Dialogues, scenes and symbols March 13, 2014

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Is Shlok unmasking himself in front of Astha and has she started recognizing the real Shlok who is her husband?
The episode starts today with the continuation of burning of Shlok's past. A great significance of fire in this family which believes in Yagna and fire. The fire has always been the witness to the life of Ashlok.
The first time Shlok met Astha in his home was also after a Yagna (fire ritual) by his dad. Then Shlok got married to Astha in the temple in front of the fire. The actual marriage was completed with fire as the witness as per hindu tradition. Again Shlok accepted his hatred in front of the fire in the temple and gave anjali of his love in the fire by masking it to make Ashlok survive. He did let his hatred burn to ashes too , but masked it from Astha.
Then Shlok burnt his past with Swati in the fire today and Astha made a pledge in front of the same fire , that she will get the old Slok back. Looked like both Astha and Shlok made a pledge for their future life in front of the fire today by burning Shlok's past and hatred. Is this the beginning of real marriage for these two?

It was a big win for Ashlok today as Astha has recognized that All the hatred and anger that Shlok shows is his mask and behind that mask is a very soft individual who really loves and cares for her. So Shlok did unmask himself in front of Astha today and the fire was the witness to it . The temple fire was witness to his mask of hatred and today it was witness to his unmasking and true self. Astha will now recognize her real husband, whom Shlok always wanted her to recognize behind his mask.

Shlok had asked Astha as she was leaving after the temple confession when he spoke about his hatred , that she said she knows her husband very well, but then does she really recognize him ? Today Astha has unmasked the real Shlok and recognized him. I was reminded of the mask Shlok wore for Kavya's birthday and when he unmasked himself , I called it as if it was the vishwaroop darshan of lord Vishnu. That is what Astha saw today in front of the fire when Shlok made her burn the diary. Astha has seen the real Shlok today with his big heart.
Astha will make Shlok reveal the story of Swati by becoming like Swati as she said today.

Shlok was not shouting at Astha although he was irritated by her with her forcing him to eat . A normal behavior of husband and wife.
When Shlok made Astha sit on his lap and they fed the dessert to each other, they looked like " Lakshmi Narasimha " where Lakshmi sits on the lap of Narsimha but basically resides in his heart and lookes very petite in front lord Narsimha who is lord Vishnu.
Especially with Holi being so close I could think of Narsimha and Hiranyakashapu, who is then NA. So Shlok will kill or expose the demon NA at some point. Will he start suspecting NA at Holi?

The putting of dessert into each other's mouth is a custom in mahararastrian marriages when the bride and groom sit for lunch together for the first time after marriage, so that they share everything and their married life is full of sweetness. That ritual was not performed when Ashlok got married and it appeared today that may be indirectly because of Aditi, these two performed that ritual today. Symbolically it is telling us that this will be there future life, full of sweetness, although there may be some more hurdles to be crossed.

Shlok did lick the finger that he had used to put the rosogollas into Astha's mouth as he wants to share and taste the same sweetness with her and his emotions showed he enjoyed it. He actually put three rosogollas indicating that he will give her three times more love. It was EBP of the same scene as after Shlok and Astha 's marriage after was fixed after the event and Avadhoot agreed to it.

Anjali will not cause any more problems for Ashlok as Astha has won her trust that she will take care of Shlok and always be by his side.

Aditi's dialogues were all too twisted today that I felt that she overpowered Shlok in his twisted dialogues and made him realize what he is doing. Looks like she lended Swati's earrings to Astha , but also said indirectly that she is not giving her rights over Shlok ? What are her rights over Shlok? Just as a friend and well wisher or something else?

Shlok was shown playing a videogame which ended in wreckage. Aditi later warned him that for him everything is a game and he does not give importance to any relationship. Was she hinting to him that he played a game with Swati that ended in breaking their relationship.? Was the game actually played by NA and Shlok was made scape goat and so the reason why Swati called him selfish and Aditi reminded him again of his being selfish?

As Astha has started recognizing her real husband , I am hoping that she will trust Shlok and not think about Aditi - Shlok relationship even though Aditi might try to come close to Shlok. Astha is very unselfish but she is very possessive of Shlok, which is natural, so I do not think she will let Aditi get the upper hand. I again felt that Aditi will be the ground which will make these two understand their relationship and meaning of marriage. Will Astha start finding who Aditi is ?

