SanDhir Weekend Post: The Battle Of Sexes Just Got Sexier

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SanDhir: Battle of sexes just got sexier

Ok guys here is the much controversially discussed topic of the forum. Why do we feel Randhir is better than Sanyukta? I really don't know how to put my points properly and diplomatically. But still here it is. Keep the rotten tomatoes and broken slippers ready.

1) Sanyukta proves all the accusations of Randhir.

Accusation 1: "ladkiyon ke paas dimag nahi hota"

Proof: When the exam paper leak happened and her ahll ticket was found she thought it was Randhir and went hurling at him and made a tamasha in public. Arrey yaar, even Kaustuki told her 'what proof do u have it's Randhir?' - 'koi proof nahi hai' - 'toh tumhe aisa kyun lagta hai, this is wrong' Jo commonsense kaustuki ne dikhayi that she neither has a reason nor proof to put the blame on Randhir, woh commonsense Sanyukta ke paas nahi hai? Vardhaan ne use sahi kaha 'when u forgo ur one year, one precious year, then only ur brain will be on track'

"A wise person will learn from his mistake" - But No. Sanyukta has repeated the same mistake. In the village when her project got spoiled. She IMMATURELY and INTENTIONALLY went and sabotaged his project.

Defence by forumwaasis: If Randhir was in Sanyukta's place he'd have done the same.

My Explanation: Seriously?? Randhir was in Sanyukta's place. During the task when Vidushi hide his part. Yes he thought it was Sanyukta. But then did he go to her like a prowling tiger and asked 'sanyukta sanyukta where is my part? U have hidden it so i'll throw ur part too' Did he? NO. Instead he first chose to search for his part. Then after submitting it he reprimanded her. That is the reason Randhir is better than Sanyukta.

Accusation 2: "ladkiyon ko rone ke aur complain karne ke alawa aur kuch nahi aata"

Proof: True. Madam has proven that she knows how to cry. Even when her brother Ankit didn't call her for the interview she cried. Doesnt she know it is useless. I'm not against tears. But i hate the tears when they flow like tap water left open. I hate when they flow meaninglessly. Tears should NOT be flown by problems. They should flow only during pain. The scenes during holidays when she was crying at her home were useless too, especially when we are made to be believed by CVs that she is a strong girl. And the complaints part.. uff.. she is such an insult to girls when she turns complaint mistress. Girls are NOT LIKE THAT.

Accusation 3: "ladkiyon ki toh aadat hoti hai, khairaat mein mili cheez ko bhi apna samajh leti ho"

Proof: This is Epic. Seriously. Firstly, the YSA. This YSA was conducted FOR Randhir. Sanyukta only won because Randhir refused to accept it and Jiggy and Vidushi did extremely bad. If only Randhir was normal, or that it wasn't conducted by Renuka Sanyal, then only he'd have won. Ok leave this, when Randhir always came first in the rounds of YSA and Sanyukta always took the last place, did Randhir boost his place? NO right. Then why should sanyukta boost her YSA winning and a stupid scarf to Randhir and make that 'loser' stunt? Ok leave this too. What about Renuka offering jobs to FITE thing? Really Sanyukta, did u really think she did it for you..? And you need a GUY to make you understand that you are over-estimating urself? She got something (in khairaat ofcouse, because it wasn't for her, but for Randhir) and she thought it is for her. Now this is the perfect example of demonstrating and proving Randhir's accusation.

I really don't like this because as a girl she has to prove Randhir wrong but she has only proven his thinking right, not once, but innumerable times. And I, as a GIRL, felt DEMEANED and OFFENDED.

2) Sanyukta gives herself too much of importance.

Defence by forumwaasis: She is NOT PERFECT.

My Explanation: Being not pefect and being dumb are different. Kuch achcha hua toh uski wajah se, kuch bura hua toh Randhir ki wajah se? What kind of SHALLOWNESS is this? Not perfect toh kya usko sar par bithayein? Everybody draws a certain invisible line around them. It is to tell others that it is strictly their PRIVATE territory and no one is allowed inside. NO TRESSPASSERS. Randhir drew such line around himself which is very much bigger than normal people. And this girl keeps on crossing it. And guys just because it is SanDhir, this is NOT ACCEPTABLE. Even though they are a prospective couple in the show and we love their hot chemistry, this is really not acceptable when looking at Randhir's point of view. And one should "shut up" when asked to and "mind their own business" in some matters. Sanyukta's business was to bring Randhir back when he left the college, not to poke him that he left the college because of her (i seriously bang my head on this, no head no tail what kind of accusation is this)

3) Sanyukta's actions are too impulsive and selfish.

