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Posted: 7 years ago
#21
Thanks a lot for those facts! It gives base to our thoughts. So Bajirao actually fell into bad company. I don't know what good did Mastani do to him :(
Peshwa's family are uneventfully and unnecessarily portrayed as villians to glorify a concubine. I fail to understand this concept of glorification of someone kept for pleasure. Infact, here Kashibai has to be applauded for accepting and bringing up Rao's illegitimate son. Bravo!⭐️

Hence, there's no question of being intolerant, ruthless and disliking Mastani by the Peshwa family. Thankyou for helping us out with these dates and stuff!

Instead of Baji, Kashi should be the one to sulk and think that where she's stuck and how!?

Cheers.
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Posted: 7 years ago
#22
Sorry if I'm saying this but Bajirao isn't a character worth being portrayed on TV at a personal level. We can draw no possible inspiration from his home life. He was like any other politically influenced person : lavishing, spoilt and with no regard for anyone (after Mastani stepped in) 🤢
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Posted: 7 years ago
#23

Originally posted by: .-Amethyst-.


I don't know if it's only me but I've a special thing for all first wives : Helena, Ruqaiyya, Ajabde, Draupadi, Kashi...
I cannot bring myself to think what void could have Mastani filled in his heart?! Even Gotya said yesterday : tere andar Ka khaalipann. What? If he's not a loving person he'll not have feelings for anyone, isn't it? Why Mastani then and not Kashi? Did he just need someone from an army background to have love with?

If Kashibai would've done that, historians might've already labelled her a characterless woman and written pages of taunts and stuff for her. But Bajirao, alas! Was a great man 🤢

The reason is simple.Mastani was younger and more beautiful.This is why Bajirao chose to ignore his faithful and dedicated wife.
There was no love between them initially.It was plain attraction.
Then they grew closer while she accompanied him on battles.

I don't understand why Bajirao and Mastani are portrayed as eternal lovers when their love was shallower than a puddle.It was superficial.

BTW you have mentioned all of my favourite women above.Especially Helena and Ruqaiyya.These two characters are the most misunderstood souls.A simple correction though.Helena/Cornelia was CGM's second wife.First one was Durdhara.Helena was the woman CGM loved and cherished and vice versa.She was a sweet and loving woman whom CGM could trust even in the darkest hours.She raised Bindusar as her own child after Durdhara's death.

Ruqaiyya was Akbar's childhood friend and closest confidant.She was Akbar's pillar of support and the Padshah Begum.

But unfortunately television chose to portray them as vamps for the sake of drama and TRPs.

Atleast Draupadi,Ajabde and Kashi got their due on TV and the big screen.
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Posted: 7 years ago
#24
^Oh! I didn't know it!
Ekkki maiyya showed Helena as CGM's first wife :/
You're absolutely right. Bajirao Mastani were just regular mortal beings engaged in external affairs. Why even show them on TV?😆

Wait till you see Kashi turning vampish to justify Mastani's struggle to be accepted (where is the need to get accepted in you're the other woman?)😕

Ikr? Ruqaiyya was such a learned lady who helped Akbar manage his people. So was Helena who also fought battles alongside CGM. What a waste of time seeing such lady turn black worms! :/
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Posted: 7 years ago
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The portrayal of all the characters in the serial is skewed. It makes us dislike Bajirao and Mastani because we tend to feel sorry for Kashi. But Bajirao was not unlike other men of his time. Exception was unlike the other men he fell in love with his mistress Mastani and that led him to become reckless and neglect Kashi and her children. That was the root of the family tragedy. Mastani was not the homebreaker, it was Bajirao himself.
Such forbidden love seems selfish but it is not necessarily fake. Mastani could not be blamed if Bajirao loved her more than Kashi, given her status and position she did not have a choice in the matter. Nearly all Peshwa wives had to share their husbands with other women. Neglect and loneliness were a first wife's constant companions.
At least Chimaji remained a loyal husband, never straying once. He did remarry after his first wife died but he never cheated on either wife.
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Posted: 7 years ago
#26
So basically we loved bajirao mastani only because ranveer deepika and priyanka
And the bansali grandur
In real story was different
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: .-Amethyst-.

Sorry if I'm saying this but Bajirao isn't a character worth being portrayed on TV at a personal level. We can draw no possible inspiration from his home life. He was like any other politically influenced person : lavishing, spoilt and with no regard for anyone (after Mastani stepped in)🤢



Yes right.
He had power. Woman are mute spectors.
He loved his mother. After seeing her plight after his father's betrayal he should have loyal to kashi
But he followed his father.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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There is a theory that all powerful men are characterised by higher testosterone levels. Bajirao was a warrior Peshwa. Between 1720-1740 he was the most powerful man in the Maratha Empire, even more influential than the Maratha King Shahu whom he served. High testosterone and increased libido go hand in glove. Politicians, heads of state, sportsmen, leading actors, etc are more likely to stray and media gives their affairs so much attention that their scandals often overshadow their professional achievements.

Bajirao could not resist the younger,and prettier Mastani. In her company he could transcend the mood-killing orthodoxy that affected his relationship with his pious Brahmin wife. Did you know that in the 18th century a Marathi Brahmin wife was often sexually unavailable to her spouse - either because of her menstrual period, pregnancy and childbirth, days of religious obligation and mourning, during the four months of Chaturmas, etc? There were other absurd rules-for example you could enjoy intimacy only at night, never during the day. For a mistress these rules became more relaxed.

Modern men are driven to having extramarital affairs for similar reasons- their wives get so wrapped up in managing their jobs, home and kids that the man feels physically and emotionally neglected. A paramour provides him release from marital monotony.

Kashi endured at least six pregnancies between 1721-35. This must have taken a toll on her physically. Also she developed a form of arthritis which affected her leg. That could have created a perception of her being sexually inadequate while her husband had a rather strong libido. Our modern hearts may bleed at the prospect of polygamous marriages but in those times women were brought up to expect them.
Edited by kahiliginger - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
#29
But for trp they won't show that.
It is going to be a love story.
Only hope is that they don't show kashi full black like ektha first wives
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Posted: 7 years ago
#30
Thanks for all the facts.
Polygamy and concubines may have been customary then. So, how much ever our hearts bleed for Kashi, we have to understand that Bajirao was like most other men of his time.

However, my bone of contention is the glorification of this affair as some kind of Amar Prem Gatha and the consequent defiling of the first wife to prove this affair to be some kind of classical love story. And what is even worse is the glorified portrayal of such kind of relationships of men in national television and Bollywood, which is otherwise not even comfortable to handle topics of sexuality when it comes to women. E.g. Lipstick Under My Burkha. In a way, this is very sexist.
The concept of Kings having concubines is accepted very easily but movies such as Kamasutra, Utsav, etc are seen as "dirty". I understand that centuries ago, women had a lot of restrictions and Indians were mentally confined to patriarchy. But today?

In 21st Century, we have evolved much from that orthodox, patriarchal mindset. Yet, sadly, even today, people( including women) oppose the idea of a woman's sexuality but are absolutely fine with stories like Bajirao-Mastani. That is where the hypocrisy lies, which is so intrinsic.

And one more thing...the idea that modern men have extra marital affairs bcoz their wives are busy with jobs and kids...that is a very unfair reasoning even it's true... 😭 What about these busy wives? Do they not have carnal urges? How do THEY control it?
Edited by amritat - 7 years ago
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