Raman seeking middle ground in life *NOTE pg 14* - Page 9

Created

Last reply

Replies

147

Views

18.7k

Users

50

Likes

1.3k

Frequent Posters

avni_19 thumbnail
16th Anniversary Thumbnail Rocker Thumbnail + 3
Posted: 11 years ago
#81

Originally posted by: GanBarunFan

Happy Holi
guys since it's already 6th in India!. I play with edit feature when it's not an episode review...this is sort of my personal interpretation of last years Holi Dance...I had planned to post the collage today, but since you guys asked me to post it yeasterday...I'm posting these...







yayaya!! Holi Hai!!!😳

Happyy Holii everyone...🤗

Gan Di... Mast Editsss!!! I loved ittt!!! The color effects..👏 🤗Wattaa an intensity filled dance... Pheww!! I fell for Puttar's raw lust desire stare!! ☺️KP was fantastic here! DT as well with her irritated, "dont-touch-me" look!
janu12345 thumbnail
14th Anniversary Thumbnail Voyager Thumbnail
Posted: 11 years ago
#82
Res..back after ages.. But today's epi had me very disappointed...!
Hey Gan...😛 Real life has been rather erratic... hence disappeared, but been reading your posts... When I am at work your collage gives me a visual summary of the episode as always...😳 Have truck loads of work... but couldn't help it today.

Why am I disappointed... RKB has been one of my most favorite characters because he was the imperfect hero. Did I expect him to do a heroic act everytime? No. Do I expect him to be impulsive? Yes. Do I expect him to be unreasonable at times? Yes. One thing that characterized RKB right from the beginning of the serial was his immense love for his first born.


Yes Raman told Ishita stuff that were hurtful and wrong because the wedding was not solely her responsibility and neither the fact that none of the Bhallas said anything when Ishita proposed the solution of Rinky Mihir marriage...so if doing something impulsive is wrong, so is wrong the silent acceptance. Raman cannot avoid accountability just because he didn't say anything. - I couldn't agree more with this Gan but...

The wedding: I swear I feel like throwing something at the screen each time someone starts saying Ishita was responsible for the fiasco. On the day of the wedding, when Toshi said all that she did to Ishita publicly , Ishu took it in quietly coz that is how she is. I wish today she had given it back to putthar when he launched that tirade again in front of everybody. Why did no one say anything when the Ishita put forward the proposal. Toshi was all happy and so was Mr.Bhalla. (Though I wish miya biwi had a discussion before the wedding happened.. but that is wishful thinking) Pits was Toshi defending Pammi.

Irony RKB was happier marrying his sister off to a stranger about whom they had "enquired" about for a week rather than a boy they have seen growing up. Raman wanted Mihir to move on and get married, but today its his sister and he doesnt feel the same?

Today the sensible lines were given to Sarika, Mr.Bhalla and Ishita. I was glad how Ishita said she can't go to Sarika after talking to Romi.

Putthar was talking abt love for marriage is not required. Does he even realize we are not even talking about love here. For Romi it is only so that no one questions about his swimmers and the kid. Sarika is just a convenient option for him. Romi cheats Sarika, has he repented for that? No. Has he apologized to her? No. Does he feel remorseful at all? No. Then why does Romi deserve a quick fix? Putthar himself has said this before. Romi's kaand's are neverending and this time too no one has asked him to do anything to fix his mistake, everyone is running around.

Romi has cheated Sarika. Sarika faces the consequences of everything that happened between them. He blatantly says thaali ek haath se nahin bajti. What precisely has Romi faced for what he has done? Hell he doesnt even have a job. Even now he gets the solution leaving Sarika to face the problem? Why does Raman get to decide what is enough for Sarika - naam, parivar, etc. Even when they go to her house, he doesn't mention once that he knows about the medical problem thats why they are here. If Romi didn't have the medical problem, if they had not found out about it, would anyone have bothered at all? Shouldn't Romi be doing anything at all to get Sarika's forgiveness, and shouldn't it be Sarika's choice to forgive him or not? What disappoints me is I personally think RKB was not like this in matters of right and wrong though he always loved his family. Adi was a sole exception to this.

Yesterday everyone mollycoddling Romi made me cringe. He had apologized for the money nothing else. He was embarrassed about his screwed up swimmers. Not about how he had wronged someone. No one seemed to care. Everyone seem to think that is enough. Thats very sad. This happens in real life I know, but show me some progression on screen. Something .. i Dunno

Raman using Ishita as a punching bag is not something new, but today was ridiculous IMO. Especially the dialogues. Raman's mindset had me wondering.