Defence by forumwaasis: She is GREY.

My explanation: WHAT DOES BEING GREY MEAN EXACTLY? Let us count from the start. She tricked Randhir into making machine. Did we say anything. NO. Because this is GREY. Then she made a 'loser' stunt in boys' hostel, she manipulated Ankit, she gave tit for tat to Randhir, she took advantage of Randhir's MCP attitude in viva. This all is GREY. No one blames her for this. But then there are certain things like insulting Vardhaan in class 'aapko kya farak padta hai?' Really Sanyukta, is he your i-hate-u-like-i-love-u type of hero of B-grade TV show that you utter such a cheesy dialogue to a HURT person. Be irritating, it's ok. DOnt be impulsive. Be selfish, don't be shallow. And not to forget how she gets on Randhir's veins. Darling, there is a code of conduct even for enemity. There is a difference in being GREY and being CHEAP. Dont tell if Sanyukta is selfish then why did she allow everyone on the abode searched by her in village and why did she keep food for Randhir. I'd like to say that these are simple things, even if kaustuki have found one she would have allowed everyone but what really judges the person is not simple and normal tasks but tough hurdles and problems. In which she epic-ly failed. As Randhir said "RESPECT IS COMMANDED NOT DEMANDED".

4) Randhir creates problems for Sanyukta, where as Sanyukta inflicts pain in Randhir

Proof: There is a difference in puttling hurdles for a person and hurting a person.

Where Randhir always does the first one and can never do the second one, Sanyukta always does the second. It is said that when we go to God, we should always pray for hurdles and strength to make us a better person. And we should infact be thankful to the ones who create problems for us. I'm not saying Sanyukta should thank Randhir but then it is good this way, especially she has the habit of boosting her khairaat mein mili hui cheezein and har choti si jeet and crying over har choti si haar, Randhir is a blessing in disguise. But what Sanyukta does to Randhir is scratching his wounds, hurting his ego and bleeding him to ache. Again this is NOT GREY. This is either kuttipanti or kameenipanti. Sorry to use such words but this is true. Randhir disturbs her professionally only, but she disturbs him emotionally.

5)Randhir always takes responsibility for his actions but Sanyukta always blames others for her mistakes.

Proof: When Randhir challenged Sanyukta at Freshers' party (i wont say he got her drunk, because who the hell in the first place did anyone ask Sanyukta to accept it. Dont tell me she got provoked by him, if Randhir provokes her for drugs or to jump off second floor because he can do it, will she take them to prove a point) Then Randhir actually felt bad and realised that he should not have done it. When he got disqualified from YSA he didn't say anything, he told Jiggy that it was his mistake, unlike Ssanyukta who tried blame-game on Randhir before Vardhaan (why the hell did she get out in first place?)

6) Even when Randhir and Sanyukta are switched, he is better.

My theory: Sanyukta may have got Randhir to accept unwanted marriage like he did, but Randhir would never interfere or poke her in her emotional conflicts if she didn't see her mother for years or hates her etc.

Defence by forumwaasis: It is because of Randhir Sanyukta's marriage is fixed. How can she say no, she cannot do anything.

My explanation: Seriously? Jhoot kisne bola. Sanyu ne. Shaadi keliye haan kehkar gharwalon ko dhoka kisne diya, Sanyu ne. Sameer ko seedha seedha sach kisne nahi bataya Sanyu ne, toh Randhir culprit kaise hua. He only convinced Sameer. What if Sanyukta just once spoke to her father? What if she once made him explain her dreams instead of being CRYBABY infront of her mother. What if she chooses to move out and pursue her dreams and prove it to them that she is worth it? (no, i'm not being extreme. In Suvreen Guggal, the leading lady who is the best ever female lead on Indian television actually moves out when her parents are against her dreams, but when she proves herself they reconcile with her. Here Sanyukta atleast has hostel, Suvreen didn't have that too, her life was a struggle and unless u struggle for ur dreams u wont get what u want. But Sanyukta wants everything in green platter, how long will she save her ass with lies. Someday or the other truth will come out and create more damage) What if she ACTUALLY FIGHTS for her dreams, Or all her feminism, right to education and i'm-not-mediocre bhashans reserved only to Randhir? She has been in an protected environment since childhood, and if she behaves Randhir is all her problems, then what will she do when she passes out of FITE? She'll meet people so disgusting, conniving and rude that even people like Randhir and Vidushi would look like angels.

