Ep 44: Main patthar hu jo raste se hata sakti ho ya jo rasta badal de - Page 2

Originally posted by: MistyDawn

Based on what I read about the flashback scene, I feel it's open to lot of interpretations.. River is dynamic unlike the ocean which is stagnant, lifeless almost placid.. if we look at the symbolism in terms of how the characterization is, river could be Rudra and Maya could be the ocean.. Rudra is dynamic, he is vibrant and symbolizes life like the river does..Maya is like the ocean, placid and cold on the outside and so much hidden in the depth..Rudra loves the ocean eventhough he doesn't know how to swim..he has no idea what destruction lies underneath the placid exterior..and Maya?? she appreciates the journey of the river, it's x-factor..In her story, the journey of the river and its end destination is fixed.. river has to merge into the ocean and lose its identity.. however, the twist she's not ready for is the stone that could change the course of the river or break in the process.. this stone analogy gives a different interpretation to the river and ocean story.. Ocean being Maya's ultimate destination, moksha/salvation, penance, peace in death, it could be anything but she is not looking for a happily ever after.. The journey of her revenge represented by the river here is going to end after the river destroys everything on its way before it merges into the ocean.. the unexpected change of course could come in the form of the the rock, the hurdle in her way i.e Rudra who is either going to change her course of journey or break into pieces in the process.. Whatever the case maybe, Rudra is going to make Maya see the error of her ways ..only he can..and once she does, she will not be able to live with the burden of guilt..

I feel after maya's death, rudra is going to publish her book..her story

Yes, the sea and river symbolism is open to many interpretations, one of it you just gave.

Honestly, in S1 Maya was always seeking a happy ending to her story, which she found in Arjun, and in trying to keep that, she turned darker and darker.

But in S2, she has started off as a dark character with hate and vengeance which ends with her end. She is not seeking a happy ending. But isn't that what she deserves? Marrying Rudra for her is the 1st step to her revenge, but actually it is her first step towards healing, towards the light, towards lost love, lost humanity, lost innocence. 10 years ago Mrityunjay pushed Maya down a pit of darkness. But now 10 years later, Rudra has to walk her back towards the light, stripping her of the darkness. I mean 7 people for their selfish reasons ruined a woman, and nothing has affected their lives, they have just moved on. Mrityunjay Roy has moved on. And that isn't fair. They deserve to die, not Maya.

I mean show can be dark. But you cannot show darkness moving towards more darkness. Then what do we have in life? Given that the show is immensely in the dark, from immense darkness only light can come, not more darkness - light which led to the creation. But she chose to kill in the name of dharma for Roy clan's karma, which has put a huge dent on Maya's way to light.

And hence I am really hoping Rishi to return from the dead- because his death had so many loopholes, that I am having a hard time believing his death. It's not delusion frankly. And as Maya comes out of her shadows and moves towards the light, she will be exposed to the toxicity inside that house, the murkiness that is Roy clan, and that is what will show her that she is not the only victim, everyone is. When Gauri became Kali, she used ferocity to vanquish the darkness, to kill negativity, not lose herself in the darkness. But after consuming Raktabeej's blood, some of his negativity came into her as she was the force of raw nature and hence she went berserk, then Shiv had to remind her of who she truly is, and then she returned to her sublime Gauri form, which is exactly what should happen with Maya.

I don't want cliffhanger ending, neither I am looking forward to Maya's death which is so spoken of. Something else, something different and something to look forward to. Honestly, CVs are getting very predictable these days. They should actually surprise us.

Originally posted by: pomegranate

good episode.

Agreed. At least, Shivin was very good in his emotional reaction. It was like big baggage was released from Rudra's back.

Hate and darkness has turned Maya into a another version of MJ, the man she hates. The way she emotionally and mentally abuses people who genuinely loves her is hard to watch. She will get a reality check one day and then? how will she face herself?

Being Mrityunjay to beat Mrityunjay should never be her goal. Adapting to enemy moves is okay, but at least keep some sense of differentiation between yourself and him. Mrityunjay Roy is a parasite who snuffs the light and liberty out of people. You are not him and hope you wake up to that soon enough. With Rudra around, I don't think she will be able to play dirty all the time. Because she always has to change her game around him.

I don't know...sometimes she seems beyond salvation.

You never know. The story is changing in another direction. Maybe salvation is possible.

The Mayra flashback was beautiful with even better dialogues. It instilled a sense of peace and calmness in an otherwise chaotic week. I hope we get more mature conversations after marriage, where Mayra truly connect.

