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Posted: 5 years ago
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I would probably not sound good, especially after reading this forum today, but I am not sure I agree with anyone saying Suman is right or Rohit is wrong..


Hear me out.. Starting at the beginning: The exhibition was Tanya wanting to expose Rohan, she later lost her strength when she got proof as it broke her, but she kept the exhibition, not anyone else. Then Ajeeth telling Suman everything isnt something anyone could have predicted, especially since nobody but Sona knows that Ajeeth even knows anything, just like only Rohit knew about Pari telling about Pooja till Pari herself confessed.. Yes, Veena was wrong in saying girls like Pari go behind rich guys, but if you see the earlier episodes, that is exactly what Pari did, though even Rohan did the exact same thing, a pretty girl and he started chasing her, but it's not like either of them had true love on their minds when they chased the other.. I think they are both cheap, and honestly, both mothers have gone wrong in their upbringing there.. Sona used to warn her so many times and I remember her mother telling her that Pari has bigger dreams and better paths than her being a small time tv actress, in fact she encouraged Pari to talk to the "mystery rich guy" as he can get her movies.


Now moving to Rohit and Sona... How was Rohit wrong in questioning Sona if anyone listened to her in that house? That is exactly the truth. He has seen her mother insult her and she herself had confessed to Rohit that her mother always pushes her buttons and she is never able to stand up for herself.. She only stood up for Rohit that first time and then also her mother had taunted her enough that Pulki had to make her eat food.. Sona has been trying to warn her mother for so long about Pari, and yet her mother keeps pushing Pari to do whatever she wants to get into films.. Not only is that telling Pari she can do whatever, but she also insults Sona's work herself so many times, she only loves the money she gets with that, to the extent of lying to Sona and taking money for hospital appearances in the first place also...


As for Sona slapping Pari, are we seriously calling her a doormat for that? she just found out that her sister not only leake a sensitive matter to press for her revenge, but also has been sleeping with her sister's married brother in law along side.. literally a day after her mother, who she told she'll explain why she took the money, came to her house and insulted her mil and husband for taking dowry from her, again whatever Sona said, didnt matter in that house..


I can sort of understand Rohit's question to Sona that is about to come, according to him she is the only one who knew apart from the people who kept that secret and his logical brain will take that leap before his heart catches him, the same happened in the malfunction case, the logic drawn was more blatantly clear to him than the fact that he had understood her a bit by then.. It isnt him being a chauvinist or mummy's boy, it's how he has always been, and his jump is something any human will take... Rohit was nice enough to call his mil and ask her to come home, while apologizing for a mistake he didnt make, in fact his mil only made, despite that his mother didnt want her there, so how was that a mommy's boy?


I feel this show is just showing too many twists and turns and resolving them too quickly than what the audience is used to, and that's what's making us all jump to conclusions.. I havent found any situation that has made me personally feel like my mother wont have done it had she been in Sona's place, and I know my mother is no Parvati.. I agree a few things are regressive, but if we remember the conversation around sarees, Sona was clear that she wants that TV serial family where everyone loves her, so her giving up her job, makes sense in her brain, in her character.. She yearned for this life where she has a family, earlier she only had Pulki..


Sorry if someone felt bad.. I just dont think one person needs to be wrong for another to be right.. There can be two people fighting each other and yet both be right or both be wrong..

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: cutepigs

I would probably not sound good, especially after reading this forum today, but I am not sure I agree with anyone saying Suman is right or Rohit is wrong..


Hear me out.. Starting at the beginning: The exhibition was Tanya wanting to expose Rohan, she later lost her strength when she got proof as it broke her, but she kept the exhibition, not anyone else. Then Ajeeth telling Suman everything isnt something anyone could have predicted, especially since nobody but Sona knows that Ajeeth even knows anything, just like only Rohit knew about Pari telling about Pooja till Pari herself confessed.. Yes, Veena was wrong in saying girls like Pari go behind rich guys, but if you see the earlier episodes, that is exactly what Pari did, though even Rohan did the exact same thing, a pretty girl and he started chasing her, but it's not like either of them had true love on their minds when they chased the other.. I think they are both cheap, and honestly, both mothers have gone wrong in their upbringing there.. Sona used to warn her so many times and I remember her mother telling her that Pari has bigger dreams and better paths than her being a small time tv actress, in fact she encouraged Pari to talk to the "mystery rich guy" as he can get her movies.


