Naira and her single mama drama - Page 2

Originally posted by: Fireiswithinus

@fari - i am in no way in support of nairas running.... i just stated the fact that how indian people do this in real life...its thr truth in my opinion.. just because we are a little broad minded doesnt mean that everyone is. This is what everyone is talking about that how naira should have gone to singhanias.. i found her running a bad decision which could have been prevented but at the same i dont want her to go to singhanias because whenever in need she has gone thwir either kirti is troubled and gotten irritated or naksh gets jealous....blah.

I am a person who is the one needing support in every emotional or small problem...i never stated that abandoning of your loved ones is fine...i stated that i preferred that she should have told both the families and then went away...i have clearly stated it. Also her past does play a major role...she has not even matured a slightest...writers and auidence both are content with nairas character...showing her weak amd crying is the only thing auidence likes i agree totally.

Also assumptions are also about how she could have misscarried the baby... and how she would live in poverty and malnutrition... but thats not the case...

When a person who loves you and that same person goes and doubts your character then for once you will get a shock...that is normal...she got the same... i dont know why we keep forgetting that she came back....to talk and thought everyone assumed her dead...and when kartik cant forgive or still think about this dead person then what will she do.

Also i am sorry to state but this time i think in my sense is the first time naira has done anything for only herself. She thought about herself first and maybe that is why she is selfish and we cant connect with her..because till now she has become this maahan devi ....who sacrificed kartik in a second.

Anyways sorry for the rant...i kind of agree with all your points.... but at the same time my mind goes otherwise.

Sorry iam not intend to hurt anyone feelings just what i thought i posted

What are they trying to promote

Shaadi has become a joke .get married then again divorce and then again get divorced.

Run away from problem .

Question tour wifes character by just seeing her coming out of a room.

Steal your sister' s baby and present him as your own.

Its a joke . Then people say kaira are mahaan.

Relationshio has become a joke.

TopicMaker, I just want to point out that your topic title was really harsh, I thought it will be filled with harsh comments on Naira's "drama", but your post was not. It was just an update of the episode. =)) :P

Coming to discussion done on Naira here,

I don't agree to everything being targeted at Naira here. To begin with, to your point that during her labor, if something happened to Naira what would happen to Kairav and if she thought of it, I would say what if she may have filled a form or something but the hospital won't drag the guardian into picture until something actually happens, so calling out Naira on that point is something not right.

Secondly, I haven't seen "her satisfying herself by licking her wounds in private and cursing Kartik" like you are implying. Or maybe, have I missed on any such scenes, then feel free to enlighten me.

The reason she was working so hard, going through the physical hardship, was to make ends meet. She had to earn to survive.

I agree with the career part of yours. She could have had some worthy occupation or any experiences but she was nothing but a housewife. Creatives really are at fault with characterisation. It is actually funny for me, because before I got into watching this drama, few months back, I heard/read about how this show is "positive" and all along those lines, but I fail to see any positivity in the show. It just came across as another ITV drama. I was trying to catch up with old episodes since Kaira's entry but gave up because of it's so called "positivity" in the story line. I still believe Shivin/Kaira 's screen presence is a major part of the reason yrkkh got famous amongst different generations of viewers.

Back to Naira.

Naira, I believe, here, she is paying for the using the term "sherni", any blunders on her part gets her loads and loads of backlash and taunts for her being called a sherni.

I don't want to support any of the track, that is focused on showcasing Naira as a weakling.

But I want to support Naira here considering your points. Regarding her not following her designing career, the reality is much harsher when you step out, alone and try to build a career for yourself with absolutely no help. What if she tried but got no success and had to resort to physical labour tasks, because she needed money, urgently.

Professions like Dancer/management/designing, tell me this, Without connection, with no official degree or educational qualification, no experience, how can anyone start anything from scratch here, and what chances are there to succeed in such cases. And not to forget, No Money to back up. With start-ups you have to risk money, you have to gamble on profits, but the to begin with anything, you need money, and she didn't had that. So her resorting to working heavily is not that absurd.

My views may differ majorly from what Creatives were trying to show of Sherni Naira but from all the episodes that I have seen, I would conclude that, Naira was never "Sherni" in true sense to begin with. I didn't really find the bravery in her blood moment. Though I will accept she made herself into one. She worked on being brave against the society but she never was one to begin with and after marriage, with Kartik I saw that she found her safe base point, she soar high but at the end of the day returned back to her base. So Kartik's questioning on her character must have really shaken her up and running away was her forte, she has already done that before, she had experience there, so it must have been her goto decision. Going to Singhania is out of context here, she left that family before when she was young, her whole "family worshipping" stance is another glitch by creatives. Naira is shown to believe that the families, especially joint/extended family, are lovable, trustworthy and valuable and dependable, but her experiences and actions never said so. She has not really found them dependable enough to share her concerns and feelings. Kartik really swept her off of her feet and she got comfortably used to it. Now with Kartik not believing her, her running away doesn't sound absurd anymore.

Though I can understand many not sympathising with her. Coz of course she could have done better. But just because she ran away and had to cry and work, is "gross" is what I can't understand.