I agree Rudra needs to talk more and more with Maya, to understand her. If he understands that sanak of hers then he will be able to help her. In fact, he needs to talk more with Nandini, to understand. One day, maybe one day Maya will be able to speak of her pain, of her past with Rudra, without letting out the name of that man, and tell him the truth.

The dialogues in the flasback can be interpreted in many ways but one thing for sure, Rudra will be the rock that alters maya's path and who supports and stands beside her no matter what. They will always be interwoven together.

Maya anyway slips when he is around they will be together 24/7 from now on. Not only will she see the real rudra but the dysfunctional dynamic of the roys, and how MJ sucks the life out of everyone. The more Maya gets to see rudra, the more she will drown in him. He is not MJ ka beta.

Exactly, the more she is involved in the Roy family dynamics, the more she will see what Mrityunjay does to his family. What she sees from outside will be very different as to what happens inside.

Shivin was the star of the episode today. When Nandini told him that maya loves him, it was like he could not believe what he was hearing and that he was trying to process this information. Then the quiet restlessness took over, he was almost shivering. His heartbreak, Love and regret was so beautifully portrayed. But he was very restrained, nothing over the top or melodramatic. His voice modulation while reading maya's note, and the absolute devastation. phenomenal acting. Before he runs to maya, I hope he is at least honest to ananya- that he was running away from his love for maya the entire time. He owes her that much.

It's like Rudra ke andar ke saare gaath khul gaye. The storm inside him has calmed because his feelings are returned and not one-sided, which is actually the truth. And now he is taking that very storm within to unleash it on Maya once he finds her, for pushing him away and for going away from him.

Ananya. The sight of her dreams shattering has made her bitchy, mean, shallow and now a badtameez. Lash out all you want ananya, but you cannot keep a man who does not want to be kept.

Exactly, now Mrityunjay will blackmail her in the name of Rishi. Arre Rishi ka bhav zinda rehte huye itna nahin tha, jitna marne ke baad huya hai. Arre Rishi, please jahaan kahin bhi hai, waapis aa ja, tera baap tera naam lekar kitne kaand kar raha hai.

Precap- Rudra's desperation and the way he grabbed Maya even she was taken aback. this is only the beginning because you have hardly seen the depths of Rudra's love for you. He is your partner and companion, and he understands you in ways that no one else ever did.

It's like Maya ki chori pakdi gayi ho😆. The huntress will now become a prey to Rudra, who is the hunter now. Saare khooni iraado par pyaar ka baad phir gaya😆

Originally posted by: libran90

Yes, the sea and river symbolism is open to many interpretations, one of it you just gave.

Honestly, in S1 Maya was always seeking a happy ending to her story, which she found in Arjun, and in trying to keep that, she turned darker and darker.

But in S2, she has started off as a dark character with hate and vengeance which ends with her end. She is not seeking a happy ending. But isn't that what she deserves? Marrying Rudra for her is the 1st step to her revenge, but actually it is her first step towards healing, towards the light, towards lost love, lost humanity, lost innocence. 10 years ago Mrityunjay pushed Maya down a pit of darkness. But now 10 years later, Rudra has to walk her back towards the light, stripping her of the darkness. I mean 7 people for their selfish reasons ruined a woman, and nothing has affected their lives, they have just moved on. Mrityunjay Roy has moved on. And that isn't fair. They deserve to die, not Maya.

I mean show can be dark. But you cannot show darkness moving towards more darkness. Then what do we have in life? Given that the show is immensely in the dark, from immense darkness only light can come, not more darkness - light which led to the creation. But she chose to kill in the name of dharma for Roy clan's karma, which has put a huge dent on Maya's way to light.

And hence I am really hoping Rishi to return from the dead- because his death had so many loopholes, that I am having a hard time believing his death. It's not delusion frankly. And as Maya comes out of her shadows and moves towards the light, she will be exposed to the toxicity inside that house, the murkiness that is Roy clan, and that is what will show her that she is not the only victim, everyone is. When Gauri became Kali, she used ferocity to vanquish the darkness, to kill negativity, not lose herself in the darkness. But after consuming Raktabeej's blood, some of his negativity came into her as she was the force of raw nature and hence she went berserk, then Shiv had to remind her of who she truly is, and then she returned to her sublime Gauri form, which is exactly what should happen with Maya.

I don't want cliffhanger ending, neither I am looking forward to Maya's death which is so spoken of. Something else, something different and something to look forward to. Honestly, CVs are getting very predictable these days. They should actually surprise us.

