My sympathises lie with Ishwari - Page 3

Created

Last reply

Replies

38

Views

4.3k

Users

24

Likes

181

Frequent Posters

diyah_us thumbnail
19th Anniversary Thumbnail Dazzler Thumbnail
Posted: 9 years ago
#21
eshwari is a classic example of an indian mother. whether you hav had a tough life
or easy life indian moms r very much insecure when it comes to their sons. mothers want
their sons to get married but at the same time they want their sons all to themselves
and want their sons to always make mom as the most important person in life. sad but true.
eshwari is just that. dev is not at all at fault. he is not at all neglecting his mom or his sisters.
yes he is giving time for sona but thats very natural. nobody tells about their new love relationships
easily to family. now consider sonas family. sona very well knows that her parents will not
oppose her relationship with dev but still she is not telling her parents bcos they first need
some time for each other. now his guilt trip has already started and eshwaris silent taunts will
make him even more guilty. so i dont blame either eshwari or sona but i blame a mothers
mentality that they want their sons to be the same even after they have kids because your
priorities do change when u get married & more when u have kids & they grow up.
spacenoxx thumbnail
20th Anniversary Thumbnail Navigator Thumbnail
Posted: 9 years ago
#22
Ishwari is just an amazing character. She is strength, weakness, confidence, insecurity, arrogance and humbleness all rolled into one.
And she shows all those shades of her quite regularly. She is truly a multi faceted character.

No wonder she is the most interesting and disused character.
WeRockTheWorld thumbnail
9th Anniversary Thumbnail Sparkler Thumbnail + 6
Posted: 9 years ago
#23

Originally posted by: fanktlk

@WeRockTheWorld

From a mother's view point I completely agree. Kids won't fall in love and come running to tell their parents. If they did we would dismiss it as a crush. We would ask them... Abhi waqt hi kitna hua hai...

We would want the children to be sure of their feelings.

In Dev's case he has fallen and fallen hard. But he still needs his time. He also has insecurities , he is in that phase where poetic talks are on... I want you with me always.

Only when this settles and he gets used to knowing Sona is there for him will he be come for to his mother.

Dev is an introvert. He wouldn't even smile before. Such guys needs to be encouraged to share his feelings.

Ishwar saw Dev play with Sona and not return her Payal. Any other mother would have smiled and said. Are kyon pareshan Kar raha hai use. Or at least acknowledged that they are friends.

If Ishwari did that Dev would be encouraged to share. Unlike what Ishwari likes to believe she is not Dev's friend. He doesn't share she knows. She said tu bina bataye sab ke liye sab kuch karta rehata hai.
Kids go around for months , years before they are ready to share with their parents. They also sense the right time.

For Dev this ia not the right time. His own guilt. He is finding it difficult to manage his time, his business loss, sister's wedding. Now is definitely not the time. Only when he is able to balance his life and his love would he be confident to come to his mother.

No wonder Dev would take his time.


Exactly !!

Ishwar saw Dev play with Sona and not return her Payal. Any other mother would have smiled and said. Are kyon pareshan Kar raha hai use. Or at least acknowledged that they are friends.

Very true, would have just left it as some fun during marriage time among friends.
WeRockTheWorld thumbnail
9th Anniversary Thumbnail Sparkler Thumbnail + 6
Posted: 9 years ago
#24

Originally posted by: diyah_us

eshwari is a classic example of an indian mother. whether you hav had a tough life
or easy life indian moms r very much insecure when it comes to their sons. mothers want
their sons to get married but at the same time they want their sons all to themselves
and want their sons to always make mom as the most important person in life. sad but true.
eshwari is just that. dev is not at all at fault. he is not at all neglecting his mom or his sisters.
yes he is giving time for sona but thats very natural. nobody tells about their new love relationships
easily to family. now consider sonas family. sona very well knows that her parents will not
oppose her relationship with dev but still she is not telling her parents bcos they first need
some time for each other. now his guilt trip has already started and eshwaris silent taunts will
make him even more guilty. so i dont blame either eshwari or sona but i blame a mothers
mentality that they want their sons to be the same even after they have kids because your
priorities do change when u get married & more when u have kids & they grow up.


