I will decide where kairav stays(and you)

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Posted: 6 years ago
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I loved that

Kartik is honestly the smartest guy in the world

He knows exactly how to get what he wants

and i love watching it🤣

He also doesnt look like a dumb ass by fumbling around

He was straight forward

I know how important you are to kairav hence he can stay with u

(but beneath all that was But u will never leave me you bore my son and now u will be tied to me for life divorce me 70 billion times or cry about vedika I dont care U will never leave me again ever)

And with this court order it will force naira with him for eternity

She cant runaway from being a mother and she cant run away from him without leaving kairav

I told you on a male pride level Kartik must be so happy

Naira's dumb decisions wont separate them any more

because of kairav

LOL

as for naira still not thinking about kartik and his place in kairavs life...

its so dumb naksh shes not right

Bhabi ma devyani shes not right

If vedika wants to be settled in her married life she needs to speak to kartik

Vedika has no married life with kartik very soon she will realize kartik has no intention of fulfilling his zimidari LOL

his only zimidari is doing whatever makes him happy and i love him for being that human

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: AnyaRSingh

I loved that

Kartik is honestly the smartest guy in the world

He knows exactly how to get what he wants

and i love watching it🤣

He also doesnt look like a dumb ass by fumbling around

He was straight forward

I know how important you are to kairav hence he can stay with u

(but beneath all that was But u will never leave me you bore my son and now u will be tied to me for life divorce me 70 billion times or cry about vedika I dont care U will never leave me again ever)

And with this court order it will force naira with him for eternity

She cant runaway from being a mother and she cant run away from him without leaving kairav

I told you on a male pride level Kartik must be so happy

Naira's dumb decisions wont separate them any more

because of kairav

LOL

as for naira still not thinking about kartik and his place in kairavs life...

its so dumb naksh shes not right

Bhabi ma devyani shes not right

If vedika wants to be settled in her married life she needs to speak to kartik

Vedika has no married life with kartik very soon she will realize kartik has no intention of fulfilling his zimidari LOL

his only zimidari is doing whatever makes him happy and i love him for being that human

Though with teary eyes, Kartik makes smart choices. I wish Naira could listen to him when he says don’t take Vedika’s theka. No matter what he says, all he wants is Naira. He would do anything to keep her around.

His concern for Naira would appear cute if Vedika was not in the picture. It appears that he wants both the wives, which makes the situation disgusting. Now after knowing the legality of his marriages, why isn’t he letting Vedika go?

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: aasmanviewer

Though with teary eyes, Kartik makes smart choices. I wish Naira could listen to him when he says don’t take Vedika’s theka. No matter what he says, deep inside he wants Naira. He would do anything to keep her around.

His concern for Naira would appear cute if Vedika was not in the picture. It appears that he wants both the wives, which makes the situation disgusting. Now after knowing the legality of his marriages, why isn’t he letting Vedika go?


Honestly I stopped caring about vedika's feelings the minute today she said that naira would never do that to her as in tell kartik she sent the divorce papers...That for me villainized her

She can pretend shes innocent all she wants but shes just as bad as naira separating a father and son for her own needs

Kartik wont let vedika go because he needs to torture naira🤣and i honestly dont mind with her thinking more about vedika than the child she deserves some punishment after pretending to be dead for five years

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Lol. You are pro Kartik; I am on the fence.

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Originally posted by: aasmanviewer

Lol. You are pro Kartik; I am on the fence.


For this track i am pro kartik🤣he is the only one with a brain around there to me

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Posted: 6 years ago
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I love this Kartik. The Kartik that doesn't give a damn about anyone else but what he wants. Don't mean it in a negative sense because this is what makes him human unlike a certain character who isn't even bothered about her child's future for the sake of an outsider.

I seriously don't see how Kartik is wrong right now. He doesn't trust Naira to stay in Udaipur because of her history and he's making sure he's not blindsided again. Naira is proving him correct by repeatedly suggesting she would move out. Her family is stupid to even support her in this decision.

What happens in Kartik's and Vedika's married life is none of her business. It's so annoying that she chose to stay away for 5 years and now without knowing anything about Kartik and Vedika's relationship, she won't stop meddling. If she has willingly sacrificed her rights as Kartik's wife to Vedika, she should respect her own decision and stop trying to control Kartik's life under the pretense of doing it for his happiness.

Where was her concern for his happiness and well-being when she chose to put him through hell for 5 years by pretending to be dead and keeping his son away from him. Where was the selfless love then?

