Daily Discussion 4 Krishna Chali London. - Page 104

Originally posted by: annx

I have been saying this for a week. The KrishVeer magic is gone. Vanished. And more than anything I blame the actors. It was their job to keep the magic alive no matter how bad the script. That shows your talent. To stand out even in a horrible script and this track was not even as bad. I mean look at Kulfi track and you'd realized what horrible track means and the actors are still giving their 110%.

Honestly, the last weeks is making me reconsider their talent. Are they the performers who act only when the script is good? They just lost all the interest because the show was ending. How unprofessional. Very disappointed!

I won't say the krishveer charm was totally gone for me.....but the last episode did dissapoint me...whether it be KV or Megha.The way Krishna hugged Veer.....it just looked as if a brother has gifted his sister a box of chocolate and in return a delighted sister is hugging her bro.

Aneeqa...it happens with many actors...they are not the only one. Whenever story turns beyond crap or is continuing for long or is nearing it's end....actors do loose interest and it gets visible on screen.The best example ...I can give is YHM.Though..I'm not defending anyone....but the fact is.....it happens.

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Originally posted by: Rainz

Hello friends!! 🤗

Hi....Renu....good still you peeped into the forum....otherwise it's dead now!!!🤗

I just returned from traveling and had a chance to catch up on the episodes and forum comments. Rather than replying to individual posts, I thought I’d just create one of my own, in the hopes that you all are still checking the forum.

How was your tour???Well...even if u have not watched the episodes....I don't think u would have missed out anything to drool about!!!😆

First, regarding the ending of the show, I echo what you all have said - it was a complete, utter disappointment. I blame both the writers and the actors for this. As a writer/creative director on a show, you have to understand what your audience appreciates. Anyone paying attention would know that interest in this show spiked when Veer entered and his relationship with Krishna developed. Then WHY would you spend the entire last month of your show focused on a new villain who was just introduced? And even if this was the track that you went with, wouldn’t you want to at least save the last few episodes to bid a proper farewell to the characters that your audience fell in love with? Krishna and Veer literally only had a few minutes together in the last episode, and they were the LEADS. And Krishna’s father and Bua were never even shown. Basically everybody forgave everybody in the span of 20 minutes. It was one of the worst endings of an ITV show I’ve ever seen, which is so incredibly sad, because until this last track, it was one of my favorite ITV shows ever.

Renu....exactly!!! I always attribute a series failure /success to the casts and Cvs.The story has to be strong enough to hold the interest of the viewers and the actors acting should be convincing enough to make viewers believe ,it to be real.For the past two and half months they have come up with horrible track of FR which has been tried upteenth time on ITV.After the leap Veer getting minimal screen space ...when the fact is that his entry made more viewers join the show.The makers completely ignored that fact.If we calculate properly.....the krishveer romance was actually shown for only a month.And romance with drama does boost up trps. Veer's entry and the animosity of krishveer ,Radhey's death took away two months.... and FR track with leap... two and half months and krishveer realisation,rushed shaadi track for 1or one and half month. That's what we got.Do u remember Megha's enthusiasm while shooting the romantic scenes in her interview???Even KV mentioned that he enjoyed shooting the romantic sequence.But the makers were totally on a different tangent!!!

Re: the acting, I agree with your comments as well. I don’t know what happened to Karan and Megha, but their chemistry was completely flat in their last scene together. Again, I’ve never seen it be this bad on any other ITV show. Most actors give it their best till the end. Hell, even Bela and Triloki’s final scene had more energy in it. Part of this I do blame on the script and the writing - Veer saying that he would now be Veer Sahay Civil Lines Kanpur felt silly and unrealistic. You don’t just become the son of another family, especially one that you’ve hated (and the feeling was mutual) for so many years. And Krishna’s line about how she’s jealous of herself was so cheesy. These characters have so much history and unresolved emotions between them, that the way their last scene was written fell completely flat. BUT the actors did not help. They could have at least made their last hug an emotional one, but it felt like a hug between two friends, not a hug between husband and wife. The hug that was shown a few days ago with the flashbacks was much better and I wish they had used that for KrishVeer’s final scene together instead.

