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MoronsKiMallika

@MoronsKiMallika

Sparkler

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Posted: 11 years ago

Door kahin ek aam ki bagiya.

Far away somewhere is an orchard of mangoes

Bagiya mein hai thandi chhaaon

In the orchard is a cool shade

Chhaaon mein ek kachcha rasta

In the shade is an unpaved road

Raste mein pyaara sa gaaon

On the road is a lovely village

Gaaon mein ek chhota sa ghar

In the village is a small home

Ghar mein ek ujla sa aangan

In the home is a bright courtyard

Aangan mein chandan ka palna

In the courtyard is a sandlewood cradle

Palne mein chanda sa munna

In the cradle is a moon-like child

Munne ki aankhon mein nindiya

The the child's eyes is sleep

Door kahin ek aam ki bagiya

Far away somewhere is an orchard of mangoes

Bagiya mein hai thandi chhaaon

In the orchard is a cool shade

Chhaaon mein ek kachcha rasta

In the shade is an unpaved road

Raste mein pyaara sa gaaon

On the road is a lovely village

Neele neele aasmaan mein taaron ka hai ek nagar

In the blue blue sky is a city of stars

Jagmag jagmag ek taare par ek shehzaadi ka hai ghar

One one sparkling star is a princess's house

Chupke chupke raat ko uthke dhyaan se dekhe koi agar

If one secretly wakes at night and looks carefully

Jhilmil jhilmil hai taarein mein us shehzaadi ke zevar

In the stars is that princess's jewelry, twinkling

Shehzaadi ithlaaye, shehzaadi yeh gaaye

The princess gestures, the princess sings this

Door kahin ek aam ki bagiya

Far away somewhere is an orchard of mangoes

Aadhi raat jab ho jaati hai, jab duniya so jaati hai

When it becomes midnight, when the world is asleep

Taaron se shehzaadi utarke munne ke ghar aati hai

Getting down from the stars, the princess goes to the child's home

Meethe meethe saare sapne apne saath voh laati hai

With her she brings all sweet sweet dreams

Sote munne ki palkon pe yeh sapne voh sajaati hai

Upon the lashes of the sleeping child she adorns these dreams

Sirhaane voh aaye, haule se voh gaaye

She comes to the head of the bed, softly she sings

Door kahin ek aam ki bagiya

Far away somewhere is an orchard of mangoes

- Zubeida

The above mentioned song is from the motion picture 'Zubeida'. This song summarizes the story of Zubeida and her son Riyaz . In the film, Zubeida leaves her baby son with her parents and goes away to live a fairytale life with a Rajasthani Prince. Basically, she claims to love him , but she chooses her own happiness over him and leaves him behind. Zubeida's son sees his mother as this fairy princess of dreams who visits him only when he is sleeping - he loves his mother and he holds no grudge against her for abandoning him.

Today's episode is the same story with an opposite version. Maala is a Zubeida but Rudra is not Riyaz. Yes, he has seen his mother just like this as is mentioned in the song , but he has seen her as a dark princess who abandoned him. If he does not have the heart to forgive her , he simply does not have it.

Sometimes, forgiveness is pretty useless. Its neither of the use to the sinner nor to the victim. Valid reason? Sometimes, the sinner has sinned so much and burnt so much in the condemnation purgatory that no amount of forgiveness can take away the pain of poetic justice. And sometimes, the victim has suffered so much that all pain has ceased and numbness has set in - and to ask him/her for forgiveness is like asking a desert to turn the colour of the ocean... but then, RR is fiction and that too Indian fiction where morals and greatness come first and emotions and angst must bow down to them.