She's appearing more and more dumb and immature with each passing episode. At least Kartik seems to have sanity left because he's not trying to snatch her rights as mother. I wish Naira comes out of her superiority complex where she thinks she's the only one making the right decision. Unfortunately, she's surrounded by people like her brother and Liza who applaud her for the smallest of things rather than making her realise where she's going wrong.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: Fari_15

I love this Kartik. The Kartik that doesn't give a damn about anyone else but what he wants. Don't mean it in a negative sense because this is what makes him human unlike a certain character who isn't even bothered about her child's future for the sake of an outsider.

I seriously don't see how Kartik is wrong right now. He doesn't trust Naira to stay in Udaipur because of her history and he's making sure he's not blindsided again. Naira is proving him correct by repeatedly suggesting she would move out. Her family is stupid to even support her in this decision.

What happens in Kartik's and Vedika's married life is none of her business. It's so annoying that she chose to stay away for 5 years and now without knowing anything about Kartik and Vedika's relationship, she won't stop meddling. If she has willingly sacrificed her rights as Kartik's wife to Vedika, she should respect her own decision and stop trying to control Kartik's life under the pretense of doing it for his happiness.

Where was her concern for his happiness and well-being when she chose to put him through hell for 5 years by pretending to be dead and keeping his son away from him. Where was the selfless love then?

She's appearing more and more dumb and immature with each passing episode. At least Kartik seems to have sanity left because he's not trying to snatch her rights as mother. I wish Naira comes out of her superiority complex where she thinks she's the only one making the right decision. Unfortunately, she's surrounded by people like her brother and Liza who applaud her for the smallest of things rather than making her realise where she's going wrong.

I think this is being extremely harsh to Naira.

For a moment, let's look at things from her point of view - she was questioned by the love of her life whether she was having an extramarital affair with her boss. Later, she goes through an accident only to come back to her funeral and her husband still not willing to listen (at least, from her POV). After going through this traumatic experience, she decides to go away so that her child's paternity is not questioned. Sure, this is a foolish step but it's not really anything mean/vengeful as the Goenkas frame it to be.

Also, about Kartik, sure he has missed the first five years of his child's life, but he didn't even know that he was missing out. So, that makes it way less painful for him as compared to Naira who has been through hell being away from her entire family, being a single mom and still managing to raise her kid just fine, all the while knowing that her husband, who she loved so much, would think so lowly of her that he wouldn't even forgive a dead person.

Regarding Naira's meddling in Kartik-Vedika's marital life, I think she's just a human being - it's very easy to be all logical and say that she shouldn't be meddling but at the end of the day, she is being painted as the other woman and I think no woman wants to go through that. And under the circumstance, what she did might not be logical but definitely understandable. Also, let's keep in mind that since Kairav's birth, Naira has been the one taking all the decisions related to him, so it might not be that easy for her to suddenly start taking into consideration others' (even Kartik's) opinions when taking decisions. Again, what she did wasn't right (as Manish/Kartik rightly pointed out and she later accepted) but I feel that this is an understandable mistake, one for which the punishment needn't be so harsh as to have her child taken away.

Now, coming to Kartik - I find my sympathies for him being stretched him. First of all, he needs to accept that he married Vedika out of his own will - no one forced him to. Sure, there was a component of emotional blackmail but the ultimate decision was his. Now, when his first wife has got back and he is unable to not be in love with her again (with all the dreams and moony eyes), he needs to do right by both - make a choice and let the other one go. For a person who had spent the majority of his adult life being angry with his father for remarrying, he sure as hell isn't being a model human being himself - having two wives, then forgetting that he has responsibilities, and just conveniently choosing to take the easy way out. Yes, I understand that he missed his child and Kairav is the first thing on his mind, but he also needs to look beyond himself and see how his actions are affecting others. He needs to move beyond his self-absorption pronto. And this custody thing is even worse. He says he doesn't want to separate Naira from her child, but that's exactly what he is doing - by filing for solo custody (and not joint) and trying to take away all her rights from her. If what Naira did was so wrong, then how is Kartik not wrong now by wanting to have solo decision-making power?