Now moving to Rohit and Sona... How was Rohit wrong in questioning Sona if anyone listened to her in that house? That is exactly the truth. He has seen her mother insult her and she herself had confessed to Rohit that her mother always pushes her buttons and she is never able to stand up for herself.. She only stood up for Rohit that first time and then also her mother had taunted her enough that Pulki had to make her eat food.. Sona has been trying to warn her mother for so long about Pari, and yet her mother keeps pushing Pari to do whatever she wants to get into films.. Not only is that telling Pari she can do whatever, but she also insults Sona's work herself so many times, she only loves the money she gets with that, to the extent of lying to Sona and taking money for hospital appearances in the first place also...


As for Sona slapping Pari, are we seriously calling her a doormat for that? she just found out that her sister not only leake a sensitive matter to press for her revenge, but also has been sleeping with her sister's married brother in law along side.. literally a day after her mother, who she told she'll explain why she took the money, came to her house and insulted her mil and husband for taking dowry from her, again whatever Sona said, didnt matter in that house..


I can sort of understand Rohit's question to Sona that is about to come, according to him she is the only one who knew apart from the people who kept that secret and his logical brain will take that leap before his heart catches him, the same happened in the malfunction case, the logic drawn was more blatantly clear to him than the fact that he had understood her a bit by then.. It isnt him being a chauvinist or mummy's boy, it's how he has always been, and his jump is something any human will take... Rohit was nice enough to call his mil and ask her to come home, while apologizing for a mistake he didnt make, in fact his mil only made, despite that his mother didnt want her there, so how was that a mommy's boy?


I feel this show is just showing too many twists and turns and resolving them too quickly than what the audience is used to, and that's what's making us all jump to conclusions.. I havent found any situation that has made me personally feel like my mother wont have done it had she been in Sona's place, and I know my mother is no Parvati.. I agree a few things are regressive, but if we remember the conversation around sarees, Sona was clear that she wants that TV serial family where everyone loves her, so her giving up her job, makes sense in her brain, in her character.. She yearned for this life where she has a family, earlier she only had Pulki..


Sorry if someone felt bad.. I just dont think one person needs to be wrong for another to be right.. There can be two people fighting each other and yet both be right or both be wrong..

Both suman and Veena are wrong in upbringing Rohan and pari

Yes pari is a gold digger ..no need of suman getting hyper over that

Yes cheating runs in sippy blood .suman is right in revealing it before all in vengeance that holier than thou naren so snobbish. He needs to come down before public

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Posted: 5 years ago
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I agree that Veena had to know the truth and Naren needed to be shamed in front of his family, but Suman has gone through the humiliations a husband is capable of putting his wife through, she herself broke down and had a heart attack when something like that repeated itself in her life, very publically, so her putting another woman in that position for the world to see and shame her, which again she knows first hand is what happens, I feel that is where the lack of empathy came through for me... I know, when something breaks us, we either turn bitter and hate everyone getting to live peacefully, not having to go through the pain, or we turn empathetic towards others to an extent of a fault, Suman and Sona respectively here... But ya, for me, at the end of the day, her daughter had been responsible for publically humiliating the family before, she could have had her vengeance in private also..


What difference remains between Pari leaking Pooja's news for revenge and Suman humiliating Veena in front of everyone for something that wasnt Veena's fault...

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: cutepigs

I would probably not sound good, especially after reading this forum today, but I am not sure I agree with anyone saying Suman is right or Rohit is wrong..


Hear me out.. Starting at the beginning: The exhibition was Tanya wanting to expose Rohan, she later lost her strength when she got proof as it broke her, but she kept the exhibition, not anyone else. Then Ajeeth telling Suman everything isnt something anyone could have predicted, especially since nobody but Sona knows that Ajeeth even knows anything, just like only Rohit knew about Pari telling about Pooja till Pari herself confessed.. Yes, Veena was wrong in saying girls like Pari go behind rich guys, but if you see the earlier episodes, that is exactly what Pari did, though even Rohan did the exact same thing, a pretty girl and he started chasing her, but it's not like either of them had true love on their minds when they chased the other.. I think they are both cheap, and honestly, both mothers have gone wrong in their upbringing there.. Sona used to warn her so many times and I remember her mother telling her that Pari has bigger dreams and better paths than her being a small time tv actress, in fact she encouraged Pari to talk to the "mystery rich guy" as he can get her movies.


