The Last Straw: An Attempt At Retaliation Desensitized Lopamudra

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Bani said something to Lopa. It was personal.
Lopa talked about botox, lip injections, GC etc. It was personal.
Okay cool.
Both cancel each other out.

I would not have cared if Lopa retaliated with just 'botox' 'lip injections' 'her height' 'her mental state'.
Even though it seemed less like a retaliation more like an attack, after Lopa didn't stop repeating the aforementioned things, adding 'She uses it yaar';
"See this is what I am talking about";
"See she is using it again" referring to Bani's mother's situation.
Even during the task, Bani told Lopa time and again to stop and not bring that topic up.

Now it is obvious what Bani said may seem personal to some people, and not personal to some people. It is very subjective. We don't know the implications
But Bani got the taste of her medicine as stated by Lopa by those botox etc comments na.
So why was there a need to push that sympathy mother card statement so much even when she knows the implications?
We all know the implications. It is an objective statement. We know how bad cancer is, we know how much people suffer, we know how costly it is, we also know how many people cannot afford the treatment and die before they are given a chance at life.
Those people will be gone, and their family is left to suffer all their life.
So I would surely expect Lopa who represents India at the international level to become sensitized to such issues irrespective of how the person is to me.
She had the entire day to figure out how low she wants to stoop.

Now I'll assume for a second that she didn't attack her mom, it was an attack on Bani.
Lopa still made a mockery of Bani's suffering due to her mom's illness.
Cancer affects the entire family, considering I've never heard of Bani's dad, it seems they have been dealing with it together.
From my personal experience:
If someone in the family has cancer, everyone suffers, truly and deeply every day. Even if the person has been cancer free or in process of fighting cancer, you cry because that constant fear of "I'm going to lose you" never leaves.
It doesn't mean that the person is mentally weak.
But no one wants to be reminded of the situation time and again ESPECIALLY IF ONE'S BELOVED HAS BEEN HIT WITH IT THRICE because it pinches like hell.

Saying that someone uses the situation for sympathy, or anything else is not only a mockery of the person, and their mom, but a mockery of all the people suffering from cancer.
No one uses such a serious topic to lash out just for footage.
No one, I believe NO ONE is that evil.
It is a mockery of a serious illness which takes the lives of people. It truly is.

If Bani is using her mother's illness, does that mean so is Manu? Because I saw Manu crying in front of Rahul, then Manveer and then in the smoking room over his mother's death. No one had brought the topic up for him.
No. He is not. Both are not doing that.

People saying Bani is using her mother's illness is absurd. How many times in a day does she bring up her mother's illness with anyone in a conversation? Apart from Gaurav, who in the house knew of Bani's mother's illness before the Om incident?
I find the statement so illogical.

"Using" would be bringing it up in every conversation, crying "meri mom ko cancer hai, so I want to win this show for her" "mujhe sympathy de do pls HMs mujhe sympathy do".
If this is what she wanted I wonder why did she wait for Om to bring it up somehow.
Why didn't she bond with the HMs over this "So my mom had cancer three times, this is how my life was, this is how we suffered"
Really truly illogical.
She has only ever reacted when someone else brings it up. What do you expect her to do then? Stand and stare?

Now let's implore some possible meanings Lopa might be alluding to if not directly talking about her mother's illness.

If Lopa was saying "Bani I was talking about you"
What is she talking about Bani? "Aapki mother ke saath jo hua aap usse auzaar ke tarah use karti ho"
What happened to her mother? "Her mother is diagnosed with cancer for the third time"
What is Bani using? "Her mother's suffering for sympathy"

If Lopa was saying "Aapki mother ke saath jo incident hua aap usse use karti ho"
Which incident? "What Om Swami said about her mother"
Why did it make Bani angry? "Her mother is diagnosed with cancer for the third time"
What is Bani using? "Her mother's suffering for sympathy"

Twist the statement whichever way you want to it directly equals to the same answer = A cancer patient and what their family feels.

Even if someone says Bani is using the incident ie her mother's suffering for sympathy, then I am sorry to disclose this, but any person, even Bani would prefer to reverse her mom's cancer rather than using it as a mother card. Winning the show will not take cancer away.

