Yeh Laher Jisme Dono Behte Hai..!!

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Helloo YHM-ianz..😃😃😃... Even though huge drama is goin on in the show on Parmeet matter,amidst tht CVs r also beautifully showing the slow transition from Ruhi's parents wala IshRa to husband-wife wala IshRa..!!

My topic title-"Yeh Laher Jisme Dono Behte Hai..
!!
"(a line from the song "Kuch Toh Hua Hai"..)is used here to indicate how in this current track,BOTH Raman & Ishita ARE GOING IN A FLOW in their relation on both being hit by WAVE OF LOVE..!!

Ishita-From Ruhi's Mom To Raman's Wife

Before current track started,v hv seen various instances where v did got glimpses of Ishita-The Wife of Raman...But majority of them had kahin na kahin THE RUHI CONNECTION reason being more on limelight...!! But all those lil moments of being Raman's wife were slowly settin up the wifey feelings in Ishu's heart..!!

Post current track beginning,v could see how much the wifey feelings in her were gettin stronger the way those came out coz of Parmeet fiasco..!! Last week sat epi(26th Apr 2014)and this week mon epi(28th Apr 2014) showed how much Ishu hv gone ahead in her relation with Raman..!! In last week sat epi,post Parmeet fiasco incident,Ishu ws totally petrified..She badly NEEDED someone's support,love,care,help..!! First person she thought ws her mom..!! But then she scrapped off the idea as she felt its nt the right decision...Then the NEXT PERSON she remembered to go n approach for help ws Raman and NOT ppl lik Bala or Vanditha or Mihika..!! And that SAYS A LOT..!! When a woman is in trouble or very very disturbed,she would try to find solace in ppl she LOVE a lot,TRUST a lot and share a great understanding..!! Its very natural nyone rememberin their parents first at times of trouble/when u r disturbed..But if not parents,the next person generally ppl will contact will be their spouses..!! Bhale hi theres still time left for love to get properly blossomed b/w IshRa,she approachin Raman jst aftr her parents indicate only thing tht how much SINCERELY she hv started seein herself as HIS WIFE..!! When she tried to call Raman,she couldn get connected to him..!! She din made fuss abt it as she felt as hes on a business trip he will bc n also she shouldn bother him n tell such things over phone..!! So she decided she wont call him,yet in a corner of her heart,her wish to talk to Raman ws STILL PREVAILING..!! V did saw how Ruhi tried to cheer her up..!! But there IS a difference b/w how ur husband affect n hw ur child affect u..!! Evn though Ishu got lil calmed down post Ruhi's cheer up sessions,the inner tsunami of emotions ws not dieyin out..!! And when v saw IshRa's phone convo in mon epi-THERE u could see HOW MUCH CONTENT,SECURE n BLISSFUL Ishu felt JUST ON TALKING to Raman..!! Raman se baat karne ki wajah se she ws LITERALLY able to temporariy forget all her probs...She evn had a peaceful sleep coz of talkin to Raman,which looked quite impossible a few min back then..!!

Ishu Darling..me askin u again...Woman hv u got any idea-how much u r MOVING ON in this relation with ur THE RAAVAN KUMAR?😆😉..Kahan,durin early days,where she considered this marriage as a compromise for Ruhi n told she "wont expect nything" frm Raman aur na hi she would give anything.🥱.!! Aur ab dekho Kahan she HERSELF is LONGING for Raman's support when she BADLY needed the love n support frm family on Parmeet matter......!!

Shayad Yahi Toh Pyaar Hai..rite somebody's ki Jhansi Ki Rani?😆😉...And this time,yeh pyaar is ABOVE "sirf ruhi ke liye" angle..!!😆😆...