You are right.. Beyhadh season 1 was a disappointment barring Jennifer's acting.. and I am saying disappointing not because Maya died or didn't get what she wanted or deserved in life considering she had a traumatic childhood that shaped her personality much like Maya's who is the way she is because of what she faced 10 years back.. I was disappointed because as a story it felt unfinished, besides a very below average performance from the rest of the cast..Stories, light or dark, should give the right take home message even if it ends in a tragedy... What was the message from S1? Did Maya realize she was wrong before she died? Her mother was relieved and I am not even sure what Arjun and Saanjh felt.. In this season, Maya has been shown to have a conscience somewhere.. I want that conscience to come back for good at the end of the show or sooner the better and not make guest appearances lol.. In the end she should realize that her Krishna has not kept her alive to kill people but to give herself a chance to seek love and happiness in this lifetime..Rudra is god sent.. God has kept her alive so that she meets him and he ends the darkness that is in and around her..no religion preaches violence.. No religion, no God advocates killing people.. If she indeed was in relationship with MJ knowing he was married then she should open her eyes to her own sins..karma leaves no one. Killing Rishi ,manipulating people who love her for revenge, makes her no better than MJ..If anything it makes her worse.. As far as MJ and others involved moving on goes..Karma is going to find them and they will pay for their sins in this lifetime only even if they have escaped the court of law.. MJ's own son hated him for 10 years.. his mother cursed him day in an day out.. his marriage is a sham..now he lost his beloved son..Life has its own ways of making you pay.. and then there is law of the land that is made so the guilty can be punished.. Imagine if the victims of rape, acid attack, molestation, dowry, flesh trade, human trafficking , all start taking the law in their hands and go on a killing spree?.. My point is, the message should be right.. The wrong doers, be it MJ and his accomplices, they should be punished.. and Maya who transformed from a victim to a wrong doer herself should also realize her mistake and let law take her course.. if indeed Rishi is dead, then she should be punished for aiding and abetting suicide, serve her term in jail and come out reformed, with a clean slate, no baggage.. Hopefully Rudra will be able to forgive her and accept her back in their lives.. That would be the most logical and satisfying end to this story in my opinion.. if Rishi is alive, then of-course there are many possibilities..

Originally posted by: MistyDawn

You are right.. Beyhadh season 1 was a disappointment barring Jennifer's acting.. and I am saying disappointing not because Maya died or didn't get what she wanted or deserved in life considering she had a traumatic childhood that shaped her personality much like Maya's who is the way she is because of what she faced 10 years back.. I was disappointed because as a story it felt unfinished, besides a very below average performance from the rest of the cast..Stories, light or dark, should give the right take home message even if it ends in a tragedy... What was the message from S1? Did Maya realize she was wrong before she died? Her mother was relieved and I am not even sure what Arjun and Saanjh felt.. In this season, Maya has been shown to have a conscience somewhere.. I want that conscience to come back for good at the end of the show or sooner the better and not make guest appearances lol.. In the end she should realize that her Krishna has not kept her alive to kill people but to give herself a chance to seek love and happiness in this lifetime..Rudra is god sent.. God has kept her alive so that she meets him and he ends the darkness that is in and around her..no religion preaches violence.. No religion, no God advocates killing people.. If she indeed was in relationship with MJ knowing he was married then she should open her eyes to her own sins..karma leaves no one. Killing Rishi ,manipulating people who love her for revenge, makes her no better than MJ..If anything it makes her worse.. As far as MJ and others involved moving on goes..Karma is going to find them and they will pay for their sins in this lifetime only even if they have escaped the court of law.. MJ's own son hated him for 10 years.. his mother cursed him day in an day out.. his marriage is a sham..now he lost his beloved son..Life has its own ways of making you pay.. and then there is law of the land that is made so the guilty can be punished.. Imagine if the victims of rape, acid attack, molestation, dowry, flesh trade, human trafficking , all start taking the law in their hands and go on a killing spree?.. My point is, the message should be right.. The wrong doers, be it MJ and his accomplices, they should be punished.. and Maya who transformed from a victim to a wrong doer herself should also realize her mistake and let law take her course.. if indeed Rishi is dead, then she should be punished for aiding and abetting suicide, serve her term in jail and come out reformed, with a clean slate, no baggage.. Hopefully Rudra will be able to forgive her and accept her back in their lives.. That would be the most logical and satisfying end to this story in my opinion.. if Rishi is alive, then of-course there are many possibilities..