That's the thing....Renu.Krishveer's life was destroyed for 5 years bcoz of the misunderstanding. But the makers didnot have any intention of sparing few minutes showing krishveer clearing that misunderstanding. .....instead they spent episodes after episode dragging this FR track!! If they could have shown one strong emotional scene about resolving the tangled matters in krishveeer's life then those talks wouldn't have looked cheesy or soulless !!! Krishveer in the last episode was a total let down for me!!!

With all that said, I will always carry fond memories of the show and will just watch my favorite tracks over again and pretend this last track didn’t happen. But most importantly, I am so grateful for this forum and all of you. You all gave me a place to discuss this show with fans who were just as passionate about KCL. I’ve loved every single one of our discussions - whether we agreed or disagreed, we always did so with respect, which is a rare thing to find on the Internet these days.

I may be dissappointed with the show at it's last phase but how can i forget that these same actors, KV and Megha gave me lots and lots of opportunity...... to feel heart break....to smile....to get awe...to gush...and to enter into gutterville.In short a lot of fond memories to take away......and how can I forget about the lovely members,I got to interact. ❤️

So thank you, dear friends, for making me feel so welcome in this forum and being amazing people. I’ll continue to visit the forum in the hopes that you’re all still here, but I know slowly we will likely stop posting here. Please do stay in touch via PMs, and I hope we cross paths on this forum or another! ❤️🤗

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Originally posted by: tranquilmelody

The story post leap in general and the last few episodes in particular were so listless, cringeworthy and fake that i wonder if it is the same KCL we all just loved after Veer's entry. As Anee has been lamenting the leads have been very unprofessional and in my pov, more than KV it was MC who totally was out of the game.

Anyways I had a good time in this forum and thanks to each and everyone to have maintained a healthy, positive ambience here.

Dunno if I'll be watching any ITV soon, but will lookout for anything interesting coming up.

BTW which serial is replacing KCL @ 9 pm?

Ishani, my desk is all yours till I start watching ITV again 😃

Originally posted by: annx

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Aneeqa, I agree with everything that you said! The only part where I feel differently is my feelings regarding the show. To me, KCL will always stand out for showing a strong female lead who was not afraid to pursue her dreams, to stand up for femal equality, and to challenge old societal norms to do what is right. Yes, I fell in love with the KrishVeer romance and that’s what drew me in to the show, but I also enjoyed watching Krishna stand up to the Shuklas time and again for doing what was right.

Re: how KV and MC’s performances will be considered by other directors for future shows, I don’t know. I’m not sure if the director is more concerned with how they performed at their best, or if they’re watching the entire show for consistency in their performance. I will say that I felt that KV performed better than MC until the end. It was only in the very last episode that I felt KV’s acting fell a little flat (and honestly, who wouldn’t struggle delivering a line like “Veer Sahay Civil Lines Kanpur”?? 😕) But Megha seemed to check out much earlier. While KV’s screen space was limited post leap, Megha had much more, and maybe that’s why the decline in her performance was obvious. Or maybe there was some behind the scenes tension that was distracting her. Either way, I do hope they both get new projects soon so they can continue to grow as actors and develop their talents.

I’ll continue to check this forum too until people stop showing up! 🤗 And let’s definitely stay in touch via PMs!

Originally posted by: tranquilmelody

The story post leap in general and the last few episodes in particular were so listless, cringeworthy and fake that i wonder if it is the same KCL we all just loved after Veer's entry. As Anee has been lamenting the leads have been very unprofessional and in my pov, more than KV it was MC who totally was out of the game.

Anyways I had a good time in this forum and thanks to each and everyone to have maintained a healthy, positive ambience here.

Dunno if I'll be watching any ITV soon, but will lookout for anything interesting coming up.

BTW which serial is replacing KCL @ 9 pm?

Ishani, my desk is all yours till I start watching ITV again 😃

I agree with this part... I agree KV has been consistent mostly and I've always mentioned that. And that was disappointing because I've seen this girl act since almost the beginning. She's good. And in the end, the loss of interest and decline in performance was just plain disappointing.

