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understood. I was just saying that that saying resonates and has the same point.
I may not have the same knowledge as you all. But I feel that worrying may be a part of clinical depression at least it was in my case. Again I am not a psychiatrist. But this is what I felt through introspection. And hormonal imbalance is not the right term to use I think. All neurotransmitters are not hormones. And why this duality between physical and mental aspect.
Our mind and body are inseperable. How much do we know our mind? We may feel like we are not worrying but that worry may be there somewhere deep within.
Positive thinking helps. But then again at that moment positivity felt like a mirage even bitter. But now I know how much positivity helps. I have learnt to accept positivity. Not because the world is positive but because positivity is my weapon to survive in this world.
Yes neural circuits and neurotransmitters. That's the word I was looking for but forgot. Hormonal imbalance came to my mind because I have it because of PCOS. This is why I said I might not be factually correct. But either way it's as much as a physical problem as a mental.
I am not sure but can this be true that your medication gave you the power to take positivity not as a mirage but as the weapon to survive ? Could you be this positive before the medication started ? I am not arguing. I need to know.
About your worrying, is it possible that you had bit of an anxiety problem as well ? Anxiety often comes hand in hand with depression.
Originally posted by: Viswasruti
Agree with your words Storm.🤗I just wanted to say that , there is a solution to every problem on earth. If you can't find the solution on your own or solace for yourself, then is it not better to leave it to time to solve itself in its flow? To help a depression patient, it needs a correspondence between a psychological state and a physical event! We all know what it’s like to worry. Scary thoughts creep into our mind and we just can’t seem to shake them off. What if I lose my job? What if my marriage falls apart? What if I can’t pay off my debt? What if I die in the next moment? Some are illusory, some are real, depends on the situation of a person, but worrying is quite natural to each one, the level of worry decides your state of mind, and suggests the path of treatment.
To treat a depressed person, first we have to boost confidence in them, then only we can infuse some logical thinking into their minds, to take them away from their concerns and confusions.
It seems you are an expert in psychology, I always love to read your opinions on highly debatable points such as this.❤️
I don't know how a psychiatrist helps a depressed person. But I have a bit much of idea on how to help them as friends. You heard the Bengali proverb--- je thakurer je fool e pujo hoi take seta dewa uchit ? This is the case here.
You can't help the person with preassumptions. Each person on her own. First you have to know that person individually. A common remedy doesn't work for everyone. That's why you first have to question and listen before giving remedies. Every mind is different. You have to know the root. Like Vyapti might have been helped by reducing her worries. But I can't be. When I am in my normal self, I worry the least and am always ready with planB and planC in case planA doesn't work. I am usually very organized and composed with my emotions and very calm and content. I am usually a realist ( I believe in considering every angle-- both pros and cons, possible positive outcomes and negative outcomes and then arrive to a decision ). Just being positive for the sake of being positive doesn't work for me. Neither am I a negative person. I am content with both. In both cases my driving force is rational thoughts and not feelings or emotions.
But when I am having my bouts or loops of depression or whatever, I become a person I myself don't recognise. My emotions get all messed up and I don't find any meaning to anything. Even my rationality goes down the drain and works against me. Even then I don't worry much but get extremely indifferent. Like nothing matters and if someone tells me how everything matters at that time and how the world is so beautiful, it has zero effect on me. Sometimes this goes on for months.
RED won't work for me. I don't know why but compliments don't do anything for me ( specially when I know it's not real. Or it's something that doesn't matter imo ). The only way I can be convinced of anything is logical reasoning. So it's not something to come second in my case. It's the only thing that might work. Even compliments should be logical and genuine or it will do the opposite for me. Instead of boosting my confidence, unreal compliments will make me lose my faith on the person and I will start being pretentious with him.
I took my own example because I am the only one I have the capability to talk about clearly. Plus I can be a good example to understand why a common remedy can't be used for everyone.
Madhuri you know when this thought struck my mind?
I was watching a serial Bhootu. There was a daialogue like this "Jab bhi tumhara dukh tum par habi hone lage, tumhari parishani nakami pahad ban samne khadi ho jaye tab ekbar ekbar ankh uthakar unke taraf zaroor dekh lena jinke jivan se wo sab kho gaya jo aaj tumhare paas hai. Dukhi rehne ki hazar wajah dhudne se pehle khush rehne ki wo ek wajah samajhna bohot zaroori hai."
A very common dialogue. Earlier whenever I heard the first part I used to feel bitter. How can I be happy by someone else's sorrow? But that day meri dimak ki batti jali.
Were you having medication at that time or already had medication before that ? Or did it happen all by itself ?
Moumi I had medications before that. I did not say that medication was not needed in my case. Would I survive without the medications? Perhaps if the problem was nipped in the bud. That is why medication is not prescribed to everyone. Sometimes only counselling does the work. But in the state I was in medication was very much needed.
Medications has its side effects too. There are dangers of wrong treatment. You cannot discontinue medications in a whim.
Can medication cure depression? I do not know.
But it can help you in the struggle. It can keep it under control. I feel it is a support. Ultimately the battle is yours. Like in case of many physical diseases ultimately it is your immune system that fights the battle.
Dont take me too seriously. I think logically only when I do maths.
Moumi I had medications before that. I did not say that medication was not needed in my case. Would I survive without the medications? Perhaps if the problem was nipped in the bud. That is why medication is not prescribed to everyone. Sometimes only counselling does the work. But in the state I was in medication was very much needed.
Medications has its side effects too. There are dangers of wrong treatment. You cannot discontinue medications in a whim.
Can medication cure depression? I do not know.
But it can help you in the struggle. It can keep it under control. I feel it is a support. Ultimately the battle is yours. Like in case of many physical diseases ultimately it is your immune system that fights the battle.
Dont take me too seriously. I think logically only when I do maths.
You are the best judge of your character. But I can only state my opinion. I find you logical and very straight forward. Straight forwardness is one of the traits that make me very comfortable with a person. You are experienced regarding the treatment. So you are helping me with information in more than one way. You are logical enough for me.
