Recently Seen Movies - 12 - Page 15

Originally posted by: Himalaya10

^ I watch movies very closely,... and few times I need repeat / rewind of dialect or scene-sequence, pause for personal needs,... if it went un-understood or found interesting,..even watch a little bit of beginning again, after completion,... to get the story completely,.. also flexibility,.. Watch at convenience in breaks, interval of time and day,...mod and side-work,..

Also, big screen and theater at home, now a days,... sofa,.. legs stretching, loose trouser and relaxing home-dress comfort, pizza- popcorn,... smthg to mulch on,... light and sound adjust facility,.... No disturbance climate,.. own dark nights, silence watching after 10pm,.... and these all luxury gives a more comfort level zone,.... !

Have seen tons of VDOS on tours and travellizm from local library VHSs long ago,.. when DVDs were not even there,... Travel to Rome, Paris, London train safars, .. and documentaries by well-known Travelers,... etc. I like that way, as camera zooming and angle is more sharper from bird view and all diff directions, even better than you physically go there and watch Big Ben or Eiffel Tower,..

You did not see Yarana of Big B, at its prime-times of Peak? How come ? Certain movies when you watch after-time in diff. time-era they seems average, as Time, flavor, has passed by,.... and surpassed technology, now do not let you admit its original charm which was at that time,.....

well.. can't argue there about the comforts of watching at home 😃

..do you have a recommendations on travel documentaries? I haven't seen any..

Ha, my interest in films is rather a recent 'development' :p ..taken a deep interest in it since 3 years and am yet to watch many popular films across all languages.. ya, sometimes it can be hard to appreciate a popular movie from decades ago, but I guess we must try and look at it for what it is, reminding ourselves of the times it was made in :)

^^

I like, comfort,..loose dress where hands/legs can be bent, stretched and spreaded w/ full relax, ,having sofa and tons of pillows in back,.. and having soda can,popcorn and my own lighting and speaker system,.. , time, silence and theater effect comfort zone climate and then on a curved Samsung big screen / SONY Bravia at my old house,.. you start bluray DVD of say, MI of Tom cruise, John wick,.. or Bahubali,….. !! Boy ! Mazaahi kuchh aur hai !

Documentary, I don’t remember in particular,.. but now a days, on YT you can search box and many foreign tourist travelers make on India too, You can find on Netflix, recent 2-3 documentaries on YT and Netflix on Sunny’s life were good, If U in US, in any local library they have tons and tons of in VHS and DVDs,….. about tour and trip to, Mountains, London, paris main areas, Train rides in worth-seeing places, 3D of Taj mahal, Swiss, Exotic train safars, in ice-land, Europe, Niagra fall, Europe and what not,…. But few narrators just take you with them in a ride,…. And gives a so close feel that you are also w/ him,…

I watched a lot in VHS days,….. on VCRs,..long ago,… YT has many interesting ones too, if you search box with proper word with “ My tour/trip to India “ and such,.. Prime may have few,…Few foreign guy’s names, I forgot,.. but they take you in ride as if you are enjoying and walking with him in their journey,…

Smtms such YT vdos guys ( below link ) are also funny as well as, very entertaining,… giving you a glimpse, an honest touch and feel, as if you are standing right with him, next to him,… Lol.

After all,.. life is all about what good you watch, see,read, write, experience, sense, feel, learn and make a practical use of it,..to build your persona, personality and though-process and deeds,.. ! isn’t it ?

The following inspirational quotation has been attributed to a wide variety of people: Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away.

.

See this Jolly Guy ! :))

https://bit.ly/321gxs8

.

Jallikkettu is spellbound. 🙏🙌

It is amazing to watch how the master craftsman Lijo Jose Pellissery proficiently convinced the audience that the man is just animalistic. Unlike the original ending of the 'Maoist', S. Harish and R Jayakumar drawn a line to show the difference between human nature and animal instincts intriguingly. The climax sequence setting the bar high as the director had proved his movies as 'local is international'. 🔥🔥

Apart from LJP, a few more names have to be mentioned and appalauded. Gireesh Gangadharan for the grandiose work behind the camera, Renganath Ravee for the terrific sound design, Prashanth Pillai for the riveting score, and for sure the entire crew for the gargantuan production work. It is a world class production, I would say.