I can suggest Patiala Babes if you're interested in a near reality show with not too much romance but more on the struggles of a woman and her child after divorce. Of course, the show has its part of the drama and maybe some illogic parts (although so far I haven't noticed any - also if there is any illogical part they're very very few).

Kahan Tum Kahan Hum is replacing KCL. Not sure if I want to start following that just yet!

Originally posted by: divine_16

Aneeqa....finally watched the final episode.I liked some parts of the episode.I loved Sunaina's acting .Her begging for forgiveness....her repentance looked genuine to me.I even liked the witty side of Shukla.... and rest all looked like they were in a hurry to pack up.

Well, I have been complaining mostly about the main leads. Hell, even Bela was good in the final episode! I enjoyed Shukla, though it felt cheesy to me.

I won't say the krishveer charm was totally gone for me.....but the last episode did dissapoint me...whether it be KV or Megha.The way Krishna hugged Veer.....it just looked as if a brother has gifted his sister a box of chocolate and in return a delighted sister is hugging her bro.

It was gone for me. Remember that eye-lock after the leap. Since then the charm was gone. There was no magic even in the eye lock.

Aneeqa...it happens with many actors...they are not the only one. Whenever story turns beyond crap or is continuing for long or is nearing it's end....actors do loose interest and it gets visible on screen.The best example ...I can give is YHM.Though..I'm not defending anyone....but the fact is.....it happens.

I don't know Ishani. I beg to differ here. I have not been following YHM so can't comment, but since its been running for so long the actors have proven their skills unlimited times. I hate the story but yes the actors are fantastic and very professional. That's the difference between a long-running show and a short limited finite show. The mistakes and performance standards of the ending of a long show can be ignored, but in the finite show, you already have so many episodes to prove your skills. I can give you many examples where even if the storyline had gone lame the performance was top notch till the very end. Although all shows by the end are just lame to name a few Naamkaran, IPKKND, suhani si ek ladki, ek hazaaron mein meri behna and many many more. These were the show where even a lame storyline kept you hooked till the very end because of their performances!

In my opinion, the only difference between an actor and a great actor is to not lose interest even if the story has gone lame and to give your 100% till the very end. That's professionalism. You simply can't blame it to anyone or anything else.

But then, for the last time, let's just agree to disagree. 🤔

Originally posted by: Rainz

Aneeqa, I agree with everything that you said! The only part where I feel differently is my feelings regarding the show. To me, KCL will always stand out for showing a strong female lead who was not afraid to pursue her dreams, to stand up for femal equality, and to challenge old societal norms to do what is right. Yes, I fell in love with the KrishVeer romance and that’s what drew me in to the show, but I also enjoyed watching Krishna stand up to the Shuklas time and again for doing what was right.

Re: how KV and MC’s performances will be considered by other directors for future shows, I don’t know. I’m not sure if the director is more concerned with how they performed at their best, or if they’re watching the entire show for consistency in their performance. I will say that I felt that KV performed better than MC until the end. It was only in the very last episode that I felt KV’s acting fell a little flat (and honestly, who wouldn’t struggle delivering a line like “Veer Sahay Civil Lines Kanpur”?? 😕) But Megha seemed to check out much earlier. While KV’s screen space was limited post leap, Megha had much more, and maybe that’s why the decline in her performance was obvious. Or maybe there was some behind the scenes tension that was distracting her. Either way, I do hope they both get new projects soon so they can continue to grow as actors and develop their talents.

I’ll continue to check this forum too until people stop showing up! 🤗 And let’s definitely stay in touch via PMs!

I agree, KV performed much much better than MC till the very end. He was still very consistent. She wasn't. But I am not going to buy any excuse such as any behind the scene distraction or anything else. That's not a professional approach. Especially in acting, you can't let distraction affect your performance. That's just not done.

Yes, I'll be here too and yes to PMs. Do we still have to complete our PM discussion or was it done?

