Do good scenes make a good episode?

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Posted: 10 years ago
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I could be the only one who is feeling this sharp sense of disappointment and my sincere apologies to anyone who find this post negative and depressing..

Individually, every scene in the last 2 episodes were pleasing to the eyes and to the senses, but looking back they feel more like fillers. I can't genuinely understand whether we got any new revelations from these scenes or they by any way help the story to move forward..

Probably the biggest disappointment for me was no follow up on the phone call Ananya received from Tinnu, that was one scene I was eagerly looking forward to in yesterday's episode, Ananya meeting Tinnu and then discussing the lead with Kabir, but neither our EIC nor his stupid reporter remembered about that phone call. Probably EIC (who is drowned in positivity these days) is now planning to change KKN's business from breaking news to spreading positivity ;), who knows 'Manav se manavta tak' could be the first step towards this transformation ;), no wonder Ronnie got promoted for this idea ;)

The KaYa scene at the end, very very good, especially I liked the way Kabir ignored Ananya's protests and continued reciting the memorised wish list. But again, didn't we all already had lots and lots of proof for what kind of doting and pampering BF Kabir is. Who needs more proof, Ananya? As a viewer, I certainly don't need. This guy is a gone case in love, he would do anything & everything for her, if Ananya demands him to make a friendship pact with Shreya, he would agree without second thoughts. These scenes are cute stress busters, but they aren't needed in every episode, that too when the episode already felt like a filler, please show something new..

Kabir - Malvika scene, a glimpse of smart Kabir when he with a super cool attitude confidently said he knows that she & Manav are behind the photo incidence, I loved the way he said he too would feel very bad if someone accuses him or behaves rudely with him, provided he is NOT the culprit of accused crime, that was one sharp statement, and said with a cool aplomb. And Malvika's reactions were perfect, the actress does a great job in such scenes. But I don't agree with Kabir's logic of not searching her cabin in public for saving her public humiliation, sorry, it sounded too lame an excuse for me. From when he started worrying about the humiliation of someone who more than deserves it? Malvika put his and her own channel's reputation at risk by that act, and her 'izzat' deserved to be saved? Oh, come on, you are the one who were sitting on the hot seat and faced millions of audience live.. And you feel that Malvika's that act can be overlooked? If this is the Ananya effect on you, sorry I am not liking this effect, and I am not liking this improved version of Kabir too. Rajeev did a wonderful job in the change in expression from stern to slightly dreamy, softening look when he talked about Ananya, and there were some very good dialogues in this segment about how the channel needs people who can work from heart, and also about how Malvika being at much superior position shouldn't compare herself with Ronnie. But the positivity part put me off, let's be realistic here, how can we start fresh and ignore the past when the person who committed mistake in the past is not even repentant about it? Let's say, someone had been directly or indirectly responsible for the death of a family member of mine, will I be able to give a second chance to that person? I may be able to forgive the act if the person repents for the act and seeks forgiveness, but without that? Seems Kabir is no more normal Kabir, Swami Kabiranandha had taken over his body ;).

Kabir's this Ananya puran disturbed me in another angle too, this open admiration & appreciation he has for Ananya's positive influence on him, seems like a glaring contrast to her blatant disregard to his concerns, warnings and reactions. Ok, I got the writer's vision of Ananya, she makes her mind based on her own experiences and observations, a very good quality, why did God empower us with a thinking brain & sixth sense if we are going to be led by others opinions and experiences. Love this aspect of her character, and I don't expect her to heed Kabir's supposed paranoia or warnings especially when there doesn't seem to be any valid reasoning behind them. But why her observations doesn't include Kabir's extreme reactions to Shreya, I agree with her not paying attention to his words, but I can't understand she not paying attention to his behaviour and reactions, she had witnessed first hand how he reacted to Shreya's entry in KKN, and then during the kerchief fiasco, such reactions are not normal at all, he was literally shaking with resentment and disgust, he overcoming those reactions with the help of Ananya is a good thing, but why doesn't Ananya think what caused these reactions in the first place? Any person with thinking brain would have this question in their mind and whatever reason they are not openly expressing it or seeking the answers, it would certainly put them on a a guard against the third person (Shreya here). Why isn't it happening with Ananya? I really hoped Annaya would be on guard with Shreya after the dinner incident. But the precap presents an altogether different story. She is still continuing with he Shreya Bhajan in the precap.