About performances, apart from the leading actors, none could deliver a remarkable performance or screen language. It is very unlike in LJP movies. The lead actors like Chemban Vinod Jose as Kalan Varkey, Antony Varghese as Antony, and Jafar Idukki as Kurian are terrific on the screen, but surprise package was Sabumon Abdussamad as Kuttachan. His intro is to the extreme. Prashant Murali and Tinu Pappachan held their own screen space.

Jallikkattu is a masterpiece from Lijo Jose Factory. It should be celebrated in Big screen for the complete experience. It demands a theatre with good projection and audio quality too. Go, watch and enlighten..!! You will not be disappointed.

Rating - 3.15 / 5 Jallikkattu - Highrange review

Dream girl

100000/10

Enough said. I can’t remember a Hindi movie where I have last laughed this much in the theater. I think there were only two scenes where I didn’t laugh and that’s only because they were serious scenes. My stomach muscles are still hurting from last night. No lie, promise. Please go watch! Ayushman, Annu Kapoor, the actor that plays the sardar have such amazing camaraderie. It was hilarious. I would watch it over and over again. I can’t even pick a favorite scene 😆

I have seen War and despite some issues it is genuinely a very entertaining movie 🌟

I feel some of the action scenes went on too long. That was the main issue. It was all well done but it kinda felt too much. Other than that it was awesome. Hrithik/Tiger were pretty much equal performance wise. Spoiler Alert : I did love Tigers dark side. 🐅 It was a unique twist. Vaani was there to showcase her body and it was awesome 👏 The songs could’ve been skipped. It was nice masala entertainment 7.5 on the Maroon Scale

Joker ! [ 2019, English ]

So, Folks ? I made it, finally . The movie naturally is not on DVD yet, but I found it on Leonflix and watched the theater copy.

It's an Oscar material and naturally, for the classes and not for da masses. A psycho-path's agony tale, the movie is all about,...... It's a poetry of pain,... ! You need to create a mood to watch this kinda movie to explore thro dismay, disdain and dismal path of one's life,.. Or you will shut it off in first 15 minutes. Angel has defined the movie the best, and no1 i've seen so far can die-hard analyses it to that level filled with self-instincts. Last time, we had Tom Hank's Forrest Gump,... and Now we have Joker,...

But,... tell ya,... if I'm to speak my heart,..

Joker:

Holy Sh1t!! Joker was absolutely brilliant. Still processing what I watched. It was raw, incredibly dark and uncomfortable to watch, but was immaculately made. The writing, acting, cinematography, music and direction are impeccable. It is pure cinema. Art!!

The writing is so great that it keeps you guessing on which part of the movie is real and which part is just Arthur Fleck's (Joker) mind. The brilliance is that the script stays true to Joker's line from the Killing Joke - “Sometimes I remember it one way, sometimes another…if I’m going to have a past, I prefer it to be multiple choice!.” The movie is a slow burn at the start, yet riveting. But, once Arthur embraces the joker in him, it takes off. The 3rd act was just incredible!!!

Joaquin Phoenix's acting is so phenomenal that you just melt away from your reality and get into the character's mind/life....mesmerizing! #Oscar. Ledger's Joker was different - had Batman completing him in the movie. But this movie is a character study of a man who could become a joker in our society. so real and dangerous. A cautionary tale. If not better, Joaquin is at par with Heath in my book.

The writing and acting in the movie just play with your morality. You see the story unfold of a loner guy who is beaten down by the society...and feel totally empathetic, but at the same time you don't sympathize for him. You see him descend into the depths of evil and brutality and you are like, "I get you man, but you didn't have to do that - that's straight out insane." The movie humanizes the most acclaimed villain. You feel for Arthur, but at some point you are like - this guy is a cold hearted murderer. You can see him trying very hard to be good, but it is just not in him to control that monster that resides within him. It's a tragedy. JP has masterfully performed that step by step descent into madness, until finally that one little push makes him let the monster loose. Visually too, whenever he is going up the stairs to light in the movie, the director shows it as a drudging climb for him....and whenever he is in the joker mode he is climbing some stairs down with springs in his steps. It is as if, he wants his inner monster to drag him down to the depths of darkness. The visual storytelling in this movie is impeccable.