Times are changing and so are the perspectives of parents of India😊. We understand our children are individuals who will have their own needs and desires as they grow up and we need to respect that . Just because we bring them up doesnt mean we force our wishes on them. All we need to do is prepare them/teach them the basics of life/ make them ready to face life in the best possible way!! There are no perfect parenting concepts. Its all about actions and reactions of both parties ( parents and kids ) . If kid learn from us , then we also learn from them too.

Every relationship should be given enough space to grow and prosper . If we hold it tight or let it very loose ...then that relationship breaks. There should always be a right sense of balance that we need to try and achieve.
ltelidevara thumbnail
Visit Streak 1000 Thumbnail Visit Streak 750 Thumbnail + 8
Posted: 9 years ago
#25
As for Sona, I find her character irritating and so uncomplicated and so simple, that I relate in no way to her and since I dont relate, I dont feel bad for her!---
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Absolutely true. I also feel the same way for Iswari. And I honestly admit like you that I am watching the show for Shaheer and Supriyaji.
CVs suddenly changed Dev's Charecter that is not in sink with his original personality.
Ofcourse he previously shared everything with Iswari.Their relationship is normal,intense but not complicated.
When he is dealing with Gujral he told his mother how important it is for him.
When he is not sure about Natasha that he told her and even asked her suggestion.
When he broke up his engagement that too on the D Day he did not hesitate to tell his mother.
Dev always is free in his interaction with his mother.
In some of the Episodes he even made her realise Sona is not at fault,He is frank and honest whenever he is with his mother.
That honesty is missing.That frankness disappeared. He who used to call her or answer her calls when he is late hardly does anything like that nowadays. And the halwa incident? Less said the better.He is just someone else. Not Dev Dikshit. I pity Iswari. If Dev changed this much before marriage I can very well visualise how he will be after his marriage with his so called love of his life.
What to do? I am obsessively passionate about Shaheer. And I respect Supriyaji. So I am getting along with the show. God save Shaheer.I hope his role will soon evolve in a better way. I wish him all the best.
i5hy thumbnail
19th Anniversary Thumbnail Rocker Thumbnail Commentator Level 1 Thumbnail
Posted: 9 years ago
#26
My feelings are a bit conflicted. The way her character is portrayed she is like a child who doesnt want to let go of her favourite toy. She talks of Dev's happiness and about love but doesnt get the fact Dev also will have a love life and will have needs too. Her words and actions contradict each other. I do get why she is so insecure.Ever since her husband died Dev has been her rock. In a twisted way Dev is filling the duties of her husband ( I didnt mean it in a bad way). So she doesnt want this equation to change ever. In the coming weeks we will get to see how possessive she becomes and frankly thats not how a mother should behave. Though Im sympathetic towards her at times I feel she is very selfish. At any cost she wants Dev to stay the way he is. Like an ATM in a bank which will provide the money to run the house. She is condemning her son to a life of loneliness, agony and despair. Sad thing is Dev being Dev will sacrifice everything for his mother. The best thing about this serial is its hard to blame anyone. The relationship between the mother and son is so beautiful you dont want anyone to come between them. Likewise the love and respect Devakshi has for one another makes you want to keep them in their bubble of happiness forever. However the storm is coming and when it hits there will be huge repercussions and I dont know how Ill be able to handle it.
rogerrocks thumbnail
13th Anniversary Thumbnail Trailblazer Thumbnail + 4
Posted: 9 years ago
#27
I think the one big positive about this show is that most characters are right and wrong in their own way..Atleast so far 😆 And the reason why Ishwari is so impactful-whether positive or negative is because of the way Supriya plays the role..She is ridiculously good and makes it disturbingly real a lot of times ( almost to the point of making me want to skip the scene at times 😆)..I remember that scene where Dev drak milk at Sona's insistence..Or the one where Mamiji made her look through the Sangeet pictures and she ended up seeing Dev-Sona being lost in each other-Disgust, shock, insecurity, disbelief, denial yet trying her best to act normal- she was so so good..So good that in one scene you are disturbed by her reactions and in the very next one, you cant help but feel sorry for her..This woman is honestly fabulous and as much as i like Dev-Sona, i hope to God they always maintain this intrigue in Ishwari's character and dont make her do ridiculous things just to glorify the leads..Anyways, as far as this issue is concerned, i do think both Dev and Ishwari are equally at fault..For all the love they have for each other, the sad part is they just do not understand each other..Neha and Sonakshi understand them a lot more than they do when it comes to each other. Everyone can see Ishwari's disturbing insecurity and possessiveness except Dev. Am not that surprised though cos the guy really does love to live in a bubble 😆 And the irony is its pricking Ishwari now but Dev has never really shared most things with her..Even in the first week, he din't share Neha's conditions with her..And then all his late night visits to Sona, their friendship, conversations, etc.- he never bothered to share anything with her..Hell, he broke his engagement without bothering to as much as inform his mom but she din't mind it then cos it suited her purpose 😆 Dev takes a lot of things for granted and he sucks at understanding people..The reason why he and Neha are this messed up is because of Ishwari..Am probably being judgmental here but without being dismissive of her struggles and sacrifices, i do think her parenting sucked in a lot of ways..The blatant partiality, Dev being made to shoulder more emotional burden than he can handle, the unreasonably high expectations, the subtle undercurrent of patriarchy where Dev gets to take all the important decisions while Neha has no say in them- I dont think Ishwari realizes how much it has managed to impact the two of them. So yeah, in all this, the one person i feel sorry for is Sonakshi..Cos she is gonna suffer because of Ishwari's disturbing possessiveness, Dev's lack of understanding of people and situations and his overwhelming need to rectify situations without really bothering to see if he is doing the right thing and not bothering to look at the consequences and of course the lack of communication between them..I dont really care for Dev's romantic declarations so there are times when i really wonder if its all worth it for Sona 😆
Edited by rogerrocks - 9 years ago
saumiee thumbnail
15th Anniversary Thumbnail Rocker Thumbnail + 5
Posted: 9 years ago
#28