I totally relate to Ananya's dilemma in her scene with Shreya. She was emotionally blackmailed into accepting the friendship hand. She wasn't very comfortable, that's why she was hesitant but she couldn't really deny after all the sob story, it would have been really rude. Shreya, I am getting disappointed with her portrayal these days, I liked her with her attitude, now she is forced to cut a sorry figure of herself and seek sympathy. That makes the character look very unclassy. But one consistent behaviour of her, she always undermines Kabir subtly, in her every talk with Ananya, she had maligned Kabir by suitably appreciating Ananya, 'Angsty' Kabir, really? Even before Ananya's positivity gyan, Kabir was never shown as angst sort of person, his casual acceptance of Ananya's continued friendship with Ronnie, is the biggest proof of it. The Kabir we know from last 87 episodes, is never an angsty person, either in personal life or professional life and if it is change from old Kabir, it is certainly not Ananya's influence, he achieved it by himself. What Shreya is trying to achieve by this malignation of old Kabir? Is she subtly preparing Ananya to listen to her side sob story about her marriage breakup? Seems like a possibility to me.

Manav bhai delivered the biggest blow to Malvika ;), while Kabir was still kind of sympathetic and even encouraging to Malvika, Manav had no such niceties. And Manav didn't surprise me even one bit, I always knew he is being overtly professional only because his own position in the channel is under threat. Once his new show is established, he will be back with his manipulative power games. He would go any lengths to reach his ambition, let's not forget how he used Tarini's name & pictures to malign Kabir. The EIC chair is his ultimate goal, probably our current EIC is making it easy for him to get it, by making his likes & dislikes list (I felt that's what he was doing when Malvika entered his cabin ;)) and memorising his GF's list at office hours ;).

Just a doubt, didn't Manav leave for Lucknow before KaYa went on the date? Then how did he manage to get the date pictures, seems even during the family emergency, his cunning mind worked overtime to arrange someone (probably his Pandeyji) to click the lovebirds' pictures ;), what a dedication to his cause!! He certainly deserves the EIC chair ;)

Ronnie deserved more than one word of congratulations from Ananya, hope she arranges for a party this time, or she is only capable of being at the receiving end of the pampering from the men in her life? ;). Ronnie, as always remains Ananya's voice of reason!!

Why didn't Annaya tell about her new friend to Kabir or even to Ronnie? Didn't she promise Kabir that she won't hide anything from him? And if she had told Ronnie, he would have pushed her to tell Kabir.

Anita's thoughts in the precap are very valid, wonder why Annaya never thinks in those lines though ;). Is this what provokes Anita to seek out Shreya. Ideally shouldn't she first check the cause of divorce with Kabir? I am sure Shreya won't directly badmouth Kabir, she will use the same trick she uses with Annaya, subtle undermining of Kabir and show herself in some sympathetic light. Let's see whether the mother becomes as susceptible to her manipulations as the daughter.. Whatever the outcome of Anita's talk with Shreya, I will be glad of it, because it is going to lead to opening up of Kabir-Shreya past. The story is now stagnant without this revelation.

A request to the makers, can we have a two minute scene of Tarini - Anurag this week?

p.s : This show is certainly unique in one way, probably only show where the male lead talks three times more than the female lead ;). Really astonished with how much dialogues Kabir speak in each episode, including the JSP ;). And another uniqueness, the one show where almost all male characters are smarter than the female counterparts ;).