@red - Yes, I agree. It looked like Jennifer was overcompensating for the lackluster performance of Kushal especially, more than anyone else. As a character, Maya's darkness in S1 was so big because on the opposite end there were very ordinary people who were clueless about what to do in the story. And that is why after a point, Maya's darkness was unbearable because I cannot see only one person all dark and rest doing nothing. Arjun's love for Maya or Saanjh was very unconvincing. In fact, Aneri was better as Saanjh in terms of friendship or love. In S2, Rudra is a strong character with a sense of individuality, he does not have a sickening co-dependent relationship with Ananya, Ananya is a childish woman who has been fed childish fantasies like weed for someone who has time and again made it clear, he doesn't love her. And to balance out the darkness of Maya we have Mrityunjay on the opposite end. So S2 is better in terms of quality of the cast. Only the thriller is very slack and predictable at times, which needs to change.

@blue - yes, it should have some sort of a message, as in if it is promoted as Mahabharat if bad should meet its end, the good needs to be rewarded. Pandavs were equally wrong in the entire Draupadi fiasco, but they were given the purpose to re-establish a societal order that respected women. So Maya also needs to get that kind of chance. Once she understands it that what she did in the path to justice, she needs to be punished and given the chance to reform. Otherwise, why will S2 be different from S1? Also, this Maya has been shown with a moral compass and empathetic heart - then why not just show this Maya's end a bit better than last. I really leave it on CVs, but they should consider Maya's reform and Rishi's return, giving the thriller twists which makes a thriller watchable, otherwise, if we predict everything, then no fun with a thriller. The only unpredictable thing in the show is Maya.

Well written... you are totally right, the only genuine character yesterday was Nandhini. Her emotions, her worries as a mother was very evident. She is all bent on saving her sanki daughter. Her breakdown was heart wrenching but the look on Rudra's eyes when Nandhini broke the news about Maya leaving and the reason...Maya loves Rudra.. goodness, it was like Rudra got to see the sun after years of isolation.

Rajeev...my man. His concern for Maya when Maya did her breakdown acting and his obvious relief knowing it was Maya's Maya was awesome. Rajeev walking into the lion's den, with a mustache too. I loved the way he took care of Maya's mother. However, I wonder what is Rajeev's connection to Maya and the Roy khaandan..

Originally posted by: JazzyM

Well written... you are totally right, the only genuine character yesterday was Nandhini. Her emotions, her worries as a mother was very evident. She is all bent on saving her sanki daughter. Her breakdown was heart wrenching but the look on Rudra's eyes when Nandhini broke the news about Maya leaving and the reason...Maya loves Rudra.. goodness, it was like Rudra got to see the sun after years of isolation.

Thanks J.😊 Nandini is the only normal person whose only sanak is her daughter to cure her of her sanak. Ab Rudra bhaiya kya karenge dekhte hai. Woh to pahuch gaye Hrishikesh. Rudra's breakdown was like calmness after a storm. The fact hit him hard that Maya loves him, but also left him. And he was at peace that aag dono taraf barabar lagi hai. Ab janaab pyaar ki aag leke Hrishikesh me jake Maya behen ko baha le jayenge.

Rajeev...my man. His concern for Maya when Maya did her breakdown acting and his obvious relief knowing it was Maya's Maya was awesome. Rajeev walking into the lion's den, with a mustache too. I loved the way he took care of Maya's mother. However, I wonder what is Rajeev's connection to Maya and the Roy khaandan..

Exactly, aur jitna Rajeev dikhata hai, usse kahi jyaada involvement hai. His absence during the Rishi fiasco is very surprising. Rings many bells.

Originally posted by: libran90

Exactly.. where was Rajeev when Rishi took his life... In fact, if Maya is going to get any justice, Rishi needs to awaken from his death. If not, for all of Rudra's pagalpan.. Maya's involvement in Rishi's death would severe all ties...

Any news from the actor who acts as Rishi.. he was taken out too soon.

Anyways, where is dadi.. she was another sane person in this insane Maya world serial.

Originally posted by: JazzyM

Exactly.. where was Rajeev when Rishi took his life... In fact, if Maya is going to get any justice, Rishi needs to awaken from his death. If not, for all of Rudra's pagalpan.. Maya's involvement in Rishi's death would severe all ties...

Any news from the actor who acts as Rishi.. he was taken out too soon.

Anyways, where is dadi.. she was another sane person in this insane Maya world serial.

Rajat bid adieu to the beyhadh team.I don't think Rishi would come back..His character got closure

Originally posted by: pranurosid

Rajat bid adieu to the beyhadh team.I don't think Rishi would come back..His character got closure

So, Rishi's character is out... Mmm... desi serial, sometimes the characters come back with different faces.. Sorry for sounding so cynical.

Originally posted by: JazzyM

So, Rishi's character is out... Mmm... desi serial, sometimes the characters come back with different faces.. Sorry for sounding so cynical.

But this is Beyhadh😆..He won't come back