Maafi toh hamaare yahaan aisse maangte hainn jaise aaloo-tamaatar khareed rahhe ho. 😆

P.S- Brownie points to the BG guy. Good music today and it did not mar the scenes at all. 😳

Edited by MoronsKiMallika - 11 years ago

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JJKKL

@JJKKL

Dazzler

+ 2

Posted: 11 years ago

I have two quotes for you MKM

"True forgiveness is when you can say, "Thank you for that experience."
Oprah Winfrey

"There is no such thing as a "broken family." Family is family, and is not determined by marriage certificates, divorce papers, and adoption documents. Families are made in the heart. The only time family becomes null is when those ties in the heart are cut. If you cut those ties, those people are not your family. If you make those ties, those people are your family. And if you hate those ties, those people will still be your family because whatever you hate will always be with you."
C. JoyBell C.

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Cute_Ash

@Cute_Ash

Stunner

+ 8

Posted: 11 years ago

The Scars tht Mala left are so deep tht no matter how much even Paro tries she will neva be able to remove them completely neither from his face nor his heart..Paro is just tht ray of light in the darkest corners of his life and he is ready to embrace the light..Paro may engulf the darkness to some extent but the 15 years of angst he has been living is inseparable from himm..

If Mala thinks she can walk in and sing Heli Maro he is gonna sleep in her lap she can just go bak to Thakur's arms..

Maafi Alooo Le lo Kaanda Le Lo Maafi Le LO Maafi de do😆

Yes Bg guy spared us coz he lyks his weekends peaceful..

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asmi279

@asmi279

Dazzler

Posted: 11 years ago

Hey MKM..awesome post..

I m pretty upset abt mala..bt hv ranted quite a lot elsewhr on the forum, so wl spare ur thread :)

N today ws the only day wen I actually noticed the bg music marring the scenes :P pehle kabhi nahi samajh ata tha..may be I hv started noticing these finer details nw :)

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Hope

@Hope

Rocker

+ 5

Posted: 11 years ago

----UnReserved-----

Vicky Sa, how do you manage to come up with perfect and beautiful songs for every situation...If Rudra pain broke my heart, your song brought a lump in my throat. Beautiful...👏

So true, some wounds are soo deep and some sins look soo cruel that one is left to think if Forgiveness really matters anymore...That if it will solve anything... But I feel forgiveness is important, very important for the victim than to the culprit... When you forgive, that hatred and anger which the victim carries around with him/her will leave him...The pain and hurt might still be very much there but being free of anger, vengeance, hatred will definitely help the victim to move on to a better life. Pain and Hurt are two things that can be reduced or forgotten only by LOVE. Now that said, forgiving someone who hurt you very deeply is not as easy as I wrote it, it takes lot of courage, strength, great heart and a very strong will of wanting to move on from that baggage...

Every person has his or her breaking point to suffering, his/her way of handling and coping with the pain, and also his/her way of forgiving/not forgiving someone who had hurt or betrayed you. Rudra had his breaking point at a very tender age with no one to help him cope with it or to show him how to handle it, he faced the betrayal of his own mother and was told that his mother never loved him. No child should go through that humiliation and feel unloved at any point.

Bluntly put, Mala failed very badly as a mother... Now it is totally up to Rudra to decide whether he wants to forgive her or not... I personally feel he has to make her feel the taste of hell he faced due to her. Forgiveness is great and it liberates you from the extra baggage you always carry with you but what do one do if the same resentment, suffering, baggage, all of it, made you who you are... If these feelings have become a part of your identity????your life???? How do one take these feelings out of his/her life???

Vicky sa, like you said... this is a fictional show and Rudra will forgive Mala for the story to move on... I just hope CV's don't rush the track and within a week show Rudra forgiving or becoming soft towards Mala... Until, unless she has a very strong story to support her actions. And your line about "Forgiveness and tamatar" very true..😆😆😆

To my surprise and satisfaction, Mala at least acknowledged that she wronged Rudra... Thank God! for that. Or else the way she was smiling and saying, 'ithna chota sa tha' made me go, 'Seriously lady, get some brain." for her stupidity.😉

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Pixiepixel11

@Pixiepixel11

Stunner

+ 43

Posted: 11 years ago

Bang on post vicky baisa.
The lines of the song are apt for Rudra.
And I agree with on the last para...
In indian telly shows maafi is like aaloo-pyaanz..
Milne mein der nhi lagti chahe kitna bada hi gunaah kyu na ho.
I just wish though I am sure will not be fulfilled that RR cvs can prove me wrong in this context of maafi.
Thanks again for dis fab. post baisa.