Beautiful acting by all . Great job by the whole team of EBP and thank you for giving us such lovely Ashlok moments.

Thanks for reading . Your views are appreciated.

Updating with what I wrote in reply to Lachii,

Sonia , i actaully missed 4 instances . The one when Shlok burnt Astha's note after she sent back the saree to him which was for the DIl, the one he gave to her in Kolhapur.
The next was jungle and I was going to write it but forgot while writing , since that was the first time after their marriage that Shlok was attracted to Astha and she had noticed it and she had gained her trust in him, since she slept in his arms peacefully.
Then offcourse the fire in the evening when they both separated ,it was like the fire was witness to their sadness as both really did not want the separation to happen, but Abhay caused it .
Then the fire in the office, when Astha wanted to know why Shlok did not want the divorce and why he did he marry ger if he never loved her in the first place. The fire was a witness to make Shlok soften and he was going to admit the reasin when the guys came , however it gave a reasin for Astha to come back to Agni house to figure out the reason why Shlok still wanted her to be his wife if he was full of so much hatred.
Yes so for Shlok the Agni and the Surya devata are his istha devata and are witness to his whole life and his actions.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Love the analysis. Things hv started looking up for these two now. There were a lot of positive in today's epi. Aastha forgave him quickly( others may disagree) but she is moving on. She has put on the warpaint in order to fight the battle as shlok said earlier when he rubbed her black hands on her face. There was a statue of groom carrying his bride on the shelf when aastha was pkg up the spilled food. Shlok's exp when aastha left the room, was AWESOME😃. He totally cares for her. Realising the extent of her pain n hurt he has dished her.
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Hi suchi.Agree with you completely.
But,yesterday shlok makes astha throw swati's dairy and memories into the DUSTBIN and makes her burn them.
This scene reminded me of when shlok himself burns astha's letter in the DUSTBIN, when she gives him back the saree, meant for the goddess and bahu and which he gave her to wear in kolhapur,to save her dignity, by writing to him that the saree was not meant for her and as she got it by default,she's giving it back to him.
She gives back the saree,after he hugs her the first time When he tries to make her confess her feelings for him, and both the families witness it.Astha,tells him that she won't confess anything to him as she knows that she is the only one who's dreaming about the very person who doesn't care for her and who might destroy her dreams and hurt her and her family.
Shlok,is shown thinking over her words,then he makes a decision,and then he throws her letter in the Dustbin and burns it (with a lighter used to light cigarettes)meaning at that time his hate for her was far more than any love or attraction he had for her and so her feelings were not important to him and he would burn her with his hate . In hate he wanted to destroy her but he by that time after kolhapur realised he loved her too so he takes the decision of marrying her without giving her any option(in love he was protecting her and her family's dignity too).
Coming back to burning of swati's dairy,Shlok doesn't burn it himself but makes astha herself burn it,indicating, that swati is rubbish and dust for him and astha is the one who is important to him,but as astha herself not as imitating swati(and also cotradicting his very words that astha is kachra(rubbish).
Here his love for Astha is slowly unmasking and yesterday he understood her insecurity about aditi with him and so he, infront of aditi, made her sit on his lap and showed both astha and aditi that astha was the one he loves and has given all rights and power concerning him,as you rightly pointed out like 'lakshmi narashimha' very apt not only in stature but in nature too.
Now astha needs to trust her feelings for him and not MU him with aditi and swati but I think she needs to be sure so she will find out in her own way. Hope it does not land her in trouble again.
This time both will save thier relationship and even though astha is telling she will go, she might do it so shlok has to confess his love for hher(maybe that is what she meant by imitating swati).
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Awesome analysis with wonderful description⭐️⭐️⭐️
AShlok : Emotions settled in one side [ Astha is determined now; her trust or choice is not wrong], it will give strength to change the "Agni" mansion...As usual Shlok supports her... and I hope, he will completely get out from his guilt feel that which he conceal his past scare[ as per his principles, he hates lies] ; After marriage, he reveal one by one in slowly sometimes due to emotions; sometimes by his intelligence...

CVs portrayed well the character of Aastha, an innocent, sensitive girl how turn into responsible person after marriage... thats why I always used to say this "Princess to Queen" [ Daughter - Princess; DIL - Queen] and also saying this " maturity is not a syrup or food to feed by someone; automatically comes when we face challenges in life..." I agree somewhere at sometimes we need proper guidance...

My view, to bring changes we have to touch ones heart first; Aastha did it and proved it so many times & hopefully she will succeed... Her (our) trust...