I feel like, compared to Naira, Kartik had it way easier - he had the luxury of moping around when he was sad, he had a rock solid family supporting him, he even had his in-laws support, plus he got a brand new wife - all of which Naira never had for the last five years. The worst part is no one even acknowledges her struggles and just conveniently blames her as and when applicable. Sure, she made her mistakes but so did everyone else. Why is it that only she is always the one being reminded of her mistakes and being constantly punished while others get to roam around scot-free? The point of having a family is that they are understanding towards you, and in that regard, the Singhanias, Goenkas, and even Kartik have failed her! I so wish the sherni Naira comes back and/or even some of the old cast (here's looking at you, Rajshri Nani)!

Anyway, long rant over! I do love both Naira and Kartik and I hope the makers work on both their character arcs instead of brushing all these issues under the carpet and rushing them into a marriage again! :)

Edited by kashev - 6 years ago
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Keshav makes some strong points for Naira's case.
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Originally posted by: kashev

I think this is being extremely harsh to Naira.

For a moment, let's look at things from her point of view - she was questioned by the love of her life whether she was having an extramarital affair with her boss. Later, she goes through an accident only to come back to her funeral and her husband still not willing to listen (at least, from her POV). After going through this traumatic experience, she decides to go away so that her child's paternity is not questioned. Sure, this is a foolish step but it's not really anything mean/vengeful as the Goenkas frame it to be.

Also, about Kartik, sure he has missed the first five years of his child's life, but he didn't even know that he was missing out. So, that makes it way less painful for him as compared to Naira who has been through hell being away from her entire family, being a single mom and still managing to raise her kid just fine, all the while knowing that her husband, who she loved so much, would think so lowly of her that he wouldn't even forgive a dead person.

I understand where you are coming from but do you really think that just because he didn’t know about his son’s existence, his pain is less than Naira’s? That’s incredulous imo. If anything, at least Naira had that time with their son unlike Kartik who didn’t even get to hold his baby, watch him grow, experience his first words, first time he walked, etc. Despite that, even now, all he wants is for his son to stay in the same city so that he can visit him whenever he wants to.
Also, being a single mom is tough and I get that, however, Naira chose that path for herself when she decided to run away from everyone, not just Kartik. No matter how much I try to rationalise her decision, I can’t. I am sorry if I don’t sympathise with her for being completely by herself, working tough hours while bringing up the baby, etc, because it was her decision. I am not saying she should have gone back to Kartik. He didn’t deserve her forgiveness but choosing to hide from her only family, is entirely on her. I am sure Singhania’s would have supported her if she had gone to them instead of pretending to be dead.

Regarding Naira's meddling in Kartik-Vedika's marital life, I think she's just a human being - it's very easy to be all logical and say that she shouldn't be meddling but at the end of the day, she is being painted as the other woman and I think no woman wants to go through that. And under the circumstance, what she did might not be logical but definitely understandable. Also, let's keep in mind that since Kairav's birth, Naira has been the one taking all the decisions related to him, so it might not be that easy for her to suddenly start taking into consideration others' (even Kartik's) opinions when taking decisions. Again, what she did wasn't right (as Manish/Kartik rightly pointed out and she later accepted) but I feel that this is an understandable mistake, one for which the punishment needn't be so harsh as to have her child taken away.

We can always agree to disagree here. If you can justify Naira interfering in Kartik’s life while making it clear to him that when she walked out 5 years ago, she had broken all ties with him, as her being human, than the same applies to Kartik as well. And I get that Naira has taken decisions for Kairav all these years but what bothers me is that she hasn’t even tried to include Kartik ever since the truth was revealed. She still feels she has full rights over Kairav which is wrong imo.
As for the highlighted part, she is not being punished for anything because Kartik has made it
clear he won’t separate Kairav from her. He wants his legal rights and I don’t see how that is wrong. Don’t you think it’s a bit selfish of Naira to assume that Kartik should have no rights over Kairav whatsoever? He should just go along with whatever she decides because she’s the mother?
Asking for legal rights is him ensuring his future with his kid. What did Naira expect would happen after she told Kartik she was moving to Goa? He would happily allow for it to happen without challenging her decision?

Now, coming to Kartik - I find my sympathies for him being stretched him. First of all, he needs to accept that he married Vedika out of his own will - no one forced him to. Sure, there was a component of emotional blackmail but the ultimate decision was his. Now, when his first wife has got back and he is unable to not be in love with her again (with all the dreams and moony eyes), he needs to do right by both - make a choice and let the other one go. For a person who had spent the majority of his adult life being angry with his father for remarrying, he sure as hell isn't being a model human being himself - having two wives, then forgetting that he has responsibilities, and just conveniently choosing to take the easy way out. Yes, I understand that he missed his child and Kairav is the first thing on his mind, but he also needs to look beyond himself and see how his actions are affecting others. He needs to move beyond his self-absorption pronto. And this custody thing is even worse. He says he doesn't want to separate Naira from her child, but that's exactly what he is doing - by filing for solo custody (and not joint) and trying to take away all her rights from her. If what Naira did was so wrong, then how is Kartik not wrong now by wanting to have solo decision-making power?