Cannot call it a masterpiece yet (only time can tell that),................

Now I have seen Di Niro's movies of Taxi Driver era which is the mould of Joker. So I kinda sorta knew what to expect, at least in terms of the cinematic portrayal of the character. Perhaps thats the reason why I wasnt 'blown away' like I was by Dark knight.

Still, good for WB to have the foresight to support this project fully. One only hopes they improve on this for their other DC projects.

but is a brilliant movie! It's the ability of the movie to make you see Gotham (or Our World) from the head of joker, yet not justify his actions. It makes you to see the ugliness in the society and its effect on people and it makes you ask questions. It shows light on the downtrodden and mentally affected population.

Music (score), cinematography and editing truly elevate the film. Wont be surprised if the movie gets nominated for Oscars in those categories. Some scenes just make you feel raw or pitiful or empathetic. Contrary to all the controversies created by the woke bloggers/critics, the violence in the movies was only in 3 scenes, but oh boy -was it brutal and visceral!!?? Nothing in the movie justifies anything that Joker does. Even at the end as he becomes the 'hero' of rioters, it felt empty...not triumphant.

To appreciate “Joker” I believe you have to have either gone through something traumatic in your lifetime (and I believe most of us have) or understand somewhere in your psyche what true compassion is (which usually comes from having gone through something traumatic, unfortunately). An example of dangerous compassion would be to, say, make a film made about the fragility of the human psyche, and make it so raw, so brutal, so balletic that by the time you leave the theatre you not only don’t want to hurt anything but you desperately want an answer and a solution to the violence and mental health issues that have spun out of control around us. This film makes you hurt and only in pain do we ever want to change. It’s all in the irony of trauma — a fine line between the resentment of wanting to hurt society back for raping you of a decent life, for not protecting you, and accepting what feels like alien feelings with softening to those others who seem freakish in our era of judgment, and digital damnation.

Like kids in Middle School: man, they can just be mean. For no reason. And, sometimes, those awful little clicky kids breed an evil in someone that rages much later, when everyone pretends we are all back to normal, when we all thought it had just manned up and gone away.

We have a habit of hating and ostracizing and dividing and sweeping our problems under the rug. Joker, is simply lifting the rug and looking underneath it. Nothing more. Nothing less. It’s there.

I guess the reason this movie could potentially go down as a masterpiece is that, Todd Phillips - apart from giving a serious, raw, unsettling, socially relevant and immaculately written, acted, shot and scored movie - has masterfully stayed true to the character's (Joker's) mythology. He and Scott Silver have weaved a story that really is a multiple choice....very Nolanesque!

a) all of what happened is true

b) some of it is true (then, what is true and what is just joker's mind?)

c) none of it is true

You can fit any or all of the above to the Joker's narrative.

SPOILER (highlight to read):

Even the timeline that we saw this Joker to be in - 80s Gotham - can be misleading. At the end, we see Joker talking to the psych therapist at Arkham Asylum. After he is finished with the "narration" of his story, we see a shot of young Bruce Wayne standing next to his fallen parents in the alley. he laughs. The therapist asked what is the joke. He shakes his head and quips, "you wouldn't understand." We then see him walking out in the hallway with blood stained footmarks, and he is then chased by a doctor/security/authority. The movies ends showing a cat and mouse chase between him and authority - very jokerish.

If you see the the setting, Arkham Asylum, in this shot -it is actually fully sanitized....white and clean. And even the therapist is clean and looks a lot well off. The facility looks well made and maintained. So, is this an older joker of present time narrating a backstory from the 80s era that is made up? Is he just making up a story to connect him to Batman (after he gets to know Batman's identity?)

You can make it whichever way you want and fit it in. WB can even use this joker in future Batman movies (which I hope they don't!), and you can see it fit. You have a riveting, cohesive backstory as told by Joker himself, who is the worst narrator of all time! The Joker will say anything to get your sympathy and trust.