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Some missed points..
As per Kabir's logic, by default Shreya becomes his friend now ;) and even Tarini becomes Shreya's friend ;), I would love it if Kabir points it out to Shreya.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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@geetha loved your ananlysis... yes this thought is haunting me again and again ... where is that annaya who easily figured out the bhavna shroff case... sachi pyaar andha hota hai aur pyaar mein padne waale andhe ho jaate hain it seems... anyways let shope for the best. any ideas that why shreya befriended annaya???
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Posted: 10 years ago
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I agree those were filler episodes...but I am happy with the KaYa part...though I want to see Kabir Sharma the EIC take charge now and come out of this dreamland in office...it would be great to see Kabir and Ananya once again going for the news coverage like they used to do before but with some love shove moments in between unlike the nhok jhoks they used to have...😳
It was a bit shocking to know Manav was the one who helped Malvika with those snap scoops...they were not on talking terms right? then why did once again Manav resort to this chamchagiri...anyways he and Malvika are kutte ki dhums...so they will never change...😈

This Shreya sweetness is killing us...I know Ananya is a smart reporter but many a times she is dumb with what is happening around her...wish she sees through all this and the fake Shreya reveals afterall why she is back to take vengence...

Anita's fears are not uncalled for...afterall her daughter is in love with a divorcee who is now facing her daily...but instead of talking to Shreya I wish she would have talked to Kabir..afterall he had requested her to trust him while he said agar kabhi bhi mera past mere saamne aakar khada ho jaata hain...aap mujhe apna bharosa nahin thodengi...and I really wish the makers are not going to make Shreya to be some sati savitri type...🤢

Kabir Sharma come on...put your acts together..whenever he used to walk his heroic walk to the newsroom my dil used to go dhak dhak..wisn to see that same andreline effect back...want to see my hero Rajeev back in his Kabir Sharma the EIC avatar😳
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Geetha_R

Some missed points..

As per Kabir's logic, by default Shreya becomes his friend now ;) and even Tarini becomes Shreya's friend ;), I would love it if Kabir points it out to Shreya.


You cracked me up there. I was thinking the same, he has no option but to be nice with her too now. I'm not sure about Tarini but Kabir n Shreya are friends now and he doesn't even know that ;)

It was a OK episode for me..you did do a great and long analysis with a OK episode..thats some talent :)

Seriously, only thing that kept me engaged was Shreya and Ananya scene.. Malvika n Kabir or Malvika n Manav or Kabir n Ananya scenes didn't interest me..looks like something is really wrong with me. Too much expectations often gives disappointment.

Felt like ya I know you love her and you will only will pacify her no matter who is wrong... Feels repetitive. I dont know why whenever I see K-A scenes these days it feels like they are on lambi chutti..it can be good/bad depending on ones perspective :) personally I feel they need some work to do..help me I don't want to lose my affinity towards Kabir!

Malivika is shameless so that's a case close and ya I knew Manav still wants to be EIC but is making his roots stronger.

One thing though, I didn't understand why Kabir thinks Malvika is smart? Nothing she does in recent past sounds/looks smart..she could have just sent those pics to other channel and give big blow to K-A but no.. Anyway she is becoming siller day by day. Also I didn't actually feel Kabir was at his best, remember Richa's scene where he presented his case so well. Man I miss EIC Kabir.. This positive Kabir is OK but EIC Kabir is the best ;)

I gave up on news reporting..so I didn't actually pay attention to Tinu's call :)

Anyway I had few things(copy pasting from other post) that caught my attention in Shreyas conversation yesterday with Ananya

1. She asks Ananya to ask Kabir to accept her friendship or not, and when Ananya said there is no need ..she was like oh yeah Kabir is changed person now.. He is not(angsty) like before now - - was she trying to infer that when she was Kabir's wife/in the past she had to take permission from him for everything thing including her friendships and he was a very anxious person in general?

