hadh wants Maya to be free of all her demons and insecurities within the hadh of his love, but that hadh is to keep Maya tied to himself because she only belongs to him. And this stems from his insecurities regarding the women in his life, who have always made him feel lonely. For Maya, her pyaar is beyhadh, her pyaar is above beauty and looks and physicalities because she feels Rudra's love in her soul. And I don't think Rudra still understands the meaning of Maya's kind of love, so yes he will take time, but he will.

See, Rudra has been used to Maya's ferocity, and he still needs to get used to the person she is, and the more Mrityunjay strips Maya of her Mayaness and push her to the Manvi he knew, that is the very same Manvi that Rudra found in bits and pieces, and now that he gets to see more of her, he wants all that to himself, that is the level of his territorial nature for Maya. With Maya, she needs to give into Rudra's love to find the courage she needs to face Mrityunjay, just like the vow she made during her marriage. So, unless Maya gives into Rudra and both shun away from their insecurities, Maya cannot face Mrityunjay and Rudra cannot let go of his fear regarding Maya. Both Maya and Rudra frankly fear to lose each other.

Wow, well written 👏 Thanks for clearing out my confusion so beautifully. 😳

Originally posted by: tournesol

Wow, well written 👏 Thanks for clearing out my confusion so beautifully. 😳

You are welcome, love.😊

Maya's attempt to attack Ananya with a fork was stupidity of the highest order and I really hope makers refrain from mixing the two Maya's, the one from S1 and the current one.. Manvi loves Rudra, she is not unreasonably obsessed with him like Maya Mehrotra was with Arjun.. Her sanak, beyhadh nafrat etc is for MJ and his clan.. Otherwise she is as normal, sensitive, emotionally equipped as any other normal person which is why she was able to fall in love with a Rudra despite of him being her enemy's son.. she was able to empathize with Ananya and advice Rudra to give her time because Ananya is heartbroken and deeply hurt n humiliated.. Then why would she overreact to this extent if Ananya and Rudra's fallout makes him shed a few tears? Ananya did what she should have done long back.. she has every right to be upset with Rudra and Rudra feeling sad about their friendship ending on such a bitter note is also understandable.. What is completely unfathomable is Maya picking up a fork to stab Ananya in the middle of a party... What was she even thinking? Would hurting/killing Ananya make Rudra happy? If she loves Rudra like the audience have been made to believe, then I would expect Maya to let Ananya go for her own good and comfort Rudra, make him understand that by holding on to Ananya he will only hurt her because Ananya's perception of Maya is not going to change and also she can not go back to being friends with Rudra anymore..so they should respect her decision..and maybe with time she will be able to forgive Rudra.. THAT would have been the Manvi we know.. Manvi is Maya only for MJ and his chamchas..so i hope she limits her sanak to them and focusses her negative energy in standing up to MJ and stabbing the scissor or fork into MJ's eyes if he tries to grope her again..not attack innocents over trivial matters like this.. please dont make her Maya Mehrotra for god's sake

Originally posted by: MistyDawn

Maya's attempt to attack Ananya with a fork was stupidity of the highest order and I really hope makers refrain from mixing the two Maya's, the one from S1 and the current one.. Manvi loves Rudra, she is not unreasonably obsessed with him like Maya Mehrotra was with Arjun.. Her sanak, beyhadh nafrat etc is for MJ and his clan.. Otherwise she is as normal, sensitive, emotionally equipped as any other normal person which is why she was able to fall in love with a Rudra despite of him being her enemy's son.. she was able to empathize with Ananya and advice Rudra to give her time because Ananya is heartbroken and deeply hurt n humiliated.. Then why would she overreact to this extent if Ananya and Rudra's fallout makes him shed a few tears? Ananya did what she should have done long back.. she has every right to be upset with Rudra and Rudra feeling sad about their friendship ending on such a bitter note is also understandable.. What is completely unfathomable is Maya picking up a fork to stab Ananya in the middle of a party... What was she even thinking? Would hurting/killing Ananya make Rudra happy? If she loves Rudra like the audience have been made to believe, then I would expect Maya to let Ananya go for her own good and comfort Rudra, make him understand that by holding on to Ananya he will only hurt her because Ananya's perception of Maya is not going to change and also she can not go back to being friends with Rudra anymore..so they should respect her decision..and maybe with time she will be able to forgive Rudra.. THAT would have been the Manvi we know.. Manvi is Maya only for MJ and his chamchas..so i hope she limits her sanak to them and focusses her negative energy in standing up to MJ and stabbing the scissor or fork into MJ's eyes if he tries to grope her again..not attack innocents over trivial matters like this.. please dont make her Maya Mehrotra for god's sake

Maya Jaisingh and Maya Mehrotra are way different. Maya Mehrotra is psychotic and she would do something like this certainly, but she would plan it in such a way that it would look situational, and not intentional. But Maya Jaisingh is exactly the opposite. Maya Jaisingh would do such stupidities out of impulse only, not pre-plan it and do it.