The way that this grimdark avant-garde movie fits perfectly into Joker's mythology makes it truly a brilliant movie!! It was a huge risk - not getting it right. But, I think you can't get a better Joker origin than this on film! Im glad WB had the balls to go for it

In the movie, the joker tells an unfunny 'joke' about society to the television host (DeNiro), and the host looks quizzical and says, " I'm waiting for the punchline, pal". the Joker says, "there's no punchline." Well, THAT's the 'Joker' movie.

Disney's Marvel cannot and will not make an avant garde movie like this!!

Verdict : 9.00 / 10 ( Warn ya',... Classes only, Not 4 Masses )

___________

Originally posted by: Himalaya10

^^

I like, comfort,..loose dress where hands/legs can be bent, stretched and spreaded w/ full relax, ,having sofa and tons of pillows in back,.. and having soda can,popcorn and my own lighting and speaker system,.. , time, silence and theater effect comfort zone climate and then on a curved Samsung big screen / SONY Bravia at my old house,.. you start bluray DVD of say, MI of Tom cruise, John wick,.. or Bahubali,….. !! Boy ! Mazaahi kuchh aur hai !

Documentary, I don’t remember in particular,.. but now a days, on YT you can search box and many foreign tourist travelers make on India too, You can find on Netflix, recent 2-3 documentaries on YT and Netflix on Sunny’s life were good, If U in US, in any local library they have tons and tons of in VHS and DVDs,….. about tour and trip to, Mountains, London, paris main areas, Train rides in worth-seeing places, 3D of Taj mahal, Swiss, Exotic train safars, in ice-land, Europe, Niagra fall, Europe and what not,…. But few narrators just take you with them in a ride,…. And gives a so close feel that you are also w/ him,…

I watched a lot in VHS days,….. on VCRs,..long ago,… YT has many interesting ones too, if you search box with proper word with “ My tour/trip to India “ and such,.. Prime may have few,…Few foreign guy’s names, I forgot,.. but they take you in ride as if you are enjoying and walking with him in their journey,…

Smtms such YT vdos guys ( below link ) are also funny as well as, very entertaining,… giving you a glimpse, an honest touch and feel, as if you are standing right with him, next to him,… Lol.

After all,.. life is all about what good you watch, see,read, write, experience, sense, feel, learn and make a practical use of it,..to build your persona, personality and though-process and deeds,.. ! isn’t it ?

The following inspirational quotation has been attributed to a wide variety of people: Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away.

.

See this Jolly Guy ! :))

https://bit.ly/321gxs8

.

hehe.. you remind me of my mom, who doesn't like going to cinemas while we can watch at home :p ..well ..agreed.. though I love actual theater too :p

Ahh ya, there's so many videos on youtube, but was hoping to find something akin to BBC's nature films or like Baraka/Samsara... a full-fledged docu-film :)

@bold.. so true 😃

That quotation is what we seek for in life, na :) ..hmm.. I want to watch a movie that will take my breathe away now.

Thanks for the link, the ending about towel 😆

Originally posted by: Himalaya10

Joker ! [ 2019, English ]

So, Folks ? I made it, finally . The movie naturally is not on DVD yet, but I found it on Leonflix and watched the theater copy.

It's an Oscar material and naturally, for the classes and not for da masses. A psycho-path's agony tale, the movie is all about,...... It's a poetry of pain,... ! You need to create a mood to watch this kinda movie to explore thro dismay, disdain and dismal path of one's life,.. Or you will shut it off in first 15 minutes. Angel has defined the movie the best, and no1 i've seen so far can die-hard analyses it to that level filled with self-instincts. Last time, we had Tom Hank's Forrest Gump,... and Now we have Joker,...

But,... tell ya,... if I'm to speak my heart,..

Joker:

Holy Sh1t!! Joker was absolutely brilliant. Still processing what I watched. It was raw, incredibly dark and uncomfortable to watch, but was immaculately made. The writing, acting, cinematography, music and direction are impeccable. It is pure cinema. Art!!

