कसौटी ज़िन्दगी के ২ LIVE Updates/Episode Discussions 19 Sep 2019 - Page 12

Originally posted by: Manasi_16

I seem to have missed this one...would you have a link to it?

It was just a random post. I had compared both Anurag and Rishabh through Fire and Ice-a poetry by Robert Frost. Can't seem to find the link but I will share the poetry here:

Some say the world will end in fire,

Some say in ice.

From what I’ve tasted of desire

I hold with those who favor fire.

But if it had to perish twice,

I think I know enough of hate

To say that for destruction ice

Is also great

And would suffice.

Robert Frost

Time has come Prerna to take her revenge what Mr Bajaj has done in both Anurag's and her life.

Even though Mr Bajaj has started to attract with Prerna's niceness, behave as so good to Prerna, how she forgets easily and too early whatever Mr Bajaj has done to ruin their love life. Anurag was her world. She could be able to do anything, sacrifice, abandons her life for shake of Anurag. That is how Prerna loves Anurag and Anurag's too. They was unable to live apart without talking, seeing each other even one second.

She was uncomfortable to live in Bajaj's mansion with strange, unknown, heartless people like Mr Bajaj. Her scary, uncertain thoughts about her future came out in-front of Shivani at the hospital after Anurag's accident on the day of her marriage.

After marriage with Mr Bajaj, Prerna didn't say any words against Mr Bajaj's decision of staying at Basu mansion. Because, she feels secure in that Basu house as it is comfortable and familiar environment to her, people are well known and her Anurag is there in her eyesight. He security is assured under the Anurag's roof and his eyesight. That is what any women expects from their husband and fiance, the love and security. Therefore, she adopts easily being part of Mr Bajaj's family and shows her niceness to people around her at the Basu mension.

However, same situation today, Prerna used to accuse Mr Bajaj saying taht he brought Prerna into Basu bari after the marriage to torture Anurag emotionally. Qualities of women came out again. Women take advantages of same situation as positive in their comfort zone, in other hand they use same incident to attack men showing its negative side. The way of women.

Originally posted by: manzilmukul

“Have you ever been in love? Horrible, isn't it? It makes you so vulnerable. It opens your chest and it opens up your heart and it means that someone can get inside you and mess you up. You build up all these defenses. You build up this whole armor, for years, so nothing can hurt you, then one stupid person, no different from any other stupid person, wanders into your stupid life… You give them a piece of you. They don't ask for it. They do something dumb one day like kiss you, or smile at you, and then your life isn't your own anymore. Love takes hostages. It gets inside you. It eats you out and leaves you crying in the darkness, so a simple phrase like "maybe we should just be friends" or "how very perceptive" turns into a glass splinter working its way into your heart. It hurts. Not just in the imagination. Not just in the mind. It's a soul-hurt, a body-hurt, a real gets-inside-you-and-rips-you-apart pain. Nothing should be able to do that. Especially not love. I hate love.”

-Neil Gaiman

That's what he is to me. He hasn't been a disappointment but a REVELATION. Who would know the Intense angsty businessman who WRONGED the woman could have such emotions? Sometimes, we are different to different people.

There are strong hints of the WRONGED HALF BROTHER and human psychology is crazy. You end up being envious to even the slightest chance of happiness.

The man who has it all but still CRAVES for Love-Anurag and The man who snatches it all, still craves for Love.

This season, it had to be Love Vs, Love.

A Negative character is CAPABLE Of Love too. He WRONGED and He SUFFERS too. His Journey has BARELY STARTED.

This...this quote i have read somewhere..may be madhubala forum.. because this is so rk like..😆rk was that one deep layered anti hero in true sense , of course he also changed later on but thars irrelevant .

N about bajaj, a man falling in love with a woman is not a revelation to me ,it's simple biology..him not falling in love would have been a revelation may be.. I dont have a problem with him being selfish or thst blackmail deal whatever...my grudge against him is his hypocrisy and sudden u turn from that selfishness and authoritative attitude.. .he is doing the opposite of whatever he has preached when he tried to show himself as someone different ..I was impressed with his attitude but not now..he is finished for me......the moment he has stepped in bb, all he is trying to do is outshine anurag..it's hilarious ..anurag is a one dimensional character, nothing Intriguing about him either but he has a heart ..why does he have to do it ? Does he consider himself so inferior to him ? Lol

Originally posted by: euphoric

This track is super funny. Sab apne apne hisab pe chal rahe hain.