Originally posted by: annx

I won't say the krishveer charm was totally gone for me.....but the last episode did dissapoint me...whether it be KV or Megha.The way Krishna hugged Veer.....it just looked as if a brother has gifted his sister a box of chocolate and in return a delighted sister is hugging her bro.

It was gone for me. Remember that eye-lock after the leap. Since then the charm was gone. There was no magic even in the eye lock.

I loved the part when Veer came to the OT and krishna asked what he was doing here and the eyelock...may be long one ....but loved it.I loved the Veer's filling maang of krishna and her concern towards him...I loved the Veer's breaking down ,lying on Krishna's lap...I liked them but the last hug and the scenes was a total goner for me!!! It was a huge dissappointment!!

Aneeqa...it happens with many actors...they are not the only one. Whenever story turns beyond crap or is continuing for long or is nearing it's end....actors do loose interest and it gets visible on screen.The best example ...I can give is YHM.Though..I'm not defending anyone....but the fact is.....it happens.

I don't know Ishani. I beg to differ here. I have not been following YHM so can't comment, but since its been running for so long the actors have proven their skills unlimited times. I hate the story but yes the actors are fantastic and very professional. That's the difference between a long-running show and a short limited finite show. The mistakes and performance standards of the ending of a long show can be ignored, but in the finite show, you already have so many episodes to prove your skills. I can give you many examples where even if the storyline had gone lame the performance was top notch till the very end. Although all shows by the end are just lame to name a few Naamkaran, IPKKND, suhani si ek ladki, ek hazaaron mein meri behna and many many more. These were the show where even a lame storyline kept you hooked till the very end because of their performances!

@Underlined parts- Aneeqa yup..the actors are fantastic. ...but there is zero professionalism from leads now for many months.Body doubles are used for several months...the acting prowess has gone down the drain long ago.Even BALH also had body doubles of both the leads when it was about to end. That's why I'm saying...such lack of professionalism occurs ....whether the show is finite or infinite.And I believe ..if an actor is in a show he/she has to be professional till the end ....a long running show can't be an excuse or the lack of professionalism can't be ignored for that.So...KCL is not the only one. May be u have only come across the shows which had committed leads but lack of professionalism does exist.And I really don't judge actors talent with just some ending episodes.Bcoz if I go by that rule of judging actors talent with some ending episodes or a long running show ....then I would have to say KP and DT are not talented actors,which absolutely without doubt, they are not. But that doesn't mean....I'm defending their lack of professionalism. I would rather judge their talent ...on the basis of the impact they had on me.I would have to say ...within just a short span of time ,krishveer was able to make a place in my heart.A scene to turn into magic is not only attributed to actors.....but it does involve a lot of things...picturisation...conceptualisation... direction...and lot more.Even films of great actors does flop don't they??? It definetly has to do with story and other things.So,I would simply not go on blaming the actors only but also team of writers and cvs.

In my opinion, the only difference between an actor and a great actor is to not lose interest even if the story has gone lame and to give your 100% till the very end. That's professionalism. You simply can't blame it to anyone or anything else.

But then, for the last time, let's just agree to disagree.

Yup....we are again not on the same page....apart from the fact that actors had to be professional till the end!!But it's absolutely my view point and how i perceive. ....bcoz I'm a human being...and I do faulter a lot and may have shown lack of professionalism at some point of time...and so may be ,that's why I turn out be little considerate on the actors sometimes!!

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Originally posted by: divine_16

I loved the part when Veer came to the OT and krishna asked what he was doing here and the eyelock...may be long one ....but loved it.I loved the Veer's filling maang of krishna and her concern towards him...I loved the Veer's breaking down ,lying on Krishna's lap...I liked them but the last hug and the scenes was a total goner for me!!! It was a huge dissappointment!!

Those scenes did not work for me. Glad those made you happy though! That's all I can say. I have said it once, I'll say it a million more times, KV was good and consistent but the magic was missing. The chemistry was gone. I don't know whose fault was it - KV, MC or they both just couldn't connect after the leap... I don't blame the writers for the magic. Magic is brought by actors, not writers.