Raman-From Ruhi's Dad To Ishita's Husband

Unlike Ishu,Raman had ALREADY started showing stronger signals of being in love with Ishu evn before current track started..!! When current track started,Raman ws in Mumbai for business purpose n Ishu ws there at Delhi..!! And this GEOGRAPHICAL DISTANCE b/w IshRa ACTUALLY REDUCED mental distance b/w IshRa..!! In last week sat epi v c saw Raman ke most of the talks mein Ishita ka zikr hona directly or indirectly,in the party @mumbai& tht ws a treat to watch..!! In this week monday epi,IshRa phone convo and Raman-Mihir phone convo proved HOW MUCH Raman-the INSENSITIVE JERK has transformed to a SENSITIVE CARING HUSBAND..!! Raman ws SPOT ON to realize somethin wrong with Ishu even WITHOUT she sayin anythin to him..!! And as he wanted to knw the truth,he made Mihir to check on Ishu matter..!! If Ishu ws "just" Ruhi's mom for him,toh yeh sab BILKUL hi nahi hota..!! But sach vo nahi..Sach yahi hai ki Raman ko parwa hai Ishu ki..!! His GENUINE concern n worry for Ishu could be CLEARLY SEEN in his face while he ws tellin Mihir to go to bhallas home asap n enquire abt the matter..!!

But tonites epi holds a lot lot of importance from Raman's point of view..!! Even after Mihir saying Ishu is fine(as per Mihir😡),Raman ws STILL NOT convinced...aww..!! He ws STILL desperate to talk to her n be actually convinced tht she IS FINE..!! But as her phone ws nt gettin connected,he ws majorly gettin affected..!!

Aur isi beech aata hai our "indirect" IshRa cupid-Ashok ka entry..😆
😆...Usko mirchi lag gaya tha on knwin Raman ws with Shagun last nite..!! Evn though Shagun clearly said Raman ws there only for Adi,Dumbo Ashok toh maanne se na raha..😆😆..Toh chale aaye mooh uthaake apni hi band bajwaane by Raman..😆😆... And as expected Raman ws bajoyin him on his pathetic delusional doubt tht Raman had still feelings for Shagun..!! But the moment Ashok bought IshRa relation on a bad light,THERE came THE BEST MOMENT of tonites epi..!! Raman said false is Ashok-Shagun's relation and truth is Raman-Ishita's relation..!! But Ashok still had guts to say tht all knw IshRa's marriage ws a compromise or deal to get Ruhi's custody..!! And wht Raman said agains tht ws TOTALLY PRICELESS..!! Raman said YES,indeed the marriage WAS A DEAL FIRST...BUT NOW it has converted to a MEANINGFUL RELATION..😲😲🥳🥳🥳...

OMFGGG Raman baabu KOI IDEA hai wht hv u said?Kal tak jo deal tha aaj vo rishta ban gaya?awww...My dearest Dhakkan Bhalla-i knw u may not realise this now..😆
😆..But whenvr u hv let ur subconsicous feelings for Ishu come out in limelight lik in tonites epi-v viewers r TOTALLY FLOORED..!! But dekhho..kahan use Ishu ke saath marriage karna ek SUICIDE lag raha tha before marriage aur ab dekho hw he hv started treating this relation as the MOST BEAUTIFUL VALUABLE relation of his life.....!!

Shayad Yahi Toh Pyaar Hai..rite somebody's ka Raavan Kumar?😆😉...And ofcourse his "sirf sirf sirf Ruhi ke liye" rant is ALREADY changing to "sirf sirf sirf Ishita ke liye"...Ekdum sahi track pe jaa rahe Raman Bhalla..Keep it up...😆
😉..!!