2. She almost confessed through her friendship with Ananya she hopes to be atleast normal friends with Kabir - Is she just using Ananya to be near Kabir?

3. Why is she portraying herself as s poor women.. Is she preparing the ground to blame Kabir as the sole reason for their break up?

No comments on Ananya!

Geetha come on don't wish for Tarini and Anurag, for that we will have bare a roothna maanana session.. I can't handle them please!
Edited by Sherni541 - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Totally agree with you that the show is not moving forward. Shreya's saccharine sweetness is hard to digest. Ananya's friendship pact with her looks all wrong - the woman is slowly spreading her tentacles and our girl is all gullible and naive with her. For a moment I thought Ananya will refuse but ofcourse she was put in a tight spot and it was very difficult for her - it would have seemed rather rude. Shreya is depicting herself as a martyr with her lonely world and in all her talks with Ananya she tests the waters by subtly undermining Kabir and exalting Ananya and she succeeds each time when Ananya simply overrides this facade in her. But she should have shared about her new friend with Kabir and Ronnie.

Loved Kabir handling the disgruntled heiress Malvika and even after all this she may plot something even worse and Ananya will be her target always. People like her will not change come what may but atleast she knows her cheap gimmicks can be traced. Manav can do anything to attain his cherished goal but seriously the two M's use each other when they want and ignore them when they are not suited in their game plans.


To me the Kaya moment in the last few minutes were the saving grace. They both looked uber cute and Kabir was all sensuous and his lady love blushing pink.

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Posted: 10 years ago
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I always loved your analysis Geeta, but sorry today I've to disagree that the epi was a filler, it gave us so much of insight of the upcoming drama, let me put scen by scene,
The forced friends request by Sherya and Ananya accepting it with being left with any other option, hear few points r really clear,

1. Sherya is still not over her feelings for Kabir
2. She holds aka ir responsible for their divorce( her saying that Kabir is a changed man now😕)
3. She wants to prove that Kabir is not capable of holding into any relations for long and even Ananya will suffer the same fate as her.
4. She wants agin come close to Kabir through Ananya

The second scene I will totally agree with Kabir of not exposing Malvika infront of the entire office, there r some work ethics, which Malvika may have forgot but Kabir has not, finally she is the daughter of a partial owner of KKN and her insult will not be taken lightly By her father even if she was at fault, Kabir knows this and since he has to work in the same environment for upcoming years he just can't rake the past( the damage was done and even rectified) to spoil the future.


Manav is the same and nobody can change him so will skip him

Finally coming to KaYa scene it also had a purpose, unlike the regular romance or pampering his gf there was more to it, in that small scene Kabir was able to see the insecurities for the first time after Sherya's entry in his life and he so sweetly clarified her doubts which where haunting her from the begging and she was just trying hard to ignore them and keeping a brave face in front of her friends and even Kabir, she showed it only to her mom when she confronts her after Sherya's visit.

Finally for the reporting accept, even I expected her to leave to meet Tinu yesterday after she met Shrya, may be we may get it today, if not then also I'm ok with it, because this was done tosh ow there they r still working in the backgrounds which is not show to us, because news channel has to run and has to be fed with news, the other accepts r the second things in the office which is being concentrated right now, I just can't complain to cvs also because you can't do both the things at a time, shooting outdoors as well as indoors is a it difficult task, as we know they have limited time and ppl unlike movies either you can do only outdoor ( which is by the way too costly and tiring and has its own limitations as I know being in the same field) so they r concentrating more of indoors, I think Sudeer Kashyap case will again be an outdoor shoot.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Geetha ! Bang on ! A couple of things I could not related to.

1. Why does Ananya share everything with Ronnie but not with Kabir. Is Kabir only there for the ride back home ? He has time and again requested her to share everything with him so "they" can sort it out together. I understand she always rants "Mujhe iss pal mein jeena hain" but that look at that pal also na. Friendship with Shreya (which was very forced) is not a pal worth remembering.