Police bhaisaab... Bhaiya i understand basus, sharmas and bajajs r handful even individually but deemag bech ke aaye ho kya? This guy is accepting tht he did the accident. And accidents ARE unintentional! If u only decide whether to arrest or not, criminal charges r true or not, someone shud be facing a trial or not... Toh yaar why is my tax money being wasted by the government to pay salaries to those judges!😳

Prerna madame... I dont trust u... Sorry... jara sa bhi nahi... Tomm u ll dream abt the car provoking mr bajaj to run over anurag and i can actually imagine u giving ur cold stares and baseless sermons to the gaadi.

Mr Bajaj, i was not expecting u to get into pre's orbit zone so soon. But chalo ho gaya... But etiquettes expect u to apologize the ones who r hurt coz of u. Handing over urself to police over the sulk tht oh someone wants me in jail... This bechara attitude neither suits u nor its meant for u... Doesnt work. My sympathies r nt with u. Sorry appeal rejected!

Anurag... I hold it against u to nt slip in comma or get a ML! Why do u hv to explain it to pre tht bajaj was trying to murder u? He was or he was nt... She is nt the head of judicial system and Thank God for tht!

@ Bold : And that is the inconsistency i can make no head or tail of. Arre yaar it was confessed that the car was sped in anger that ended up knocking AB out... Toh anger mein speed badhe ke kisi ko gadi se jaan bujh ke thok dena, how can it be unintentional? A horrid deed done out of anger--how is it unintentional? Arre, the law even punish the crime done out of self-defense, toh yeh jaan buhj ke kiya gaya accident mein Bajaj jail gaya to itni haaye tauba kyun?

Coming to the remaining part of your post, I can fully, totally envisage Pre giving that sermon to gaddi... 🤣Rest I agree too...

And let me copy paste what I have written in another thread...

This is KZK for you...

They have police who don't know anything about law and order.

They have doctors who do not know anything about medicine and surgery.

They have lawyers and judges who don't know anything about Indian Jurisprudence and legal system.

They have businessmen who do not know anything about handling corporations or making business strategies.

Sab ki degrees farzi hai yahan pe..

Originally posted by: manzilmukul

I will not go into what happened, why is it happening or comment on who is right or wrong but today’s episode was a sheer delight!

The One thing that stood out for me will be -“What If.... And I wish’. If wishes were always granted, no one would be unhappy. Wanting, desiring and getting-these are three things which drives every person but do we always get what we desire, perhaps not?

I wish I had met you before everyone else! I wish we had met in different circumstances and I want you to know Rishabh.

Something big has to happen to bring in the much awaited momentum.

I loved RB today. His smirk is back and his aura before he walks out.

Anurag: He has everything, everyone and the world with him-Anurag and then you have the loneliest man in the world because love isn’t at his side for now.

Rishabh: He has materials, he has possessions but still he is the loneliest man on earth.

Where does the want end? Where does the loneliness got both the men end? Time will tell.

Today, the show was about -What if?

Oh, btw, currently Hazaron mumkinaat k beech, RB ponders what if they had met differently!

Fabulous writing today....