Shagun... I guess I am going to leave her for another day!

Looong rant, but feels good now...😃

PS: It was very disappointing to see no one ticked off toshi when she said what she did about Ananya and Ruhi. Bhalla's will realize Ruhis importance I dont know when.


Edited by janu12345 - 11 years ago
-Gan- thumbnail
14th Anniversary Thumbnail Sparkler Thumbnail + 3
Posted: 11 years ago
#83

Originally posted by: mischief

Hi Gan, Sorry... I'm for the first time on ur thread gonna disagree with you here as I for once couldn't connect with Raman when he saw Ishita wiping her tears today. I love puttar a lot (who doesn't over here) But for me he behaved like a complete JERK today. I was totally disappointed with him today, even more than for his inaction in yesterday's episode.

U know after his verbal spat when he saw Ishita crying n wiping her tears n then moving to the kitchen area on the pretext of serving snacks, I expected Raman to at least give a sorry look at her before leaving the room ( or even a sad look emoting that he didn't mean to hurt her this way), but with the coldness he left the room left a very bad taste in my mouth...It seems like Ishita's tears jus don't bother him!!! And on the other side he can do anything when he sees his mother weeping for unreasonable & illogical reasons!!

Had that girl stopped the Bhallas from approaching Sarika?!! No!! Heck she only said that she would not approach her in this respect as she felt that Romi was not ready for this marriage. She said it was jus her opinion and she was not pressing her opinion on him or the Bhallas. What was wrong in that Raman? Why it is always that it is only Raman who has the right to get angry on her and vent out so much of anguish on her and she has to always take it in her stride to understand that her husband doesn't mean anything what he says when he is angry. Above all, why does Raman always shows so much of disrespect for their relationship in front of other people and repents later in the confines of his room.

I'm not going back to recall those harsh words which Puttar has hurled upon Biwi because it hurts to recall those baseless words. This outburst from Puttar has hurted me more than Shagun's words. 😭😭

Puttar...Where was this anger hidden when ur ex-wife was hurling abuses to ur wife in the last 2 episodes..😡😡

Ishita... What should I say about this lady... Today if one asks me to make a choice between who loves who the most between Ishra...I would undoubtedly pick Ishita over Raman... This woman loves her LOVE in whole, with all the shortcomings and imperfection. No matter what he does she will be the first one to stand for him in his times of need and take a stand for him. Puttar, don't take her love for granted.




Oh absolutely just because I interpreted a scene in a certain way, doesn't mean everyone has to...If I wanted to act like Pied Piper...I wouldn't post in IF, I would just open a blog post with just my opinion. I absolutely welcome that.😊

@bold ...there lies the crux of expectation from Raman and his frustration at not getting that support from her today...And he knows that if she's by his side, things will be ok. He's going overboard(very much in Raman's character) trying to 'fix' his bachchas life but he also knows without Ishita, it's impossible.

About Hubby wife fights, that too infront of the whole family about a family matter..plus he still is at a loss about how to fix the situation...hence the curt behavior.

He was a wrong to expect Ishita to blindly support him, wrong of being a stupid jerk for saying those things to her...but I that's RKB for you...the guy who wears his heart on his sleeve.

-Gan- thumbnail
14th Anniversary Thumbnail Sparkler Thumbnail + 3
Posted: 11 years ago
#84

Originally posted by: RomComFan

Res...for taking it out on the one who always had your back, rather then talking it out. 😔

---EDIT---

G... thanks for the pic and post I really needed it. The episode, the episode just left me so disappointed. I'm a little sad, a lot disappointed and very apprehensive. My thoughts are a bit all over the place today so I hope you will indulge me. I am not going to go into who is right or wrong, because they both had their points. For me, I think it came down to the place from which they were taking their positions on this issue. Raman was looking at it, as you said, from the place of wanting to protect his family and save his mom from her GKC fever and making the best decision he could. But Ishita, who generally takes the same vantage point, looked at the issue form the POV of Sarika and the baby. Therein lies the problem and the disagreement.

Ishita

After everything she said, I think there is also a deeper reason, an unconscious reason for Ishita's current support of Sarika,especially after the words that were said to her yesterday. Since she found out about her infertility, Ishita has been judged and branded over and over again by society and now even her family; and by this I am not just talking about the ridiculous GKC rants but I also consider the silence during yesterday as acceptance of those terms by the Bhallas. And in Sarika she sees another woman judged and branded by society because of her womb and childbearing capabilities.