No one in this world is this insensitive.
Even if someone is pro or anti Bani. It is just not correct to see the situation through Bani as a protagonist or antagonist. In general, the allusions Lopa made would not go down well with the sentiments of anyone in this world.
I don't think I can tolerate anyone even justifying something like this, even if I remove Bani and Lopa out of the situation.
It isn't something that can be justified. Leaving our likes and dislikes aside, we are human after all, and such sensitive topics and illnesses which plague the lives of so many in this world has been made a mockery of when I read statements like "Using" "Taking advantage" "Overreacting" "Footage"
I'm sorry, but I fail to understand how is cancer as a DISEASE, a person SUFFERING FROM IT, the person's family WHO ARE SUFFERING TOO, is an advantage that needs to be used to the full extent for your personal gains, something that needs to be milked out on national tv.
What good will it do? Will those people whom you are gaining sympathy from come support you and your mother for her chemotherapy sessions?


I feel somewhere Lopa felt guilty but was too consumed by how it will damage her image.

If only Lopa had apologized saying "I wanted to give you a taste of your medicine, so I said botox etc, I am not sorry for that, but I am sorry for bringing your reaction to your mother's suffering".
If only...

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saga_twilight thumbnail
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Posted: 9 years ago
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She knew the implications of her words clearly...that is why she was bloody shit scared of the impact of it in her career...and went on a defensive mode instead of apologizing. The worst part is she was still saying...what wrong did I say?? It I true what Bani said...surely her paegent company is following her actions closely...it will be very very interesting to know cuz the real impact will be seen after she comes out of the house. But Lopa has been nothing but a disgrace today
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Kudos BB10!! Very apt analysis! I have recently faced this illness in my family and lost my dad to cancer, as you mentioned it hurts like hell especially when you know all the wealth and doctors in the world can't fix your loved ones. You feel so dejected, desperate, lonely, helpless. Itz the worst feeling in the world you wouldn't even want your worst enemies to face..

Cancer is a deadly disease that just leaves devastation in Itz aftermath..So I can really empathize with bani..Itz the hardest for the kids to see your parents go through this nightmare..Itz excruciatingly PAINFULL..

What Lopa said to bani was completely deplorable, no matter where you are, you should never forget that something you say can never be taken back and never say something that can seriously impact people emotionally..

Is winning a task so important that you will try to bring down a person by talking about such serious issues so nonchalantly and then try to justify yourself..

To hell with the task, I could care less for such petty tasks for petty luxuries they fight like cats and dogs every week..
Edited by meghan11 - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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I totally agree BB10...ppl need to be sentizied about all illnesses. And I know how much not only ppl suffering from cancer suffer, but their families too.
My MIL's all 4 sisters passed away, suffering from cancer in theirs 30s/ 40s, leaving behind young kids and my MIL used to say that she wouldn't wish cancer even on her worst enemies.

Also its not about whether Lopa abused bani's mother or not or said something against her mother or not, but by now all HMs know that the meeting mention of her name, evokes very strong reaction from bani and guess dat was what they actually wanted as part of the task. So it was a calculated and deliberate use by Lopa, however she may try to justify it. Also saying sorry before using it does not cut in. Then toh everytime someone wants to say something bad and get away with it, they would say, sorry, you r a ***** na?
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Great post K!! Lopa had enuff time to work on her plan of action and she hit bani below the belt..

She is so blind with jealousy that she doesn't realize that she can't compare what bani said about her applying makeup for hours and her friendship with Rohan coz it is inconsequential in comparison..

She lacks compassion and can't look beyond her petty jealousy..


I don't care how Salman or BB try to portray the episode..they are in the business of money making and thatz all they care about..
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Although I absolutely hated Bani d other day for unnecessarily getting nasty wid Lopa but can't turn a blind eye to d fact dat Lopa was even more nasty...in fact d nastiest 🤢...n I fail to understand d logic dat sum here r using dat she started it first so she deserved it...well first of all it was Lopa who got personal wid "Mein kisi ke daddy se bhi nahi darti" comment...if Bani wanted she cud have milked dat very thing for footage like d Dolly Bindra's "Ae mere baap pe nahi jana" but she didn't...we all n even d HMs know her dukhti rag which is every time it has got to do sumthing wid her mother den only she goes bonkers...also d lame excuses dat it was directed at Bani n not her mother...well den by dat logic even Priyanka's were directed at Manu n not his mother...like u so brilliantly pointed out dat it's d whole family dat suffers...bottom line is deir sufferings were being made fun of which is all dat matters... n how dare sumone who can't stop bataoing gyaan about "HUMANITY" every now n den even stoop to dat level...also she didn't say it once n stopped but kept re-iterating it...so who exactly was trying to milk it for footage 🤢...I never knew about Bani's mom cancer thing infact for dat matter no one here knew until dat "Maa ki Kasam" incident happened...not even for once I have seen Bani trying to milk it to her advantage...in fact it's people like Manu n Lopa who do dat knowing very well wat her reaction's gonna be if dey bring dat sensitive topic up...for a lady who can't stop raving about how she's represented India in pageants worldwide n getting into "HUMANITY" pe pravachans mode every now n den...she came across as downright pathetic, mean and very inhumane 🤢🤢🤢

