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Originally posted by: lovely_lady
There's definitely a double standard, I won't disagree there. But the situation isn't that simple either.
I don't think she doubts that Parmeet was at fault. She mentioned how it takes two to tango, and in that sentence, she blamed Ishita for the conflict between Parmeet and Ishita. Thus, she thinks that something did happen between them (i.e. molestation). And as for her telling Raman he could've handled it a different way, hmmm. I kind of saw it as her being angry at him for making it such a public event. Raman yelled super loud, beat Parmeet up, and got him publicly arrested. He's not wrong in doing that of course. But it's so insulting. Not only to Parmeet, but also Simmi and she witnessed it all happening. I assumed that she probably wanted Raman and other family members to give a talking to Parmeet and warn him. She's belongs to an older, more close minded generation that favours men over women. Therefore, she probably thought that if Parmeet got a warning of something, he would've been "fixed" and Simmi's marriage would've remained intact. That's why she was upset with Raman because he made it such an insulting public event (and rightfully did so) and kind of ruined any chances of reconciliation.As for her being angry if somebody molested Simmi or Rinki, its important to keep in mind WHO molested. In Ishita's case, if a stranger had tried to molest her, I'm sure that Toshi would've backed Ishita 100%. But the entire situation is complicated by the fact being its Simmi's husband. Obviously the sane thing to do would be to support the victim. But she's not being sane right now, nor is Simmi. But I don't think she's siding with Parmeet 100% either. Her main priority is to side with her daughter whom she's known the longest and loves the most. And unfortunately, that seemingly puts her on Parmeet's side, relative to Ishita's side.Also, I'm not quite sure if I agree with the argument that a DIL can never be a daughter. Freaking Ishita has only been in the family for 3 MONTHS. That's a very short stay. Of course she's still at the DIL status. They barely know her that well. Of course a DIL is not going to become a daughter the moment she marries into the family. The way a DIL becomes a daughter, is through time. Time that allows the family and DIL to interact, understand each other, and form a close bonding. 3 Months is barely enough time to do that. Therefore, I don't think that this track is showing how a DIL can never be a daughter. It just doesn't apply to the show yet (with Toshi and Ishita) in my opinion.But anyways, so yes, while there is a double standard, its not too difficult to imagine her acting out of character. In fact, I think her character's reaction is super realistic and Shahnaz is doing a great job in making it seem authentic.
Originally posted by: lovely_lady
There's definitely a double standard, I won't disagree there. But the situation isn't that simple either.
I don't think she doubts that Parmeet was at fault. She mentioned how it takes two to tango, and in that sentence, she blamed Ishita for the conflict between Parmeet and Ishita. Thus, she thinks that something did happen between them (i.e. molestation). And as for her telling Raman he could've handled it a different way, hmmm. I kind of saw it as her being angry at him for making it such a public event. Raman yelled super loud, beat Parmeet up, and got him publicly arrested. He's not wrong in doing that of course. But it's so insulting. Not only to Parmeet, but also Simmi and she witnessed it all happening. I assumed that she probably wanted Raman and other family members to give a talking to Parmeet and warn him. She's belongs to an older, more close minded generation that favours men over women. Therefore, she probably thought that if Parmeet got a warning of something, he would've been "fixed" and Simmi's marriage would've remained intact. That's why she was upset with Raman because he made it such an insulting public event (and rightfully did so) and kind of ruined any chances of reconciliation.As for her being angry if somebody molested Simmi or Rinki, its important to keep in mind WHO molested. In Ishita's case, if a stranger had tried to molest her, I'm sure that Toshi would've backed Ishita 100%. But the entire situation is complicated by the fact being its Simmi's husband. Obviously the sane thing to do would be to support the victim. But she's not being sane right now, nor is Simmi. But I don't think she's siding with Parmeet 100% either. Her main priority is to side with her daughter whom she's known the longest and loves the most. And unfortunately, that seemingly puts her on Parmeet's side, relative to Ishita's side.Also, I'm not quite sure if I agree with the argument that a DIL can never be a daughter. Freaking Ishita has only been in the family for 3 MONTHS. That's a very short stay. Of course she's still at the DIL status. They barely know her that well. Of course a DIL is not going to become a daughter the moment she marries into the family. The way a DIL becomes a daughter, is through time. Time that allows the family and DIL to interact, understand each other, and form a close bonding. 3 Months is barely enough time to do that. Therefore, I don't think that this track is showing how a DIL can never be a daughter. It just doesn't apply to the show yet (with Toshi and Ishita) in my opinion.But anyways, so yes, while there is a double standard, its not too difficult to imagine her acting out of character. In fact, I think her character's reaction is super realistic and Shahnaz is doing a great job in making it seem authentic.
Originally posted by: lovely_lady
There's definitely a double standard, I won't disagree there. But the situation isn't that simple either.
I don't think she doubts that Parmeet was at fault. She mentioned how it takes two to tango, and in that sentence, she blamed Ishita for the conflict between Parmeet and Ishita. Thus, she thinks that something did happen between them (i.e. molestation). And as for her telling Raman he could've handled it a different way, hmmm. I kind of saw it as her being angry at him for making it such a public event. Raman yelled super loud, beat Parmeet up, and got him publicly arrested. He's not wrong in doing that of course. But it's so insulting. Not only to Parmeet, but also Simmi and she witnessed it all happening. I assumed that she probably wanted Raman and other family members to give a talking to Parmeet and warn him. She's belongs to an older, more close minded generation that favours men over women. Therefore, she probably thought that if Parmeet got a warning of something, he would've been "fixed" and Simmi's marriage would've remained intact. That's why she was upset with Raman because he made it such an insulting public event (and rightfully did so) and kind of ruined any chances of reconciliation.As for her being angry if somebody molested Simmi or Rinki, its important to keep in mind WHO molested. In Ishita's case, if a stranger had tried to molest her, I'm sure that Toshi would've backed Ishita 100%. But the entire situation is complicated by the fact being its Simmi's husband. Obviously the sane thing to do would be to support the victim. But she's not being sane right now, nor is Simmi. But I don't think she's siding with Parmeet 100% either. Her main priority is to side with her daughter whom she's known the longest and loves the most. And unfortunately, that seemingly puts her on Parmeet's side, relative to Ishita's side.Also, I'm not quite sure if I agree with the argument that a DIL can never be a daughter. Freaking Ishita has only been in the family for 3 MONTHS. That's a very short stay. Of course she's still at the DIL status. They barely know her that well. Of course a DIL is not going to become a daughter the moment she marries into the family. The way a DIL becomes a daughter, is through time. Time that allows the family and DIL to interact, understand each other, and form a close bonding. 3 Months is barely enough time to do that. Therefore, I don't think that this track is showing how a DIL can never be a daughter. It just doesn't apply to the show yet (with Toshi and Ishita) in my opinion.But anyways, so yes, while there is a double standard, its not too difficult to imagine her acting out of character. In fact, I think her character's reaction is super realistic and Shahnaz is doing a great job in making it seem authentic.