Cousins marrying cousins? - Page 14

Originally posted by: punjini

From what little I know about Sociology, I remember reading that marriages between primary relations are banned all around the world in practically every community i.e. marriage between mother-son, father-daughter, brother-sister. This is to ensure social order and prevent unhealthy competition between close members of the family.

However marriages between cousins, uncle-niece etc (called consanguinous marriages, I think) are allowed and in varying forms (in some communities only between paternal cousins) in different communities.

The famous sociolgist M.N. Srinivas conducted many studies on South Indian society and it was due to his efforts that the number of consanguinous marriages went down in South India. Today, in South India, the number of consanguinous marriages have gone down drastically. I am not sure about the status in other societies.

Medically, the chances of offspring developing genetic and other disorders are magnified when in-breeding takes place over many generations. Just one consaguinous marriage which is not repeated in future generations probably won't cause major health problems. That's why Satyajit Ray's son is not affected nor are so many others.

Someone mentioned Parsis. Well, I remember reading somewhere that continuous in-breeding over many generations had weakened the genes. There are a large number of mentally retarded members in the community and in-breeding has been blamed for this. I don't know if any such studies have been done for Muslims etc.

thanks punjini for sharing this socialogy information. this indeed is new to me & i am glad to know it now. 😊

I think it is mainly not accepted coz,it also affects the off-spring,genetically in health orders.

Originally posted by: punjini

From what little I know about Sociology, I remember reading that marriages between primary relations are banned all around the world in practically every community i.e. marriage between mother-son, father-daughter, brother-sister. This is to ensure social order and prevent unhealthy competition between close members of the family.

However marriages between cousins, uncle-niece etc (called consanguinous marriages, I think) are allowed and in varying forms (in some communities only between paternal cousins) in different communities.

The famous sociolgist M.N. Srinivas conducted many studies on South Indian society and it was due to his efforts that the number of consanguinous marriages went down in South India. Today, in South India, the number of consanguinous marriages have gone down drastically. I am not sure about the status in other societies.

Medically, the chances of offspring developing genetic and other disorders are magnified when in-breeding takes place over many generations. Just one consaguinous marriage which is not repeated in future generations probably won't cause major health problems. That's why Satyajit Ray's son is not affected nor are so many others.

Someone mentioned Parsis. Well, I remember reading somewhere that continuous in-breeding over many generations had weakened the genes. There are a large number of mentally retarded members in the community and in-breeding has been blamed for this. I don't know if any such studies have been done for Muslims etc.

This sounds kinda convincing...😊.. All parsis have G6PD deficinciency genetically transferred from a female..who are mostly carriers...

Originally posted by: punjini

From what little I know about Sociology, I remember reading that marriages between primary relations are banned all around the world in practically every community i.e. marriage between mother-son, father-daughter, brother-sister. This is to ensure social order and prevent unhealthy competition between close members of the family.

However marriages between cousins, uncle-niece etc (called consanguinous marriages, I think) are allowed and in varying forms (in some communities only between paternal cousins) in different communities.

The famous sociolgist M.N. Srinivas conducted many studies on South Indian society and it was due to his efforts that the number of consanguinous marriages went down in South India. Today, in South India, the number of consanguinous marriages have gone down drastically. I am not sure about the status in other societies.

Medically, the chances of offspring developing genetic and other disorders are magnified when in-breeding takes place over many generations. Just one consaguinous marriage which is not repeated in future generations probably won't cause major health problems. That's why Satyajit Ray's son is not affected nor are so many others.

Someone mentioned Parsis. Well, I remember reading somewhere that continuous in-breeding over many generations had weakened the genes. There are a large number of mentally retarded members in the community and in-breeding has been blamed for this. I don't know if any such studies have been done for Muslims etc.

I can't say for India, but here in the UAE there has been research on this subject, and the findings haven't been very encouraging. One of the most rampant genetic disorders affecting the UAE is thalassemia - the result of generations of marrying within the family. The younger generation is more aware, and is trying to buck the trend (easier said than done, though bearing in mind the presence of a very strong tribal culture). The government has launched awareness programmes and has made it mandatory for anyone getting married in the UAE (citizen, or not) to have a complete medical check-up. The medical report is submitted to the court along with the application to get married. If there are potential complications, couples are made aware of them and even dissuaded from going ahead with the marriage. However, it's simply as advice, not as an order or law.