Now moving to Rohit and Sona... How was Rohit wrong in questioning Sona if anyone listened to her in that house? That is exactly the truth. He has seen her mother insult her and she herself had confessed to Rohit that her mother always pushes her buttons and she is never able to stand up for herself.. She only stood up for Rohit that first time and then also her mother had taunted her enough that Pulki had to make her eat food.. Sona has been trying to warn her mother for so long about Pari, and yet her mother keeps pushing Pari to do whatever she wants to get into films.. Not only is that telling Pari she can do whatever, but she also insults Sona's work herself so many times, she only loves the money she gets with that, to the extent of lying to Sona and taking money for hospital appearances in the first place also...


As for Sona slapping Pari, are we seriously calling her a doormat for that? she just found out that her sister not only leake a sensitive matter to press for her revenge, but also has been sleeping with her sister's married brother in law along side.. literally a day after her mother, who she told she'll explain why she took the money, came to her house and insulted her mil and husband for taking dowry from her, again whatever Sona said, didnt matter in that house..


I can sort of understand Rohit's question to Sona that is about to come, according to him she is the only one who knew apart from the people who kept that secret and his logical brain will take that leap before his heart catches him, the same happened in the malfunction case, the logic drawn was more blatantly clear to him than the fact that he had understood her a bit by then.. It isnt him being a chauvinist or mummy's boy, it's how he has always been, and his jump is something any human will take... Rohit was nice enough to call his mil and ask her to come home, while apologizing for a mistake he didnt make, in fact his mil only made, despite that his mother didnt want her there, so how was that a mommy's boy?


I feel this show is just showing too many twists and turns and resolving them too quickly than what the audience is used to, and that's what's making us all jump to conclusions.. I havent found any situation that has made me personally feel like my mother wont have done it had she been in Sona's place, and I know my mother is no Parvati.. I agree a few things are regressive, but if we remember the conversation around sarees, Sona was clear that she wants that TV serial family where everyone loves her, so her giving up her job, makes sense in her brain, in her character.. She yearned for this life where she has a family, earlier she only had Pulki..


Sorry if someone felt bad.. I just dont think one person needs to be wrong for another to be right.. There can be two people fighting each other and yet both be right or both be wrong..

Beautiful post. Agree with all the points you brought up. Like you said there is no Rohit vs Sona because both of them love each other their own way. They will come together. It's amazing to see how the makers making no one is right now wrong completely..

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Posted: 5 years ago
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I am not going to talk much about either Veena or Suman. Both these women were wrong. Veena with her crass and mysogynistic remarks over a girl while even her son was at wrong and Suman for bringing out this entire personal matter infront of strangers. They both lacked in their upbringing and are too much of a hypocrite to even realise that.

I am not supporting Pari and I think she is downright disgusting and selfish but I don't think money is the reason why she was with Rohan. I think she was attracted to him and didn't care for anything else. Atmost she might have been interested in the roles he promised her. Not saying she is right but her reasons were different.

Coming to Sona and Rohit. Yes Sonakshi has been wrong with many things in the recent past. She was wrong in hiding the entire blackmailing episode from Rohit, she was wrong in hiding about Ajit. She was wrong. But her being wrong doesn't make Rohit right. I am not even saying Rohit is wrong in questioning or doubting her about Naren's truth. He has all the reasons to think that Sona informed Suman about it. No matter how much he trusts Sona, at such time anyone will lose control. And Rohit is a kind of character who cannot handle emotions and let his anger get better of him. I have mentioned this in one of my comments on this forum earlier today. I am not holding onto Rohit's anger about Naren and Pooja's issue but his reaction about Pari and Rohan was anything but right. He didn't have to raise those questions at Sona, he didn't have to continue saying tumhari family as if she is the one responsible for all that's going wrong, he didn't have to react the way he did when Sona mentioned that Rohan was at fault as well. And he certainly had no right to say pyaar mein andha hoke aisi family se rishta jod Lia. Sona was clear that both Rohan and Pari are at fault...even Tanya didn't blame Sona even once in all this. Tanya, Veena, Deepa...all of them could have easily blamed Sona but they didn't. This is my issue with Rohit. Not anything about his reaction on Naren and Pooja's truth but on Pari and Rohan's issue. And as for saying no one values what Sonakshi said...yes what he said was right but imagine you confide into someone about something, something that the other person knows is a bitter truth which has the ability to hurt you and during a fight the person throws the same thing at you. How would you feel? That's what Rohit did when he told Sonakshi no one values what she says.