2. How can Kabir forgive Malvika. She humiliated Ananya in the conference room. She humiliated her when she did not accept the promotion. She humiliated Kabir by hiding the chip. Come on Kabir, you had admonished Ananya saying dil bada hona chahiye but itna bada bhi nahin and what are you doing now ?

3. Where is Tinnu and his hot news ?

The only things that I thought took the story a step atleast further was

1. Manav making it very clear what he was going to do. He needs the EIC chair and he is out to get it using either Malvika or Shreya.
2. Ananya's Shreya gun-gaan will make Anita want to find things out herself.

I just hope Shreya's smart talk with Anita will not be the big setback for Kabir. The last thing I don't want is Anita not ready to let Ananya go ahead with Kabir on the basis of what she heard from Shreya.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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last few episode turned out to be filler part. I agree with you.

CVs did touched few subtle character line in these episodes. different level of maturity in personal life.

Ananya - childish. she is not seen life beyond her family. she is a good daughter, sister. As for now love, GF and future wife titles and concept behind that are new. she is in exploring stage. she is putting her effort to understand but she is not ready to climb up to next level to see those new venture. she is trying to see that from her current level. so she needs some learning by mistake way to move on to next level.

Kabir - little more mature. His past married life and errors committed in that have taught him few lessons. he is trying to balance his new venture and childish girl with his experience. So he is extra careful not to repeat his past mistakes and try to understand his GF more carefully without changing her character flavor. he may be encouraging her childish act that is because he fall in love with her for those innocent characters. He is manipulative but not in personal life.

Anita - matured. has seen life as daughter, wife, mother and woman in family and society. she closely watches every situation. living without her husband and staying as single mother to her children has taught so many lessons in her life. Her angle of seeing things in her daughter's life comes with her own experience.

Shreya - matured. but manipulative type in personal life too. she has achieved things in her life with manipulating. failed in her personal life. now seeing her failure ex-husband living successfully in front of her, triggered ego. so she is trying her level best to enter into her ex's circle of personal relations.

I liked your point 'breaking news to spreading positivity'. Even Khalid trying this only. ananya, Kabir and Anita are taking effort to build their relationships. they didn't push out extra baggage's but playing it safely.

whereas Shreya's only aim is to reach Kabir. this is very much clear in her past few incidents. She perfectly moved her coin to get Ananya in her hand. Ananya is emotional fool. very well cornered her using some emotional talks. first I thought Ananya accepted Shreya's friends request because she doesn't want to be rude to her. but precap shows she is totally blindfolded to Shreya's drama. Ananya is clean bold now.

How Kabir react to his GF's mahanta act? hope he asks 'will you be friend to everyone who are staying alone for many years in this world?'

any woman in this world will prefer Kabir kind of husband for their life. he is so much understanding and supportive. soon situation will change. Ananya needs to take that position to stay by his side. This is just glimpse for that.

Kabir didn't search Malvika's room not because her image will be spoiled. He respects KL. he don't want to spoil KL's name in the office. Malvika is saved because she is KL's daughter. Kabir mentioned Ananya name to show her that he is changed person because of her. He never failed to pay credit to person who guides him for good.

without any shame Malvika went back to Manav. We know Manav well he just dumbed her and moving ahead in his plan knowing her support is not needed anymore as she is seal without authority.

Manav seriously eyeing on EIC's GF too. Manav Bhai I can't give guarantee for your life now. What EIC will do knowing your mind can be predicted only by The Kabir Sharma. Warning to Manav : don't try to cross into Kabir Sharma's territory you will be finished.

Hope we get some reporting from Ananya. initial days of reporting this time confronting with Malvika and Shreya.
Edited by rrinky17 - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Nice post
I too feel show has slow down little

Annaya her mind has gone to picnic she is not ready to understand anything

I really want kabir to understand shreya's plan soon and protect annaya before it is too late

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