Originally posted by: rogerrocks

I think the one big positive about this show is that most characters are right and wrong in their own way..Atleast so far 😆 And the reason why Ishwari is so impactful-whether positive or negative is because of the way Supriya plays the role..She is ridiculously good and makes it disturbingly real a lot of times ( almost to the point of making me want to skip the scene at times 😆)..I remember that scene where Dev drak milk at Sona's insistence..Or the one where Mamiji made her look through the Sangeet pictures and she ended up seeing Dev-Sona being lost in each other-Disgust, shock, insecurity, disbelief, denial yet trying her best to act normal- she was so so good..So good that in one scene you are disturbed by her reactions and in the very next one, you cant help but feel sorry for her..This woman is honestly fabulous and as much as i like Dev-Sona, i hope to God they always maintain this intrigue in Ishwari's character and dont make her do ridiculous things just to glorify the leads..Anyways, as far as this issue is concerned, i do think both Dev and Ishwari are equally at fault..For all the love they have for each other, the sad part is they just do not understand each other..Neha and Sonakshi understand them a lot more than they do when it comes to each other. Everyone can see Ishwari's disturbing insecurity and possessiveness except Dev. Am not that surprised though cos the guy really does love to live in a bubble 😆 And the irony is its pricking Ishwari now but Dev has never really shared most things with her..Even in the first week, he din't share Neha's conditions with her..And then all his late night visits to Sona, their friendship, conversations, etc.- he never bothered to share anything with her..Hell, he broke his engagement without bothering to as much as inform his mom but she din't mind it then cos it suited her purpose 😆 Dev takes a lot of things for granted and he sucks at understanding people..The reason why he and Neha are this messed up is because of Ishwari..Am probably being judgmental here but without being dismissive of her struggles and sacrifices, i do think her parenting sucked in a lot of ways..The blatant partiality, Dev being made to shoulder more emotional burden than he can handle, the unreasonably high expectations, the subtle undercurrent of patriarchy where Dev gets to take all the important decisions while Neha has no say in them- I dont think Ishwari realizes how much it has managed to impact the two of them. So yeah, in all this, the one person i feel sorry for is Sonakshi..Cos she is gonna suffer because of Ishwari's disturbing possessiveness, Dev's lack of understanding of people and situations and his overwhelming need to rectify situations without really bothering to see if he is doing the right thing and not bothering to look at the consequences and of course the lack of communication between them..I dont really care for Dev's romantic declarations so there are times when i really wonder if its all worth it for Sona 😆