The writing is so great that it keeps you guessing on which part of the movie is real and which part is just Arthur Fleck's (Joker) mind. The brilliance is that the script stays true to Joker's line from the Killing Joke - “Sometimes I remember it one way, sometimes another…if I’m going to have a past, I prefer it to be multiple choice!.” The movie is a slow burn at the start, yet riveting. But, once Arthur embraces the joker in him, it takes off. The 3rd act was just incredible!!!

Joaquin Phoenix's acting is so phenomenal that you just melt away from your reality and get into the character's mind/life....mesmerizing! #Oscar. Ledger's Joker was different - had Batman completing him in the movie. But this movie is a character study of a man who could become a joker in our society. so real and dangerous. A cautionary tale. If not better, Joaquin is at par with Heath in my book.

The writing and acting in the movie just play with your morality. You see the story unfold of a loner guy who is beaten down by the society...and feel totally empathetic, but at the same time you don't sympathize for him. You see him descend into the depths of evil and brutality and you are like, "I get you man, but you didn't have to do that - that's straight out insane." The movie humanizes the most acclaimed villain. You feel for Arthur, but at some point you are like - this guy is a cold hearted murderer. You can see him trying very hard to be good, but it is just not in him to control that monster that resides within him. It's a tragedy. JP has masterfully performed that step by step descent into madness, until finally that one little push makes him let the monster loose. Visually too, whenever he is going up the stairs to light in the movie, the director shows it as a drudging climb for him....and whenever he is in the joker mode he is climbing some stairs down with springs in his steps. It is as if, he wants his inner monster to drag him down to the depths of darkness. The visual storytelling in this movie is impeccable.

Cannot call it a masterpiece yet (only time can tell that),................

Now I have seen Di Niro's movies of Taxi Driver era which is the mould of Joker. So I kinda sorta knew what to expect, at least in terms of the cinematic portrayal of the character. Perhaps thats the reason why I wasnt 'blown away' like I was by Dark knight.

Still, good for WB to have the foresight to support this project fully. One only hopes they improve on this for their other DC projects.

but is a brilliant movie! It's the ability of the movie to make you see Gotham (or Our World) from the head of joker, yet not justify his actions. It makes you to see the ugliness in the society and its effect on people and it makes you ask questions. It shows light on the downtrodden and mentally affected population.

Music (score), cinematography and editing truly elevate the film. Wont be surprised if the movie gets nominated for Oscars in those categories. Some scenes just make you feel raw or pitiful or empathetic. Contrary to all the controversies created by the woke bloggers/critics, the violence in the movies was only in 3 scenes, but oh boy -was it brutal and visceral!!?? Nothing in the movie justifies anything that Joker does. Even at the end as he becomes the 'hero' of rioters, it felt empty...not triumphant.

To appreciate “Joker” I believe you have to have either gone through something traumatic in your lifetime (and I believe most of us have) or understand somewhere in your psyche what true compassion is (which usually comes from having gone through something traumatic, unfortunately). An example of dangerous compassion would be to, say, make a film made about the fragility of the human psyche, and make it so raw, so brutal, so balletic that by the time you leave the theatre you not only don’t want to hurt anything but you desperately want an answer and a solution to the violence and mental health issues that have spun out of control around us. This film makes you hurt and only in pain do we ever want to change. It’s all in the irony of trauma — a fine line between the resentment of wanting to hurt society back for raping you of a decent life, for not protecting you, and accepting what feels like alien feelings with softening to those others who seem freakish in our era of judgment, and digital damnation.

Like kids in Middle School: man, they can just be mean. For no reason. And, sometimes, those awful little clicky kids breed an evil in someone that rages much later, when everyone pretends we are all back to normal, when we all thought it had just manned up and gone away.

We have a habit of hating and ostracizing and dividing and sweeping our problems under the rug. Joker, is simply lifting the rug and looking underneath it. Nothing more. Nothing less. It’s there.