So dekha ppl kaise pyaar ke laher mein miya-biwi beh rahe hai ek doosre ki aur..😉😉..!! Aur yeh dekh ke hum viewers ka dil toh truly garden garden ho raha hai......!!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Ahhh NIKKI! You chuppi rustam 😆 humse jhoot bolke you went to go write a new topic.. but no worries I am not complaining at all cuz I ALWAYS look forward to your posts! 😳😃 ❤️

And the title you picked is PERFECT for Ishra and it suits their current phase sooo much! also is one of my favorite songs! 😳😃

So let's start from the beginning! :D

1. Completely agreed! Before this current track Ishita did here and there bring out the inner wifey but mostly where Ruhi was concerned.. there were bursts of wifeyness for Raman as well like when he burned his hand and she put ice on it or when she put balm on his back! <3 Those were typical wifey concerns but now she's changed for the good! She has ACCEPTED him as her husband no matter what.. even if she hasn't completely fallen in love with him yet. There is this underlying acceptance from both sides and I LOVE that! :D It makes their relationship SO much more special! :)

2. The fact that she wanted to call Raman after her parents did show a huge green signal that she TRUSTED him.. she knew no matter what she could be able to confide in him because at the end of the day he is HER HUSBAND. Doesn't matter what differences they have.. at the end of the day they both will come back to each other no matter what! :) And that's what happened with Ishita in Saturday's epi!

3. The phone convo was so genuine.. and that's what Ishu needed, she needed a shoulder to cry on and Raman called just like a savior to make his jhansi ki rani feel better! :) It was a beautiful scene and I loved the fact that Raman said all those things sincerely.. just exaggerated a few parts cuz Shagun was in the room but he meant every word he said. And the best part? He sensed that something was wrong with her.. THIS is where the emotional connect comes and as u said this Mumbai trip may have made their physical distance wider but definitely not their emotional distance :) that was fully intact!

4. Raman has already moved on from that Apshagun.. he had subconsciously moved on a while ago in face its just that now he's verbalizing it like he did today.. where he ADMITTED that his shaadi with Ishita was now finally a RISHTA! :) I LOVED the way he said it to Ashok and finally uss lambu ka muh band hogaya bechara devdas kahinka :P hahahaha

5. Both Ishra's transition from being Ruhi's respective Mom and Dad has come a LONG way and I'm so glad creatives are taking one step at a time to develop this absolutely beautiful relationship! And I really hope they stick with this.. because it's going to be a beautiful journey to love for Raman and Ishita! :)

6. BTW RAMAN BABUA IS IN LABH ALREADY MORE THAN ISHITA IS :P hahaha he can't get over how Ishita was talking over the phone he's SO SO worried for her and keeps on calling her! I find it sooo sweet <3 bechara is going to regret SO much once he finds out about Parmeet's truth. He won't leave ANY stone upturned to win back his jhansi ki rani :)

7. Ishu is slowly getting into that LABH phase too right now she does have expectations from Raman and DOES get affected whenever she sees or gets to know when he's with Shagun.. there is that jealousy aspect there and IM LOVING IT! :D

8. These two need each other more than anyone right now.. because they've accepted each other as husband and wife and now they're become friends which is the first step in love :) Remember pyaar dosti hai?! ;) LOLL. Both of them are so used to each other now that do pal bina ek dusre ke gavaara nahin.

9. Btw did Raman pre-pone his flight? :P cuz he was supposed to leave next day morning but he's leaving in the evening! ;) No worries he's extremely worried for his karele ka chilka..LOLL I'm not complaining though! ;)

10. LOLL last but not least aaj ka ep PROVED for the 10000th time that ASHOK IS TRULY MADLY AND DEEPLY IN LABH WITH RAMAN THAT'S IT. Even Shagun told him not to become all "Devdas" over a lost business deal 😆 little does she know that her lambu sa boyfriend is actually devdas-ing over Raman babuuu 🤣 haii in dono ki kitna tragic labh story hai! 🤣

Anywayyy and this concludes my as usual lambaaa sa ramayan! :P Hope I didn't bore you with my lame comments 😆 But you know me I can't stop my self when it comes to your posts! 😳 LABH YOU MY TSS! 🤗 JUST like Ashok labhs devdas-ing over Raman 🤣

Good night to you my love have sweet sweet Ishra/Divan dreams! 😉😆 Remember.. keep calm and DIVAN on! 😆 BYE NIKKOOO! muahhh! 🤗
Edited by -Garima- - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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This was a MUCH needed post NB darling.❤️ Can't thank you enough for making this post, because seeing some comments in regards to Raman's behaviour sooner or later I might have erupted which so TOTALLY not good. OK coming back to the post, if I were to point out the things I liked in your post, I might have to @BOLD the entire post, that's how much I agree to everything that you've pinned down. AMEN to every-single, Letter, Word, Line, Paragraph & ENTIRE post.