I know Rohit loves Sonakshi and will support her even in future like he has done in past. But all the right things he did or will do cannot make this wrong action of his right in any way.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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I agree that the tumhari family part was wrong, but then again just a day before her mother had created a very ugly scene and called them out for asking for dowry and Suman wasnt just questioning, she had been insulting them and talking extremely badly.. He was angry even at night at Sona and told her what she did, though he did let it go and called her up to apologize, even though he didnt do anything wrong, dowry is a crime and he has shown to love the law...


I feel in that moment, he felt the entire family is behind his family, first Pari, then her mother and then again Pari... He didnt blame Sona, but him blaming the rest of them isnt really wrong from where I am seeing it, and I think Sona does understand that somewhere which is why she went with him to her house..


And unlike Veena, Rohit did pull Rohan aside but couldn't do much in front of everyone when Rohan told him to back off..

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: cutepigs

I agree that the tumhari family part was wrong, but then again just a day before her mother had created a very ugly scene and called them out for asking for dowry and Suman wasnt just questioning, she had been insulting them and talking extremely badly.. He was angry even at night at Sona and told her what she did, though he did let it go and called her up to apologize, even though he didnt do anything wrong, dowry is a crime and he has shown to love the law...


I feel in that moment, he felt the entire family is behind his family, first Pari, then her mother and then again Pari... He didnt blame Sona, but him blaming the rest of them isnt really wrong from where I am seeing it, and I think Sona does understand that somewhere which is why she went with him to her house..


And unlike Veena, Rohit did pull Rohan aside but couldn't do much in front of everyone when Rohan told him to back off..

I know what you are saying and I agree with you. I understand Rohit's pov and I remember how he has always stood by her like a rock. I also agree that he isn't aware of a lot of things because Sona didn't share it with him which is going to lead to an ultimate disaster. And yes he did take Rohan aside but somehow i felt that he was blaming Pari more than Rohan. Maybe the makers portrayed it wrong. But somehow I am not able to forgive Rohit for certain actions. He is right in alot of cases and I can see where he is coming from but certain things are wrong and my anger is just for those things. Other than that I still love Rohit Sippy.Maybe I am also pyaar mein andhi 🤔

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Hahahahaha.. I think them I am toh completely pyaar mein andhi 🤣...


But ya, bahut kareeb se seekha hai, aur bahut mehnat karke seekha hai, ki kisi ke sahi hone ka matlab yeh nai ki koi aur galat ho, even if exact opposite views ho..

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: cutepigs

Hahahahaha.. I think them I am toh completely pyaar mein andhi 🤣...


But ya, bahut kareeb se seekha hai, aur bahut mehnat karke seekha hai, ki kisi ke sahi hone ka matlab yeh nai ki koi aur galat ho, even if exact opposite views ho..

I completely agree. People just have a different perspective and it's not necessary that for one person to be right the other person has to be wrong. And vice versa. Just because one person is wrong doesn't make the other person right. I think in the showa everyone is taking decisions in anger and everyone is making mistake and everyone is wrong here in some way or the other. In a way I like it that the makers are giving their characters the freedom of making mistakes but the harsh truth of life is that you can't run away from your mistakes. Even if you are right 99 out of 100 times, that one mistake gets to you. You are not forgiven for that mistake. The people, society or universe doesn't let that mistake slip away and you have to bear the brunt of it. Like how Sonakshi is paying for her mistakes right now and how I think Rohit is going to pay for his mistakes.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: cutepigs

I agree that Veena had to know the truth and Naren needed to be shamed in front of his family, but Suman has gone through the humiliations a husband is capable of putting his wife through, she herself broke down and had a heart attack when something like that repeated itself in her life, very publically, so her putting another woman in that position for the world to see and shame her, which again she knows first hand is what happens, I feel that is where the lack of empathy came through for me... I know, when something breaks us, we either turn bitter and hate everyone getting to live peacefully, not having to go through the pain, or we turn empathetic towards others to an extent of a fault, Suman and Sona respectively here... But ya, for me, at the end of the day, her daughter had been responsible for publically humiliating the family before, she could have had her vengeance in private also..


What difference remains between Pari leaking Pooja's news for revenge and Suman humiliating Veena in front of everyone for something that wasnt Veena's fault...

No need of hypocrisy .let the world see holier than thou naren aslj Roop .

Atleast from now naren starts behaving properly with every one

If in private he will never end his behaviour

Some times fake roops have to be shredded in pieces

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