I guess the reason this movie could potentially go down as a masterpiece is that, Todd Phillips - apart from giving a serious, raw, unsettling, socially relevant and immaculately written, acted, shot and scored movie - has masterfully stayed true to the character's (Joker's) mythology. He and Scott Silver have weaved a story that really is a multiple choice....very Nolanesque!

a) all of what happened is true

b) some of it is true (then, what is true and what is just joker's mind?)

c) none of it is true

You can fit any or all of the above to the Joker's narrative.

SPOILER (highlight to read):

Even the timeline that we saw this Joker to be in - 80s Gotham - can be misleading. At the end, we see Joker talking to the psych therapist at Arkham Asylum. After he is finished with the "narration" of his story, we see a shot of young Bruce Wayne standing next to his fallen parents in the alley. he laughs. The therapist asked what is the joke. He shakes his head and quips, "you wouldn't understand." We then see him walking out in the hallway with blood stained footmarks, and he is then chased by a doctor/security/authority. The movies ends showing a cat and mouse chase between him and authority - very jokerish.

If you see the the setting, Arkham Asylum, in this shot -it is actually fully sanitized....white and clean. And even the therapist is clean and looks a lot well off. The facility looks well made and maintained. So, is this an older joker of present time narrating a backstory from the 80s era that is made up? Is he just making up a story to connect him to Batman (after he gets to know Batman's identity?)

You can make it whichever way you want and fit it in. WB can even use this joker in future Batman movies (which I hope they don't!), and you can see it fit. You have a riveting, cohesive backstory as told by Joker himself, who is the worst narrator of all time! The Joker will say anything to get your sympathy and trust.

The way that this grimdark avant-garde movie fits perfectly into Joker's mythology makes it truly a brilliant movie!! It was a huge risk - not getting it right. But, I think you can't get a better Joker origin than this on film! Im glad WB had the balls to go for it

In the movie, the joker tells an unfunny 'joke' about society to the television host (DeNiro), and the host looks quizzical and says, " I'm waiting for the punchline, pal". the Joker says, "there's no punchline." Well, THAT's the 'Joker' movie.

Disney's Marvel cannot and will not make an avant garde movie like this!!

Verdict : 9.00 / 10 ( Warn ya',... Classes only, Not 4 Masses )

___________

ahhh wow, amazing review!!👏👏 Gave me new insights and verbalized things I felt, loved it.. Got so much to say again on my end, but then it will just become a giant wall of rambling... gosh, want to desperately watch it again!

I thought about how it may all be in Joker's head too, but.. even if it was made up by him, even if the story he narrates is not what really happened.. the pain, the irony, and the madness that he shows, is still real na... That is why, plot felt irrelevant and makes the film more interesting (the dubious nature of narration) , but it's the psyche that he gives us a peak into.. that was all that I needed to see. That tells me, that Joker did go through a lot of trauma, maybe the specifics are different.. specifics anyway are never exactly the same for any of us recalling a past memory, and may definitely not be the same for someone like him with weak mental health or a highly manipulative mind ...but the emotion, is so real.. whatever the emotion was..

"There is no punchline" .......how true :) ..and, how ironic, the show is about comedy, but somehow the entire stand-up comedy thing didn't make me laugh, infact it was repulsive and sad how there's a dark-side to something that is supposed to make us laugh.. it shocks me..

The thing you explained about ascending and descending stairs :D ..never thought of it that way, but makes total sense now when I recall the scenes when it happened.. this film has many such metaphorical scenes without being too direct:)

Ya.. it's a sad truth, perhaps nothing more sad/shocking than this exists in the world.. that little kids can be very cruel.. how does that happen? I don't understand it.

Himalaya, I'm going to go ahead and commit blasphemy by saying this but... JP was better than Ledger ☺️ IMO!!!!!! They're both outstanding Jokers, but but but... JP was so real, was so frighteningly real.. Ledger's Joker is the ultimate comic book/cinematic representation... JP is so real, so human.. (please don't hate me for saying this, I'll watch Dark Knight again _/\_ )

And, the level of irony in "that's life" ..wah I loved it his imitation of it :*

2 short reviews:

200 pounds beauty

Brilliant acting by the lead. About a woman who is fat and sings for a star but from behind the backstage . She goes in for plastic surgery to become thin and hot and get opportunity to sing live rather than be the voice of someone else. Also she likes the boss and crushes on him.... its a comedy plus drama. worth a watch because of acting. It was quite interesting. Your feelings for the characters will change throughout the movie.