PS: Brilliantly written post 👏 agree wid each n every point 👍🏼
Edited by TheBigTamasha - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Even i feel bani uses her mothers illness for sympathy.So does that give her rights to beat me up ?Lopa said what she feels about bani.She idnt badmouth her mother nor made fun of cancer.But bani madam did make fun of her mother when she said she will forgive om for his comments if he nominates himself for bani in CR.So y should lpa or viwers not feel she is using her mother for symathy ?
Whatever has happened was verbal but bani wanted to show her muscle power by doing gundagardi.Anyways BB did nothing to her so lopa should have also slapped her in the name of agression during game.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: littlesmile

Even i feel bani uses her mothers illness for sympathy.So does that give her rights to beat me up ?Lopa said what she feels about bani.She idnt badmouth her mother nor made fun of cancer.But bani madam did make fun of her mother when she said she will forgive om for his comments if he nominates himself for bani in CR.So y should lpa or viwers not feel she is using her mother for symathy ?
Whatever has happened was verbal but bani wanted to show her muscle power by doing gundagardi.Anyways BB did nothing to her so lopa should have also slapped her in the name of agression during game.


There are some things you never say. Do you think none of the HMs felt that Manu came back too quick after his mother's demise? But did say that to him? No. Coz you just don't say.
Similarly if someone dies then you don't go to their loved ones and mention how stupid that person was. Again, they might feel that is true but nobody ever says that.
Lopa in her own dream word might feel that Bani uses the sympathy card but as a member of a person of a civilised society, she should have minced her words coz when you cross that line, you lose class and end up looking crass.

Anyway, not like you'll even care reading what I am writing now coz if you still post that after such a long post that mentioned all the points than I must be crazyy to mention this but yeah, Will just write it for the peace of my mind.
Using the Sympathy Card as an Auzaar would mean talking about it to everybody. There have been 3 times when these things got mentioned. Once by Om, second by Manu and third by Lopa. I have never seen B going around and crying in front of people that Oh God! My maa has cancer. What do I do? Coz she simply doesn't like talking about it. Yes! She reacts when someone mentions the incident coz she would rather not revisit those memories. Using it like Auzaar is not only ethically wrong but is factually incorrect as well.
She didn't even tell anyone that her mom had cancer. It was GC who spoke about it to everyone. Not taking a stand for P thing and this has no coorelatipn whatsoever.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Anything related to Mother or family person or close Friend is sensitive even they don't suffer from Cancer. Lopa won't understands she is in her fairy tale of taking right stand.

She compared Bani with Baba. The person Bani avoided from starting and told him from first week not to come in her zone. And on other side Lopa and other housemate knew Jagga and Baba how cheap they are still they supported and were friendly with the sitting, chatting and enjoying their company.

Hope once she goes out and see that she was mislead by BB entire season and what people are saying about her. Her own Father send the message with Sister not to treat Baba badly as he is older person avoids him. But she didn't listen to her own Father and still continue. Hope her Father will explain nicely where she was good for taking stand and where she went wrong as she has to face many different people in world now as her career has started now.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Its actually very easy for us to sit here with a calm mind and pass comments on how Bani should have, could have etc reacted but I don't know what it feels like to be in Bani's place. I don't know how a girl raised by a single mom, who recovered thrice from cancer should react like. And I think the least we can do it try to twist it and blame it all on Bani. "Aap apne mom ko auzaar ki tarah use karti ho"... what does it really mean? If it someone's mom does not have cancer, is it civil to say that you use your mom for sympathy? And when has she used her mom for sympathy?! Kuch toh proof de do bhai for that allegation.

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