KZK and Rural Viewers - Page 3

First of kudos for taking the time to draw statistics in response to a post.

I don't think you have actually captured the entire picture of what it means when one says that many of the viewers are rural masses.. You have probably missed the later part of the statement : underpriviledged and impoverished. Many people who live in urban cities also come from below poverty lines or from societies which do not belong to a certain socio-economic class, if you will . Infact, these people make up a much larger section of the population and as a result the TV viewing population too.and a lot of people who belong to fairly stable economic families may also enjoy entertainment which is very unreal and dramatic in nature. So the answer may not be as simple as drawing up the trp viewing data of rural centres.

Next, the basic problem is in thinking or suggesting that a particular person or section is in anyway inferior because he or she watches something. That is highly judgemental and snobbish. I don't say here that you're doing it, but I generally don't condone to the idea that rural population only watches something or even comments that it is Infact urban population who watch this or some other show. Fact of the matter remains, there are people who have been watching this show and that number steadily increased over a year, before it steadily fell and now it has stabilized and started increasing again. This is neither a place to discuss the who and what of it, nor do I have any inclination to do so. But the bottom line is people are watching something that they enjoy and they are entitled to do so. Because at the end of the day we are doing the same thing here. Irrespective of which Fandom we belong to, we have all been watching a show that has never been great in content because we get some pleasure out of it. So to sectionally judge a certain time frame of the show to be in some way superior intellectually or in terms of entertainment and diss the rest is not becoming at all and leaves, quite frankly, a very bad taste.

Originally posted by: RollingStones

My post was not an answer to your post , It was keeping in mind the views that I saw floating today in forum and your post too , Apologies if my post made you feel attacked or anything .

What I'm trying to point out here is when you say URBAN Audience it does not mean all who have access to Internet ....when I say internet It means watching show . Urban and rural both viewers are on whatsapp/facebook but naah not all watch show on Net .

Lot of Urban homemakers and family still prefer TV as a medium of entertainment .

That's why I said these viewers can be called rural in Urban area .

No.. I didn't feel attacked at all.. But I felt there was some miscommunication in words may be, which made you feel I had something against TRP or any kind of viewers.. I not good with Vocab so can happen :)

And here internet cannot be connected with TRP (in this case) or Viewership because its BARC all from TV sets (please correct me if I am wrong).

In context to this post, Internet gives us access to platforms to discuss things, be it a show, cricket match, actors, you name it.. and at times we get overwhelmed in our discussions and knowingly/unknowingly cross the line of dignity that often happens in our forum. Can't say about others as I not a member yet.

TV is still the top medium to access entertainment of any sort irrespective of the market.

Exceptions are always there, but overall data shows inclination of a Rural market that doesn't incline towards KZK. So all kind of viewers exist every where..

Reiterating - the post was made because a generalisation was made that Rural and backward class may connect more with Prerna and her actions, which was a bit disputable to me and that's when I digged in to get some real data instead of assuming..the post is not about who should watch what.. we should all watch what we want, and still be able peacefully discuss it if we have access to platforms to discuss..

Hattss off to your time and energy for this show 😆

How did you manage

Counter posting isnt allowed.

P.S your post looks like a direct personal attack on a member.

All this is well but I don't think the original post meant rural to be taken so literally. Rural includes semi urban and small town population too just like statistics, like the ones you have posted, however admirable do not tell the whole story. There are pockets of "rural" in the most urban of places. Take the original post in the spirit it is meant to be taken in and do not split hairs about urban and rural ..we know how urban some of our cities are where honour killings happen in broad daylight...so it is not about urban rural as much as it is about mindsets which can exist in Haryana Tamil Nadu or Canada.

The original post is talking essentially about making value judgements about people's viewing choices and that really is the crux.

Originally posted by: AllThatCritique

The power of fandoms is incredible when used properly by the artist or when they have a sense of identity other than being just a fan. Women TV artist fandoms(some male) and male movie fandoms are generally incredibly toxic in nature who resort to the vilest language. They make me want the fandom culture to die.

Fandoms are intersting honestly.. it could be for anything.. and interactions can be great to exchange povs is what I truly believe.. fan bole to you make an effort to know jiska bhi fan you are person, sport, place, show jo bhi..

Originally posted by: writ_in_water

All this is well but I don't think the original post meant rural to be taken so literally. Rural includes semi urban and small town population too just like statistics, like the ones you have posted, however admirable do not tell the whole story. There are pockets of "rural" in the most urban of places. Take the original post in the spirit it is meant to be taken in and do not split hairs about urban and rural ..we know how urban some of our cities are where honour killings happen in broad daylight...so it is not about urban rural as much as it is about mindsets which can exist in Haryana Tamil Nadu or Canada.

The original post is talking essentially about making value judgements about people's viewing choices and that really is the crux.

Reminds me of

Judgmental hai kia 🤣

Originally posted by: hope4u

First of kudos for taking the time to draw statistics in response to a post.

I don't think you have actually captured the entire picture of what it means when one says that many of the viewers are rural masses.. You have probably missed the later part of the statement : underpriviledged and impoverished. Many people who live in urban cities also come from below poverty lines or from societies which do not belong to a certain socio-economic class, if you will . Infact, these people make up a much larger section of the population and as a result the TV viewing population too.and a lot of people who belong to fairly stable economic families may also enjoy entertainment which is very unreal and dramatic in nature. So the answer may not be as simple as drawing up the trp viewing data of rural centres.