Thank you for traditional information Di...⭐️ Got some new things in Hindu traditions..

Not watching the show, just reading your analysis this is my small view; Hope not deviating...
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Originally posted by: abi_niki

Awesome analysis with wonderful description⭐️⭐️⭐️

AShlok : Emotions settled in one side [ Astha is determined now; her trust or choice is not wrong], it will give strength to change the "Agni" mansion...As usual Shlok supports her... and I hope, he will completely get out from his guilt feel that which he conceal his past scare[ as per his principles, he hates lies] ; After marriage, he reveal one by one in slowly sometimes due to emotions; sometimes by his intelligence...

CVs portrayed well the character of Aastha, an innocent, sensitive girl how turn into responsible person after marriage... thats why I always used to say this "Princess to Queen" [ Daughter - Princess; DIL - Queen] and also saying this " maturity is not a syrup or food to feed by someone; automatically comes when we face challenges in life..." I agree somewhere at sometimes we need proper guidance...

My view, to bring changes we have to touch ones heart first; Aastha did it and proved it so many times & hopefully she will succeed... Her (our) trust...

Thank you for traditional information Di...⭐️ Got some new things in Hindu traditions..

Not watching the show, just reading your analysis this is my small view; Hope not deviating...


No Abi, your views are always great.and very apt. Today Shlok unmasked himself and Astha recognized it. So in his twisted way he asked Astha from which dhongi baba she learnt all her drama.? Well the real dhongi baba is Shlok baba and Astha is his drama queen. Who is the guru and who is the Chela is difficult to figure out as both are equal 50 %. The dhongi baba and his drama queen did excellent dhong in front of Aditi of feeding each other . Or was it real and they showed it to be fake? We however got a beautiful scene of the lovebirds.
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lovely analysis suchi.
they are doing an ek baar phir of some main scenes.
yesterday it was saputara scene and today it was laddu scene.
loving it.
wonder if it will be temple marriage/ ILU / kiss ek baar phir on holi😛

wrote on the first day aditi came that she is lady version of shlok. she is as confusing as him. only difference is that i'm not able to appreciate the confusion about her. mainly because she is not the main character and there is already enough secrecy around main characters.
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c/p pg 133

Originally posted by: Sg2013


Prem,
I wrote my post about symbols and dialogues just now. I think Shlok is unmasking himself in front of Astha and she is recognizing the real Shlok behind the mask.
Yes she will go away once she will make Shlok completely unmask himself him in front of her . He will then follow her which is for sure and then reintroduce his Astha openly with his love.

Originally posted by: Sg2013

Is Shlok unmasking himself in front of Astha and has she started recognizing the real Shlok who is her husband?

The episode starts today with the continuation of burning of Shlok's past. A great significance of fire in this family which believes in Yagna and fire. The fire has always been the witness to the life of Ashlok.
Fire pic pg 131 ..
The first time Shlok met Astha in his home was also after a Yagna (fire ritual) by his dad. Then Shlok got married to Astha in the temple in front of the fire. The actual marriage was completed with fire as the witness as per hindu tradition. Again Shlok accepted his hatred in front of the fire in the temple and gave anjali of his love in the fire by masking it to make Ashlok survive. He did let his hatred burn to ashes too , but masked it from Astha.
Then Shlok burnt his past with Swati in the fire today and Astha made a pledge in front of the same fire , that she will get the old Slok back. Looked like both Astha and Shlok made a pledge for their future life in front of the fire today by burning Shlok's past and hatred. Is this the beginning of real marriage for these two?

It was a big win for Ashlok today as Astha has recognized that All the hatred and anger that Shlok shows is his mask and behind that mask is a very soft individual who really loves and cares for her. So Shlok did unmask himself in front of Astha today and the fire was the witness to it . The temple fire was witness to his mask of hatred and today it was witness to his unmasking and true self. Astha will now recognize her real husband, whom Shlok always wanted her to recognize behind his mask.