Crush and blush: about a woman who sometimes goes red in face because of a dermatological problem. She is a teacher and likes her already married colleague who in turn likes a new cute teacher. This film doesnt have a genre. Its dark at some parts sometimes its comedy or drama. The second half seemed misfit and unrealistic. .... However the acting by the daughter of the married male teacher is praiseworthy. Its ok but nothing great.

Originally posted by: Angel-likeDevil

ahhh wow, amazing review!!👏👏 Gave me new insights and verbalized things I felt, loved it.. Got so much to say again on my end, but then it will just become a giant wall of rambling... gosh, want to desperately watch it again!

I thought about how it may all be in Joker's head too, but.. even if it was made up by him, even if the story he narrates is not what really happened.. the pain, the irony, and the madness that he shows, is still real na... That is why, plot felt irrelevant and makes the film more interesting (the dubious nature of narration) , but it's the psyche that he gives us a peak into.. that was all that I needed to see. That tells me, that Joker did go through a lot of trauma, maybe the specifics are different.. specifics anyway are never exactly the same for any of us recalling a past memory, and may definitely not be the same for someone like him with weak mental health or a highly manipulative mind ...but the emotion, is so real.. whatever the emotion was..

"There is no punchline" .......how true :) ..and, how ironic, the show is about comedy, but somehow the entire stand-up comedy thing didn't make me laugh, infact it was repulsive and sad how there's a dark-side to something that is supposed to make us laugh.. it shocks me..

The thing you explained about ascending and descending stairs :D ..never thought of it that way, but makes total sense now when I recall the scenes when it happened.. this film has many such metaphorical scenes without being too direct:)

Ya.. it's a sad truth, perhaps nothing more sad/shocking than this exists in the world.. that little kids can be very cruel.. how does that happen? I don't understand it.

Himalaya, I'm going to go ahead and commit blasphemy by saying this but... JP was better than Ledger ☺️ IMO!!!!!! They're both outstanding Jokers, but but but... JP was so real, was so frighteningly real.. Ledger's Joker is the ultimate comic book/cinematic representation... JP is so real, so human.. (please don't hate me for saying this, I'll watch Dark Knight again _/\_ )

And, the level of irony in "that's life" ..wah I loved it his imitation of it :*

True. This movie is for psychological analysis,…… a dissection of a frog,…….a great material for psychologists and psychiatrists,.. and it seems you ‘ve dissected it all,… The more you do deep analysis of every line, scene, events n’ happenings,..a whole new meaning and message is coming out of it,…more you do find new hidden sense, a message to the society,.. and pain, agony of present mechanical life, that this society is under-going,….…and somewhere ther’s a salt-solution dipped Hunter’s whips also, merciless-ly been slapped on da society !

It has got same flavor and style of all old Charli’e movies, and also more or less same message of RK’s MNJ. Raj kapoor also had the great deep meaning in his Mera Nam joker, Life a Circus and we all Joker have to do our stage parts,…the roles which are being offered,…. Curtain Does fall one day sooner or later,… But on a drama stage, no role is bigger or smaller,.. it’s all about how faithfully you play it with full vigor, sincerity and faith,…… “ Bade ko bhi chhote ko bhi, duble ko bhi, Mote bhi,.. neeche se upar ko aana -jaana parta hai,… “ ! Boy- what were the lines in each of the songs!

So ? “ Don’t take the Life so seriously, since,.. so far, No one has get out of it, Alive ! “ a different message to the society,… which ungrown society walked over it, took their newly born kids to the theater,…by simply saying,… It’s a Kiddi-kid movie and Circus, Lion, elephants, Ring-master, Ghoda, Haathi and of course a Joker ! ….. are shown for the li’l ones,.. Lol !

Poor RK,…. Failed and fall flat,….and naturally postponed da idea of part-2, after hammering the public with 4 long hours hectic head-ache, with 2 intervals, first time in the Indian cinema history ever !

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