Naira's running away in the first place is not what I would have preferred to begin with, when she was not at all at fault. But she did. It was the need of track and the whole five year leap. Blame Creatives wholeheartedly. I totally support that.

But the hardship she went through post that, is not a gross moment or a drama, but the very reality of this world. You make mistake, but post that, you can't sit back and cry over the spilled milk. You have to work for money to survive. She didn't cry or complain in front of the world, so it's not dramatic attempt on her part.

Plight of a single mom is painful. Which you and I can only talk about the severity or leniency of it. It's easier said than done, whatever the circumstances were, be it her own decision or it was something that was actually forced on her. I can agree that creatives really failed to portray this. They took an easy way out of such a delicate topic within 20 or so minutes. I won't exactly sympathise but I also cannot not understand Naira at this point.

I dislike Naira's certain decisions but the reasons that were mentioned in the post and replies here are not convincing enough for me to call my punch brigade on her.

Coming to Kartik, boy! I am thankful for Creatives for this one reason, in recent previous epsiodes. It was getting irritating and frustrating when Kartik's thoughts were not given proper screen space. He was being too monotonous and unresponsive to his thoughts on situation. But he spoke up at, even though in intoxicated state. My heart went out to him. Kaira really had some "cute" moments there. That was a good attempt on Creatives' part, to excuse themselves from the reality of Kaira and insignificant deliberately induced dramas.

PS. I am not watching the episodes but just the clippings and promos, so I maybe wrong if something really gross or illogical was shown. Though I doubt I left on any major scenes. :)

taeji..

Wow! You are not a regular viewer but you are so right in your analysis of Naira...I feel very few can do so ..despite watching every episode without fail. I appreciate your presentation so much..Thank you for such wonderful post.

I totally agree with you on Naira’s physical labour shown yesterday which did not go down too well with most of the viewers ..may be I am wrong considering we have many who won’t share their views on India forum.

I agree it is not easy to pursue her designing career,since she did not have the famous Goenka tag now to back her at every step. World runs on money power. Then name matters and then talent.

Naira must have realised this and adopted the means that won’t ask her any reference or certificates for that matter. I find it believable.

Naira never tried to dramatise her ordeals. She did not attempt to share her trauma even with Kartik till she could cough up everything due to her intoxication.She cried only in the privacy of her surroundings but didn’t do so before others.

I am so relieved on watching Naira trying to call Kartik during her labour. She did try but destiny and Kartik did not respond.

Finally..Kaira..Shivin ...I cant differentiate between both. That much they identified with their roles and the result is ..just out of the world..

Originally posted by: taeji

But I want to support Naira here considering your points. Regarding her not following her designing career, the reality is much harsher when you step out, alone and try to build a career for yourself with absolutely no help. What if she tried but got no success and had to resort to physical labour tasks, because she needed money, urgently.

Your point can also be taken into consideration as maybe she tried to find job...beside everything she was working in a different city Goa where nobody knew her real identity...or its difficult to find good job in short duration...and she urgently needed money...but the point is....she herself might not have opted for few jobs in order to hide her identity...

Professions like Dancer/management/designing, tell me this, Without connection, with no official degree or educational qualification, no experience, how can anyone start anything from scratch here, and what chances are there to succeed in such cases. And not to forget, No Money to back up. With start-ups you have to risk money, you have to gamble on profits, but the to begin with anything, you need money, and she didn't had that. So her resorting to working heavily is not that absurd.

She had official dance training by renowned professional dancer...she had her dance academy certificate...or her academic qualification degrees as she completed her education during her first pregnancy...but than she had to return to GV to have her certificates....which she couldn't....Her hiding her identity was the main cause of most of the problems she faced...she chose this life on her own....she could have stayed there...and could have taken her already established profession to new heights...but she chose to stay away...she chose hardships herself!....

My views may differ majorly from what Creatives were trying to show of Sherni Naira but from all the episodes that I have seen, I would conclude that, Naira was never "Sherni" in true sense to begin with. I didn't really find the bravery in her blood moment. Though I will accept she made herself into one. She worked on being brave against the society but she never was one to begin with and after marriage, with Kartik I saw that she found her safe base point, she soar high but at the end of the day returned back to her base. So Kartik's questioning on her character must have really shaken her up and running away was her forte, she has already done that before, she had experience there, so it must have been her goto decision. Going to Singhania is out of context here, she left that family before when she was young, her whole "family worshipping" stance is another glitch by creatives. Naira is shown to believe that the families, especially joint/extended family, are lovable, trustworthy and valuable and dependable, but her experiences and actions never said so. She has not really found them dependable enough to share her concerns and feelings. Kartik really swept her off of her feet and she got comfortably used to it. Now with Kartik not believing her, her running away doesn't sound absurd anymore.

@bold 100% Agreed here....

Though I can understand many not sympathising with her. Coz of course she could have done better. But just because she ran away and had to cry and work, is "gross" is what I can't understand.

Naira's running away in the first place is not what I would have preferred to begin with, when she was not at all at fault. But she did. It was the need of track and the whole five year leap. Blame Creatives wholeheartedly. I totally support that.