Shlok had asked Astha as she was leaving after the temple confession when he spoke about his hatred , that she said she knows her husband very well, but then does she really recognize him ? Today Astha has unmasked the real Shlok and recognized him. I was reminded of the mask Shlok wore for Kavya's birthday and when he unmasked himself , I called it as if it was the vishwaroop darshan of lord Vishnu. That is what Astha saw today in front of the fire when Shlok made her burn the diary. Astha has seen the real Shlok today with his big heart.
Astha will make Shlok reveal the story of Swati by becoming like Swati as she said today.
pic on pg 131

Shlok was not shouting at Astha although he was irritated by her with her forcing him to eat . A normal behavior of husband and wife.
When Shlok made Astha sit on his lap and they fed the dessert to each other, they looked like " Lakshmi Narasimha " where Lakshmi sits on the lap of Narsimha but basically resides in his heart and lookes very petite in front lord Narsimha who is lord Vishnu.
Especially with Holi being so close I could think of Narsimha and Hiranyakashapu, who is then NA. So Shlok will kill or expose the demon NA at some point. Will he start suspecting NA at Holi?

The putting of dessert into each other's mouth is a custom in mahararastrian marriages when the bride and groom sit for lunch together for the first time after marriage, so that they share everything and their married life is full of sweetness. That ritual was not performed when Ashlok got married and it appeared today that may be indirectly because of Aditi, these two performed that ritual today. Symbolically it is telling us that this will be there future life, full of sweetness, although there may be some more hurdles to be crossed.
SajnaVe.
avis today epi

Shlok did lick the finger that he had used to put the rosogollas into Astha's mouth as he wants to share and taste the same sweetness with her and his emotions showed he enjoyed it. He actually put three rosogollas indicating that he will give her three times more love. It was EBP of the same scene as after Shlok and Astha 's marriage after was fixed after the event and Avadhoot agreed to it.

Anjali will not cause any more problems for Ashlok as Astha has won her trust that she will take care of Shlok and always be by his side.

Aditi's dialogues were all too twisted today that I felt that she overpowered Shlok in his twisted dialogues and made him realize what he is doing. Looks like she lended Swati's earrings to Astha , but also said indirectly that she is not giving her rights over Shlok ? What are her rights over Shlok? Just as a friend and well wisher or something else?
suchi, you read my comments on the EARRINGS SAGA pg 131 part 1 pov.

Shlok was shown playing a videogame which ended in wreckage. Aditi later warned him that for him everything is a game and he does not give importance to any relationship. Was she hinting to him that he played a game with Swati that ended in breaking their relationship.? Was the game actually played by NA and Shlok was made scape goat and so the reason why Swati called him selfish and Aditi reminded him again of his being selfish?

As Astha has started recognizing her real husband , I am hoping that she will trust Shlok and not think about Aditi - Shlok relationship even though Aditi might try to come close to Shlok. Astha is very unselfish but she is very possessive of Shlok, which is natural, so I do not think she will let Aditi get the upper hand. I again felt that Aditi will be the ground which will make these two understand their relationship and meaning of marriage. Will Astha start finding who Aditi is ?

Beautiful acting by all . Great job by the whole team of EBP and thank you for giving us such lovely Ashlok moments.

Thanks for reading . Your views are appreciated.

@green we know the significance of fire boh for practical purpose, the ritual, weddings, burning depending on the context. So to me too it signified ashes to ashes dust to dust as in death of the past leading to new beginnings. And the beginning of real relationship btw ashlok. CVs have been burning midnite oil with such deep symbolic serial. Hats off!
@bold done by you, indeed. Fire was the witness as in agni saakshi and blessings.
@violet Amen to that, but it wont happen anytime soon, i dont think.
@blue i noticed that right off the bat about anjali. Even her tone eyes faint smile towards astha were indicative of the fact that astha means business when she has made up her mind to take care of 6-month hubby.
@red astha may have temporary reactive jealous moments but they will pass as soon as they become haavi on her and yes possessive of shlok. After all, he IS her pati parmeshwar with equal rights as she does. Aditi cant have upper hand esp after today and the way she symbolically wrecked his program.
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Beautiful analysis of the episode suchi. Loved your interpretation of shlok feeding her 3 rasgullas. Wonderful .
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Originally posted by: Sg2013

Is Shlok unmasking himself in front of Astha and has she started recognizing the real Shlok who is her husband?

The episode starts today with the continuation of burning of Shlok's past. A great significance of fire in this family which believes in Yagna and fire. The fire has always been the witness to the life of Ashlok.
The first time Shlok met Astha in his home was also after a Yagna (fire ritual) by his dad. Then Shlok got married to Astha in the temple in front of the fire. The actual marriage was completed with fire as the witness as per hindu tradition. Again Shlok accepted his hatred in front of the fire in the temple and gave anjali of his love in the fire by masking it to make Ashlok survive. He did let his hatred burn to ashes too , but masked it from Astha.
Then Shlok burnt his past with Swati in the fire today and Astha made a pledge in front of the same fire , that she will get the old Slok back. Looked like both Astha and Shlok made a pledge for their future life in front of the fire today by burning Shlok's past and hatred. Is this the beginning of real marriage for these two?