It's ANNOYING...very ANNOYING... Just because the spoilers are out, SOME people are overreacting with Raman's behaviour when Ishu will confront the entire family about the Pervmeet's matter. I really wanna know, what would they have done, if there were NO spoilers. It's irritating how for an episode that is yet to air, they are failing to noticing the beautiful details of the past episodes.

Firstly, Raman's CONVO with Ishu was 100% GENUINE. Yes, he did try to annoy Shagun a little but that thought lasted just .05seconds because he was was TRULY indulged in his conversation with Ishu... He did NOT fake it, he was talking to her NOT like how a Husband would, he was talking to her EXACTLY like how a Caring, Affectionate, LoveyDovey Husband would...and I believe there's MAJOR difference to the 1st type & the 2nd type of Husbands I mentioned above.

Secondly, you know the part you said, "Raman-From Ruhi's Dad to Ishita's Husband" ABSOLUTELY BANG ON. Because what Raman felt today could ONLY have been POSSIBLE in terms of being a Husband. By looking at someone face to face, their expressions and stuff will tell you how they really feel BUT even than it's not something everyone can do. Even if they see them face to face, they might tend to miss the details, for example like how Mihir, PapaJi, Vanditha, Rinky, Romi who are actually in GOOD terms with Ishu, did NOT realize that she was troubled over something. It was actually very EVIDENT in her face but yet they still could not figure it out. BUT than Raman...Raman My MAN... Being miles away from her and just by listening to her voice through merely a phone, he was able to connect to her and understand that something was bothering her. If Raman was faking it OR he was only talking to her to make Shagun feel jealous than there's NO WAY, he would have been able to realize the difference and troubled feel in Ishu's voice. AND also he was genuinely listening and talking to her. Because just a phone conversation can be put across into different contexts. Example; You know the annoying survey calls, or credit card calls we get[the one thing, every country will definitely have in common are these annoying calls],forget about those rude people BUT some of us, don't really act rude them, we politely try to tell them NO but before that we have got to listening to little summary of what they've call to talk about.. BUT do we really listen...listen to what they are saying? We do say, "hmmm, Ok" etc kinda things in the middles if they ask us anything but are we saying them because we truly understood what they said OR we just wanna get it over and done with. A CONVO doesn't mean that other party is always listening to what the another is talking about, we might be physically present there but mentally gone elsewhere. BUT Raman was both Mentally & Physically present there while talking to Ishu, which goes to show he was LISTENING to her each and every word not just through his ears BUT through his HEART as well thus being able to sense the difference.

Thirdly, Raman's CARE for his Biwi was again evident when he called up Mihir and asked him to check if everything was alright in the house and if Ishu was feeling OK and all is well. BUT even after Mihir called him to sort of confirm nothing major had happened and All is well, Raman still was NOT satisfied. After hanging up the call with Mihir, he went on to call his Biwi and when her phone was switched off, he got worried and hoped that everything was OK with her and she was FINE. Whereas in the past, he could get angry when she doesn't call but NOW he got worried. I'm sorry BUT according to me such things can NEVER be faked no matter how much you try too. So if one more time, I see someone say that Raman was acting, faking it, using Ishu to make Shagun jealous, I'm gonna turn NASTY...