First the Bhallas (most of them) didn't want Sarika because she wasn't good enough and was considered cheap, and now that they have no option they are turning to her- not that they think any more of her now mind you, it's just that only she can help and give them the heir they want. Consider this situation with what Ishita faced, first society ridiculed and judged her for her infertility and mocked her attempts to create the life she wanted through adoption (including Raman for a moment) and her bond with Ru then when they (the Bhallas) had no choice they turned to her, again not out of any great affection for her but because though her they could get custody of their heiress.

For Ishita at least there was the purity of Ru's love for her... for Sarika... what? Ishita's life improved and was enriched by her marriage mostly because of Ru, even the friendship and love that was born of the marriage was thanks in part to their Ru. But for Sarika- how will her life change or improve in this marriage? What will she get except a family that tolerates her and a man she no longer trusts? Yes, ofcourse they too could have a great love story, but this is not the way about it. And what does Sarika have to hold on to until this love story comes- Ishita had Ru's love, is the love of her baby, the only reason they are willing to accept her, enough? It's not quite the same , the love of an infant for a mother a a desperate for affection 6 year old for her mother I think...

Raman

RKB is completely in character and between a rock and a hard place, I get that, I get him-but it seems to me he doesn't want to understand Ishita. He knows her position, he sees the rightness in it but doesn't want to understand it because if he does then he's got to readjust his thinking. He values ISHRU but right now , as always, he is putting the good of the family before even perhaps his own happiness and pushing for them as she often does. But at some point he has to choose his own happiness, they both do.

The Family

Really what bothered me today was the Bhallas. Not Raman, but his family. Raman atleast understands his wife, though he refuses to acknowledge it- they don't even try. How utterly selfish they are. 😡 Their spectatorship reminded me of when Shagun instigated the fight between ISHRA about Mihir and just stood back and watched. These two are fighting it out for them, as always and they are saying nothing? What? are they staying out of it? Now? When these two bend over backwards to help them sort out their crap they can't step in and try to top this from going too far when they know it's for them? Ridiculous.

Yea okay, tomorrow they will all come up with some cutesy plan to bring them together and give them a nice Holi before the A-bomb drops...so what? This is the same stupid cycle over and over again. They are draining the life and love out of this couple and I am sick of it. ISHRA need to stand up and stop fighting with each other for the family and start fighting with the family for themselves...and if it takes a separation, Shagun's demand and its consequences or a blast from Ishu's past for it to happen I am okay with that. Bring it on. It can't come fast enough as far as I am concerned.😊

I am not sure if this makes sense, but in my head this does... At the end of the day I know he loves her and she him and I know that he can't see her hurt but he keeps hurting her over and over agin, almost deliberately , and breaking almost every promisse he made in his vows to her... all for the sake of family. And maybe what they both need is a good shock, whatever the means to make them realize that they can't keep putting themselves last.

Okay... after all that I need some cheering up here are a few GIFs to remind us of the times what was going on this time last year...

..😳


..And some ISHRARU moments... which will apparently get rare these days..😭😭





Anu ...You make sense 100% and truly get the frustration you have expressed. And the part in @bold...I would love that too. Between the complexities of their family's issues, they are getting drained as the way it works everyone looks at them to make everything alright as they have a nature and track record of doing that...and this time their understanding is getting affected and from Shagun's words ...it looks like their relationship is really going to go through some serious trials and tribulations...
-Gan- thumbnail
14th Anniversary Thumbnail Sparkler Thumbnail + 3
Posted: 11 years ago
#85

Originally posted by: krikumar.91

So, we are on the same page now...😆

Anyways, drama is reaching its peak soon... In between , we have breather in the form of Holi and lollipop romance... 😉

Raman is going to commit another mistake now... He's going to sign some papers which is going to take him away from his daughter too... His life has been totally messed up yaar... He needs time to deal with it... And Ishita will eventually become his support system in this battle against Shagun...

Yeh barter system (Adi for Ruhi) drama toh TRP ke liye hi hoga but i want a message at the end... Adi must start seeing the evil side of his loving mom and Raman must start realising the value of Ruhi...Puttar ka yeh ajeeb aadat hai... Unless he's pushed to the edge, he never realises the value of people whom he loves...

So, redemption is on its way... Just hope that cv's deal with it in a sensible manner...



I dont think we're because our main disagreement was about him not speaking up for his wife (completely out of character) and also giving in to Toshiji's whims...while they addressed the Romi situation partially today...the former cannot be undone.

As you know I dont comment about future tracks, I respond to what's shown. So I'll react to those when those are shown.