It was a big win for Ashlok today as Astha has recognized that All the hatred and anger that Shlok shows is his mask and behind that mask is a very soft individual who really loves and cares for her. So Shlok did unmask himself in front of Astha today and the fire was the witness to it . The temple fire was witness to his mask of hatred and today it was witness to his unmasking and true self. Astha will now recognize her real husband, whom Shlok always wanted her to recognize behind his mask.

Shlok had asked Astha as she was leaving after the temple confession when he spoke about his hatred , that she said she knows her husband very well, but then does she really recognize him ? Today Astha has unmasked the real Shlok and recognized him. I was reminded of the mask Shlok wore for Kavya's birthday and when he unmasked himself , I called it as if it was the vishwaroop darshan of lord Vishnu. That is what Astha saw today in front of the fire when Shlok made her burn the diary. Astha has seen the real Shlok today with his big heart.
Astha will make Shlok reveal the story of Swati by becoming like Swati as she said today.

Shlok was not shouting at Astha although he was irritated by her with her forcing him to eat . A normal behavior of husband and wife.
When Shlok made Astha sit on his lap and they fed the dessert to each other, they looked like " Lakshmi Narasimha " where Lakshmi sits on the lap of Narsimha but basically resides in his heart and lookes very petite in front lord Narsimha who is lord Vishnu.
Especially with Holi being so close I could think of Narsimha and Hiranyakashapu, who is then NA. So Shlok will kill or expose the demon NA at some point. Will he start suspecting NA at Holi?

The putting of dessert into each other's mouth is a custom in mahararastrian marriages when the bride and groom sit for lunch together for the first time after marriage, so that they share everything and their married life is full of sweetness. That ritual was not performed when Ashlok got married and it appeared today that may be indirectly because of Aditi, these two performed that ritual today. Symbolically it is telling us that this will be there future life, full of sweetness, although there may be some more hurdles to be crossed.

Shlok did lick the finger that he had used to put the rosogollas into Astha's mouth as he wants to share and taste the same sweetness with her and his emotions showed he enjoyed it. He actually put three rosogollas indicating that he will give her three times more love. It was EBP of the same scene as after Shlok and Astha 's marriage after was fixed after the event and Avadhoot agreed to it.

Anjali will not cause any more problems for Ashlok as Astha has won her trust that she will take care of Shlok and always be by his side.

Aditi's dialogues were all too twisted today that I felt that she overpowered Shlok in his twisted dialogues and made him realize what he is doing. Looks like she lended Swati's earrings to Astha , but also said indirectly that she is not giving her rights over Shlok ? What are her rights over Shlok? Just as a friend and well wisher or something else?

Shlok was shown playing a videogame which ended in wreckage. Aditi later warned him that for him everything is a game and he does not give importance to any relationship. Was she hinting to him that he played a game with Swati that ended in breaking their relationship.? Was the game actually played by NA and Shlok was made scape goat and so the reason why Swati called him selfish and Aditi reminded him again of his being selfish?

As Astha has started recognizing her real husband , I am hoping that she will trust Shlok and not think about Aditi - Shlok relationship even though Aditi might try to come close to Shlok. Astha is very unselfish but she is very possessive of Shlok, which is natural, so I do not think she will let Aditi get the upper hand. I again felt that Aditi will be the ground which will make these two understand their relationship and meaning of marriage. Will Astha start finding who Aditi is ?

Beautiful acting by all . Great job by the whole team of EBP and thank you for giving us such lovely Ashlok moments.

Thanks for reading . Your views are appreciated.

very nice post Suchi
liked all your symbiolisms about fire.. right from the start that bin has been used to burn things associated with shlok and his past/thoughts etc... and ofcourse fire has also been mentioned in the scenes you mentioned.. also in the jungle scene where both light the fire together .. with aastha's idea about using two stones... so EBP keeps using symbolisms so effectively and aptly that we
cant help but appaud at the effort put in in a daily show...
aditi will make aastha more possessive of shlok and shlok more aware of aastha...thats the way
the track may go i guess...!
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