@Underlined parts- Aneeqa yup..the actors are fantastic. ...but there is zero professionalism from leads now for many months.Body doubles are used for several months...the acting prowess has gone down the drain long ago.Even BALH also had body doubles of both the leads when it was about to end. That's why I'm saying...such lack of professionalism occurs ....whether the show is finite or infinite.And I believe ..if an actor is in a show he/she has to be professional till the end ....a long running show can't be an excuse or the lack of professionalism can't be ignored for that.So...KCL is not the only one. May be u have only come across the shows which had committed leads but lack of professionalism does exist.And I really don't judge actors talent with just some ending episodes.Bcoz if I go by that rule of judging actors talent with some ending episodes or a long running show ....then I would have to say KP and DT are not talented actors,which absolutely without doubt, they are not. But that doesn't mean....I'm defending their lack of professionalism. I would rather judge their talent ...on the basis of the impact they had on me.I would have to say ...within just a short span of time ,krishveer was able to make a place in my heart.A scene to turn into magic is not only attributed to actors.....but it does involve a lot of things...picturisation...conceptualisation... direction...and lot more.Even films of great actors does flop don't they??? It definetly has to do with story and other things.So,I would simply not go on blaming the actors only but also team of writers and cvs.

Yup....we are again not on the same page....apart from the fact that actors had to be professional till the end!!But it's absolutely my view point and how i perceive. ....bcoz I'm a human being...and I do faulter a lot and may have shown lack of professionalism at some point of time...and so may be ,that's why I turn out be little considerate on the actors sometimes!!

Okay, so one I am a human too. Everyone is.

Also, nowhere have I said that it was entirely actors fault. All I have been saying is that actors need to be professional and professionalism means to be top notch and give your best even if the script is bad. MC was not giving her 100%. KV was better but I believe he could've been better.

I am not judging their talent. I am no one to judge talent. I am a viewer only who was just not impressed enough in the end. So if I ever do end up watching one of their shows I know it will not be for the actors but for the story. I shall not be watching a show because KV or MC are in it. They disappointed me and broke my heart.

As I said, we all are humans and we all falter but most of us are also professionals and as a professional, you can NEVER allow your feelings or personal opinions come in the way of your work. Sometimes you know that a product is finishing and it's the last ever update and yet you give your 100%. You can't make mistakes and give a low-quality product only because the production is about to stop. Because that is YOUR JOB. The product may still end up being of low quality because of 100 other reasons but this not justify your not giving 100%.

Likewise, I am not saying that the story would've improved or other faults post leap is only KV and MC's fault. All I am saying is that it was pretty evident that they were not interested anymore and that was unprofessional.

As for body doubles and KP and DT - well I have not been watching the show but can't comment but I am still certain that whatever scene's they are doing are not falling flat at the very least. I have seen too many Ronit Roy shows and he's hardly ever working together with the leads. Mostly the scenes are with body doubles, and yet he is one amazing actor and I have never seen him falter. Look at Hina Khan. YRKKH was hers and hers alone and yet she was dropped as soon she became unprofessional!

Even with flop movies, have you ever seen SRK, HR, RK, RS, or any of the big actors or actress not giving their 100% to a movie. Pick any of Amir's flop movies, and you'll not find a fault with the acting but with the story and other things such as editing and stuff. Even in the movie, Mela, Amir gave his 100% and it showed. The movie flopped for a billion other reasons. The actor and actress who have faltered have not lasted in the industry.

Lastly, Ishani, I have grown up watching TV. Be it Pakistani or Indian. Watched way too many shows. Just because I am not naming them does not mean I don't know about them. I have seen stupid lame endings and I know a lot of actors too. The ones who have faltered are hardly seen anymore.

I am going to say this again, I am not defending the lack of story or any of the production mistakes. I am simply pointing out unprofessionalism and that too at a very early stage of their careers. They just started out. KP, Ronit Roy and DT have been in the industry for a long time. Now, their unprofessionalism at times can be ignored. AT TIMES.

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