Word to everything you said👏
GoodyTwoShoes thumbnail
13th Anniversary Thumbnail Sparkler Thumbnail + 2
Posted: 9 years ago
#29

Originally posted by: rogerrocks

I think the one big positive about this show is that most characters are right and wrong in their own way..Atleast so far 😆 And the reason why Ishwari is so impactful-whether positive or negative is because of the way Supriya plays the role..She is ridiculously good and makes it disturbingly real a lot of times ( almost to the point of making me want to skip the scene at times 😆)..I remember that scene where Dev drak milk at Sona's insistence..Or the one where Mamiji made her look through the Sangeet pictures and she ended up seeing Dev-Sona being lost in each other-Disgust, shock, insecurity, disbelief, denial yet trying her best to act normal- she was so so good..So good that in one scene you are disturbed by her reactions and in the very next one, you cant help but feel sorry for her..This woman is honestly fabulous and as much as i like Dev-Sona, i hope to God they always maintain this intrigue in Ishwari's character and dont make her do ridiculous things just to glorify the leads..Anyways, as far as this issue is concerned, i do think both Dev and Ishwari are equally at fault..For all the love they have for each other, the sad part is they just do not understand each other..Neha and Sonakshi understand them a lot more than they do when it comes to each other. Everyone can see Ishwari's disturbing insecurity and possessiveness except Dev. Am not that surprised though cos the guy really does love to live in a bubble 😆 And the irony is its pricking Ishwari now but Dev has never really shared most things with her..Even in the first week, he din't share Neha's conditions with her..And then all his late night visits to Sona, their friendship, conversations, etc.- he never bothered to share anything with her..Hell, he broke his engagement without bothering to as much as inform his mom but she din't mind it then cos it suited her purpose 😆 Dev takes a lot of things for granted and he sucks at understanding people..The reason why he and Neha are this messed up is because of Ishwari..Am probably being judgmental here but without being dismissive of her struggles and sacrifices, i do think her parenting sucked in a lot of ways..The blatant partiality, Dev being made to shoulder more emotional burden than he can handle, the unreasonably high expectations, the subtle undercurrent of patriarchy where Dev gets to take all the important decisions while Neha has no say in them- I dont think Ishwari realizes how much it has managed to impact the two of them. So yeah, in all this, the one person i feel sorry for is Sonakshi..Cos she is gonna suffer because of Ishwari's disturbing possessiveness, Dev's lack of understanding of people and situations and his overwhelming need to rectify situations without really bothering to see if he is doing the right thing and not bothering to look at the consequences and of course the lack of communication between them..I dont really care for Dev's romantic declarations so there are times when i really wonder if its all worth it for Sona 😆

Madam finally aapko vichar aa gaye show pe...dhanya ho gaye ham toh pad ke😆
rogerrocks thumbnail
13th Anniversary Thumbnail Trailblazer Thumbnail + 4
Posted: 9 years ago
#30

Originally posted by: GoodyTwoShoes

Madam finally aapko vichar aa gaye show pe...dhanya ho gaye ham toh pad ke😆


Suja 🤗 I do post once in a while 😆 Mostly to bash Dev I have noticed 🤣 Cos unlike most ppl, I think he is super messed up and if anything, he is lucky Sona is this patient and mature 😆

Related Topics

Top

Stay Connected with IndiaForums!

Be the first to know about the latest news, updates, and exclusive content.

Add to Home Screen!

Install this web app on your iPhone for the best experience. It's easy, just tap and then "Add to Home Screen".