Rishabh reminds me of this song

Mumkin hai chashm-e-numm teri, tera guror ho,

It is possible that your moist eyes, is your arrogance,

Mumkin hai ke yeh aag, paani se dur ho,

It is possible that this fire, can be extinguished by water,

Mumkin hai sarayat kare zehar ragou mein,

It is possible that poison spreads into the veins,

Mumkin hai is zehar ka asar dur dur ho,

It is possible that this poison's effect is far, far (widespread),

Mumkin hai mumkin na ho yun mera palat na,

It is possible that it may not be possible for me to turn back like this,

Mumkin hai esterab mein bhi kuch suroor ho,

It is possible that in (this) uneasiness too there is a bit of intoxication,

Mumkin hai aa bhi jao tum mere khayal mein,

It is possible that you come in my thoughts,

Mumkin hai dur dur raho, dur dur ho,

It is possible that you stay far far (away), you are far far (away),

Mumkin hai nazar bhar ke tumhe dekh lein,

It is possible that I (may) get my eyeful (/my fill) of looking at you,

Mumkin hai ek nazar mein kabhi ishq dur ho,

It is possible that with one look, sometimes, love goes away,

Mumkin hai mera veham ho, mera khayal ho,

It is possible that it is my delusion, or (just) my thought,

Mumkin hai mere haal mein bhi tera kasoor ho,

It is possible that my state also has your fault in it,

Mumkin hai tujhe chah ke bhi, chah na sakoon,

It is possible that despite of loving you, I cannot (may not?) love you,

Mumkin hai tere paas bhi aa na sakoon,

It is possible that I cannot come close to you,

Mumkin hai yeh fareb ho, teri adavat,

It is possible that it is a deception, your bitterness

Mumkin hai tujhe keh ke bhi mile na sukoon,

It is possible that even after telling you, (I) don't get peace,

Mumkin hai mujhe pe reham ho ya mujhse saval ho,

It is possible that I am shown mercy or that I am questioned,

Mumkin tai mère saval par woh lajavab ho,

It is possible that at my question, he is (left) with no answer

https://youtu.be/3fAyGc1w-Ls

OKK. Bajju suddenly turning sentimental (was he about to confess 😲), Anu suddenly fit as a fiddle (and doing his bak bak), Mohini giving a headache to everyone, police... (well, what was that really).

In all this, I am FINALLY happy to hear Pre!! 😭😭 Rarely do we get to see her venting out or even monologuing. These couple of episodes she's had more say than what she's had in probably 2 months! And frankly speaking, why is Mr. B being a cry baby in front of her? The atrocities he has done on her in the recent past can't be just washed away in a couple of conversations (although the writers tried really hard at that, but nobody bought it 😆). On top of that an accident at his hands for which he should at least be booked. How are CVs repeatedly justifying saying that gusse mein speed badh gaya.Koi toh acha logical excuse de dete B ko, like it was raining really hard, visibility was bad, I couldn't see anything. Nahi, Anu ko dekhke gussa aa gaya. What will anyone think of this🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

I LOVED it when she laid out the truth of their relationship and living situation in front of delusional Bajaj. Erica finally got some fiery scenes and she pulled it off fabulously! And that too in front of a "larger than life" character.

Instead of showing an apologetic B, if they stayed true to his character, he would have faced this situation (and also the accident) with a different attitude. And their scenes would have had more tashan. But no, hamare iNtteLLiGaanT CVs wanted a softy Bajaj falling head over heels for a woman he got in a deal. (Bleaarggh!!)

Chalo, CVs to Prerna be like, "Iss mahine ka itna hi quota hai tumhara. No more dialogues or monologues. From tomorrow back to swinging, mute sufferer and crying buckets".😆 But before that, today Pre be like

The inspector takes the cake today🤣 I felt he was just about to cry 🤣 just giving his opinion that accident was not intentional. So many times the word intentional and unintentional was said 😆

Mohini dhasoo dialogue 🤣except you bajaj is.not important for anyone 🤣moh I love you.

Anurag shutting up masi🤣and masi's melodrama ..all the while she was relaxed ekdum se when police arrested bajaj she went like "nahiiiiiii"🤣 aisa nahi ho sakta..

And theb..with utmost dukhi mann the policemen had to arrest bajaj...feels aise aa rahe the Jaise aadarniya pm ko arrest kiya jaa raha hai. Mr bajaj's arrest me was. 🤣

Originally posted by: manzilmukul

“Have you ever been in love? Horrible, isn't it? It makes you so vulnerable. It opens your chest and it opens up your heart and it means that someone can get inside you and mess you up. You build up all these defenses. You build up this whole armor, for years, so nothing can hurt you, then one stupid person, no different from any other stupid person, wanders into your stupid life… You give them a piece of you. They don't ask for it. They do something dumb one day like kiss you, or smile at you, and then your life isn't your own anymore. Love takes hostages. It gets inside you. It eats you out and leaves you crying in the darkness, so a simple phrase like "maybe we should just be friends" or "how very perceptive" turns into a glass splinter working its way into your heart. It hurts. Not just in the imagination. Not just in the mind. It's a soul-hurt, a body-hurt, a real gets-inside-you-and-rips-you-apart pain. Nothing should be able to do that. Especially not love. I hate love.”