Fourthly, Ishu... She probably hasn't fully understand how much she needs her Patidev in her life BUT I'm sure after the whole Pervmeet incident, she definitely will. When a Woman is faced with such indecent sexual advances, the first person she would naturally wanna talk to is her Mom BUT if it comes to sharing it with a Man... it has to be either, her Dad, brother OR Husband but out of these relations the first one that would come to her mind would be the one she feels absolutely save and comfortable with AND I guess we all know who the Man is by now... Right after her Mom, she almost instantly thought of Raman...her Husband. There's NOTHING more to say... CASE CLOSED! Ishu has ACCEPTED Raman in her heart as her Husband and not just as Ruhi's Papa...BUT it's just that she's still in this whole denial mode, that she isn't well aware of the TRUE relation Raman holds in her heart, Ishu needs to move into the acceptance mode and SOON she will.

Fifthly, I absolutely LOVED...LOVED the Convo between Raman & Ashok... "Yes, it was a deal but now it's turned into a Relationship" My heart was jumping with joy... Raman did NOT say that to annoy Ashok, he clearly MEANT everything he said.❤️

Sixthly, I SERIOUSLY wanna hit Simmi&ToshiJi so hard that my fist will phase through their face and come out the other side.😡 😡They're such a DISGRACE to womanhood, I just want them to die BUT definitely not an easy death... They need to suffer and so does this bas***d Pervmeet... They NEED to go to hell BUT than I doubt even hell would wanna take them in...

Seventhly, Raman&Ishita are NO more in this Relationship just for the sake of Ruhi. Though the both of them are unaware of it, they have already started their journey of being Mr&Mrs Raman Kumar Bhalla and it's not just for Ruhi BUT now it's for them... the 2 of them...for ONE ANOTHER... It's NO longer about Ruhi'sPapa or IshiMa, it's about Mr.Raman Kumar Bhalla & Mrs Ishita Raman Kumar Bhalla... They might not have consummated their Marriage Physically BUT they have already consummated their Marriage Mentally & In their HEARTS... AND this marks the start of a BEAUTIFUL Relationship that is yet to come in the following the episodes after the whole Pervmeet's Incident... It's going to be all about ISHRA...❤️

Lastly, I'm really very SORRY Nikki Darling.❤️🤗 I know you should be happy to see the word LASTLY appearing in my post...Hahahaha... I seriously think, I have writing issues... I need to learn to put the damn FULLSTOP. Sorry for the SUPER long post, I kept writing & writing and before I knew it...my post converted into Ramayanam.
Edited by ForbbidenLove - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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You are so right... even after we read the spoilers... when we watch the episodes, we see something that wasnt in the spoilers at all...

It's so true that separation & tragedy actually start sowing the seeds of a new future... a new beginning...

The CVs are successfully showing us the natural progression from parents to husband/wife... its usually the other way around... another reason why we all love this show...


and BTW... aapka post dekhke dil garden garden ho gaya 😃
Edited by always_a_TV_fan - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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i knw i'm late in makin this post...bt .jabse Raman said tht "rishta" line i imnediately felt connnection with ishu's reactions in past two epis n i decided rite away i HAD to make this post,hwevr much late it will be..!!