Naira running away....hiding her identity....depriving Kairav of good life....depriving Kairav of father's love and family's love...was worst ever decision shown by FL to take 5 year leap...

But the hardship she went through post that, is not a gross moment or a drama, but the very reality of this world. You make mistake, but post that, you can't sit back and cry over the spilled milk. You have to work for money to survive. She didn't cry or complain in front of the world, so it's not dramatic attempt on her part.

@bold maybe you missed those episodes...but she cried a lott...and complaint a lot too...though not infront of world...or even not infront of her friend...but in her self talks...

Plight of a single mom is painful. Which you and I can only talk about the severity or leniency of it. It's easier said than done, whatever the circumstances were, be it her own decision or it was something that was actually forced on her. I can agree that creatives really failed to portray this. They took an easy way out of such a delicate topic within 20 or so minutes. I won't exactly sympathise but I also cannot not understand Naira at this point.

I dislike Naira's certain decisions but the reasons that were mentioned in the post and replies here are not convincing enough for me to call my punch brigade on her.

@bold...her poor decisions made several people suffer...and they are still suffering alongwith her own self...

Coming to Kartik, boy! I am thankful for Creatives for this one reason, in recent previous epsiodes. It was getting irritating and frustrating when Kartik's thoughts were not given proper screen space. He was being too monotonous and unresponsive to his thoughts on situation. But he spoke up at, even though in intoxicated state. My heart went out to him. Kaira really had some "cute" moments there. That was a good attempt on Creatives' part, to excuse themselves from the reality of Kaira and insignificant deliberately induced dramas.

@bold I agree...his POV wasn't clear previously...but now it is....he want Naira and Kairav in his life...but for that Naira must also be willing to stay with him forgetting about being sacrifices ki devi and setting Vedika's life...maybe Naira also somewhere thought Kartik want to move on with Vedika...or she herself doesn't want to stay with him...as she hasn't yet forgiven him...

PS. I am not watching the episodes but just the clippings and promos, so I maybe wrong if something really gross or illogical was shown. Though I doubt I left on any major scenes. :)

Originally posted by: Fari_15

Glad I am not the only one.

I loved the episode. Most parts were perfect especially the way Kartik held her and kept asking her if she ever missed him, etc.

The way the flashbacks were shown was quite nice. Rather than Naira narrating the story, they made Kartik a part of those scenes which made them bearable.

I am way over the who’s right and who’s wrong argument, however, I just can’t sympathise with Naira as much as most people are claiming to, because quite honestly, I feel she chose this life for herself and her baby. Kartik didn't have a choice when he thought Naira had died, Naira had one; to return to Udaipur, confront Kartik and then leave him, but she chose to stay away from her family and endure the hardships on her own.

Screw Kartik and the Goenkas, the Singhania’s would have supported her through her pregnancy. She was shown to join the Singhania’s business when Akshara died. She could have done that again because Naksh mainly looks after Krishna anyways.

I would have been so satisfied had they shown Naira getting back at Kartik by proving once and for all that she doesn’t need him in her life to be successful. Isn’t that what empowerment is about?

Single mother’s don’t have to be poor or alone in their lives. They don’t have to do odd jobs to provide a living for their kids. It’s unfortunate that the cvs can’t come out of their narrow mindedness when it comes to women. What message was sent out? A woman is gonna end up struggling if she decides to leave her husband who questioned her character?

I have nothing against Naira but the way the cvs have presented her character post-leap. It’s honestly sad to think that this track is being written by women themselves.

@bold Kartik had choice not to believe she died....that also when he didn't saw her dead body...he had choice not to believe officers presumptions "alligators MIGHT have eaten up her body"...there were no traces of her being alive neither of her being dead...Kartik had choice not to hold her funeral after few hours of her death that also when no dead body was found...if scenario was different...if she saw people her family her Kartik making efforts contacting people to search her...if she saw her missing report instead of her funeral after few hours of being missing from accident spot...if she saw Kartik lifeless without her instead of seeing him arguing with Mihir...would she go away?...A girl who returned even after her loyalty being questioned by her husband...would disappear if she saw him restless and lifeless without her...the scenario infront of her was different...If she saw Singhania ladies in deep grief instead of repeating monologues...Akshara's dead body wasn't also found...would she go away?...though her running away can't be justified...but if she ran away even after seeing a different scenario...that would have made her irredeemable...

Kartik had choice to find her when Aditya told him she is alive...Kartik had choice to connect the dots...Kairav...name they chose for their son...Kairav's mother...who choose to hide from Kartik and is a single mother....Naira's presence...he felt Naira's presence around him in Goa...

Kartik had choice not to promise Vedika anything when he won't be able to give her anything..."rang gehra hoga waqt legega par gehra hoga"...Kartik had choice to be honest with Suwarna...that he can't move on....what he said was in the heat of moment...he can never move on from Naira...

@bold completely agree...

The entire flash back was lame ... so does she mean to say people who are on the low income profile don’t go through this and only she did in the whole wide world ... a smart educated woman need not do that ... like if your a doctor and seperate from your husband would you stop working as a doc 😝 trp brownies this is all for .. nothing else