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_AngryBird_

@_AngryBird_

Rocker

Posted: 11 years ago

Great post..

Agree with u...👍🏼

Sometimes, there wont be any use of forgiving..True that..

Agar maaf kar bhi diya, pure dil se nahi kar paate..

The deepness of the pain will never let one to forgive completely..

I hope same goes with rudra, he can't forgive his mom...

In the long run in case, if he forgive her, that will not be whole hearted definetely.. Rudra has suffered a lott and 15 years of his beautiful childhood were lost with tears n pain, only because of her.. If he forgive his mom though, those years can't be brought back and there is no use in forgiving her now at this moment, when he has happiness in his life as paro

I personally want rudra not to forgive her, and Paro to be on her pati side..I'm equally irritated 😡 with her tears and love for her so called son, whom she left years back leaving him behind all alone...

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antiquegold

@antiquegold

Voyager

+ 2

Posted: 11 years ago

I remember this movie Vicky! It had Karisma Kapoor, Rekha and Manoj Bajpai!

It was a sad movie!

Oh well! He had to let it out anyway, and Maala had to wake up and smell the coffee!

But you know, Vicky... She is back! She let herself be brought back. I would consider that a big redeeming factor. What was once lost, is now found, you know and there is such a thing as Amazing Grace!

It is humanly impossible to shoulder this enormous burden of forgiveness and being forgiven. Paro was right when she asked Bholenaath to give shakti to Rudra as he disappeared into his man cave!

I totally loved the level headed Paro today, and the fact that Laila was not able to hijack anything between mother, son and daughter in law! I also loved that Rudra went straight to his father, his fellow victim in this shameful story of betrayal and abandonment and now, the painful road to redemption!

Paro was bang on in her dealings with Rudra today. She will bring him back from the brink.

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nancynair

@nancynair

Voyager

Posted: 11 years ago

So true Vicky you have made such a wonderful reference to Zubeida

👏

But Mala does not deserve his forgiveness - bus kehadiya

How can she be so insensitive ?

I so wish they don't show him forgiving her and I hope Paro Baisa is a little more sensitive to her pati than her maasa

I am feeling Rudras pain so much that I don't want anyone to intrude and give him lecture as to how he should feel seriously Let him be

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asmi279

@asmi279

Dazzler

Posted: 11 years ago

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okay..cant resist..hv to tell u wat I think..writing wat I wrote elsewhr:

he doesnt owe anything to her..not forgiveness, not sympathy..

I m so upset with her..ok, I cn accept that may be life wid dilsher ws nt easy, she hd to leave, cdnt take rudra with her..ok..but to live without even trying to see her son once in 15 yrs?? Chup chupke bhi nahin! U hv no idea hw he looks like? U wdnt recognize him if he walked past u? U were so blissful in ur own world, that u didnt think fr 15 yrs wat d poor child must b gng thru? Nw that ur bubble hs bursted, u think shayad maine galti kar di? Shayad? Ab yaad aaya kitna tadpa hoga, tarsa hoga?

sorry baisas, I knw I m ranting n being judgemental prematurely, bt aaj ke epi ke baad cdnt control..she definitely doesnt deserve his forgiveness..

bt still paro wl try to make him reconcile wid mala..bcoz she's his wife..she knows wat the poison of hatred does to him..mala doesnt deserve forgiveness, yet paro wl insist on it fr his sake..so he cn heal n move on..so excited to see the track play out :)

U knw wat I love the most abt RR..the open, straightfwd no-nonsense communication..u hurt me, I wl cm n tell u, yell at u, ask fr questions, tell u hw much u damaged me..no chupe vaar n emotional manipulations..never seen that before on indian tv..brilliant stuff!

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