hope u all will like it..!!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Nikki Tera post be sacchi mein dil garden garden banadiya, especially in light of this pervmeet track. People's preconceived notions make them blind to the positive aspects coming yo light in each episode. It boils my blood when people bash Raman instead of understanding this complex character and how this broken man has slowly unknowingly resurrected himself since Ishita has come into his life!
Each and every point you made was BANG ON!
Ruhi's papa is definitely becoming Ishita's husband...in every episode there is the surprise element in IshRa scenes that proves it. Even in the Holi episode despite the dance being for Shagun, once they got off the stage and prior to seeing Adi Raman acknowledged that he has a right to be close to Ishu because he is her husband..maybe it was physical attraction talking but he didn't have to say anything because at that moment he wasn't even aware of anyone's presence...he was also affronted when she praised him for fighting the goons but called him chote height ka...lol y care what ur wife thinks of you so much as to get custom made insoles...lol. Raman has been evolving into Ishita's husband for awhile now but more so in the past few episodes. The phone conversation was 98%genuine ..the two percent is for the comments made to show off to Shagun ... Behenji comment and Ranveer comment! I totally loved the way he casually asked her what she was doing and if the family was ok..if there was anything new that happened...a totally hubby-wifey talk! Yes he glanced at Shagun every now and then but despite this I sensed genuiness in that talk with Ishu..and him just sensing that something is troubling her can only stem from having an emotional connect with that person..especially since the person was not eve in front of you...He has built that emotional connect although he will never admit it YET
Ishita, despite, telling her family prior to her marriage, that she is marrying only for Ruhi and that there will be no love in this marriage has FULLY accepted Raman as her husband and Bhallas as her family. The first time this was evidenced is when she outright told Bala that this marriage which started out for sirf Ruhi ke liye is not enough for her she wants more...she had already begun ton understand Raman as evidenced when she says that Raman ki jaan uske Bacchae mein bast hi hai aur Adi door hai is isiliye woh Raman ki kamzori hai! She has accepted him and started caring for him for awhile too..saving him from the deal cause her gut told her the deal would be wrong for him, telling him not to drink etc small things yet significant enough to show wifely caring.
Her needing him and wanting to talk to him about the pervmeet crap proved that she has given him top priority after her parents..he is the one she wants to turn to, to confide in..he is the one she feels safe with..the fact that her relief was visible during the phone conversation was enough for me to be convinced that she has become fully in the emotional sense Raman's wife!
This phase should be a beautiful journey of falling in love and acknowledging that love and I hope the CVs continue to picturize it as beautifully as they have the past 110+ episodes!
The pervmeet track is not tolerable but these glimpses in their emotional connect being the result is beautiful for I know Raman will be her savior and stand by her in the end. It's just he is stuck between a rock and a hard place because how do u choose between your sister whom u know ur whole life and a woman who u married as a deal but are just beginning to fall in love with! I can totally empathize with his inner turmoil and the reason for him being silent!

Lovely post again Nikki and thanks for reading my rantings!
Nina !
Edited by luvsagar - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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my reply in red..

Originally posted by: always_a_TV_fan

You are so right... even after we read the spoilers... when we watch the episodes, we see something that wasnt in the spoilers at all...
i knw dear...hwevr much v hv read spoilers in advance,when v see the epi-v get fully involved in it n yes lik u said when some non spoiler moments,involvement is evn more..!!

It's so true that separation & tragedy actually start sowing the seeds of a new future... a new beginning...
u knw i love sep ONLY BEFORE leads hvnt confessed their love...Sep pos their confession i hate it to death..!!

The CVs are successfully showing us the natural progression from parents to husband/wife... its usually the other way around... another reason why we all love this show...
@bold..
aww thts SUPER TRUE abt YHM..n i soo soo love this FACT abt IshRa..!! n thnx to DivAn v can LITERALLY FEEL the transition in IshRa..!!

and BTW... aapka post dekhke dil garden garden ho gaya 😃
aww thnx a lot lot for this sweet compliment for my post n for this lovely comment..🤗🤗...

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Well said Nikki.
IshRa's relation is anything but conventional so far. A broken man and a torn woman held together by a child. There was no scope for a love between them no matter how attractive they looked together. Their past is much too hurtful for love to happen in a blink.
But trust is a different issue. Trust does not need love. Sometimes you might just trust your enemy because you know their nature. In IshRa equation trust and respect can always happen now. They have come enough distance for that. I think that's what viewers will get with this track. The development of a level of trust and respect between the two warring individuals.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Lovely post as usual..👏 👏
you have really gone in so much depth in analyzing the very complex characters of Raman and Ishita.
I love that things which are happening in their lives will lead to positive changes in their feelings towards each other...!! These two are a unique couple with a unique love story...and the audience gets to really enjoy their journey..!! 😊 😊
The storm will pass too... with two people whose feelings would have changed for each other for the better...!!😳
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nice post
read in a hurry..will read again 😃
till den res😉

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