7) She thinks she is in the exclusive hit-list of the universe.

By proving all the accusations of Randhir, justifying her every stupid act, not feeling remorseful, and acting like a crybaby if the CVs think that we'll empathise and sympathise with Sanyukta then they should think again. Sanyukta told Parth - "Mera toh ek bhi kaam nahi chalta jhoot ke bina" - "kyun mujhe life mein har cheez ke liye struggle karni padti hai?" - "Engineering choice nahi sapna hai mera" - "Ankit, bahut mehnat ki hai maine iss din keliye mat kar aisa" etc etc etc.. where as stated in my earlier points she gives herself too much of importance, cries and thinks she is in the exclusive hit-list of the universe, i'd like to tell her that SELF SYMPATHY IS UNCOOL. It is totally uncool. And NO SUCH LIST EXISTS. Do u think it is a trophy when u say u cant imagine ur life without lies. Or is it somekind of greateness? The girl has audacity not only to accept this but also GLORIFY it. "Truth is the best and easiest way out" and i personally believe people who don't lie unless for a greater good of mankind are the strongest people. (again this reminds me of suvreen guggal who never lied without a reason and not only her many GREY LEAD characters of Indian television or what we call as ANTI-HEROES are anything but not liars coz lying is definitely gross) And the definitely not self-sympathizers how much ever grave past or present they have.

8) Randhir is MCP but Sanyukta is not FCP seeing her father and brother (some newbie of forum coined this term whose name i don't remember, whoever u r credit urself)

Reason: Sanyukta is not female-chauvinist pig inspite of her brother and father being MCP because she is among the minorities, whose is born up in patriarch cal family where daughters are not allowed to studied. There are lakhs of girls studying in our country and she has seen them. So it is obvious that their fathers are not MCPs and so not all the families are like hers. BUT.. BUT.. BUT.. how many working mothers could Randhir have seen who give their most of the time to their children.. Accept it, female employees take maternity leave and they are on leave even after the baby is born. Many actually leave their jobs for their children and others who wanted to continue HIRE NANNIES for their children. (there is a huge demand for nannies and pre-schools hence) Ok. These r just two options for women. Now Randhir seeing the both the categories might have thought, a child gets entire care and support only through a housewife. The THIRD category woman, which is perhaps Parth's mother, who both works and take care of child also, form a MICROSCOPIC percentage in this survey. Hence seeing such a woman in his life is RARE. So Randhir being MCP is justified unless he meets a woman of the third category.

About the title: It is because for whatever reason CVs are butchering Sanyukta's character, trust me it is only to make us regret and feel guilty about it later. In the first year of FITE it is the battle between equals, second year we can see Sanyukta rising and Randhir falling in terms of their egos Moreover the feud which he intends on seeing her everytime as a ritual is no longer there. Hence i said, SanDhir story is getting sexier and is moving towards their destiny crossing another milestone.

P.S: These are entirely my views. You all are free to criticize. I used the forumwaasi i.e my fellow forum member because i really don't like to take names. I treat all as my friends here.

Edited by TheDreamCatcher - 12 years ago

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Posted: 12 years ago
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*Double like* ...Very well written! ... 👏👏 ... I totally agree with everything u wrote!...
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Ok, I didn't read the whole thing and will give my all my points and arguments if any later as I'm supposed to be "studying" right now...
But I would like to add a point in your favour..
Sanyukta is not all that brilliant-she always needs help...be it the dream team machine thing or that task given by Vardhan to her which she tricked Randhir to do for her...She is street smart but not that book smart as she makes herself to be...she always needs help, always

One more thing-she thinks she is only 1 with problems dreams and ambition and she is the only one that matters...she doesn't even fathom or accepts the the fact that people have problems too...

p.s. im gonna keep editing this post as and when I have time, so please bear with me😊