I agree Manvi is a normal, sensitive, emotionally equipped woman. But she has been dead for the last 10 years. Frankly, this is where her unhingedness comes into play. Maya Jaisingh has been living and breathing inside her for the last 10 years. She has created a self-imposed mental sanatorium in her head which has reminded her of "You have to kill Mrityunjay, you have to take revenge." every damn day of her life. If you live your life like that, that too isolating yourself from people, how can you be healthy. After 10 long years, Manvi has got a chance, thanks to Rudra, to come out and breathe out in the open. She is still neither fully Manvi, nor she is fully Maya. Both these entities are overlapping unconsciously. Sometimes Maya overwhelms Manvi, sometimes Manvi overwhelms Maya. So what happened with Ananya, was Maya overwhelming Manvi, because that is something she has been doing for the last 10 years. Maya is struggling to balance both sides. Hoping for both to merge into each other and balance each other sooner.

Wonderful post 👏 U have said it all! What the hell is holding Maya back? When she took a dip in that muddy water, it was to cleanse Maanvi of all her fears and resurrect as Maya Jai Singh - a force to be reckoned with. Maanvi was an innocent girl who believed in love in its purest form - beautiful, compassionate and selfless. This girl was destroyed beyond repair. Her world came crashing down on her. Not only did she realise that love was not what she thought it to be all her life, she also saw how it can ruin your life. She was a pregnant woman who was beaten, broken and left to die. She probably would have as well if she wasn't rescued in the nick of time. She lost her brother and father (I am assuming this since that part of the past was never shown but if Mayra wanted vengeance it means Manas was killed). She has nothing left to loose now other than her mother. What was the point of rising from the ashes like a phoenix if you are not ready to take flight? She had ten years where she lived a life in isolation. She had ten years to resurface as Maya Jai Singh - a woman capable of turning MJ's world upside down just by working in the shadows. What happened now? Well if I try to point out the obvious, some people will jump on me saying I don't know human psychology 😆 and Maya has found love in Rudra after ten years and that's why she has put her revenge on back burner and is acting like a love sick puppy. Yes she found LOVE again. But what did she promise herself? That she won't let that love come in the way of her revenge but she will protect it fiercely. And use that love to give her strength. But she has completely forgotten about her revenge and romancing pati dev and switched on her Maanvi mode. Woman u need to realise Rudra fell for Maya Jai Singh - a woman who knew what she wants and is not afraid to claim it. Not Maanvi Singh - who allowed men like MJ to manipulate and fool her. So bring that sherni back. And by sherni I don't mean attacking helpless people like Ananya. I really loved the way Ananya took a stand for herself. Rudra had broken her heart and he needs to realise he can't have it his way all the time. When she told him that all ties between them shall break including their friendship if he leaves her at the altar, he told her he will break if he doesn't go. So Ananya let him go and now he should respect her space. If she decides to be his friend again that should be her choice solely. What the hell is wrong with Maya? What has Ananya done to her? In fact she is making things easy for her by walking out of Rudra's life. Had it been Maya Mehrotra she would have been rejoicing with joy and would have let Saanjh walk out happily as that spared her from doing anything.

Also who is Rajeev to her? Just a guy who was robbed by MJ (am sure MJ did not try to brutally kill him like he did Maya). He doesn't have to risk his neck to settle scores with MJ. But he is doing that to support her. If he looses his life, then it will be entirely Maya's fault. MJ would definitely not kill him otherwise. People like Rajeev don't bother MJ to an extent that he needs to resort to extreme measures. But if he does, he will do it because Rajeev is supporting Maya. At least fight for the ones for are fighting for you. Be prepared to die for someone who is prepared to do the same for you. I know Rudra will die for Maya because he loves her. But Rajeev will die for her because he wants Maanvi to get justice. So whom she should fight for now?

I am glad Maya finally reacted and hopefully we will get to see Diya paying back. I was hoping she would inaugurate her mission with Jogi. Lekin Jogi nahi toh Diya hi sahi.

P. S - Am I the only one missing Sultan? 🤔 I wanted to see the bond between Maya and Sultan so badly after she officially made an entrance to the Roy mansion. But Sultan is nowhere to be seen. I thought he would come running to greet her. Its been more than two days not but no sign of him 🤔 Jenny shares a lovely bond with dogs and I was hoping to see Maya Sultan bonding 😭