-Neil Gaiman

That's what he is to me. He hasn't been a disappointment but a REVELATION. Who would know the Intense angsty businessman who WRONGED the woman could have such emotions? Sometimes, we are different to different people.

There are strong hints of the WRONGED HALF BROTHER and human psychology is crazy. You end up being envious to even the slightest chance of happiness.

The man who has it all but still CRAVES for Love-Anurag and The man who snatches it all, still craves for Love.

This season, it had to be Love Vs, Love.

A Negative character is CAPABLE Of Love too. He WRONGED and He SUFFERS too. His Journey has BARELY STARTED.

I am totally in agreement ..love does exactly this to a person who gets affected without his/her consent ... first hand experience and let me tell you the description is 100% perfect 💞💗💕

Originally posted by: _charu_

This...this quote i have read somewhere..may be madhubala forum.. because this is so rk like..😆rk was that one deep layered anti hero in true sense , of course he also changed later on but thars irrelevant .

Neil Gaiman’s quote is the most popular one quoted for an angst in love. You might have read it for RK 😆

I hated RK and still do but then he did CHANGE. 🤣 That’s what is CONSISTENT in ITV. Faulty heroes and women bringing changes 😵

N about bajaj, a man falling in love with a woman is not a revelation to me ,it's simple biology.

Everything is BIOLOGICAL then, Hun, by that logic. When eyes meet, it’s basic chemistry, dopamine release etc etc. Well, love stories sell, or else Bajaj Kya karega Story mein 😛 competition makes it spicier, isn’t it?

.him not falling in love would have been a revelation may be.. I dont have a problem with him being selfish or thst blackmail deal whatever...my grudge against him is his hypocrisy and sudden u turn from that selfishness and authoritative attitude.. .he is doing the opposite of whatever he has preached when he tried to show himself as someone different ..I was impressed with his attitude but not now..he is finished for me......the moment he has stepped in bb, all he is trying to do is outshine anurag..it's hilarious ..anurag is a one dimensional character, nothing Intriguing about him either but he has a heart ..why does he have to do it ? Does he consider himself so inferior to him ? Lol

@bold That’s how characters are introduced, isn’t it? We feel that he is trying to outshine Anurag because we read OPINIONS and the story writers place the characters in CONTRAST to each other. Why do we see a SPARK between BajRag? Because that’s what the writers intend to do, place them in a space of CONTRAST and CONTROVERSY. This creates a space in the viewers mind too. A feeling of ENCROACHMENT of space of Anurag. It’s NOTHING like that.

The contrasts are stark-

A boy with Emotions vs a Man who is Ruthless

A boy with a Golden Heart Vs a Man who has a Tarnished Image

A boy who is the apple of everyone’s eyes Vs a man who is hated by everyone.

A boy who lost his love vs a man who snatched.

A boy who is left to yearning and Alas a man who does nothing but yearn in secrecy.

It’s us who think that the contrasts are for whitewashing or outshining the other. It’s US. We BELIEVE that the character is trying to do. From day one only, Bajaj has been mouthing dialogues which are CONTRARY to Anurag.

Well, Hypocritical, yes, who isn’t then?

Prerna, Anurag, Rishabh Moloy etc etc. who isn’t HYPOCRITICAL in this world.

@Anurag being unidimensional I DISAGREE.

I think his nuances and complexities are top notch. He is SIMPLE, Good Samaritan and logical but hasn’t love transformed him into a a state of part LUNACY. Did we actually think a simple character could be driven to SUICIDE?

We always see what we WANT to and believe what we understand! That’s how psychology works.

Originally posted by: Sutapasima

I am totally in agreement ..love does exactly this to a person who gets affected without his/her consent ... first hand experience and let me tell you the description is 100% perfect 💞💗💕

Who would give a law to lovers? Love is unto itself a higher law.

Boethius, The Consolation of Philosophy