Next, the basic problem is in thinking or suggesting that a particular person or section is in anyway inferior because he or she watches something. That is highly judgemental and snobbish. I don't say here that you're doing it, but I generally don't condone to the idea that rural population only watches something or even comments that it is Infact urban population who watch this or some other show. Fact of the matter remains, there are people who have been watching this show and that number steadily increased over a year, before it steadily fell and now it has stabilized and started increasing again. This is neither a place to discuss the who and what of it, nor do I have any inclination to do so. But the bottom line is people are watching something that they enjoy and they are entitled to do so. Because at the end of the day we are doing the same thing here. Irrespective of which Fandom we belong to, we have all been watching a show that has never been great in content because we get some pleasure out of it. So to sectionally judge a certain time frame of the show to be in some way superior intellectually or in terms of entertainment and diss the rest is not becoming at all and leaves, quite frankly, a very bad taste.

EXACTLY !!!

Urban population too have Rural population ....and in no why you, me or even booky's post (post whom TM has quoted) is trying to look down upon Rural Audience ....

These people are infact BEST .... they just do their hardwork and find means of entertainment in tv , unlike online viewers who find entertainment in analyzing or discussing or even pulling down others through silly random online wars.

First of all, thank you Sunshine for such massive research. I was about to reply to the previous TRP thread, but it got closed. I believe, my comment there was not to DISS anyone. When I say WE ARE A REGRESSIVE CHAUVINSITIC SOCIETY, I am talking about myself as well.

I gyrate to OBJECTIFICATION of women item numbers, and then I am talking about women's equality too.

My previous posts too were for the same mentality of society. I have seen shows which have meaningful content has the lowest TRP, look at Sony TV, for instance.

And, then I see KZK picking up again due to women being shown fighting with each other. That was my entire point of discussion in the previous thread too. I sincerely apologise if those simple discussions were misconstrued with dissing anyone. I am not in the capacity to diss anyone. I expressed my displeasure over how such crap tracks fetch TRP's.

I am shocked to see that we are URBAN TRP contributors.

Having followed KZK from the beginning, it's only of late, and my forum activity has increased due time at hand or leisure.

I loved the whole point of your post and @bookworm too, who made some valid points.

I do not belong to any fandom nor believe in singing praises in the glory of tracks even if I don't like them.

I feel annoyed when women fight with each other, I feel angry when men are not held accountable for their actions. I feel agitated when all women are either shown to harassing MIL's or crazy vamps who are home breakers.

And, these fetch TRP's

Anyway, I hate it when women fight with each other, for some reason such tracks fetch TRP's.

I wish, there is someday when women say to each other

"Stop judging me for the choices I make. Stop expressing distrust when I say that I am a victim. Stop making your way of life as my benchmark for happiness. Stop competing with me as I am not your enemy. I am your friend, heart and soul!

Stop trying to trample me, for together we can achieve much more than by crushing each other. Stop giving men the key to your happiness. Give me your hand and hold my hand as I know what you’ve been through. I know how we need to hold each other’s back in a world to fight the existing misogyny and the sense of entitlement that the society bestows upon men. Let’s hear each other out. Let’s be each other’s heartbeat. Let’s not COMPETE but COMPLETE each other! You are a woman, so am I. You are blessed, so am I. You may be far, you may be near. But, you should know that I am there for you. Through words, through support, mentally and socially, I am there with you. You and I, this bond we share is rare!

You are a woman, so am I. I feel you, I see you and promise to hold you when times are dark and dreary. Reach out to me and look out for me.

Let’s not COMPETE but COMPLETE each other. You are a woman, so am I. ~ Another Woman

An open letter to all the wonderful women in this world. Let’s not compete but complete each other!"

Originally posted by: najma123

I loved your post, so had to make a comment. I LOVE reading analyses based on statistical backing simply because I SUCK at it though I am in awe of Statistics as a subject. And also, your post made a lot of sense. Coz I remember discussing this some months ago on the Forum. BARC releases separate rural and urban ratings, and there was a mention that rural charts have repetitions of old shows on Anmol and Pal and like you said Dangal TV (which doesn't come in my house thanks to that subscription system 😆). So TRP Aunties and all are urban people only..not rural people..and surprisingly I have noticed the TRP toppers - Bhagya shows rank well in the rural charts but not the current run, the old episodes on Anmol rank better. Though I have no idea why. 😆 But you made a thread about the same and it's high time we call ourselves Aunties/Uncles/Bros of TRP system. Though idk what the sample of the rating system is. Do you have any information regarding which cities form the sample size?

I truly agree with you Najma.. TRP system could probably the most faulty system ever.. we ourselves can't seem to figure how this data is even collected.. but this is what we have and are ready to fight for.. this could be another way to set some standards so that Add companies could target good TRP show and channel.. that possibly made for them more than for viewers.. humko jo dekhna hai dekh sakte hai without worrying about TRPs

Originally posted by: Sunn_shine

Reiterating - the post was made because a generalisation was made that Rural and backward class may connect more with Prerna and her actions, which was a bit disputable to me and that's when I digged in to get some real data instead of assuming..the post is not about who should watch what.. we should all watch what we want, and still be able peacefully discuss it if we have access to platforms to discuss..

Apologies for quoting you out of turn but the post in no way made any generalization. All the poster said was that while things such as gender equality and feminism are issues that we, the so called privileged class concern ourselves with, these concepts are not a reality for a lot of people:rural, underprivileged, poor etc. Such people may resonate more with a character like prerna. She has not said that rural people watch this show more than urban. That would've warranted all this data had that been the claim. It is not!