Edited by Dancindoll8 - 12 years ago
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wow! Now this is what u call a wonderful post!👏
Well, u know d point dat i absolutely love here was that randhir creates only professional hurdles for sanyu, where as she provokes him emotionally- Y does she always have to go to his mom,dad n upbringing?
I hated the episode where she threw dat bday party for randhir, n look at her guts-she invited his parents too!
Yes, most people defend sanyu saying she is imperfect, she is not the typical heroine,etc, but dis is not what all of this is about!
I know she is not a typical heroine, which means she should be even more stronger than randhir- but time n again she has proved the opposite. She gets whatever she wants after pleading n d worse part being she is always so proud about it and worst part being dat she takes credit for it later-like during YSA n now.

All m saying is, she cannot get her "haq" by pleading! N so CVs plz work on sanyu's character, make her strong n give us a female character looking at whom v girls feel proud!

Please take the above mentioned points in the right spirit- m looking forward to a healthy discussion, not a junglee fight...(this was obviously for sanyu's defenders..😊)
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Originally posted by: Dancindoll8

Ok, I didn't read the whole thing and will give my all my points and arguments if any later as I'm supposed to be "studying" right now...

But I would like to add a point in your favour..
Sanyukta is not all that brilliant-she always needs help...be it the dream team machine thing or that task given by Vardhan to her which she tricked Randhir to do for her...She is street smart but not that book start as she makes herself to be...she is always needs help


darling, it is ok if she tricked randhir or if she is streetsmart. Because that is exactly what grey is and we dont have a problem with that. But we have problem with her insensitivity and selfishness.
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Originally posted by: Dancindoll8

Ok, I didn't read the whole thing and will give my all my points and arguments if any later as I'm supposed to be "studying" right now...

But I would like to add a point in your favour..
Sanyukta is not all that brilliant-she always needs help...be it the dream team machine thing or that task given by Vardhan to her which she tricked Randhir to do for her...She is street smart but not that book start as she makes herself to be...she is always needs help


Yes..absolutely correct..sanyu is nt that brilliant too..but here she gets the credit coz she is hardworking..😆
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I DONT AGREE WITH YOU IN SOME POINT ACTUALLY IN MANY POINT SRRY
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Originally posted by: Helooohybye

I DONT AGREE WITH YOU IN SOME POINT ACTUALLY IN MANY POINT SRRY


you can state ur reasons for discussion..
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Originally posted by: winchesters

wow! Now this is what u call a wonderful post!👏

Well, u know d point dat i absolutely love here was that randhir creates only professional hurdles for sanyu, where as she provokes him emotionally- Y does she always have to go to his mom,dad n upbringing?
I hated the episode where she threw dat bday party for randhir, n look at her guts-she invited his parents too!
Yes, most people defend sanyu saying she is imperfect, she is not the typical heroine,etc, but dis is not what all of this is about!
I know she is not a typical heroine, which means she should be even more stronger than randhir- but time n again she has proved the opposite. She gets whatever she wants after pleading n d worse part being she is always so proud about it and worst part being dat she takes credit for it later-like during YSA n now.

All m saying is, she cannot get her "haq" by pleading! N so CVs plz work on sanyu's character, make her strong n give us a female character looking at whom v girls feel proud!

Please take the above mentioned points in the right spirit- m looking forward to a healthy discussion, not a junglee fight...(this was obviously for sanyu's defenders..😊)


Afri.. ya.. how can i forget that birthday thing? Irritating RAndhir is ok.. But then what is the need to involve his parents?
And Sanyu is not a typical heroine is really absurd.. In that case even Vidushi should be the lead isnt it.
We have many such not-so-typical heroines right from star one to channel v. But we have expressed out displeasures there too..
we should be strong enough to critisise out favorites.
But as i said Sanyukta is actually demeaning the woman in me infront of an MCP like Randhir.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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i like ur points.. but at the same time we have to admit certain facts.. Randhir was always a free bird, no one to restrict . But Sanyu, her condition is really different ,she is just 300 rank . And you know why...she faced lot of problems due to her family, she prepared for her entrance during night time when her family members were sleeping peacefully. Because her father and brother cant entertain that a girl can achieve her goals in day light in front of their so called social values. So her attitude is just understanding...

Lets give her some time... 100% she will change...

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