-K.13- thumbnail
11th Anniversary Thumbnail Sparkler Thumbnail Networker 1 Thumbnail
Posted: 11 years ago
#86

Originally posted by: GanBarunFan



Anu ...You make sense 100% and truly get the frustration you have expressed. And the part in @bold...I would love that too. Between the complexities of their family's issues, they are getting drained as the way it works everyone looks at them to make everything alright as they have a nature and track record of doing that...and this time their understanding is getting affected and from Shagun's words ...it looks like their relationship is really going to go through some serious trials and tribulations...


Popping in for a quick study break!

About this idea of their family's expectation of them...it's something Paru & I started to discuss in the context of leaving the house. If just Ishita & Ruhi left to make a stance, Raman would come to value them more (and very quickly) but it won't solve anything. Their family now has very unrealistic expectations of them. Anytime sh*t hits the fan, it's time to call Raman and/or Ishita in.

What's equally disturbing about both the Bhalla & Iyer family is no one has shown any concern about what Shagun said about Ishita & Raman's relationship. For a couple so clearly in love, how can their families lack any sense of introspection to realize that they are partially responsible for the lack of progress in Ishita & Raman's relationship.

Ishita & Raman both love too deeply and that's why they can't tell their families 'no.' And how could we expect them to? Their lives are so centered around their families, and it's in their basic character sketches to love and protect fiercely. It's the Bhalla (and even Iyer) family's job to realize what a toll their drama is taking on Ishita & Raman.

What happened to the scheming mother-in-laws & father-in-laws from their anniversary? For the first time in a while, they actually prioritized Ishita & Raman even though things weren't a walk in the cake at home. Suddenly more crap has happened, and they've lost their priorities.

It should be Mr. & Mrs. Bhallas job to help straighten out their kids lives. Not Raman and Ishita. They need to free them of some of the burden and soon.

___

@Gan & @Aun - the edited pictures & GIFs of last year's Holi episode are AWESOME and really refreshing after today's episode! I may or may not rewatch that episode before I go to bed tonight!
I love seeing #Sassy Biwi & #Hotwa Angry Puttar (☺️)
-K.13- thumbnail
11th Anniversary Thumbnail Sparkler Thumbnail Networker 1 Thumbnail
Posted: 11 years ago
#87

Originally posted by: avni_19

RES

I just read two to three spoilers regarding Holi... An OLV is also out... By connecting with the OLV, I feel spoilers are right! IshRa C n C gonna happen in BEHOSH State! Unacceptable CVs! Not excited.. Agar pure hosh mei ho toh, phir dekhlenge!😉


@Bold - OH GOD NO.
Please no. No Behoshi.
That's so cliche (and not the good kind)...




This happened in Saath Nibana Saathiya & the male lead forgot & the female lead ended up pregnant. 😡 After having to witness that fiasco, I was SO over the idea of a couple's first time being on holi. If they've done it before and are romantic - then hell, drink that bhang & make merry! 😆

PLEASE - While I never thought I would say this... CVs, PLEASE go back to being SCARED OF THE BIG C!!

Edited by krishy13 - 11 years ago
-Gan- thumbnail
14th Anniversary Thumbnail Sparkler Thumbnail + 3
Posted: 11 years ago
#88

Originally posted by: Eyes-Wide-Shut

"So it's true, when all is said and done, grief is the price we pay for love."

- E A. Bucchianeri

I have to study so I will be back to update but I must say this:
I get it that puttar is stuck between a rock and a hard place but this when you become an adult and share your problems with the one who stands by you no matter what, the one you have failed to protect, the one who you have let down again and again..only because you have taken her for granted. I am sorry I love puttar, I really do but like all the Bhallas, puttar has taken Ishita for granted and the biggest tragic flaw of ishita is her unfathomable love for Ruhi.

The Bhallas know that no matter what they do to Ishita or how they treat her, she will be there by them because of her love for Ruhi. I have never felt bad for a character as much as I feel bad for Ishita. Puttar is flawed and so is the missus but Puttar needs to SPEAK to biwi and not scream whereas missus needs to STAND UP for herself and not take the verbal abuse hurled at her.

#Puttar prove me wrong...PLEASE
#Be the man you once were that we all fell in love with
#I still love you puttar but I am disappointed in myself for loving you
#Toshiji is a lost cause

May I suggest something drastic, I want Ishita to move out with Ruhi, not to teach anyone lesson but I want these two just leave this madness where no one seems to care for them, I want them to be happy with each other.