Agree with most of what you said here regarding Kartik taking a decision about his marriage with Vedika. I am waiting for that to happen but beg to differ on the custody part because I don’t see it as him trying to separate Kairav and Naira. He’s fighting for his rights and I am alright with that. Only thing he’s gonna control by having the custody is Naira not moving to another city with Kairav. I don’t blame his for his lack of trust in Naira regarding Kairav. As i said in my previous comment, despite him opening up to Naira and now threatening her with a legal battle, she’s still adamant to move to Goa, so how can anyone trust her to stay put in the future?

I feel like, compared to Naira, Kartik had it way easier - he had the luxury of moping around when he was sad, he had a rock solid family supporting him, he even had his in-laws support, plus he got a brand new wife - all of which Naira never had for the last five years. The worst part is no one even acknowledges her struggles and just conveniently blames her as and when applicable. Sure, she made her mistakes but so did everyone else. Why is it that only she is always the one being reminded of her mistakes and being constantly punished while others get to roam around scot-free? The point of having a family is that they are understanding towards you, and in that regard, the Singhanias, Goenkas, and even Kartik have failed her! I so wish the sherni Naira comes back and/or even some of the old cast (here's looking at you, Rajshri Nani)!

I don’t see how thinking his wife died makes life easier for Kartik. Naira endured hardships, which again, was due to her poor decision making, but at least she knew Kartik was alive and okay. She even used to call the family members from time to time and got to hear their voices, Kartik didn’t have that liberty. I am sorry but I don’t think that because you are surrounded by your loved ones, your suffering gets any less and that is what was shown in Kartik’s case during the first month of the leap. We can argue that Naira had Kairav, a part of Kartik, a symbol of their relationship, but Kartik didn’t even have that. I guess it’s better to not compare their sufferings because pain can’t be quantified.

Neither has it easier than the other, but as the original post suggested, Kartik just comes across as more human which is why it’s easier for me to sympathise with him more compared to Naira.

I am not completely against her but ngl, I haven’t supported her or sympathised with her post-leap except for the 2 weeks when she got slapped by BM and was then treated like a nobody in GV. Last week I was completely alright with Naira’s decision of moving to SS, this week I can’t understand her at all.

Tbh, it’s been 5 months and most of us have been going back and forth with the who’s right and who’s wrong argument. Everyone has their opinions and when we watch the episodes, we are a bit biased towards one of the characters and tend to watch the track from their POV. I am Just tired of having this discussion and can’t wait for the track to wrap up, so that we can move on from this discussion.
I desperately want the happy and loving Kaira back. Right now I see kairav’s parents but not Kaira who craved for each other. The wait is killing me.

Also, just to end this, I have nothing against Naira. I like Kaira equally, prefer one over the other depending on the storyline. Let’s see maybe next week I will be on Team Naira because I heard there’s a performance of Kartik and Vedika coming up 🤣. Also we never know what’s gonna happen in the custody hearings. If Kartik allows for Naira to be humiliated, I will be the first one to call him out.


Anyway, long rant over! I do love both Naira and Kartik and I hope the makers work on both their character arcs instead of brushing all these issues under the carpet and rushing them into a marriage again! :)

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Posted: 6 years ago
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I saw the last 2 episodes and I was very impressed..


Agree with you completely dear..


I know die hard fans are disappointed with the track and characters ..I however dont want to take sides and enjoy the track..this is the best one from the makers...at least it's logical compared to all the trash floating around .


Loved kartik and naira totally..and manish's outburst too.. all logical questions asked...why does naira always take decisions single handedly ..what is this batana chahti thi par nahi bataya..she has all the excuses for herself but doesn't try to look at things from kartiks perspective ....


Kartik was ammmazing n that scene ..he won't let kairav go ..his focus is not naira right now although we know where he it going lol


So this is one situation where its difficult to decide whats the right thing to do and that's the beauty of it ..therr is a pro and against argument for kartik nd naira both .


I am sure towards the end of the custody battle both will realize its traumatizing for the child ..n vedika will become the sacrificing queen and leave kartik ,as such she is not the legal wife...

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