Originally posted by: punjini

From what little I know about Sociology, I remember reading that marriages between primary relations are banned all around the world in practically every community i.e. marriage between mother-son, father-daughter, brother-sister. This is to ensure social order and prevent unhealthy competition between close members of the family.

However marriages between cousins, uncle-niece etc (called consanguinous marriages, I think) are allowed and in varying forms (in some communities only between paternal cousins) in different communities.

The famous sociolgist M.N. Srinivas conducted many studies on South Indian society and it was due to his efforts that the number of consanguinous marriages went down in South India. Today, in South India, the number of consanguinous marriages have gone down drastically. I am not sure about the status in other societies.

Medically, the chances of offspring developing genetic and other disorders are magnified when in-breeding takes place over many generations. Just one consaguinous marriage which is not repeated in future generations probably won't cause major health problems. That's why Satyajit Ray's son is not affected nor are so many others.

Someone mentioned Parsis. Well, I remember reading somewhere that continuous in-breeding over many generations had weakened the genes. There are a large number of mentally retarded members in the community and in-breeding has been blamed for this. I don't know if any such studies have been done for Muslims etc.

That was extremely enlightening Punjini !!!

In fact, right now we are talking about inbreeding in humans, but even in animals, studies have shown that they can be susceptible to a weaker genetic pool for the lack of genetic diversification.

https://links.jstor.org/sici?sici=0014-3820(199404)48%3A2%3C3 17%3AGSBPPH%3E2.0.CO%3B2-5

Another article that I found very interesting:

https://www.messybeast.com/inbreed.htm

I am not sure either, but I found this and sounds like at least some of them might have an inkling..........

Saudi Arabia Awakes to the Perils of Inbreeding From The Middle East Information Center, extracted from an article in The New York Times When she was 17, marrying age for a Saudi girl, Salha al-Hefthi was presented with a husband. ... He was the son of her father's brother — her first cousin — and everyone, including the bride, agreed that "a first cousin was a first choice," she said. The couple had two healthy boys, now 22 and 20, but their third child, a girl, was born with spinal muscular atrophy, a crippling and usually fatal disease that was carried in the genes of both parents. Their fourth, sixth and seventh children were also born with the disorder. Spinal muscular atrophy and the gene that causes it, along with several other serious genetic disorders, are common in Saudi Arabia, where women have an average of six children and where in some regions more than half of the marriages are between close relatives. Across the Arab world today an average of 45 percent of married couples are related, according to Dr. Nadia Sakati, a pediatrician and senior consultant for the genetics research center at King Faisal Specialist Hospital in Riyadh. In some parts of Saudi Arabia, particularly in the south, where Mrs. Hefthi was raised, the rate of marriage among blood relatives ranges from 55 to 70 percent, among the highest rates in the world, according to the Saudi government. Widespread inbreeding in Saudi Arabia has produced several genetic disorders, Saudi public health officials said, including the blood diseases of thalassemia, a potentially fatal hemoglobin deficiency, and sickle cell anemia. Spinal muscular atrophy and diabetes are also common, especially in the regions with the longest traditions of marriage between relatives. Dr. Sakati said she had also found links between inbreeding and deafness and muteness. -------------------------- For the complete article please refer: https://middleeastinfo.org/article2580.html

Thanks to Punjini, SB and Minnie for bringing great information. Very informative I must say. I am learning more and more about this topic. Rest has already done wonderful jobs in providing information already.

Parsis have their own issues of "non-conversion" into Zoroastrianism, which makes marriage choices slim in a small community. That is a different topic altogether, but this is one reason why inbreeding is common.

Originally posted by: qwertyesque

This sounds kinda convincing...😊.. All parsis have G6PD deficinciency genetically transferred from a female..who are mostly carriers...

When did this happen? 😕 Or do you mean "many"?

Originally posted by: T.

Parsis have their own issues of "non-conversion" into Zoroastrianism, which makes marriage choices slim in a small community. That is a different topic altogether, but this is one reason why inbreeding is common.

When did this happen? 😕 Or do you mean "many"?

What I heard is all.. males... but if you have exceptions...may be there are....

Originally posted by: egghatcher

strep???

😕😕...wouldn't that be the least of the worries here😛