@red your Puttar will die without them...only parts in his life where things are how it should be for him...everything else is falling apart. And taking for granted, that's kinda man syndrome and Ishita has to let him know it's NOT OKAY..even today what did she do, run after him when he's leaving...She needs to stop being so nice and maybe get into that pre-marriage and pre-love avatar of Ishita..who gave RKB back every single time he acted like a jerk.
Edited by GanBarunFan - 11 years ago
-K.13- thumbnail
11th Anniversary Thumbnail Sparkler Thumbnail Networker 1 Thumbnail
Posted: 11 years ago
#89
Also last thought before I go back to studying...

Today in his anger, Raman said some things about the love in their marriage...I wonder if that was some type of reaction (insecurity?) to the public tamasha Shagun made of their marriage the night before...

idk just a thought b/c the idea of love in marriage (which I can't exactly remember at the moment) fit in the core of the argument a bit but he made it personal personal instead of about Mihir/Rinki, Romi/Sarika...idk though..

...this likely is just the ramblings of someone who has been staring at a computer for like 9 hrs now..
Edited by krishy13 - 11 years ago
-Gan- thumbnail
14th Anniversary Thumbnail Sparkler Thumbnail + 3
Posted: 11 years ago
#90

Originally posted by: Veeann

Ok, here's the thing. I don't like conflict ( except when it comes to #PuttarWars) and I don't like disagreeing with people and all, but even though Puttar was being an absolute ass for yelling at biwi in front of everyone, even though blaming Ishita for the Mihir Rinky wedding makes no sense, and even though I can't understand how Ishita has "meri zindagi barbaad kardi" for Puttar, I still do get where he was coming from today.


RKB has as always, taken on the role of Protector and Defender. He sees his family in distress and so he flies in like Superman to the rescue. He has decided Romi's barren swimmers are one more burden on him that he needs to find a way to resolve, and he has decided to do it by taking the action he thinks is the best for everyone, including Sarika.

But like Superman needs his Lois Lane, so Puttar needs his Ishita. Only Lois is no simpering doormat - she is righteous and she has a voice and she shows Puttar the mirror and sometimes, it's uncomfortable to confront what is in the mirror.

And actually, RKBs characterisation hasn't been changed. He has always acted impulsively and he has not hesitated to be unscrupulous either.

Remember how he tried to discredit Ishita during the initial stages of the Ruhi custody case? After first offering her a bribe, he then sent Subbu's mum to the Judge to discredit her.

And what about during Shagun's prosecution for amma's accident? He committed perjury to save his GKC from facing the consequences of his wrongdoing.

RKB is a flawed man. He loves his family and is blinded to their faults. They are his kryptonite. They, and especially his GKC, weaken him. He sees Ishita as his strength now. But he expects his strength to have his back NO MATTER WHAT. Today he is hurting from having to let his son go, from seeing his sister humiliated, from finding out his brothers issues, from his mothers melodrama. So he is taking his anger and frustration out on the one person he believes should support him no matter what.

Is Puttar right? Of course not. Ishita needs to tell him so and if she needs to leave with Ruhi to get RKB to acknowledge the value she and Ruhi hold in his life, then so be it.

I fell in love with Puttar not despite, but because of, his flaws. Do I cringe when he gets abusive? Absolutely. But see how he behaved with Ashok today. He has always been this way - he speaks without considering the consequences and he accepts no POV but his own. Biwi is his polar opposite, and that is why they have such combustible chemistry. But that is also why they will always have a degree of conflict.

For me, Puttar today was in character. He believes HE has the haq to yell at biwi. But it was yesterday, when he kept quiet when Shagun was yelling abuse at Ishita that made no sense to me. Because while Puttar believes he can dish it out to Ishita, he has never stood by and let others do it.

Phew, can't believe I actually tried to do an analysis. And that too on characters the CVs chop and change at whim.

Hope I haven't offended anyone. Hugs to all

#PuttarAndBiwi NeedToTalk
#ILovePuttar Still



Vee you explained so much better what I wanted to say!...You're a writer and I suck at writing. Thanks ..I understood Puttar very well today...and I agree he was very much in character today.

wonderfully written.👏

Related Topics

Ye Hai Mohabbatein thumbnail

Posted by: Devanshi14 ¡ 1 months ago

Happy Holi From Raman Ishita

Expand ▼
Top

Stay Connected with IndiaForums!

Be the first to know about the latest news, updates, and exclusive content.

Add to Home Screen!

Install this web app on your iPhone for the best experience. It's easy, just tap and then "Add to Home Screen".